throughout objection and we carried them out. >> former director hayden also denied he mislead congress during testimony he gave back in 2007 as the senate intelligence committee report claims. meanwhile president obama reacted to the report in an interview with jose diaz-balart. >> some of the tactics that were written about in the senate intelligence report were brutal, and as i said before, instituted torture, in my mind. that's not who we are. >> let's start with nbc news perry bacon joining us live from washington. when the white house press briefing starts, we will bring it to you live here. perry, let's start here. the reaction at this point in the report appears to be predictly divided along political lines. republicans i did nou s denounc report as a sloppy partisan effort that got the facts wrong. how is it democrats and republicans seem to come to different conclusions. >> one of the key reasons why because there's a core question in the report about whether these tactics worked or not. there was two questions here. one about the morals of the attacks of torture. you've seen john mccain criticized the morals in we should not torture in any circumstances. whether the tactics that worked has become a divisive one. feinstein saying they did not produce new intelligence versus michael hayden the former cia said said they work. it's become a difference. the white house so far is not weighing if on the question. the president they're trying to avoid the questions of do they work. >> you mentioned the white house sending this out in the new york times article saying, quote, obama avoids takes sides on effectiveness of cia techniques. while the president said they institut instituted tortured a etortured. the times quotes the senior administration official as saying we are not going to engage in this debate. why not? why not engage in that part of the debate, at least, perry? >> the in the president's view there's two questions they refuse to answer. one is should the anyone be punished? they talk about doj investigating, we're looking into it, it happened in the past. they don't want to answer that question. and my sense is the question about whether torture works is something the president wants to avoid. his view he expressed over and over on some level it doesn't matter. the same view that john mccain said we should not use torture period whether it works or not. i think because the way michael hayden's al bit how he talked about the tactics works is unavoidable to ask that question. >> perry bacon from the white house. thank you. joined now by jackie spear of california, member of house armed services committee and overtight government reform committees. congresswoman, let me start there with where perry left off. is that a question that we'll ever really get the answer to? did the tactics work? >> i think that senator feinstein made it clear they did not. 6-million pages of documentation her staff reviewed looking very deeply into the kinds of techniques that were used and the information they garnered from those techniques. they were clear they did not receive any information. in fact, most of the information they received was from persons not being subject to the torture. >> what then do you make of the claims from the other side? even former cia directors -- former vice president all the folks that insist some of the tactics, while grotesque, according to you yield results. >> i would say consider the source. they're responsible for the use of the techniques, of course they're going to defend them. let's give credit to senator feinste feinstein, who has gone up against lot of powerful interests in making this a report public. we know what we know today because she stood firm and before she looses her chairmanship of the intelligence committee. ed to get the information out. >> i want to get your take on something et. cetera. the cia, obviously, that the point airing the brunt of all of this. as you know, it wasn't just the cia. dodd was involved. the justice department to an extent signed off on this. is the cia being scape coated here? why haven't the other agencies and individuals as well why have they not also been publicly broad into all of this? >> i think the reason why the focus has been on the cia is because they were asked questions over and over again was torture being used and they denied it. and you have a responsibility as an agent of this country to respond to those who are in power whether it's the president of the united states or the congress of the united states. certainly others are at fault here. alberto gonzalez, at the time was suggesting this was all acceptable conduct and it clearly was not. >> you issued a statement calling the revelations from yesterday's report, quote, grotesque. what part of the summary shocked you most? >> every single page had something in the executive summary that shocked me. whether the rehydration or keeping people sleep deprived for 180 hours. that's not what this country is about. we have to shut it down. >> should the agency issue an apology? >> absolutely. >> what is the likelihood of, at this point, of that happening? >> there's an arrogance that exists within the cia that has to be reigned in, and i would certainly hope they would recognize that with some soul searching they have to come clean on this. how can the cia have eavesdropped on the intelligence committee of the senate and get away with it? they are not above the law. >> congresswoman, thank you. let's bring in the "newsnation" panel today. former cia counter terrorism analyst also coauthor of "find fix finish." i'm joined by roger simon chief political columnist for politico and ayman mohyeldin who is here in the studio. thank you. you served with the cia starting right after 9/11 until 2009. just start with your general assessment of the summary issued yesterday. >> the interesting thing about the summary is almost all the terrible things that has been in the media we knew that and it's been in the press for years. so, for example, there was a 2004 cia ig report declassified in 2009 that talked about water boarding. they talked about the difficult ugly techniques including things that now we consider torture. and so all of the feeling that folks are having how could the cia do this. this has been known for at least five, six, seven years. >> you think it's fained outrage? >> i think that some people protest too much. i wrote a book i started writing in 2010 and 2011 with my coor it. what we basically had to do after we were done with the m u manuscri manuscript, we had to send it for cia to redactions. you'll see in the redactions in the publication itself. cia allowed us publish about water boarding and the brutal techniques used in this way. this is back in 2011 2012. the information has been out there. we've now sort of rehashed everything that has been going out there for the last decade. >> roger, he raises an interesting point aki does. one that has been raised a few amount over the past few hours, the idea if the cia really wanted to keep all of this hidden from public view we would not have a lot of details. they did keep records, granted, and destroyed video tapes but some of the notes were fairly copious. >> they thought they would get away with it. they were operating in an atmosphere, an insular atmosphere that they were doing god's work. they were doing the nation's work. they were not. they were damaging our nation. i think diane feinstein had the best line she said history will judge us by facing an ugly truth and saying never again. >> roger -- i'm going it get you to pause one second. we want to dip into white house briefing now. in is josh ernst talking a little bit more about the report issued yesterday. let's listen. >> of the actions of cia operatives that are mentioned in the report. that there was a career federal prosecutor who was assigned to this case, and this individual conducted an extensive inquiry, and upon looking at the facts and evidence decided not to pursue an indictment. for questions about what that investigation included and how and why that conclusion was reached, i'm referring to the department of justice. again, these are the kinds of decision that should be made without the appearance of political interference, so we've been very clear about the proper role for the justice department in this matter. in addition, i understand there were inspector general investigations, at least one, i think maybe even two that were conducted along these lines. again, the inspector general is somebody who operates independent of the executive branch, and, again, those for the conclusions of those reports, i believe at least some of the conclusions have been made public. i would refer you to those reports. those are reports that were done absent the -- or aside from presidential directive. >> reporter: the techniques did result in actionable intelligence or does he agree with the senate committee's conclusion they did not? >> jim, you are acknowledging there are a couple of sides of a vigorous ongoing debate. this is debate that occurred around the announcement of a successful mission to take osama bin laden off the battle field. there was a robust debate that occurred around the release of the movie "zero dark thirty" that examined issues around the bin laden mission. the conclusion that this president has reached, is that these differences, which are held by well meaning patriotic americans, many of whom have detailed knowledge of these programs and of our national security efforts more broadly. is there is one thing that both sides do agree on and it's something that the president agrees, too. which is that the most powerful one of the most powerful tools in our arsenal to protect an advance our interests around the globe is the moral authority of the united states of america. and the commander in chief concluded that the use of the techniques described in this report significantly undermean the moral authority of the united states of america. that's why the president, on his send full day here at the white house issued an executive order ending those tactics. the other thing that the president did, there's not been a lot of discussion of the lately. i wanted to call it to your attention, the president also threw -- through an executive action asked that the department of justice and 0 a couple other agencies conduct a review of the way that the u.s. government interrogates those individuals who are in u.s. custody. he also urged this task force to conduct a review of the way that individuals who are in u.s. government custody are handled and in some cases transferred to other countries. the outcome of the review that was lead by a career prosecutor identified a couple of things. the first is, he concluded, i think this was in august of 2009. he concluded that the army field manual and army techniques were sufficient guidance for u.s. personnel who are conducting interrogations. that was clear they could use. he also suggested the creation of something we have used to gra great effect. high value detainee interrogation group. it's another terrible government acronym it's called the h.i.g. there should be an interagency group of expert interrogators convened where they can share best practices and they can be deployed on very short notice to essentially anywhere in the world where a high value detainee has been taken into custody. these expert interrogators can use their skills and training to illicit information that is useful for national security, but also in a way that doesn't prohibit our ability to bring these individuals to justice in the u.s. court system. it has been deployed on a number of occasions to the great effect. the other reforms included in this review included specific guidelines that u.s. personnel should use when transferring individuals from the custody of the u.s. government to other countries. and this included getting certain assurances from other countries about how these individuals will be treated when they're detained. it also provides glooirnds for u.s. personnel to conduct oversight and ensure these other countries are living up to the commitments they made in terms of the detention and treatment of these individuals. so this is just one example, and again, this is the result of a task force that the president created on his second day in office to make sure that proper guidance and oversight and reform was implemented as it relates to interrogation and detention of individuals in u.s. custody. this is important because the senate report released yesterday highlights there was not good guidance, not good leadership, and not proper oversight of a lot of programs. and yet, that's what the president instituted on his second day of office. i think it demonstrates the president's commitment to taking seriously the need to show some leadership and to reform shortcomings of these programs. >> on the question of effectiveness, he's going remain agnostic and let the debate play out without him playing a role. >> the conclusion the president reached -- again, it's two principle things here. the conclusion is a principle that people can agree to. the moral authority of the united states of america is one of the most powerful tools in our arsenal to protect and advance rust interests around the world. it's the view of the president the use of the techniques regardless whether or not they illicit national information undermine our ability to use this powerful tool. and that is why the president outlawed the techniques in his first or second day in office. >> reporter: will the president sign it? >> it's lengthy. this is something that -- >> reporter: has he read it? >> he has not. neither has everybody in the administration. it's still something that the administration is reviewing. there are a couple of things i can say about it that we know generally. as a general matter, i can tell you we certainly are pleased that democrats and republicans on the hill do seem to be coming together around a proposal that will avoid a government shut down. we've talked in the past about how a government shut down is bad for the economy. in particular at this point where we are starting to see some head winds from the global economy at the same time that the u.s. economy is demonstrating signs of strength and resilience. the last thing we need are additional head winds imnetting from capitol hill. you'll also recall, jim, over the course of a last couple of months there are specific requests that the administration made for funding key national security priorities. that includes degrading and destroying isil. our understanding based on the top line review done of the agreement there is -- there are substantial resources committed to that effort. we are gratified by that. you'll recall that the administration early last fall made a specific request for resources to deal with the ebola fight that i talked about earlier in terms of making sure we have the resources necessary to stop the outbreak in the tracks in west africa and improve readiness at mm facilities here in the united states. the top line review of the agreement does indicate there are significant resources that are committed to that effort. we're pleased by that. there are also some key funding proposals related to domestic priorities that will benefit the middle class. just to take one pertinent example, there is funding in there that is continued for early childhood education programs. something that the president is going talk about across the street in less than an hour. so we're gratified there continue to be -- there is a commitment of resources for that important priority. on the other side of the ledger, republicans had identified is their priority to try to undermine the president's effort to reform our broken immigration system using executive actions and to cut carbon pollution. based on a cursory review of the agreement, did does not appear that republicans were successful in the effort. and it is something we're gratified by. democrats and republicans have signed on to it and that's why we're going review -- there are going to be some things we're not going to like, and we'll have to sort of consider the whole package before we make a decision about whether or not to sign it. so we'll keep you posted on that. >> the bill contains some -- reforms. i'm wondering what the white house makes of the rollback. and whether the white house is worried that the new congress lead by republicans -- asking for roll backs on the measures. >> roberta, i can't comment on the specific proposals. i've seen some of the news reports but this is a piece of legislation that is 1600 pages long and we've had it for less than 16 hours. we're still conducting a review to see all of the take a look at foots and takes included. i'll hold reserve judgment on the individual provisions. let me say as a general matter that the policy achievements is the passage of wall street reform that ensures that middle class families and small business owners across the country have a voice in our financial system. their interests are represented and protected. that is good for middle class families and economy. i think it represents a significant departure from wall street interests that are used to walking around town with their lobbyists and getting whatever they want. and i don't think the american people the vast majority -- >> you have josh ernst conducting the daily briefing somewhat unusual morning briefing there at the white house. we asked our guests to stick around to spend some time talking about what mr. ernst said about the release of the report yesterday and also that congressional budget deal that was reached as well. roger simon, sticking around, aki sticking around. ayman, let me start with you. what we did not hear josh ernst do was answer the question asked twice in two different ways. did torture jeeyield results? he deliberately sidestepped the question twice there. he went on to say what the president said before it sacrificed mort thorl. what do you make of that? the idea that barack obama won't come out and say whether the torture yielded. >> i think it's probably the most accurate answer from the perspective of the hard data. you know, the cia acknowledged the report there was no conclusive data as to whether or not the intelligence lead to whey call the prevention of imminent attacks. the so called ticking time bomb. i think what has happened is the question is becoming extremely politicized. what we're seeing people who are defending the actions are saying it produced results and those that are saying that this was torture and comprised our moral belief are saying there was no tangible result. >> and you have folks saying even if it did produce intelligence it's not worth it. >> no. >> i want to pick up on something we're going talk about. part of the discussion that happened over the past 24 hours has been off the mark. and we're hearing this is from aki from the revolution of the tortures themselves are not that ground breaking. yes, we learned about some of the new tactics. what is more interesting and i've had a chance to to read the report. the extent to which the senior leadership of the country was not aware of the tactics, and the central question i believe sometimes being missed was it a deliberate decision? was this a politically motivated decision to keep the president out of the loop because of the possible political repercussions of this? did somebody feel what was happening was so wrong it should not reach the highest level of government. if it did, what would be the political fall out of that? what we've seen in the report is the cia did suggest to let president bush know about this. it seems it was shot down. where and when is unclear until about 2006 when the president was notified. >> aki -- by condoleezza rice. >> yes. >> how has that gotten lost? >> the interesting thing about the report, i've talked to some former and current intelligence officials of the agency, and they say isn't it interesting the report really absolved everybody of blame. the white house of blame who authorized this and absolves the doj for blessing this, also, absolves the lawyers. >> congress and justice department. >> absolutely. remember the following 9/11 terrorism was the thing that everybody talked about for years on end. when we achieved certain successes other top al qaeda folks, people didn't even ask the right questions or they didn't want to know the extent of these things. i want to be clear that some of the techniques used here certainly rose to the level of what we call now torture. and it does. it should not have been done. however, it's not just the cia, which is the lowest person on the political totem pole and the mid level cia operatives who had interrogate the individuals, it's falling upon them when the blame is in a lot of other places. >> roger, quickly, roger. is the cia -- has the central intelligence agency been scapegoated here? >> i don't think so. i don't think it's been absolved of blame. i think the report said we're not going prosecute them criminally. the central point to me is 9/11 did not destroy us as a nation. what is going to destroy us as a nation is giving up our democratic principles. to quote ronald reagan, america is supposed to be a shining city on a hill with liberty and justice for all. it's not supposed to be a nation of rectal hydration. if we become our enemies then our enemies have defeated us. i think that is the thrust of this report. >> roger, we'll leave it there. thank you. aki, thank you. ayman, thank you. developing now it is being called the historic storm. it's bearing down on the entire west coast. meanwhile, parts of the northeast are expecting up to 2 feet of snow. a live forecast next. as always we invite you to join our conversation online. we're all over the interwebs. there we are! and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down. so imagine, what if there was a new class of medicine that works differently to lower blood sugar? 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league's personal conduct policy. part of the change a player accused of domestic violence under immediate paid leagve whie the league conducts an investigation. it comes as a string of incidents has happened throughout the season. a new policy is going to be modelled after the new york police department's practices. according to the paper, goodell recently reached out to new york police commissioner to find out how the department handles domestic violence within the ranks. in a recent interview he addressed the criticism how he handled previous including incidents including ray rice incident. >> i think for me it's in some ways challenging, of course. i would call it educational. i would also call it rewarding in the sense it's given me an opportunity to understand how you have to do things better. he's expected to announce the policy later today. it is already drawing criticism from the players union which says it was not given any input whatsoever on the new policy. i'm joined by editor of the washington post sports blog. thank you for being with me. it was part of the 2011 collective bargaining agreement between the nfl and the players association. the union says they were not consulted on the policy. they are especially taking issue with the fact that goodell would still remain the chief disciplinary and could be in charge of hearing appeals. is that right? >> it is unclear what the new policy is going to entail. part we're lead to believe involves appointing someone, a special council does the person have complete an ton my. do they work for the nfl? part would involve that person at least initially handling cases all though, you know, roger will not see the power on that. he'll give up some power here. that's one thing he's got an enormous amount of criticism for. it's extraordinary to see him giving up some power. it seems a little bit will be given up. >> has the players union said what kind of system it would like to see instead of the schl that currently exists and perhaps the one being talked about right now? >> well, not really. an finiissue is are you talking about felonies here? players accused of something that is felony, a misdemeanor. should there be a pay zhal responds to those? how should it work out. and of course they want to have a voice in it. you have 1500 players you would think they would have a voice in that. but, you know, the nfl and the owners have always been the who sort of ruled with an iron fist on this. and goodell, especially. >> since 2000 there have been 135 domestic violence allegations against nfl players. according to league documents. the toughest suspensions amounted to one game. in many cases no punishment. how sweep dog ying do you think new policy will be as far as changing the culture of the league? >> i'm not sure how it will work. i think that's going to have to come a little bit farther down the line, you know, they brought in women to work within the league on that. on missions of domestic violence they fired some women, actually which is always a good idea and they appear to be listening to them in a way they haven't before. i think the other thing about the policy. i'm expecting. i'm looking to see how specific it's going to be. will it be, you know, guidelines for two games here, four games here, six games, you know, that was part of the thing that got them in so much trouble when they gave ray rice two games and giving other people longer suspensions for, you know, marijuana use. >> i would imagine there are going to be a lot of folks that take issue that the guys are going to be on paid leave as well. >> right. >> and paid leave for an nfl player is a few hundred thousand dollars. >> it's good money. it was one of the things they found, i think, this fall earlier was that, oh, wait, we have this we can put players here. i think they were thrilled to see they had something of an out. i'm not sure it's quite the out they think it is. >> thank you for the 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you were in the room when the vice president was speaking there, right? >> yes, i was. >> how cool was that? >> it was amazing, actually. i got to see where all the politicians, like they actually work out, where obama sleeps and things like that and that nature. >> you're part of big brothers big sisters in new jersey, is that right? >> essex county. >> and tell us more how that's helped you. >> well, it's helped me a lot. because now i see -- like, all right. so basically like i know the positive things i can do to do to the community and like everybody can give back at a certain moment in time. >> yeah. and before big brothers, big sisters, that wasn't the case? >> no. the case was like i was a wild boy. but being with shawn, kelly, my mentor darren and carlos, they really helped me change my life around. >> how long have you had a big brother? >> for probably two, three months now. >> two, three months now. >> and, again, for folks who aren't familiar, this is essentially what they do. they take -- they take guys who need, and young ladies, as well, who need mentors and match them up. tell me about this essay that you wrote that got you to the white house. >> well, the essay was, they asked me to write a thanksgiving essay because through the time i've been going through current and rough times, i always remain, stay positive. and they really admired that about me. >> i read the essay. it's very impressive. we don't have time for you to read the whole thing, but i wanted you to read a part of it. can you read -- this is a part of the essay that you wrote that got you to the white house. >> okay. no one can tell me i won't make it because my future is unwritten. only i can decide if i fail or succeed. today i am choosing to succeed. for thanksgiving, be thankful for who you have in life. think about the positive moments because they will keep you going. as long as keeps moving forward, you should never give up. be thankful, stay positive, and happy thanksgiving. >> how bout that. you were, what they call, at one point, at risk. >> yeah. >> not the case anymore. what are you doing next year? 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