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michael cohen. >> they're drawing a swift and fiery response from the president who claims the move takes the russia investigation to, quote, a whole new level of unfairness. >> he's apparently infuriating mueller is at the root of the raid. >> why don't i just fire mueller? well, i think it's a disgrace what's going on. we'll see what happens. >> i've told him that. you can't fire the special counc counsel. you can't. >> the president also blaming jeff sessions. >> the attorney general made a big mistake when he did this and recused himself or he should have let us know if he was going to recuse himself, and we would have put a different attorney general in. >> this morning the president tweeting attorney/client privilege is dead. a witch hunt. >> we know they got a judge to approve this. that means either there's evidence of a crime somewhere in michael cohen's stuff. or they're concerned that the crime would be obstruction or destruction of evidence. >> this has the makings of what used to be called a wolf trap. michael cohen has brought the president into greater peril. if the president runs toward this risk, he could put his presidency at risk. >> drama unfolding on capitol hill today. facebook's mark zuckerberg beginning two days of highly anticipated testimony before congress. the embattled ceo set to face the music for his company's failure to protect your information. >> this is the seat he'll take as he faces questions from about 44 senators. >> this moment for mark zuckerberg is like high noon. the days of trust me for mark zuckerberg are over. and we're going to have full coverage of the zuckerberg testimony at congress later this afternoon. moving deeper into the president's inner circle as the search warrants on the president's personal lawyer are executed. obtained by federal prosecuters in coordination with the special counsel's office. the searches took place at cohen's hotel room. you can see that on manhattan's upper east side. he's been staying there during renovations on his house. the searches also took place at his offices. the president is furious and stewing over the searches. sources tell nbc news his first tweets of the day unusually short. attorney/client privilege is dead. described by some as a fixer. reportedly attempting to quash unfavorable news stories, the most visible being the stormy daniels case where cohen is accused of paying hush money to silence a woman the president had an extramarital affair with. here's a bit of how kocohen tald about trump on the campaign trail. >> he's not a politician. he's a successful businessman. he's a problem solver. that's why he's leading the polls. >> there's a better than likely chance trump may meet with putin when he comes here for the u.n. people want to meet mr. trump. >> i know mr. trump. i've stood by him should tore shoulder for the past decade. i've seen him in action. i know when he wants something. there's nothing that will stop him from achieving his goal. >> the words the media should use to describe mr. trump are generous, compassionate, principles, empathetic, kind, humble, honest, and genuine. >> a report saying mueller's investigation has been drip, drip, drip. this was a giant leap forward. a personal hit. they were moving in inches. today they moved a mile. joining me now a reporter tom winter and former democratic congresswoman from new york that voted to impeach president nixon, liz holtsman. how did this come to pass? there may be viewers unclear about what this has to do with robert mueller's investigation. >> the way we understand it based on people we've talked to is this case, and if it's the heart of the search we've been told has to do with a possible payment to stormy daniels. so the bulk of this case is obviously that's outside the per view of robert mueller's office which is to look into russian interference in the election and anything tied to. we understand this was a coordinated effort. this is the second known instance where mueller's office said to a federal prosecuter's office in manhattan because that's where mr. cohen's business is and his home. in this situation he coordinated with them and referred this case to them and said this is outside of my purview, but there might be a viable prosecution here. let's coordinate on this. you file the search warrant. you execute the search warrant and we'll stay in communication throughout the process. the other known instance involving former campaign chairman paul manafort, same thing. this is a little bit outside. purview. you look at it but let's stay in touch. you might find something that might be interesting to me if i'm robert mueller. might be interesting to the russia component of the investigation, or it might be of interest to me in some of the other things i'm pursuing. >> liz, how does the law view that? if they say you investigate this, but if you find anything interesting to me, let me know. is that legal? is that under the laws of how you get information legal? >> i think so. mueller himself can't do that investigation because she's restricted in -- he's restricted in terms of his jurisdiction. the important thing to heb here is the u.s. attorney who decided to go forward with this search warrant was appointed and interviewed by donald trump himself and appointed by jeff sessions who is a republican appointee by the president of the united states. in addition, the fbi now is being run by another donald trump appointee. because we've talking about the president's lawyer, i am sure that the southern district of new york which is probably the most highly respected u.s. attorney's office in the country went over this with a fine tooth comb to make sure that the evidence was solid and not just borderline but really solid. also you have a federal magistrate reviewing this. the fbi can't just break into your home if you're a lawyer and look for your documents. this was scrutinized carefully by a federal judge. there must be substantial evidence and likelihood of criminality here. >> tom, interesting language the president has been using not just in the tweets today but yesterday. he tweeted that it's an attack on our country in a true sense. it's an attack on all -- on what we all stand for. he also accused them of breaking in. in fact, from a legal perspective, this wasn't breaking in. they sought and received a warrant to enter where michael cohen lives and where he works. >> well, based on the reporting we've done, this is a lawful search warrant. the constitution protects the government's ability to say you can go to a judge, establish probable cause for the search and then in that instance you can enter somebody's property and conduct a search for law enforcement purposes. we have laws. the laws are designed to be enforced and prevent criminal wrong doing. so this is something that not only is lawful, it's part of the tenets of our constitution and the way the country was constructed. >> painting the picture of the donald trump followers, the corrupt fbi and the corrupt mueller investigation broke in to my personal lawyer's office is colorful? >> yeah. it's colorful, but it's not true. also the attorney/client privilege isn't dead. it can be broken ben the attorney and the client conspire in criminality. the criminality could involve the president. >> because i know there will be lots of people tweeting and talking about the fact that there's attorney/client privilege, they had no right. if the allegation is they are con firing or involved in the same alleged crime, that is legal? >> correct. >> lou dobbs put out a poll s saying is it time for mueller and sessions and others to be fired? i want you to put another hat on, a member of congress. at some juncture the spineless members of congress who have not done anything on this, the republican members of congress on that house intel committee came up with a document that isn't worth using as kindling. at some point congress is going to have to step in. this might be the point. >> well, if the president fires mueller, and fires sessions, and fires basically the whole justice department apparatus, he might as well fire ray too. i think the country will be outraged. they'll force congress to act. there's no way he can take down the justice department's apparatus. they're operating according to law. judges are supervising what's happening. the attack on our country is not being made by the justice department and mueller and the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district. it's being made by donald trump. >> you were there during water gate. what was the tipping point for members of congress? >> the saturday night massacre. when the president of the united states basically said you got to do -- you got to fire the special prosecuter and then the justice department said -- it was a triggering event. the american people said no, we're not a banana republic. the president is not above the rule of law. >> will congress do that this time? the president publicly mused now about firing robert mueller. thanks so both of you. all right. breaking news now as the administration works to respond to the latest chemical attack by syrian president bashar al assad on his own people, the president's homeland security adviser is out. tom bossert has been an advocate for the national security efforts talking as recently as sunday about the u.s. role in syria. he was involved in many high level national security meetings since the president took office. in a statement sara sanders says the president is grateful for tom's commitment to safety and security of our country. thanking him for his service and wishing him now. joining me now peter alexander is live at the white house. peter, the gnomnomen nomenclatus that he resigned. the other side is that his staff was caught unaware of this leading us to wonder whether he was resigned or asked to resign. >> reporter: well, more specifically about out and about around town. he was at a conference in georgia where he was speaking to current and former intelligence officials of the united states government, and a source close to bossert says he provided no indication that he would be resigning. said he had no intent to resign according to this source it's all about a, quote, new team. that new team appears to be a reference to the new national security adviser john bolton. yesterday was his first full day working on behalf of president trump. this appears to be the clearest sign yet that bolten is looking to bring in his own folks, to create his own team besides the president. we can tell you based on my conversations with folks within the west wing that bossert had at times clashed with the chief of staff john kelly. unclear whether that had anything to do with this. he did report to the chief of staff, john kelly directly. my colleague at cnbc got back an interesting exchange. he reached out to a white house official and said bossert was viewed as one of the most effective communicators on cyber security and counterterrorism efforts and on the relief efforts in the wake of the hurricanes that hit texas, florida, and puerto rico. this individual shot back attacks that basically said that was likely the problem. so for now we know that tom bossert will be leaving. when exactly that takes place at this point, not entirely clear. >> all right. thank you very much for your reporting, peter alexander. at the white house, we're counting down the hours now just after 2 p.m. eastern time mark zuckerberg makes his debut in the capitol hill hot seat. he's set for a grilling about facebook's role in the 2016 election and how the company played right into the hands of russians. next, we're breaking down the many accusations against facebook and how you might have been involved. you're watching velshi and ruhle on ms nbc. but what a powerful life lesson. and don't worry i have everything handled. i already spoke to our 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p.m. this afternoon. tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., more questions from the house, energy and commerce committee. you'll see both of the testimonies live here. i want to go through a quick look at the accusations against the social media giant. the personal information of 87 million facebook users was exposed. facebook allowed cambridge analytica to harvest that data. that's the company that not only hired -- was hired by president trump's campaign during the 2016 election but this is important. the company itself was financed by people associated with mr. trump's campaign. it's not a random third party company. facebook waited three years to disclose this breach. only after the cambridge analytica story broke by journalists did facebook fess up. also 126 million users were exposed to russian-back accounts, fake news. millions of facebook users were exposed to voter influence. facebook sold $100,000 in ads to russians that influenced the 2016 election likely in favor of mr. trump. joining me now is reid hunt, a ceo of popular.vote and bradley tusk, a regulatoried a vie or the for tech companies. welcome to both of you. thank you for being here. reid, as a former fcc chairman, the big question on everybody's mind here is what an outcome looks like. what success looks like. and to many americans and many people around the world, success looks like some sort of regulation on facebook, and then it gets treated like a content company as opposed to a utility or platform. in your mind, is that a good outcome? >> if this were a movie, zuckerberg would be playing the role of a million ways to say i'm sorry. you put your finger on it. the question citizens should ask is congress where have you been? europe has gone ahead and laid out a pretty good framework called the general data protection rules, and the united states for all this century hasn't seen any action from congress that is really meaningful. we have no expert agency with analytical tools and with an ability to issue rules. it's time for congress to act. i know that mr. zuckerberg won't be able to question them, but we citizens can say what are you going to do? >> bradley, the best analog may be the financial industry. right? we know that in the great recession we realize that our regulators were well outgunned. the big money went to the companies that found ways around regulation, and generally the public feels we want banks and financial industries to do well and flourish. but at the same time we need certain protections. >> yep. >> when reed talks about what the europeans have done, is there a way of regulating companies like facebook that don't ruin their essential essence? >> sure. the first part is just people recognizing that facebook is and what it isn't. it's a great service product that helps a lot of people connect. but they make their money on harvesting your data and commercializing it. and that's okay as long as people understand this is what i'm consenting to when i choose to go on facebook. and the a value proposition of what facebook is and isn't hasn't been made clear to consumers. the europeans have gone further to help consumers understand the distinction. there's nothing wrong with saying these are privacy regulations. facebook has to live within the structures. within that, if they can monetize the data, all the more power to them. >> reed, just to really underscore a point. i don't mean this the way i'm going to say it, but are people just not stupid? if we put all this stuff out there into some digital place, it's not in your bedroom. it's on a digital platform, and then you get shocked that somebody used that information? >> so google and facebook are really, really important companies. they're the common media for publishing all kinds of information, and particularly information that each one of us may want to disclose to others. we should not be denied the ability as citizens to use google and facebook. we should be assured instead by a sensible law passed by congress that the way we use it is going to be honored by facebook and by google and by all the other companies that gather data. there are lots of companies that gather data. in 2011 there was bipartisan legislation introduced by senators mccain and kerry. it should have been passed. it was endorsed by some but sot all the tech industry. this is a right of passage for the whole tech industry. time to get behind sensible laws that give protection to everyone and let us use these common media. >> bradley, one of the things somebody pointed out to stephanie and me yesterday is that while we have a certain particular issue with facebook and how it was involved in the election, for a lot of people around the world, particularly in countries that do not have warrant guaranteed press freedoms and freedom of speech, facebook is a more important tool to them. it allows them to get and send information that their government typically wouldn't allow them to do. so he was concerned that we don't overdo it. >> absolutely. or think about the arab spring in twitter. none of that would have happened without the platform. we don't want to deny people the right to use facebook, google or thousands of other business startups that monetize your data in some way. we want to give people enough information to make intelligent decisions and the ability to get out. right now it's very hard to delete a facebook account. it's hard to delete a linkedin account. making it easier for people to say i no longer want to be part of this thing and not making it impossible. have you ever tried to cancel cable service? get hbo, you want to cancel it, you have to call, and someone tries to talk you out of it for 45 minutes. facebook has to stop doing that kind of thing. >> is there a model for regulation that would allow the free internet to flourish and contain some of this? is there a model that we could look at? do we look at the european model or should there be a built in model? i'm afraid this morning in some of the testimony a lot of it will be grand standing and things for tv commercials. when we get down to the meat of it, what should legislators be looking at on their side? >> so if you let me go back to the last century, the telephone industry always had the ability to know a great deal about everybody. everybody who phoned or phoned you. there were federal regulations about the use of that data by the telephone companies. they could use yellow pages as a way to wrap advertising around some of that data, but they were restricted when it came to disclosing that personal information to others. it's around ancient model but it's not a bad model. one more thing, you mentioned europe. you mentioned other countries. the idea here needs to be a global idea. our law in the united states, the law in europe, and the law we need to make sure applies in china, it ought to be very, very similar. >> what a great conversation. i appreciate you this context ahead of some very, very important testimony this afternoon. reed hunt is a former fcc chairman and the ceo of coalition for green capital. bradley tusk is with tusk ventures, the ceo of that company. thank you. we're live at the white house for more on the historic moment. the president's attorney is now under criminal investigation and the president is calling it a witch hunt. we're breaking down what trump is saying about the fbi raid on michael cohen's offices and his home. and much of it is false. my day starts well before i'm in the kitchen. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. i need to shave my a1c i'm always on call. an insulin that fits my schedule is key. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ (announcer) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don't use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don't share needles or insulin pens. don't reuse needles. the most common side effect is low 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♪ welcome back. here are the top stories right now. china's president has promised to cut auto tariffs and improve laws to protect intellectual property. that's a move that eased global fears of a trade war. he said the government would address opening up china's banking industry. another major priority. they announced retaliatory raid treasures against each other. the markets responded positively. here's a live look at the dow up more than 2% right now. specifically on this news. i want to get back to the big story. shortly after news of the fbi raid on michael cohen's office broke, the president gave candid remarks with military leaders. for fact's sake, his comments weren't exactly accurate. listen to this. >> i just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man. >> all right. by all accounts agents did not break into cohen's office or hotel room or residence. instead, they obtained a search warrant meaning they were able to show a federal judge probable cause. then there's this. >> they found no collusion whatsoever with russia. the reason they found it is there was no collusion at all. no collusion. this is the most bias group of people. these people have the biggest conflicts of interest i've ever seen. >> the president is likely referring to the house intelligence committee majority report. but democrats on the committee disagree with the findings saying not all the witnesses who were needed were called to appear. and republicans on the senate intelligence committee still consider the issue open. all right. now fact check number three. >> democrats all, or just about all, either democrats or a couple of republicans that worked for president obama, they're not looking at the other side. >> okay. members of mueller's team donated to democrats in the past, but so did donald trump. and by the way, so did jared kushner, and many others in the trump white house. but this search was run by the southern district of new york. not mueller's team, and who's in the u.s. attorney's office in man hat snn a trump-appointed lawyer who donated to the trump campaign, and finally there's this. >> the other side is where there are crimes. and those crimes are obvious. lies under oath, all over the place. e-mails that are knocked out that are acid washed and deleted. nobody has ever seen 33,000 e-mails are deleted after getting a subpoena for congress. and nobody bothers looking at that. >> well, actually, that's not true either. the fbi did look into it. then fbi director james comey also a republican if that matters, found that no reasonable prosecuter would bring charges against hillary clinton in that case. joining me now is jeff bennett, live at the white house. jeff? >> reporter: i think there's one thing in particular about the white house response so far that is notable. given that the president yesterday would not rule out getting rid of robert mueller. in the past the white house has been quick to dismiss any talk of firing mueller. they usually put out statements saying that out of respect for the special counsel's work, it pledges its full cooperation and doesn't respond. this time, sanders says the president's comments stand on their own. keep in mind the state of play here. it's important. president trump's lawyer being raided by the fbi. his former national security adviser, michael flynn, pleaded guilty. paul manafort, the former campaign chairman has now been indicted. jared kushner, the president's son-in-law is facing a certain kind of scrutiny and now the president is the subject of a federal investigation. this is the broader backdrop as the president considers voluntarily agreeing to an interview with robert mueller to say nothing about the ongoing considerations happening now at the white house of military action in syria. >> all right. jeff, we are still working off of a deadline that the president and sarah huckabee sanders imposed yesterday saying they're making a decision on syria within the next 24 to 48 hours. we're at the 24-hour mark. is there any talk in the white house? i assume they're not loose lipped about that sort of thing but about action on syria? >> yeah. it's hard to get clarity from white house officials on this issue. we expect to hear from the president in the next half hour. he they'll bring in the white house pool of reporters. you can imagine questions about mueller and syria at the top of the list. >> jeff bennett for us at the white house. we'll keep a close eye on the white house throughout day and on the syria developments. in less than three hours mark zuckerberg is going to face the senate judiciary and commerce committees. we'll talk to someone grilling zuckerberg today. and a federal judge sided with former students of trump university. they'll get a settlement after winning the class action case which claimed the university was a fraud. our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality 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stream of conscious thinking about syria. we heard him say we're going to take troops out. we heard him say no we're going to redouble our efforts, and we have not seen a coherent syria strategy. and i think that there's a need for that in the larger context but certainly a chemical attack is so reprehensible, and if it's a measured response, i would stand by it. >> senator, you're going to be in the hearings this afternoon will mark zuckerberg will be testifying, and i've been having discussions all morning about what success looks like here. i think the country is aware that facebook has not handled our information as well as we would have liked them to. i think the country is also aware there are good things about facebook, and it is sort of revolutionized our internet experience. what are you looking to achieve out of the hearings? >> well, i think about the fact that you and i have talked a number of times about other breaches of consumer's private information. equifax, we had a long discussion about that. for me, this is about people being able to trust that their information is being safeguarded the way they expect. notification if their private information is not, and we have not seen transparency. we have not seen notification, and this is serious in terms of the ability of a consumer to trust, but we also have to look at this in the largest context of russian interference with our democracy. and the tool they chose was facebook, twitter, et cetera. one of the things that i'm going to be focussed on this afternoon is why cambridge analytica isn't also going to be at the table. with ek question fax -- equifax, they don't know who breached the data. with facebook we do. there's going to be, i assume some representations made by mr. zuckerberg that he's made already in the media that they asked for destruction of the records that were shared, and they also don't know whether that was complied with or what cambridge analytica did with that information. we need answers to that, too. >> what -- does it go further than sort of acknowledgments and truth and getting chastised? is there a role for government here? is -- should there be some discussion about what good regulation of facebook could possible look like? is that a road you want to go down? >> yeah. let me just, again, put it in context. we do not yet have a national standard when people's personal information is breached, hacked, or shared. and so it happens in a very haphazard manner that people are notified and given any sort of recourse. it depends on state laws that are patch work quilt. that's a concern i have regardless of where the breech or sharing of private information occurred. but i think also given the role that social media has played in our democracy, we have to be concerned how does facebook know when they're accepting advertising whether that's coming from a foreign adversary or from the u.s., and what can we be assured they'll do in the future to protect us from outside interference in our democracy? promises are one thing. but i don't feel like we have any clear solution in line and in place before the 2018 midterms. >> do you come down on one side or the other very clearly about facebook saying it's basically a utility and can't be regulated in the way that we are as a content generating machine or media company. is there some sense you have of a good way to regulate them that doesn't stifle the good stuff that facebook is, the great stuff that digital media is but deals with the concerns you have, and that is political interference by bad partys? >> well, political interference, sewing division even outside of the electoral context. in wisconsin facebook was used as a tool to get some very divisive messages out, stoking up fear and racism, and so we have to be concerned about those things. not just in the electoral context, but in a broader context. and i do think in terms of the electoral context that facebook's -- at least assertions they're willing to look at making sure that any political advertising is acknowledged as such, but that might have to be a rule not just something that they do voluntarily. >> and i assume that's going to come up. that's going to be a question asked of facebook, because their position is very clear. that you can't -- you'd be making a mistake to think of facebook as a media company, as a content company. they're there as a platform for people to use. they love free speech. they love opinions. they love discourt and discussion. >> i think it will come up as a topic. when you find out that certain, say, age demographics in our country get almost all their information through digital sources, their news and information, that is an issue. many of them will only see what you have to say over a digital format. >> i look forward to watching this in great detail this afternoon. i think this is going to be -- no offense. we don't always watch all congressional testimony, but i think the nation's eyes are going to be peeled on this one. senator, always a pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you. >> 20 members of congress pulled facebook stock. starting today, i want to take a look at the democratic congressman, sits on the house energy and commerce committee. he has at least 80$,000 invested in facebook through various trust funds. and also curt schrader has at least $15,000 invested in facebook. sheldon white house has more than $30,000 invested if facebook. here are the top three congressional facebook investors not on the committee. michael mcyn caul. he reported a little over a $30,000 gains through his wife and child. nancy pelosi of california comes in second. she holds at least half a million in facebook stock through her husband, and brad schneider has at least 200,000. we want to know what you think about this. i'm unclear about what i think about that. lots of people hold facebook stocks. should law clerks have to sell their shares before they address the 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