There is no circumstance whatsoever under which i will bear false witness against the president , nor will i make up lies to ease the pressure on myself. Theres no russian collusion. Theres no wikileaks collaboration. Theres no allegation that i received anything from wikileaks or Julian Assange or anyone else. We have folks who have gather here out of sheer curiosity. Im glad to see this indictment. I believe its a witchhunt and im here because i stand with roger. I expect in the next 60 days youre going to have a fair number of indictments. Fair . A fair number, significant number of indictments. The American Public wants mueller to finish his investigation. Hes been doing for what, almost two years now. Lets find out, put all the facts out there. The latest biggest and perhaps most frightening result of the Government Shutdown now at day 35. How ludicrous it is that this government is shut down over a promise the president of the United States couldnt keep if they come to a reasonable agreement, i would support it. I have other alternatives if i have to, and ill use those alternatives if i have to. One of the ideas suggested is they open it, they pay a prorated down payment for the wall. Do you know what hes talking about, what size down payment hes asking for . I dont know if he knows what hes talking about. Do you . What about prorated . I dont know what that means. Two major stories were following for you this hour. Were waiting to hear from President Trump in the rose garden. And we will have that live when it happens. But we begin with that breaking news from roger stone, indicted in todays Major Development in Robert Muellers investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. His message . Im not guilty and i wont fold. I have made it clear i will not testify against the president. Stone describing himself as one of the president s oldest friends and most fervent supporters. Outside the courthouse for his initial appearance and now released on 250,000 bond. Stone was indicted by mueller and arrested by fbi agents in the Early Morning darkness at his home in Fort Lauderdale, florida. Those agents, by the way, unpaid. Hes charged with seven counts, five counts of false statements, one count of witness tampering, one of obstruction and obstructing an official proceeding. Simply put, stone is accused of lying to congress about his interactions with the Trump Campaign and wikileaks. The Organization Behind the release of thousands of stolen democratic emails during the 2016 campaign. And Robert Mueller has Text Messages and emails to prove it. After a twoyear inquisition, the charges today relate in no way to russian collusion, wikileaks, collaboration, or any other illegal act in connection with the 2016 campaign. I am faltssely accused of makin false statements to the house intelligence committee. That is incorrect. Any error i made in my testimony would be both immaterial and without intent. This morning, at the crack of dawn, 29 fbi agents arrived at my home with 17 vehicles with their lights flashing when they could simply have contacted my attorneys and i would have been more than willing to surrender voluntarily. They terrorized my wife, my dogs. I will plead not guilty to these charges. I will defeat them in court. I believe this is a politically motivated investigation. I am troubled by the political motivations of the prosecutors. And as i have said previously, there is no circumstance whatsoever under which i will bear false witness against the president , nor will i make up lies to ease the pressure on myself. Kind of a wild scene. You can hear all the chanting outside the courthouse. Now, according to the indictment, during the summer of 2016, stone spoke to senior Trump Campaign officials about organization one, presumably wikileaks, and information it might have had that might be damaging to the clinton campaign. Stone was contacted by senior Trump Campaign officials to inquire about future releases by organization one. Also from the indictment, after the july 22nd, 2016 release of stolen dnc emails by organization one, a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging Information Organization one had regarding the clinton campaign. Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by organization one. Now, that completely contradicts what roger stone said on meet the press last may. There is no evidence whatsoever that i had advance knowledge of the content or source of this material. I received nothing from wikileaks or from the russians. I passed nothing on to donald trump or the Trump Campaign. Weve been through this ad nauseam. It is a wild goose chase. Also a person with direct knowledge of the special counsels investigation and todays indictment tells nbc news that the president s former top advisor, steve bannon, is referenced at least twice in this indictment. From President Trump this morning, greatest witchhunt in the history of our country. No collusion. And this from President Trumps personal attorney jay sekulow. The indictment today does not allege russian collusion by roger stone or anyone else. Rather, the indictment focuses on alleged false statements made by mr. Stone to congress. And heres press secretary sarah sanders. My first reaction is real simple. This has nothing to do with the president , and certainly nothing to do with the white house. This is something that has to do solely with that individual and not something that affects us here in this building. One more point about these big stories today and how they tie together. Roger stone is credited, or blamed depending on your perspective, with coming up for the idea for the wall for trump. And now, on the day stone is indicted, were in day 35 of the Government Shutdown over the wall. Were going to have more on that later. But lets go to nbcs Kerry Sanders who is live now from the Federal Court House in Fort Lauderdale where we saw roger stone make an initial court appearance. Im not even sure how you could hear what roger stone had to say with all the shouting except that you were standing right next to him, kerry. Give us the headlines there. Reporter well, as he was standing there, he was being shouted down by a rather large crowd, sort of in unison yelling lock him up, lock him up. It didnt deter him from speaking. He has now left the Federal Court House, as you noted, he bonded out 250,000 bond. Hes likely not headed home, however, because right at this hour there are still federal agents at his house executing a search warrant. As you know, no cameras are allowed inside the federal court room here, so we have the artists rendition of what happened in the courtroom earlier today. And i think as perhaps noticeable and notable as youre looking at this, that roger stone, who is depicted here with his hands in front of him, was wearing shackles. He had his hands in shackles, brought in by the fbi here. The hearing before the magistrate, in a very small courtroom that was packed, the producer who was inside the courtroom says thats the nbc producer says he was respectful. He was direct in responses to the magistrate, and that he has now left the courthouse, after making some comments. When a representative came out and said roger stone would be addressing the public, the media as i said, there was a lot of shouting. Lets listen to a little bit of what he had to say. From nbc news, sir. Did you in any way work with the russians to help President Trump . Categorically not, no, absolutely not. And the prosecutor, the special prosecutor is gathered we have your back, roger. In any way with all due respect, i havent had a chance to read the indictment. You havent read the indictment . Thats correct, i havent. My attorneys have read the indictment. Will you help the prosecutor answer his questions . I will address those questions next week in washington, d. C. Thank you. Reporter you heard roger stone say he hadnt even read the indictment. Its been a whirlwind morning for him, having not read the indictment, but his attorneys, of course, have read the indictment. Its likely now that he is back with his attorneys, going over the developments of today. One of the things in the courtroom that was established is that his movements within the country will be restricted. He can stay in the Southern District of florida, vero beach, down to the keys and he can go into the Washington Area and virginia area. Beyond that his travel is restricted. And as youve noted, chris, he was told by the magistrate here as part of this he may not make contact with any or attempt even to make contact with any witnesses that the Mueller Investigation is focusing on because that would be considered interference. Chris . Kerry, thank you so much for that. And while all of that was going on, we were told that there were negotiations going on to try to break this deadlock that has shutdown the government for 35 days. May be putting a little pressure there was the fact that Laguardia Airport went into a ground stop. There were delays at other airports because of the number of air Traffic Controllers that called out sick. Weve got some breaking news from capitol hill on all of this. Let me bring in Nbcs Kelly Odonnell. I know youre just getting this in, kelly. Whats going on . Reporter okay. So we forecast, a lot is happening. Heres the news. The president will speak at 1 30 p. M. Its known as an open press event. A big invitation for washington reporters to come and hear what the president has to say. Sources tell us its about a way forward on the shutdown. Sources here say after the president speaks, then top leaders, like republican Mitch Mcconnell, the majority leader, would be able to then take the next move. So, thats the news. What we think this would mean is this would be in the category of lawmakers here have been waiting for a signal from the white house about what the president would sign and agree to. Remember, weve been through this before where the president put forward his offers. Senators voted. Neither of the proposals that were brought forward could pass. Back to the white house, then, what would the president support . And so our best indication, using the information weve been gathering today and the kinds of signs we would typically see. It would appear that the president would be willing to make a statement about what he sees as doable here on day 35, with two paychecks missed and now real world consequence like you indicated, to the air traffic and transportation sector. So, if the president says he would support a given measure, then what happens . Then republican leader Mitch Mcconnell can bring it to the floor of the senate. There could be a vote or even whats known as a unanimous consent agreement where senators wouldnt have to vote in person, but they could just affirm it. If that is one of the options. The big question, what about democrats . There has been no direct communication based on our knowledge between Speaker Pelosi and the white house. But the house has passed a number of measures. The house is on a 24hour return rule, meaning the members were sent home to their districts. And if there is an actual vote that would need to take place, they could be recalled to washington to cast that vote. What have democrats been saying in they say they want the white house to agree to reopen the government before they negotiate further on Border Security or border wall spending. So, reopening the government would be the thing Everyone Wants to get behind. The big question is will the president be satisfied with whatever measure they use and there are a lot of different options on how they could do this. Shortterm, couple of weeks, continuing existing funding. What would happen in terms of Border Security . Thats what we dont yet know. But i would say after 35 days, this is a significant, not to be underestimated step, different than the white house speech where the president came out and laid out his plans. This feels like a breakthrough is possible. It will still require the work of a number of other people here on capitol hill. This is big news today. Kelly, lets go to the white house if we can, we may have more information from hans nichols who is there. Obviously as kelly so rightly pointed out, the problem here has been that the president has been in many different places even yesterday when he spoke, it sounded like he might be able to back off from the wall in that same few minutes, then he doubled down on the wall. What do we know about whats going to happen in the rose garden and how this came to be . Reporter well, look, this is an opportunity for the president to clarify his remarks and to let everyone know just what hes willing to do to reopen the government. Either on a short term or longterm basis. I also have to stress this is an opportunity for reporters to ask the president about his longtime associate roger stone being indicted down there in florida. Its quite an intimate setting here at the rose garden so there will be lots of opportunities for reporters to get the president s view, not just on the shutdown, but whats happening with the Mueller Investigation. You can see a fair amount of activity behind me here. People are coming in and out, setting up, trying to get a sense. But with all these things, i dont think we can take anything to be final until we hear it from the president. The wall street journal is reporting hes considering a threeweek temporary opening of the government. Nbc news has not confirmed that. So a fastmoving situation. Chris, well report back when we have more. Hans nichols, thank you so much for that. Again, were keeping our eye on the rose garden. The cameras are being set up there even as we speak. Lets go back, though, to the other story that is developing right now, the indictment of roger stone. In our studio, ive got two former federal prosecutors in the Southern District of new york, jessica roth and mimi rocca. Wow. So, we have roger stone come out, people are shouting lock him up, but he manages to get out. Im one of the president s oldest friends, close confidant. I did not lie, and i will not cooperate with Robert Mueller because to do that i would have to lie. What does the indictment say, mimi, that would lead you to believe otherwise . Chris, first of all, i mean, the fact that hes still claiming he didnt lie or if he did lie it wasnt about material things, is so just belied by this indictment. Mueller does a great job, of course, of spelling out. He said he had no email, no Text Communications with persons one or two. And then he details the actual emails or Text Messages. So, you know, hes contradicted by hard evidence that doesnt lie, cant lie, cant really be questioned. For him to claim this as immaterial, i mean, its so obviously every question, every statement in here is so central to muellers mission to what the senate and congress were trying to get at about coordination. So, again, just completely a false statement right in front of our face about it. To me, there is so much in this indictment. I think its about obstruction, but it also is about collusion. And im actually using the word collusion on purpose and not conspiracy. Because conspiracy is not charged in here, though i think it probably could have been. But it does directly layout facts about collusion between stone and wikileaks, and i think between the campaign and wikileaks through stone. And this is the favorite tweet arguably, jessica, of the president. There was no collusion. In fact, after a pretty long period of not tweeting, last night, overnight, there was no collusion is what he wanted folks to know. His spokespeople reiterated that today. Do you also see potential collusion in this indictment . I think whats extraordinary about this indictment, although there are many things, but one is that this is the missing piece of the puzzle that weve been looking for, for mueller to layout, the connection between the Trump Campaign and wikileaks. It was suspected obviously, but now this indictment lays out precisely how that was happening through roger stone. And so its a very significant piece in terms of establishing those lines of communication. Whether it adds up to a criminal charge based on those communications, as mimi was suggesting, is a different question. But certainly it lays out the facts about those communications. One of the things that a lot of people have looked at so i want to get your take on it was what we read at the top of the show. After the july 22nd, 2016, release of the stolen dnc males by organization one, wikileaks, a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging Information Organization one had regarding the clinton campaign. It would seem that there are a limited number of people who will could direct a senior Campaign Official. Right, absolutely. And the way its