I think hell get support from america. They continue to pound targets. What is the end game. Maybe boots on the ground will not be u. S. Boots on the ground. Many they will be boots from another country. What do you do after. Who fixes syria. Who is in charge of rebuilding it 37. There arent any good choices and this is probably the least bad choice that we have. This president was elected to get the country off of war andss not happening. Good afternoon. Im luke russert. President obama will lay out plans this week for confronting the extremist militants of isis. Weve learned all senators will get a briefing on wednesday, house members on thursday. The president will make his case with congressional leaders tomorrow and in a speech to the American People on wednesday, where he will spell out a campaign that pentagon Officials Say could take years. But in an interview with chuck todd on meet the press, the president said hes confident the United States will get the job done. Over the course of months, we are going to be able to not just blunt the momentum of isil, we will systemically degrade their abilities, we will shrink the territory that they control. And ultimately we will defeat them. Phase one is already you said way as the u. S. Continues air strikes against isis targets in iraq. The latest strikes came today and yesterday aimed at probing the dam northwest of baghdaded as well as the base for u. S. Personnel in erbil. Additional steps are expected to include bolstering Regional Forces like iraqi army and kurdish fighters with training and equipment. But it is the final phase that presents the biggest obstacle where they have their sanctuary in syria. The president said its part of an overall sustainable strategy, but it wopts mean u. S. Troops on the ground. Boots on the ground have to be iraqi. What about syria . And syria. We have a Free Syrian Army and moderate opposition that we have steadily been working with, that we have vetted. The strategy both for iraq and for syria is that we will hunt down isil members and assets wherever they are. Joining me now is nbc chief Foreign Affairs correspondent andrea michl he witchell and al andrea, one of the things chuck todd said how is this going to be rootsed out on the ground. President obama saying isis and syria could pole be taken care of with really the Free Syrian Army or syrian fighters. Be takef with really the Free Syrian Army or syrian fighters. Richard engel said those ranksi. Do they exist . They dont exist. And thats what richard was talking about, thats why frankly i asked the question of richard who knows that area better than any of us. Because the Free Syrian Army has been vetted and revetted. John kerry has met with them over the past two years. Before that, Hillary Clinton was meeting with their proceed jen tors. And they have been completing for help and getting it covertly in the last year. But not the robust military aid that they needed. Into yishsing a gee in order to stop isis from growing and spreading its reach. And right now, they are squeezed so badly, that if we support them to go up against isis, are we giving a pass to assad . Because assad is isis worst nemesis. A aside from the fact it looks like the Free Syrian Army is not ready to contend with isis, that has led some folks to say possibly, okay, could the United States assemble a Broad Based Coalition of arab nationst has led some folks to say possibly, okay, could the United States assemble a Broad Based Coalition of arab nations, countries like turkey. They in fact have boots on the ground. In this day and anyone is thata possibility considering they nre possibility considering they e wary of being seen in partnership with the United States . There are no short term answers. And i think that the president is being wise and in fact very honest with the American People about the challenges that this presents and how long it will take. Nobody wants to go back to war full scale war. But also nobody is talking about going back to full skam war. Were talking about assisting people in the region to take care of this problem which is a very long term problem but in the very short term that we the United States of america and hopefully with some allies with push back the momentum of isis and sort of prevent them from growing bigger and bigger. This idea of containment. Some people that are talking about the possibility of a push for war or at least a push for more force are members of congress. I want to play what senator ted cruz said on the senator floor. It is incumbent on him to come to congress and layout his strategy so that we and the American People are clear on it. The constitution is clear, it is congress and congress only that has the Constitutional Authority to declare war. Now, air strike started. He could get another month in there if he so desired. But it seems with the briefings of congressional leaders, the entire senate, the entire house, hes at least pushing for some semblance of maybe a vote down the line. Does the president theyd on do that in this case and do you think there will be support for ongoing military action against isis . Congress if. I think he does not believe he needs it. He does not need an authorization. He believes under the war powers act. Which all president s have interpreted similarly. Which is that they dont immediate the vote. But its good to have the buyin. So they may need authorization for more money. I dont think he needs a vote so much as an expression from congress. Hes believed all along as he said a year ago that congress should be part of this equation. But its not the a legal determination. And the strategy seems to be tip usually evolving. So as far as president obama saying im going to do this, this, and this, it seems not possible to say that considering the isis threat changes every single day. And as he said to chuck and as he made explicit in other comments about this very thing, to protect the American People, to protect american interests on the ground, to have an emergency humanitarian air lift lets say or air drops and to protect the people who were endangered in erbil, he does not need a vote c congress. So hes notifying congress, but not asking for authorization. Janine, there is a lot of talk of american personnel being engaged in this effort against isis. The Broadband Coalition as we spoke earlier. However one effective tool that isis has which is not an armament is that of social media. Very effective Propaganda Machine that they have been pushing through the arab world, getting western islamists to join the fight in syria, in iraq. What account the United States do and what can these arab countries do to push back on isis and their social media prowess . And what can these arab countries do to push back on isis and their social media prowess . They have an incredible social media machine. Countries have fried tried to s down and that wont happen. I think this is again where you have to have a very long term approach to systemically and generationally countering this narrative. I mean, its really sad, but every time isis does something barbaric and demonstrates that they can do this kind of thing, they actually get more recruits. And so there is something that appeals to these young men and some women that are joining this group. And i think that this is one of the reasons why short term action, short term military action, actually against isis can actually help. Because the message that theyre sending out is that they are taking to syria, theyre taking to the americans. And that they are the strong ones. And that narrative needs to be countered not just with words, but also with action. And it spisnt going to happen the short term, but it can begin and needs to continue over time. And they certainly displayed a level of strength that no one thought possible just a few years ago when all this started. Andrea mitchell, thank you so much. Janine davidson, we appreciate it. Of course you can catch andrea every weekday on Andrea Mitchell reports at noon eastern on msnbc. Coming up, a picture or video is worth 1,000 words. Today more than six months after security cameras caught ray rice punching his fiance, the Baltimore Ravens terminated his contract. The team made that decision only after the graphic video went public today. Ill talk with sean gregory to talk about that next. Dont just dream of being the hero. Make it happen. I cant believe were missing the game for this. Were not ive got xlte. It doubles our 4g lte bandwidth in cities nationwide, so be that guy with verizon xlte. 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The swift action comes after a new video was released by tmz sports. Warning, the video youre about to see is extremely graphic. The footage shows rice punching his how wife inside an elevator at a hotel in atlantic city, new jersey. When palmer tries to fight back, rice hits her again. This time knocking his then fiance to the floor. He then drags her unconscious into the hallway and kicks her again. Today was the first time the video of rice punching palmer was seen publicly. Footage the nfl claims it had not seen until today. Tmz had already released part of the Surveillance Video in february, but it took months for the nfl to respond. This july, League CommissionerRoger Goodell suspended rice without pay for the first two games of the regular season. That action was widely criticized as insufficient. Certainly insufficient that goodell was forced to toughen the policy to six games. In march, rice send an Intervention Program in order to avoid jail time. Joining me how is sean gregory. Obviously what ray rice did was horrendous. Nothing like that should ever be seen publicly and should never be done by anybody towards anybody, much less your fiance. But what is at hand here is this this question about when the nfl specifically saw this video. They claim that today was the first time they saw it when it was released by tmz, but there a lot of powerful reporters that reported months ago the nfl had seen video of what happened inside the elevator. This is the start of a large scale headache for the nfl about what did they know and when did they know it. Exactly. You have a situation whereas you said there were many prominent reporters saying the nfl had seen the elevator tape. You now, if that wasnt the cares, why wasn case, why wasnt the nfl denying these reports . So a big mystery. Somebody is lying and you have this breach of trust with the nfl. This would game suspension obviously backfired, wasnt enough, was foolhardy. So now they suspend him indefinitely. They had to do that. There was no way ray rice could get on a field anytime soon with that image in everybodys head. And a lot of questions about if in fact they had a problem that they had never seen the video, why did they not say to the reporters you have that fact wrong back when they reported it months ago. I want to go to the Baltimore Ravens. As a team, they also have explaining to do. They released a tweet saying that his fiance regretted her role. But the ravens presumably from reporting we understand stood from the time had seen this tape. Just the fact that the ravens were kecontent with the two gam suspension, they in fact cut him today after the video went public and there was enormous pressure, but they have a lot to explain. They look really bad. They did nothing to support themselves. They held this press conference with ray rice and his fiance, which was very bad. Thats when she said what she said. And quote unquote apologizing for her role. John harbaugh said ray rice is a heck of a guy. They had a pr official. Its one thing to support a guy, but even without the video, you know something really bad happened. You have to show some distance and some discipline. When goodell suspended rice for two garnlgs nothing stopping the ravens from coming down with a more justified penalty either. And there is precedence, the late great wife of bob kraft told her husband to cut a play are by the name of Christian Peter because of a Sexual Assault charge he had in nebraska. So there is a press department for these sort of personal conduct policies. And turn to the nfl, though. Dep for these sort of personal conduct policies. And turn to the nfl, though. After what happened with ray rice, widely believed the two game suspension was a complete botch, he moved it to a six game suspension for first time offend derks life time ban for the second. But the target now is out on the nfl. Is there a chance they might have to change this policy to make it even more stringent or is this what they will stick with right now . That six game suspension for first time offenders has this this clause about mitigating factors. And if you would have seen a video like today some other player doing the same thing ray rice did, my gut feeling six games does not seem like it would be enough. I couldnt agree more. Sean gregory, thanks so much for discussing this story. Something that sports fan, nonsports fan alike should Pay Attention to. This a multibilliondollar business that allowed this type of individuvideo to be seen wit doing the right thing. After the break, president obama delays on action on immigration again. Meanwhile immigration lawyers on the border says the government has set up a fast tract. Well get a report from south texas. Kt. Well get a report from south texas. Well get a report from south texas. Background. loud engine sounds what hows it going . 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