>> reporter: has it hit you, what if you were on the other side of the bench with him? how close you guys were? >> i don't want to think about that. i don't want -- i don't want to think about that. >> here in washington the white house is responding to growing outrage over what experts call a russian show trial for wnba super star brittney griner, the administration officials say the president has read the letter from griner, talking about the terror she feels about never being freed from the prison. >> it's a priority for this president, he is doing everything that he can. he takes this to heart. he take this is job very seriously, especially when it comes to bringing home u.s. nationals who are wrongfully detained, it's a priority. we are going to make it happen. >> and we are following a big development in the georgia investigation in to donald trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election. as a fulton county special grand jury hands down the subpoenas to current and former members of president trump's inner circle, including rudy giuliani and senator lindsey graham, all in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election results. we begin this hour in highland park. we have been learning so much more about the victims and families and friends. suffering through the loss. talk to me about what is happening there in the community? >> reporter: yesterday, we saw vigils throughout the community, it's a community in pain. especially as we learn more about the victims. many of the families not have them come home after going to a fourth of july parade. we are talking about catherine goldstein, her family said she was the kindest most gentle person you will meet. before the shooting happening, she was waving at every float. she was happy, and enjoying the parade. people like jackie sonheim, a preschool teacher and a hard worker there each and every day ready to help the community. >> he liked to walk around and liked get out ring out. these are the stories we are hearing more and more of. and of course, there's people that are lost and still in the hospital, who are injured and shot during the shooting and there's the trauma of some people who just went to the parade, people who were fleeing the gunshots. soelg cal wounds as we heard the state attorney mention yesterday. someone by the name of martha who i met yesterday, had grocery bags in her hand. she hesitated going to the grocery store. this is a community that will be dealing with a lot in the days and weeks to come. we know that counciling services are available for members of the community. you will see people grieving for some time here, andrea. >> grieving, grieving for years and years to come if not for their entire lives. >> none of the red flag laws, including the one in illinois, prevented him from getting the weapon because there was never a formal charge, but the police have been to his house, twice? talk to me about the legal situation. >> a couple of things, first off the red flags is only as good as when they are used. when you look at what happened here, a conviction, whether there was a red flag law or not, would have stopped this, so a conviction would have prevented him from buying the weapons in the first place. that is number one, and number two, as far as the red flag goes, even law enforcement or family member needs to use them , in illinois, you can simply petition a judge if you believe that somebody is a threat to themselves or others and that they have those weapons. you can go to a judge and sign a search warrant and grab the guns and get them away from the individual, there's a legal process that can go on from there. this is not something that is indefinite. that's what needs to happen and law enforcement seized, somebody believed he could be a threat, when they looked at, you know, the totality of the circumstances there was nothing to charge him with a crime. in addition, it's not clear, and we are trying get more information about what may have said about a potential threat. if he was not a threat to himself or others, police could not have used the red flag law either. >> tom, thank you so much. to both of you. and madam mayor, first of all, condolences to you, you are the comforter in chief with your community. i have been watching you and what you are doing and i cannot even imagine being in that situation with those people all suffering. tell me, what about the responsibility of the father who signed off on the gun purchase when he was 19? there have been two -- >> that's a great question. that's a great question. and it's one that i asked the illinois state police and they indicated to me that his father sponsored his application for firearms ownership i.d. card when he was under the age of 21. and at the time, there was not the sufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the application. what that says to me is, somebody bares responsibility obviously for this to not have been caught, or the likelihood of his behavior, let's talk about the fact that stronger red flag laws are being put in to place. but, they are only as good as the people around the person, and so, family members, friends who knew he was planning this, who thought it was all a joke, should have said something. and there should have been an opportunity for us to stop this. the fact that it was not stopped, the fact that so many of the shootings are not stopped because they are using legally acquired guns tells me that our laws are not doing their job. they are not protecting us. >> you know, i have been covering the issue for a long time, frankly, since you know, since the 1981 assassination attempt on president reagan and jim brady and the way he suffered for his entire life and it changed ronald reagan's view toward guns. people can change. and i know the president was frustrated when he was signing the compromised gun bill. is there any chance that they, that anything could move on capitol hill? they could go back with chris murphy and others and try again to do something more aggressive on background checks? >> i'm urging everybody who will listen to do more. there's no reason that the united states is the only country in the civilized world that allows this kind of carnage to happen with so much regularity. to allow these guns that were basically designed to be effective in combat to be accessible to people all across the country. we as a city passed an assault weapon's ban and large capacity magazine ban in 2013 in the wake of sandy hook, that represented our values. we felt that we needed to take the stand, we had a brief opportunity from the state of illinois legally to do so and we did. i have been working with the state pretty much ever since. we have been trying to remove any limitations, but let's be clear, we don't need a patchwork. we need a nationwide effort to get rid of these combat weapons. there's no place for these in our society. this has been bourn out now, over and over and over again. i have heard from so many mayors that have gone through the experience. they have sent me the handbook that has been sent to mayors after a mass shooting. what does that say for us? we have a handbook for mass shootings. mitch mcconnell gave a speech on mental health. there's mental health issues in every country in the world, there's not mass shootings on such a regular basis anywhere else, and it has to stop. >> i heard you say that in several of your interviews and frankly i am, you know, i'm grateful to hear you say that. you know, you said that you never thought that you would be one of those mayors. that it can happen anywhere. and you know, your town is as iconic in every town usa as there could be from the movies that have been featured there. you know, "home alone," ferris buehler's day off," we all know highland park and gone to parades as recently as two days ago. as you say, there's mental health problems all over the world, but there's not these kinds of mass shootings. >> i have to tell you, the story that will haunt me for if rest of my life. aiden mccarthy. he was found under his father who was on top of him to protect him from the gun. he was being passed around in an underground garage, nobody could figure out who's child it was, and when i realized nobody was panicking and looking for a baby, there could be one conclusion, i have almost threw up. it was unbelievable this poor little boy came with his parents just to celebrate freedom and now has lost his parents. these stories are week after week after week. it is disgusting to me, that anybody thinks it's an okay way for our country to continue to operate. and we need, those who can make the change to make the change or they need to be fired. they need to be removed from office. we need to run for office and take our country back. i'm sorry, i'm so angry. but i am angry. i'm angry for my community. i'm angry for aiden mccarthy. i'm angry for the kid who next week will be aiden mccarthy. this needs to end. >> and i share that, and i usually am very, very careful about being down the middle on this, on all issues. when i saw that, those interviews about aiden mccarthy, i was going to ask you about the little boy. and kathy goldstein. >> looking for her mom, they were in the basement, hiding for their lives. not only did we have the carnage happen, everyone had to hide for hours because he was on the loose and nobody knew what he was going to be doing next. people were hiding in the basements of gas stations for hours. i kept getting texts because we are all a community. we are all a family. you know, kathy was a band member and i'm a band mom. it's unbelievable. where is kathy's mom, nobody had her, we called every hospital because she had already passed away. katie goldstein was a fabulous human being did not deserve to die this way. all the band parents showed up to cheer the band, when i saw them running down the street, i was like, why are they running down the street? it was incomprehensible that war has broken out on our street. they can't go to the park, they can't go to the store, they can't go to school, i'm a teacher and i looked around my classroom after uvalde and said, what do we do? it's a nonsense way to run a country, we need better from our national leaders, we just do. >> thank you so much. thank you for sharing your pain and your outrage. we all need to hear it. >> thank you. >> and we expect to hear from the state's attorney after the suspect's hearing this hour. we are not going to name the suspect, we are going to talk about the victims and survivors. and new subpoenas, senator lindsey graham, facing subpoenas from a grand jury. >> and former trump white house council r pat cipilloni has agreed to an interview, this is msnbc t cipilloni has agreed to an i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. msnb hree ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price? 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this is not an indicting grand jury, as i understand it, there would have to be a report and a grand jury to follow. this is considered by many legal experts to be one of the most potentially dangerous, legally dangerous of the investigations for the president because of that tape of the president talking so importantly, you know, with brad raffensburgers who has testified. >> these subpoenas do have teeth, they can compel reluctant witnesses to testify under oath. once they testify under oath, that testimony can be used and form the basis of an ultimate indictment, so, these are important subpoenas, and i think that people being subpoenaed really provides some interesting legal challenges, because they are all generally related in that, it seems like they all took part in some way, and in either questioning the results of the presidential election or outright trying to overturn the results of the election. each of them is in a slightly different position. they have different opportunities and different challenges. for example, john eastman, one of donald trump's former lawyers, we know that he went before the january 6th committee and pleaded his 5th amendment right more than 100 times. it's really hard to envision that he will do anything but precisely the same thing before the georgia grand jury. probably he will again, invoke his 5th amendment right against self-incrimination and you have rudy giuliani and jenna ellis, and they may well try to assert attorney client privileges to avoid testifying about certain things. then, if we sort of follow the rudy and jenna trail, they also appeared before the georgia state legislature and testified about things that were debunked claims of election fraud in georgia. there would be no attorney/client privilege attending to that type of information. a lot of opportunities and challenges for the witnesses. >> and they could be immunized after taking the 5th. there's a way for a grand jury to compel testimony. you have a sitting senator, lindsey graham, saying that he will prevail. he knows his way around the courtroom. what about the inclusion of lindsey graham? >> it's interesting, when you look at the levels of kind of closest to former president donald trump, clearly senator graham has been a long-time ally of his. it was notable in that statement that his lawyers put out there that he really under lined the fact that he would be just a witness to this. he was not under scrutiny himself. and i think they will challenge it as much as possible. i would expect probably similar maneuvering by rudy giuliani. they want to make it as hard as possible and we will see if he prevails or not, but certainly another way where you are seeing and hearing that senator graham will get trump run for re-election in 2024. remains very, very close to the former president, and we can see what happens there. >> and what about the political impact that ripples through all of this? you know, you have the grand jury in georgia, georgia has been so critical in every aspect. the senate races, turning the senator majority, the president's loss in 2020, and the january 6th hearing. what about donald trump's role and how it could be affected as he is apparently about to declare that he is running again in '24? does he have less clout with republicans other than his immediate base? >> well, we see the cracks. we are seeing more and more of them walk away. i'm interested in the independent voters. they are sitting out here and they are the key to the elections and 40% of them say they don't know enough about what happened on january 6th to form an opinion. and so, the work that the committee is doing, is so important to continue to talk to these voters about what happened. and you know, you know that independent voters know about all that is left there's moments that shine in for them. i think pat cipollone, the president's personal white house attorney will be another big moment and i think it's absolutely, you know, crucial that the committee get these kind of people out in front of the american public to continue to make the case about what happened to the most important jury of all. which is the american voters. thanks to all of you and growing pressure, supporters of wnba star, brittney griner, turning up the heat on the white house to get her released from jail. al sharpton will join me next. . al sharpton will join me next. the day of the heart attack, i was scared. i didn't know what to do. learning that my daughter had a heart attack really shook me. it brings home how important it is to hold on to the people we love and the things that matter to us. aspirin helps reduce the chance of another heart attack by 31%. your heart isn't just yours. aspirin is not appropriate for everyone, so be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. 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