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MSNBCW MTP Daily June 15, 2018

To lavish laiz praise on kim jongun. Do you know why . Because i dont want the see a Nuclear Weapon destroy you and your family. And how the white house is dodging al days agos of separating thousands of families at the border. I hate it. Who the president is charging with the zero tolerance immigration order. This is mtp daily, and it starts right now. Good evening im chuck todd here in washington. Welcome to mtp daily. Its been a jaw dropping news day on many levels. We have said that before. But today felt a bit more extraordinary. While taking questions from reporters, the president attempted to discredit the russia investigation by cherry picking evidence from yesterdays ig report that was all about the clinton investigation. In an interview with fox he said he wants his people to quote sit up at attention just as they do in north korea. In both cases he spread falsehood after falsehood on topics ranging from the humanitarian crisis at the bore kerr, to russias annex of crimea, to Paul Manafort and his campaign. His former campaign chief is in jail right now. Trumps lawyer is signaling that pardons not just for manafort could be coming. A judge in washington today ruled that manafort be taken into custody after mull ears team alleged he was conspiring to obstruct justice and tamper with witnesses in his investigation. Manafort pleaded not guilty to the new charges and with mueller fuelling and putting pressure on manafort to flip, Rudy Giuliani said in an interview things might get cleaned up with some president ial pardons. The president himself weighed in calling the judges ruling quote very unfair. Moments before all of this, he spoke to reporters about the legal situation facing his former campaign chief. I think a lot of it is very unfair. I mean i look at some of them where they go back 12 years. Manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. Paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. He worked for me what, for 49 days or something . A very short period of time. I feel badly for some people because they have gone back 12 years the find thing about somebody. As i mentioned, the president also seized on yesterdays report from the justice departments Inspector General and used it to undermine the Mueller Investigation. I would remind you that the ig stated the following, quote, there was no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations, unquote. But the president today claimed that the report proved the exact opposite. They were plotting against my election, probably has never happened like that in terms of intelligen intelligence, in terms of anything else. But they were actually plotting against my election. Again, that is not what the report said. As they say, dont let the facts get in the way of a good story. The headline right now from the wall street journal, d. O. J. Clinton report blasts comey and agents but find no bias in conclusion. The end result was wrong. By the president s telling not only does a report concluding there was no bias prove bias but it proves trump was inspect if the russia investigation. The report yesterday totally exxon rates me. There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. If you read the report you will see that. I did nothing wrong. There was no kluge. There was no obstruction. The ig report yesterday went a long way to show that. And i think that the Mueller Investigation has been totally discredited. Wow. Lets bring in tonights panel, alfonso aguilar. And steve burreler thof tailspin the peep and forces behind americas 50year fall and those fighting to reverse it. Tailspin is a feeling i think a lot of us have today steve. Yam eesh, this is yamiche, there are so many times we say it is an extraordinary moment with donald trump. And then he follows it up with another extraordinary moment. Today was breath taking. Today was breath taking. And the fact he wandered onto the lawn after watching fox and friend and why dont i talk to my colleagues in the driveway more than 50 minutes tells you this is a president who wants to get things off of his chest because he had no events planned today. Back to the ig report i think its important that he continues to real estate pete there was no collusion. He continued to create this narrative that he is a victim of this overzealous department that he oversys ads president because the. The report wasnt about the interference of russia in the election but the fact that all the people watching object tv might take that in and supporters might eat that up and say that heres the president once again claiming he has been cleared. I boggles the mind. You know, steve, in your book, you attempt in some ways to try to explain how did we get here, got into this mess . And look, we can go down road. But what did you see today . I saw today what you saw last friday and the friday before and the friday before that. And the thursday and the wednesday and the tuesday and the sorry. You introduced your show by saying my god this was an unbelievable week. All this stuff happened. And it seems like every friday thats what you are saying and what everybody is saying, because its true. His strategy obviously is just to throw as much out there as he possibly can. The more desperate he gets the more he is throwing out there. If you read the igs report, i mean, it obviously says nothing like he says it says. It has all kinds of nuggets in there that basically prove the lie of everything he is saying. You know, is he im interested in this, alphonso, and i go back is forth. E is he doing this because he is emboldened and feels stronger than ever or because he is nervous and feels the probe getting closer. Is it both . Both. He is questioning the investigation and trying to undermine it. Clearly his statements this morning regarding the ig report were not truthful and over the top. However w the ig report, we have to be careful because it is a little bit messy. Messy. Its confusing. It is. It does say the investigation was not bias of the but it does identify cases of personal bias of several fbi individuals who were leading the investigation. And thats troublesome. He does say that that cast as cloud over the fbi and over the investigation that trump is going to take advantage of. Use as a sledge hammer. This is not the end of it. But i think this opens the door to another ig investigation of the russian investigation. You were about to you tweeted yesterday that this report that anybody who wants to can cherry pick anything. Thats true. But one of the other things you could cherry pick is that the agent who sent all of those Text Messages indicating his bias, you know, against the president also was one of those who urged that they reopen the investigation once they got and wanted to have grand jury and wanted to use the grand jury. Pulled no punches. Look but dont let the facts get in the way. That ruins the narrative. But the thing that President Trump has been able to prove is that when he starts saying something over and over and over again that somehow it just becomes part of this the ethos and that his supporters believe him over anything else. So there is the fact that he has kind of become the fact, the alternative fact as you smartly pulled out for us. That the alternative facts are going to matter. We put together a mash of eight claims he made that are disprovable completely or mostly. Take a listen. I think that the report yesterday may be more importantly than anything totally exxon rates me. There was no collusion, there was no obstruction. If you read the or the you will see that. The Mueller Investigation has been totally discredited. I feel badly for general flynn. Some people say he lied and some people say he didnt lie. I mean, really it turned out maybe he didnt lie. Did you dictate the stale about donald trump jr. Lets not talk about that. Its irrelevant. I hate the children being taken away. The democrats have to change the law. Thats their law. We now have a very Good Relationship with north korea when i came into this job it looked like war. I have solved thattan pro be prochlt now we are getting it memorialized. You solved it. The problem is largely solved. President obama gave away crimea. All of that happened on the north lawn. Thats eight claims. We left out one headline from yesterday, which is the trump foundation. Oh. Oh, yeah. Embedded in there are criminal charge has the irs can bring. I have got earth one and earth two here. I was going to get to that. In a normal sayings that would be a huge deal. But the department of Homeland Security was on the phone with reporters and i was on the call where they were detailing the fact they are separating separated about 2,000 kids from their parents or from their guardians when they came to this country as part of the zero tolerance program. Jeff sessions is out there saying this is our program. We want it to happen. We want people to be deterred. And President Trump saying this is actually the democrat. The administration is taking credit for it that it is a good thing. The other lie is that it is the law that requires this. Immigration law does not require family to be separated. Its the zero tolerance policy. When people enter ulgly, they are going to be tried criminally. You speaked three or four things. The crimea thing we could have done. What are earth one voters living on . I could make a strong case that it is a horrible week for the president. Manafort is in jail. An ig report end up being a victory lap for clinton. The north korea summit seems to be a sham. Economy stairs down a trade war. On earth two, in trump landia. Gop lead remembers losing patients with mueller, the ig report proofs the fbi bias. G7 allies, you want rip us off to. Trump gets tough on the border. Economy sets new records. What world are voters living in . The majority of vote remembers living in the first world. More important, they are lig in a world where their i think with as really arent going up. Where opportunities really arent going up and a lot of this stuff is just stuff in the headlines. Their lives have not improved. Those coal miners that he promised to get their jobs back, they still dont have their jobs. I think they are moe more focused on that than they are even on any of this stuff. Yamiche . Voters are living in a wrl where mark sanford lost an election and where they see republicans who are not 100 behind the president lose their jobs. I think voters at least the voters living in earth number two they want people that are going to be completely loyal to the president. And a lot of People Living in earth one, they are the blue wave that the democrats are hoping is coming. But the democrats are still getting their message together. Their so many headlines, the democrats arent saying this is the one you really need to Pay Attention to. They have thing they are throwing up on the wall but its really not sticking. They have to focus on something positive. They cant win by just attacking the president. The country is polarized. In democracy, you dont blame voters but we have voters who are polarized and they want to believe what the voters have to say. The problem is the information loop. The information loop is destructive right now. The feedback loop that the president is participating in right now is destructive to facts. I agree buy i think both sides can go to their media outlet of choice and get articles that given that every one of my colleagues grounds their arguments in facts. Every one of my colleagues grounds their arguments in facts. There are other places that dont ground their arguments in facts. I agree with that. I think you have to pick and choose the issues frankly chuck. I dont want to get into a media debate. But that echo chamber i agree with you, dont blame the voters. Right. But thats the issue here. We are not we have people intentionally not agreeing on the same set of facts. You cant have a false equivalentsy about facts. Either there is a law that forces those kids to be separated or there isnt. Its not my opinion. There is a brouhaha right now that trump is separating families. It is true. But in the Obama Administration we had administration of families. I didnt see the people complaining. There were come plants. Luis gutierrez was. There were protests. Thats when people were charged with real crimes. No, no, no anybody that entered illegally. Father was separated from mother and child. That happened and i didnt see lot of people complaining. The circumstances for those arrests i will be interviewing the commissioner of the borer the patrol on this show in a couple of minutes. We will discuss that and more in a few minutes. You have to stick around. Up next, whats behind the president s continued endorsement of a dictator. And later an mtp daily exclusive that i just told you about, thousands of children being separated from their parents at the u. S. mexico border. We will talk to the man tasked with the easy weres immigration orders. Until. We lost it. Today, were renewing our commitment to you. Fixing what went wrong. And ending Product Sales goals for branch bankers. So we can focus on your satisfaction. Its a new day at wells fargo. But its a lot like our first day. Wells fargo. Established 1852. Reestablished 2018. 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Dont let anyone think anything different. Right. He speaks, and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same. That crazy scrum right after the president claimed he was kidding when he said that. And he called the reporter who asked him to clarify those points, quote the worst. Joying me now, john brennan. A Senior Intelligence contributor here at msnbc news. Welcome. Thank you. Before i get to the issue of kim and north korea you were referenced in the ig report. The ig report contains an email that comey sent to you and clapper explaining his silence on the trump russia probe. In the email he said, i think the window is closed and the opportunity for an official statement with four weeks until a president ial election i think the marginal incremental disruption and impact of the statement would be hugely outweighed by the damage to the intelligence communitys reputation for independence. How did you react to that . There were some tough decisions at that time. It didnt envy jim comey who had a number of interests he had to balance at the same time being as forthcoming as possible with the congress and with the president. Any criminal investigations that are underway get difficult. I did not envy his position. There were some of those decisions i disagreed with, some i agreed with. It was tough. Whose decision was this. It was going back and forth. There were a lot of discussions in the white house situation room, what should be said, who should say it, whether or not there needed to be a corps outside of voices out there. Clapper and johnson, the director of national sfwel swren and Homeland Security would put out a statement. There were questions with an Ongoing Investigation whether or not jim comey should be part of that or not. Jim thought it wasnt really going to help the case in terms of his name being there. The fact in a the administration at a senior level was going to put it out there would serve the purpose. Were you involved in that infamous gang of eight meeting where reportedly Mitch Mcconnell was the one who threw cold water on trying to make a more bipartisan ander mo of a lets link arms this is Serious Business statement . No, i wasnt involved in that meeting. I had my own individual meetings with the gang of eight prior to that where i spoke with leader mcconnell as well as others. Were they questioning your findings at that time . Senator mcconnell did, yes. Under what guise . I think he was he thought that maybe the Democratic Administration was trying to undermine a republican candidate. And i took great umbrage at that, and i told him. And i said, senator, i would not in any way politicize any type of intelligence. So i want to make sure that you understand that this is the considered view and assess innent and intelligence from cia. I let it be known in know Uncertain Terms that i did find that comment of his a bit repugnant. Did he ask questions . Did he want more information . Did he say im suspectcal, show me more . Was there any curiosity . Im not going to go into details of the meeting other than to say i think he was skeptical and also i dont think he was all that pleased with my bringing it to him. Was he un did you get the sense he was uninterested in finding more information out from you. Well, he didnt evince a strong interest in finding out what was going on. I think he was reacting to what i was saying in terms of what implications it might have for the republican candidate. You compared the president to a demagogue in an op ed. Im interested how you think of the president in the way he is describing kim jongun and the way he has been talking about him and the impact that that has around the world. Frankly im sad that im not finding anything he says shocking im in. I find them all outrageous. The fact he has treated kim jongun with deference as well as speaking of him as honorable. s does pot, murderous authoritarian murderer. What has he ton. Murdered political opponents. When the president said he is tough. Tough translates into yeah, he murders his opponents. A lot of authoritarian leaders and despots have been t

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