Broke from the Obama Administration on not one, but two issues, the Palestinian Conflict and the nuclear proliferation. Lets get you caught up first on the mideast. The new york security councor n supposed to agree on international law. But overnight, Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted that they should veto the resolution. President elect trump agreed. He told the sitting president to veto the resolution. That put a showdown at the u. N. , placing odds against both the president elect and netanyahu, a key ally. They said they were planning to abstain on the vote, going both against netanyahu and trump. That vote has now been postponed. A few minutes later, trump again broke with the policy, this time on Nuclear Weapons, tweeting this. The United States must greatly strengt strengthen and expand its Nuclear Capability at a time when the world must come to its senses regarding nukes. While president obama has been hesitant to speak out against trump during his last weeks in office. Usually during a president ial transition, the incoming president defers to the west wing on matters of Foreign Policy. It is something that president obama was mindful of during his own transition back in 2008. And i want to be very careful that we are sending the right signals to the world as a whole that i am not the president , and i wont be until january 20. But when asked about it earlier today at trump tower, trump adviser Kellyanne Conway insisted the president elect is respecting the one president at a time mentality. President elect trump has been incredibly respectful toward president obama and toward the fact that until january 20, we have a sitting president. At the same time hes asked his opinion on many different matters, and in most instances, this is not the first time hes been asked or provided his opinion. Hes done that all through the campaign, so it should really surprise very few people thats his position. He will not act on it until hes actually in the white house. Chief correspondent and host a Andrea Mitchell. Andrea, big picture here. Im trying to remember, when have we seen anything like this, two major issues here and a break of whats been, what, decades of president . The fact that donald trump did campaign on different policies. The problem here is, lets say, on the nuclear issue, its confusing. He is talking about expanding the nuclear arsenal. And we have treaties with russia. He seems to be responding to what Vladimir Putin said today about strengthening their nuclear arsenal, their Nuclear Capability, but Vladimir Putin says that about once a week. Donald trump responding on twitter seemed to be making new policy. The u. S. And russia have treaties, the stark treaty. And they are limited to 1,550 deployed weapons by february of next year, february of 2018, i should say, a little more than a year from now. So this would be opening up a whole new vista of a nuclear arms race, and thats the concern of many, many experts. On the israeli issue, there seems to be a tightly coordinated nexxus between tel aviv and trump tower or maralago in that Donald Trumps response came after netanyahu geared up and went into diplomatic mode. I believe it was israel prompting europe and the Security Council on this resolution that pulled the plug on t. They were all ready to go, and according to our diplomats, they were lining up the votes today and then suddenly everything was postponed, which could mean cancelling. Hallie, you do wonder, now were getting so close to this new administration. Are these tweets like the trump equivalent of a policy paper . Whats the end game here . I dont know if you can answer that question definitively, chris, but i do think they are tea leaves but maybe something a little bit stronger than that. This is an opportunity. The president elect is now the president elect. Hes no longer a candidate tweeting about various things. He is going to be, in 29 days, in the white house, and so as we have talked about with on this program, on other programs, the words, the things that he says via twitter have meaning. What has more meaning . His actions as president , and i think thats what a lot of folks are waiting to see and watching to see. I would say with this particular tweet, it seemed to come and im talking about the nuclear tweet, the idea that the u. S. Needs to fortify its Nuclear Capabilities came from a little bit out of nowhere, right . It seemed to have come out of the blue. This was not a topic that had been percolating in any particular sense in media over the last 24 hours or so, but what was notable is that also today russian president Vladimir Putin reportedly said the same thing, talked about fortifying russias nuclear kpashlcapabili and there obviously has been a lot of talk about future ties under President Trump in 2017. You have the nuclear talk which you laid out so clearly, and then you have this longstanding policy, which youre absolutely right. There is no surprise to anybody that donald trump feels differently than the president does, or the president has had this ongoing dispute with netanyahu. Thats not the question here. The question here is, what is u. S. Policy . I think also for a lot of people, who is going to speak for u. S. Foreign policy . Trump discussed with the New York Times that his sudden law jared cushioner could play an Important Role. We know what donald trump wants to do, which is to be the one to find the path to middle east peace. Lets just remind folks what president elect trump had to say and get your thoughts on the other side. Jared is a very smart guy. Hes a very good guy. The people that know him, hes a quality person and i think he could be very helpful. I would love to be able to be the one that made peace with israel and the palestinians. I would love that. That would be such a great achievement. Because nobodys been able to do it successfully. I think he would be very good at it. He knows the region, knows the people, knows the players. Andreandrea, isnt one of ths to strong Foreign Policy clarity . Clarity on message and who speaks for the administration . You could argue you can keep people off balance. There is the clarity and consistency approach to Foreign Policy, and theres the other lets keep them guessing. Larry kushners father created this very radical support group for settlements, the most radical of settlements to the right of netanyahu. So there is history here and it is a different policy. And it is also an abandonment of decades of policy going back to 1979 to camp david. So were talking about republican and democratic administrations. On the nuclear front, we should point out that jason miller, the spokesman, trying to clarify, apparently, this tweet on nuclear issues, says he is against proliferation, he wants to combat proliferation and he also wants to strengthen deterredete deterrence. He didnt answer questions to what he fully meant. Putin says this all the time, but for donald trump to put it out there was surprising, and it does seem to be a casual approach. Some people are suggesting that its because he met with nuclear and defense contractors yesterday, including Lockheed Martin that are trying to justify the f35 fighter jet because it could carry a Nuclear ArmedCruise Missile system. We dont know. That would be interesting to see. The Heritage Foundation which has influenced some of the Foreign Policy debate has written about expanding Nuclear Weapons. So there is a lot of stuff out there. Whom hes listening to and whether or not its part of the confusion of some of the things hes said about arming south korea and arming japan with Nuclear Weapons around the campaign remains to be seen. Thank you both. Let me bring in sara fagan, a former aide to george w. Bush. Kareem john pierre. None of you are surprised that donald trump is tweeting some of the things hes tweeting. Theres nothing in the twitter world that could surprise us, and certainly, sara, twitter didnt exist when you were working for a president. But what, if any, concerns do you have as you observe whats going on, as somebody who has been on the inside of this . Well, i think, you know, donald trump is used to be able to use his twitter account as he was in the campaign where there are few ramifications to a tweet. Now as hes the president elect, soon to be president , the whole world is paying attention to everything he says. When he goes out and makes a statement about Nuclear Weapons as he just did, the world will react to that. And i think theres going to be a learning curve by the Trump Administration that a casual comment by him, which may be he means it casually. The rest of the world doesnt take it casually. Hes simply saying we need to modernize, which frankly republicans and democrats agree, and yet these are things that can cause shifts in other countrys policies, and i think theres a learning curve, and ultimately, i think donald trump will rein his twitter in. Eventually ehell be forced to. Jennifer, too, how do you report Something Like this . You report it straight and say, this is what he said, and take whatever analysis you want to give it . There are inherent challenges for reporters, for people in the Foreign Policy realm, for folks who run other countries. I mean, this lack of clarity that Andrea Mitchell was talking about does raise a lot of questions. Well, sara is exactly right. This did affect the world, and the trump team knew that. They actually let us know at about 8 00 this morning to expect some, quote, unquote, big news on the u. N. Resolution. So they knew this was going to be a big deal as soon as it hit. Interestingly enough, i think that donald trump has a likeminded friend in the twitter world with the israeli Prime Minister who was tweeting against this resolution at 3 00 in the morning his time. Trump waited until about 8 30 this morning actually, florida time in order to echo what netanyahu had said. But they both are likeminded about getting their opinions out there no matter what hour of the day. But trump was just reiterating what netanyahu was saying. And the this makes it very clearly that he supports what thet net wants to do. And kareem, it will be interesting to see once he actually is president and congress is back in session, how do the democrats respond to this . I dont mean this as a joke, either, and im not meaning it to be facetious . Do you have one up overnight monitoring the twitter feed and doing strategic work until people wake up the next morning. I get it, chris. His twitter account has become a threat to our National Security. Foreign policy is incredibly complex. You cant boil it down to 140 characters. When he. It is that consensus that kept us safe for general tragsz off generation, and i think. Tweeting about National Security and Foreign Policy many the National Security, he actually spoke about it. The whole idea of a muslim ban could be coming back. Z what do you think about revising your plans about muslims in the United States . You know my plans. You are 100 correct. Whats happening is disgrace ful. Sara, where do you see this going . Well have to wait and see. He has backtracked on this previously. Certainly that statement implied that he may go forward with that policy. One of the things that we know from donald trump, which he said directly in his very first Foreign Policy speech, was that the United States was too predictable. What weve seen from him, whether its taking the call from the south Korean Leader to these tweets today to perhaps this ban on muslims which hes talked about during the campaign, is that he is reacting to his own comments which is that the United States is too predictable, and he has been very unpredictable as it relates to Foreign Policy. Whether that puts people off, throws them off their game, makes the United States have more negotiating power in these transactions around the world, i think remains to be seen, but he is true to his word so far. Sara, jennifer, careen, stick around, well be talking in a bit. Up next, whats next for North Carolinas bathroom bill . Well be talking with the mayor, next. Philly yes if you want to make some money, you could get a paper route. 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After days of wrangling, a deal to repeal the socalled transgender bathroom law collapsed yesterday, spectacularly. Lgbt advocates say that law is discriminatory. Governor roy cooper said the failure to that deal is a broken promise. Im disappointed for the people of North Carolina for the jobs that people wont have. Im disappointed that we have yet to remove distakdain or the reputation of our great state around this country and around the world. Meanwhile, boycotts that far bill are escalating. Pay pal pulled out. Estimated cost, 24 million. Deutsche bank, 30. 5 million. Convention cancellations, 109 million. Nba, 100 million. Ncaa 20 million. Acc, 54 million. Just there, thats an estimated total of 338 million. So how does North Carolina plan to remove the stigma and stop the bleeding. Jennifer roberts is the mayor of charlotte, North Carolina. Thanks a lot for being with us. A lot of this has to do with the back and forth of what the council did in charlotte. We know what republicans are saying. They say this is no more than a power play by the new governor. What do you say about what happened last night . Well, we were extremely disappointed in charlotte to see this whole agreement break apart. We acted in good faith in charlotte. We actually tried to do the reset they asked for to take us back to february 21st. We took all of our ordinance off our books, and we didnt have a time limit. We were under the understanding that they were going to uphold their end of that promise and they were going to repeal hb2 and lift a cloud over our state. We are extremely disappointed. These numbers we showed, the financial losses, are absolutely stagg staggering. I spent a lot of time in North Carolina over the course of, you know, the primary and the general election. You look at that number, almost 340 million. And there are plenty of republicans, plenty of people in the Business Community who have been obviously pushing hard for this to go away. Whats your next step . Well, i tell you, i remind folks that the people who really suffer the most in these economic challenges are small businesses. This is really hard for charlotte. We hope that people are calling our legislators. We hope that people realize the power has been in the hands of the legislature the whole time. Charlotte has done everything we possibly could, weve done everything they asked us to do, and they still cant come through on their promise. Were urging people to call your legislators and tell them that hb2 continues to harm our entire state. We saw that the governor elect who wasnt even officially declared for a while after the election, the governor elect stepped to the podium, hes upset about this. But what does it say from your perspective about the ability to get anything done in North Carolina with the division between the Governors Office and your legislature . You know, were a state with a lot of different, diverse viewpoints. We have rural areas, we have big cities. Charlotte is a big, diverse, growing city, one of the Fastest Growing cities in the country. We need to be able to compete in the 21st century in a global economy. We have to figure out a way to understand there are differences and to live with those differences and to recognize there is a lot to celebrate in a city that has all the great assets and the great people that charlotte has. There are people who say that part of the problem with this is actually, in many ways its a very simple bill. It has been sort of simplified in the media, to be honest. We call it the transgender bathroom bill, but it does impact a lot of different people in a lot of different ways. If this bill stands, what do you see beyond the obvious . Beyond talking about the concerns in the Lgbt Community and the pullouts by businesses, by the ncaas, by all the different monetary losses. What do you see as the biggest concern . Well, i think that the fact that it preempts local governments. So our cities, again, theyre growing, theyre diverse. Our cities are not allowed to pass ordinances that merely want people to be treated equally. We want everyone to feel welcome. We have a great Tourism Industry in the sat of incotate of north. In charlotte, our jobs are in tourism. We want everyone in charlotte to feel welcomed and valued. With this bill in place, we know people recognize we dont have protections for the Lgbt Community. They also prevented any city from putting a minimum wage. Not allowing cities to be the laboratories of innovation, creativity and growth that we need to be if our state is going to continue to compete. Mayor jennifer roberts, thank you so much for the time. Thanks for having me. Still ahead, the future of president obamas signature legislation. Well talk about the Affordable Care act and more with secretary sCynthia Burwell. Keep it right here. 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Music playing president elect donald trump campaigned on the full repeal of the Affordable Care act in his first 100 days in office. That hasnt stopped americans for signing up for 2017 coverage, though. New numbers out just yesterday show nearly 6. 4 Million People registered for coverage through healthcare. Gov so far, more tal million more than last year. Earlier this week, chuck todd sat down with health and Human Services secretary Cynthia Burwell asking why people should sign up for coverage when president elect trump is vowing to get rid of the system. Since its enrollment time, why should anybody enroll if the next president of the United States is promising to repeal and replace it within weeks of taking office . People right now are signing up for coverage in the year 2017, and weve seen we had a record day last week with 670,000 people signing up in one single day, and they should sign up, because i think we have heard both from the Insurance Companies who consider it a contract if you enter in and you make your premium payments. Weve heard from the president elect he doesnt want to disrupt coverage in that way, and weve heard from the hill as well, that they dont want disruption of coverage in 17. Beyond that, it is a different concern. But for those people who want and need coverage should come in and get it for 2017. Are you concerned, though, that some people arent signing up because theyre concerned its not going to be there . We had a record day and our enrollments have been growing even since last years period of time. But youre right to reflect it as a headwind. Weve already had 300 calls to our call center expressing that concern. When youre trying to tell people theres affordability and about Financial Assistance, it is a big headwind. Why do you think this is the year that the explosion on the premiums happened . Why was this year look, i know that the overall average, if you spread it out, it doesnt feel so bad, this hike, but in some states it was massive. I think when you talk about premiums, though, we have to talk about the whole picture for the nation. And there are 150 million americans who get their insurance through their job, probably like most people here, and for those americans in the last six years, weve had five of the slowest years of premium growth that have occurred. So for them, while you dont want any premium growth at all, its been slowing from before the Affordable Care act. For people in the marketplace, what we know is 85 of those folks are basically insulated because what happens is your Financial Assistance moves as premium moves. And for the 15 , it is an issue. And its one that we think is the place. Those are the places we need to focus to improve the Affordable Care act. And its in particular states. Theres been a lot of focus on states like arizona where it was extreme, but not a lot of focus on it is kind of extreme now. Indiana, negative 2 . If you look at ohio, 2 . So what do you know about what kind of did president obama make progress on president elect trump on the Health Care Issue . It sounded like from president elect trump that he did. What do you know about this . All i know is the Public Statement, and the Public Statement is the president elect has said preserving the ability to have your child on your policy until 26 is something that he believes is important and important to maintain and preserving preexisting conditions so that you cant not get Health Insurance if you have a preexisting condition, Something Like cancer, asthma, diabetes, heart disease. So you buy the idea that you think he is at least convinced, the new congress, that whatever the replacement deal t h, it ha be a simultaneous deal. Thats what we believe, the idea of repealing a replacement. People make decisions in the first half of the year. They may pull out. Just as you say, we want more protection, not less. If youre an insurance company, what incentive is it to stay in the marketplace right now . In its current form, what youve just seen is weve had very strong open enrollment, so its a product that people want and need. And that part is working. So in a world where you can move through this uncertainty, the market is maturing. Its only in its third year right now and we see in states like North Carolina where there were some real issues before and there were concerns about could insurers be profitable, we see that starting to happen already in 2016. Say your home state, west virginia. A lot of poor, white Rural Counties have benefited a great deal from the Affordable Care act. Politically, they have not benefited. The two dont seem to go together, and ive heard people saying, why can donald trump get a lot of credit for saving a thousand jobs for carrier but president obama cant get credit for providing insurance for 20 Million People . Is it just a Communications Problem . I think its a problem of connecting with the substance. And i think thats where were moving now. In the past beaks its moving from the rhetoric to the reality, what this means for real peoples lives. Its not a word, its not a symbol. We know the polling thats now being done that doesnt just test are you for or against obamacare, but instead talks about what it really is, but you see very different results. Sylvia matthews borough, thanks for your service. It can be a big grind but it is a big honor as well. It is a big honor. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Well have more from chucks interview on our website meetthepress. Com. Jennifer, lets look at this in the big picture. So you have clearly, as chuck just pointed out, and as the secretary just pointed out, you have a product that people want. You have a lot of people who have signed up. Does that give those who dont want to repeal obamacare any ammunition realistically to fight what clearly has been stated by the president elect of the United States that he wants to get rid of obamacare as we know it . Well, you know, she was exactly right when she said that people really have nothing to lose by signing up right now and theyre encouraging people to do that. That benefits the Obama Administration by reinforcing that they were right and this law was beneficial, but people really do have nothing to lose if they do sign up right now. Best case scenario, they get another years worth of Subsidized Health care and they dont have to pay that penalty for being uninsured. The worst case scenario, and this is unlikely, is that Congress Moves so quickly and repeals obamacare that all those insurance policies are canceled, but thats so unlikely because the government has signed a contract with all those private insurers, and they cant just really set those all on fire without a big fat court lawsuit. Having said that, i think there is a clarity, isnt there, careen, about what this president intends to do. When you look at who he has nominated, tom price, as somebody who has said obamacare has had disastrous effects. We know what he said about other programs like planned par parenthood, which he said has barbaric practices. What do you do if youre a democrat and you see this writing on the wall . I think you have to be very vigilant about this one and other members of his cabinet picks. Republicans are like the dog that caught the car on this one. For six years they had the same rhetoric of repeal it, replace it. But they never worked with democrats for those six years on even small tweaks to obamacare at all, and they continue to throw road blocks. Now what theyre learning is that its very difficult to just repeal it and replace it, because they dont have anything right now. So yes, we should be vigilant, we should be really concerned. Its not just obamacare, its also medicare thats at stake, and so we have to basically stay on top of this. Its interesting when you look at it, sara, the states where obamacare is most popular. Texas, North Carolina, georgia, places where there are people in high political places that theyve called for the repeal of obamacare. Susannah martinez, the republican governor of new mexico, politico has published a statement saying, we want to be clear the aca provides benefits. I think the aca has provided benefits for some people. Jennifer pointed out theres been a lot of talk about this rush to sign up, but lets not forget you have to pay a tax if you dont. Nobody has ever paid that tax. No, they havent, but according to the law that was signed by the president , they will owe a tax if they dont have coverage. So theyre incentivized to sign up. So you think most people are signing up because theyre afraid theyll be taxed as opposed to needing Health Insurance . I didnt say that. People who dont have Health Coverage need Health Coverage. They have an opportunity to get it, and if they dont, theyll get taxed. It is a no brainer all around. I dont think republicans will while they may be quick to repeal it, i dont think theyll be able to put in place revisions that kick people off the system immediately. Lets not forget, you pointed out some states where its popular, and there are people clearly benefiting from it, and there are provisions in it that are very good, that donald trump believes are good. But i believe one of the reasons donald trump was elected is not just because of the comey letter and hillarys failure to have a coherent message, its because in many of these states, premiums were going up as much as 25 . Right as people, late deciders, were thinking about this election, perhaps for the first time or perhaps most intently, they were getting provisions about their Health Care Premiums going up. And i think it had a very devastating impact. So politically, republicans won in part because this law was not properly thought out and has not been executed. We only have a few seconds left, but you know how things are on capitol hill. But there is always this feeling with a new congress, after a new administration comes in that maybe compromise is actually possible. Could there be some changes that even the democrats admit need to be made in the aca and basically, though, what it is and the people who are covered stay in place . Yeah, its definitely possible. The trumps policy is in full motion. I expect him to have something presented as soon as possible, and there will be parts of it, at least, that the democrats do not find all that repulseive. Thank you so much. We check on the trump transition with Kellyanne Conley playing a conway playing a role. Keep it right here. Welcome back. Remember the letter that Donald Trumps doctor wrote about his health during the campaign, the one that said thencandidate trumps medical tests were, quote, astonishingly excellent and that he would be the healthiest individual ever elected. Now trumps longtime doctor is commenting again on the president elects health, and wait. Dr. Harold bornstein spoke to the staff recently, his first interview since the election. Bornstein said, quote, there is nothing seriously wrong with him. Hes a few pounds overweight, which everyone can see, and thats it. He also said, it never occurred to me hes the oldest president , not for a second. Ronald reagan had presenile dement dementia. Did everyone cover that up . Thats why we have a speaker of the house and a whole line of people they c people. They can just keep dying. Also one of those things maybe you dont say aloud. Bornstein also referred to Hillary Clinton as, quote, an old lady in that interview. Hes not the only one in trumps inner circle who needled clinton today. Well tell you about that in 90 seconds. Inch of the car from virtually anywhere. Brakes are getting warm. Confirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. Understood, brake bias back 2 clicks. Giving them the agility to have speed precision. Because no one knows like at t. Has been a struggle. I considered all my options with my doctor, who recommended oncedaily toujeo®. Now im on the path to better blood sugar control. Toujeo® is a longacting insulin from the makers of lantus®. 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I think it is a good choice. She demonstrated during the campaign, i think, an ability to speak to him in a way that allowed him to communicate better. We saw that after she took over the campaign. I also think its an important choice, because if you believe the gossip, which of course, is gossip, bannon, steve bannon and Reince Priebus may be dont always see eye to eye, and maybe sometimes dont even get along. So if you have that dynamic in a white house, its very important there be a tiebreaker. So she could play a very Important Role in making sure that policy decisions and announcements and other important Government Matters dont get deadlocked between two strong personalities at the staff level. And we saw it to some extent, at least from what weve heard before, jennifer, that thats kind of a role she played a little bit when she came into the campaign itself. And we can also say, this should not be the first place where a person like a Reince Priebus or A Steve Bannon were locking heads, trying to get the ear of the president. Thats what everybody tries to do when youre that close to the west wing. But what world is Kellyanne Conway going to play in all of this . And i find it interesting, because she told a lot of us over the course of several months that she was going to go home and spend time with her kids. Right. It was a little bit unexpected. We really expected her to just stay in new york city with her four children, but what she brings is, she has a long history as a pollster. She understands the electorate really well, understands women, she has a specialty in advertising and polling women, in strategizing for a message to woman. She also just, you know, she is a trusted voice. Trump really rewards people who helped him win. And this little spot of communication staffers and his inner circle is not really inner circles. They were all people who were there with him on that night when he won this race. And karine, understanding that a lot of people like you and those on the democratic side are not really happy with any of the picks from donald trump, what do you make of Kellyanne Conway . Its not surprising as all. We knew she was either going to be on the inside or the outside. And it sounded like for the past couple of weeks, shes been trying to figure out what her role would be in the west wing, and its hard to not, you know, take on the lure of being in the west wing. But look, its not surprising, he picks loyalists and enablers. I think the thing to remember, though, especially with his comes te comes team, his press team, this is the same team that nowed some to be on the plane because they werent happy with some journalist were saying. So i think it should send a bit of a chill down the spine of the media world, because it sends a bad message to what our freedom of speech might look like in this country. Well, Kellyanne Conway was on morning joe. And heres what she said, she sees her role as. Let me play that. He probably would want my number one priority to be what it has been, which would be a more discreet adviser and somebody who helps him to effectively supports him in his effective connecting and communicating with america. I think nobody is the master of april i cant communicator and connector that he is. Thats how he won his campaign and thats how he became president. When you listen to that, sarah, does that necessarily mean, debt donald be donald, a phrase we heard a lot during the campaign . I think we heard, look, donald trump is clearly always going to be donald trump. And there isnt anyone whos going to prevent him from being who he is, clearly, he does keep his own counsel very close. But i think she has proven adept at appealing to his better angels and saying, okay, if you mean this, if you say it, you know, a slightly different way, youre not changing the content, but you are appealing to a broader and wider audience. And that is very important. And that is the job of an effective staffer, is to let the principle make the policy, but to help him or her more effectively communicate it and, you know, appeal to the widest possible audience, understanding youre not always going to make everyone happy. And she, i think, has proven an ability to help him do that effectively. Meantime, theres been this other back and forth that a lot of people a lot of us have been following, and its between Newt Gingrich and what really the meaning of draining the swamp is, did the president elect mean to use that phrase, does he intend to continue to use that phrase . Lets go back to Newt Gingrich on npr and what he said about that. Im told he now disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesnt want to use it anymore. Maybe he feels as president , as the next president of the United States, that he should be marginally more dignified in talking about alligators and swamps. And then later, gingrich said, he made a big booboo, really quickly, jennifer, wheres that all going . Yeah, maybe trump doesnt use that exact phrase. He often said on the campaign trail, he didnt like the phrase, and he said it kind of reluctantly at some of his rallies and people really responded to it. But he never really liked it. So if he turns away from it, it wouldnt be surprising. But i think hell stick to that same concept about cleaning up government and make radical change. And thats why people elected him. Thanks to you all for being here. Well be right back. See ya next year. This season, start a new tradition. Experience the power of infiniti now, with leases starting at 319 a month. Infiniti. Empower the drive. 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For the third year in a row, pope francis, yes, the same pope francis, who spent his latest 80th birthday with the homeless, bluntly reminded his critics whos in charge. This is how my friend, dave dwyer, put it to me earlier. Pope francis today reminded his election that they elected him to drain the swamp. But the way the pope did it, you probably wouldnt hear an american politician talking this way to congress. Speaking to a room full of cardinals, vaguely the equivalent of a popes cabinet, pope mentioned the maliciousness sprouting from a distorted mind. The pope went on to list 15 specific improvements he expects the cardinals to make, calling them, quote, spiritual ailments that must be addressed. All of this, by the way, in his christmas address. Thats all for tonight. Well be back tomorrow with more mtp daily. Good evening. Im ari melber and we have a big show today. President obama taking concrete action today to block president elect trump from creating a muslim registry. Later, more conflicts of interest facing donald trump. And an update on the story we brought you last night, the evidence trickling out about russia hacking the dnc and then Something Different for the holidays tonight. Comedian chuck nice