involve i involving -- >> the best part about it is they're now being believed. they're now being believed. that's big. that's big. >> a massive data breach at uber. the company got hacked. then they paid off the hackers to cover it up. and now everybody knows about it anyway. >> and no one tells anyone. you have to disclose this to the government and to your customers. they didn't. >> what's worse is that this hack took place in october of 2016. more than a year ago. >> we begin with this. the president of the united states of america defending an accused child molester. we, of course rain shower are talking about roy moore. >> less than three weeks now from alabama's special senate election, president trump after having said this is up to the alabama voters appeared to endorse roy moore. take a look. >> mr. president, is an accused child molester better than a democrat? >> well, he denies it. look, he denies it. i mean, if you look at what is really going on and you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen. you know, you have to listen to him also. i can tell you one thing for sure. we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. i've looked at his record. it's terrible on crime. it's terrible on the border. it's terrible on the military. >> but what about the women? what about the nine women? >> by the way, it's a total denial. and i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races and this has never come up. 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters. most of them are trump voters. all you can do is you have to do what you have to do. he totally denies it. >> a whole lot of crazy going on there. the women are trump voters. i don't know what that part means. but the president has moved from saying this is a decision for the people of alabama which is a big break from establishment republicans into saying you've got to -- he says he didn't do it. he is up against people in his own party. >> can i say one thing though? he said multiple things of it was a long time ago. what was a long time ago? if nothing happened, then there wasn't anything. and it doesn't matter if it happened four weeks, four days, four years. we're not necessarily saying this person should go to jail. but should this person be elected into office to represent the state of alabama? and i have to say, the president said he's looked at doug jones' record. did he? or is he looking at democratic talking points? >> he was taken out of his seat as a judge twice. >> and doug jones went after the ku klux klan. >> even ivanka trump said last week there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. i have no reason to doubt the victims' accounts. roy moore, however, continues to dig in. last night he denied the allegations again. >> did you ever date or go out with underage women? >> no. no. >> have you ever engaged in any sexual misconduct with any person? >> no. it's against the law and it would be wrong. >> now, when ali said again, we do have a frame it's been over a week and when roy moore did that interview with sean hannity, almost an entire week ago, he did not clearly deny it. it was a whole lot of confusing to the point that initially after that interview, sean hannity said clear this up. you've got 24 hours to clear this up. to state that this man has been denying it and denying it from the beginning, not exactly true. moore revealed he is considering taking legal action against his accusers saying, quote, we are getting proof. he wouldn't say what that proof is. trump said he was going to go after his accusers and there's no evidence he's done that. but his accusers have stood by their stories. moore's democratic opponent doug jones says he believes the women like ivanka does. and isn't concerned about trump's endorsement of moore. >> i'm going to let the people of alabama make that decision. i feel like my record speaks for itself. >> do you believe roy moore was -- >> i believe the women. i think that answers the question. i believe their stories have credibility and i believe them. >> okay. joining us now via skype is investigative reporter for reckon for al.com who has been writing about this. anna, good to see you. what the president did yesterday was not some small matter. it really was a shift in the official approach he's taken. sarah huckabee sanders had said earlier that alabama doesn't need a liberal. kellyanne conway chimed in on this. now we hear the president being asked a specific question by kristen welker it's better to have someone accused of sexual misconduct than a democrat in the seat. i thought that was pretty ama amazing. >> yeah. honestly, that is something that i have heard from some folks here in alabama too. i mean, really whether president trump supports moore or not i think is necessarily a question for the people who are on the fence right now about whether they're going to vote for him. the question of whether they want a democrat as our representative is something that weighs heavily on them. you talk about who's going to vote on supreme court justices. who's going to vote on a lot of things that alabamians care about. and so when he says that, i mean, i think he's echoing what a lot of conservatives down here are concerned about. >> ali, that's what's stunning to me. the point that lots of local people, it won't affect those on the fence how the president feels. so i ask you -- >> i find that very interesting. because he had gotten away with saying this is for the people of alabama. and then he stopped in front of those reporters on the way to his helicopter to go to mar-a-lago and decided he would chime in on this. i don't know whether this was off the cuff or whether this is something he'd been talking to bannan about. but it was strange to hear the president do it. he also said that moore's opponent doug jones, he mentioned he's a liberal, he's soft on crime, he's soft on the border. i assume you guys at al.com reports that's not the case. he's a u.s. attorney. successfully prosecuted two members of the kkk for the 1963 church bombing that killed four black girls. he led the prosecution for the man convicted of the bombing of the "lockuolympic games in 1996. >> sounds pretty tough. >> does doug jones have a problem with being soft on crime? >> i mean, the prosecuting the church bombers is what he's best known for here. i don't think his crime record is what gives some conservative pause down here. it's really his pro-choice stance. when i talk to people who are on the fence, maybe they are not roy moore fans, but it's very difficult for people who hold their faith very important to them to vote for somebody that they see is in favor of women having the right to kill unborn children is how they see it. so a lot of them have said to me, i'm looking at a choice between a man who might be somebody who molests children and a man who thinks it's okay to beat unborn babies. >> isn't that the stunning part though? someone who is a predator who goes after children but let's vote for him because we want to save the lives of babies. it seems bizarre to me. i want to ask you, though, about the future, about the young people of alabama. it sounds out that the head of the young republicans the state of alabama has said she cannot support roy moore. this is a matter of ethics, not politics. talk to us about the future generation. how do young people from your state feel? >> young people have been overwhelmingly even younger republicans in the polls have been supporting jones. and now the -- like you said, the head of the young republicans here in alabama has come out saying that they -- she cannot in good conscience vote for moore. there have been groups of young republicans elsewhere in the state who have made it a point to say they will be supporting moore. it's a bit of a mixed bag, but i believe jones does tend to be doing better among the younger folks here in alabama. >> going to be a story of voter turnout. >> it is absolutely going to be a story of voter turnout. which is why the polls have seen jones ahead don't count the way they do in elections. turnout tends to be small. in this case republicans who really get mad at roy moore may just stay home. so it's unclear how this will go. >> i also wonder if phone polls, you know, affect young people. think about all the young people that don't have home phones. >> anna claire is a reporting for the birmingham news reckon in alabama and al.com. thank you. >> thank you. all right. now to breaking news. rescue teams are searching for three crew members missing after their u.s. navy aircraft crashed off the coast of japan. this navy plane went down just south of okinawa while on its way to meet up with the uss ronald reagan aircraft carrier. >> president trump tweeting his support for the search efforts writing in part, quote, we are monitoring the situation. prayers for all involved. this is file video of the type of aircraft involved. 11 people were on board at the time of the crash. 8 found alive. the navy says they're in good condition. stand by. we're hearing about three more women with sexual allegations against charlie rose. also we spoke with one of rose's accusers. you'll never believe what movie he had rolling in his apartment when she stopped by. >> and the president and first lady woke up this morning at their resort in palm beach, florida, and will spend the holiday weekend there. remember this. out of his 306 days in office thus far, trump has spent 99 days at his properties. that's a lot. guess what else he did when he woke up? 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i think i probably said something along those lines, tried to change the subject. i think i basically said something along the lines, okay, i need to go back. i think i was like, do you want me to take anything back to the office for you. you know, do my -- just be an intern and just keep it professional. i think i'm going to go. anything else you want me to do, like i usually would say. we're all trying to impress and do our best job or get ahead in the world. and, you know, just want to get that job or whatever. someone in a position of power making you feel -- i did respect mr. rose and feel like he was a true journalist, but it's unfortunate what happened. i'm conflicted. i don't know if it's my place to judge someone. i think he's probably troubled. and i have empathy for people that are troubled. you know, i think we all have issues. but i don't -- yeah, i don't think someone like that deserves to have a position like that if they're going to abuse their power in any way. i think i had that thought in the back of my mind. maybe did i put that vibe out? i think we have that issue, especially as younger women. like, oh, did i -- is it something i wore? i did have that. am i putting out the wrong energy? am i not professional? i did have that thought in my back of my mind. am i too friendly? it's a lesson i learned. you don't really know anybody until you know them. so it's like the lesson i took from it and moved on. >> wow. so the number of things she said there, what's happening here, trying to change the subject, normalize it and say i got to go back to the office anything i can take. did i put out that vibe. and through it all, i have to say, credit this young woman. one of her final thoughts was empathy. she said i guess there's stuff that's wrong with all of us. but it legitimatizes her -- what we heard from her, we've heard from so many people. >> but it speaks to how conflicted she was. he's an established man and he is and she was put in a wildly difficult position. because that was they are dream job. >> yeah. more women have come out about this. stephanie gosk has been following this for us. that woman put it in perspective for many women. but certainly for men to say you could be having a conversation with someone and the turmoil going through their heads about trying to interpret what it is as a man in power you've just said or done or caused them to do is remarkable. >> well, certainly. i think everyone can relate whether you're a man or a woman, to that position that she was in. in her mid-20s, she's an intern. in an industry she thinks she wants to get into as a profession. and bringing mail to a guy that was at the pinnacle of that profession. she said she was trying to get the conversation back to something professional. just that notion alone that the intern was trying to bring the conversation back to something. >> not a job an intern should have to do. >> yeah. >> the thing is, it's not something young men can connect to. because when you have opportunities to really connect with senior management is when you have those personal moments. is when you're not just talking about the nuts and bolts and the numbers of work. it's when you're out of the office. when a woman is put in a position when her out of office time is in their apartment on a soft couch watching a movie like "the secretary," that is not a position we see young men in. certainly not. >> we have to get to a point, i think, where we draw very distinct lines on what's appropriate and what's inappropriate. and in that moment for that woman to realize something inappropriate happened to her to then have somewhere where she can go. but also to have those lines drawn so that moment for the person in charlie rose's case allegedly to know that that's not appropriate with an intern. it's not appropriate with any colleague. >> but we don't want to take human interaction and involvement out. i want you to come to my house for dinner. i want our team to feel welcome. but it's so important that we recognize situations like that because when someone is in a position of power like a charlie rose, like a mark halperin, a number of these people, there needs to be real boundaries and lines. and when companies don't draw those, it's so concerning that young women are there saying was it me, what did i put out there. what did she put out there? eagerness and enthusiasm to get the job done. >> one of the things that is sadly seems to be a reaction to all of this is men in executive positions across industries saying they are as a result going to limit the amount of time they spend with young women so that they aren't accused of anything and nothing happens. but think about what that means. that means as you said, young women who need to have that interaction for their careers to move forward might not get those opportunities. maybe it's a business trip somewhere. >> so a young man, if i know it's safer to take a young man on that business trip than a young woman, that young woman suffers just by virtue of that. so it's not the right answer to have walls that are impenetrable. >> it's business culture. six years ago when i was at deutsche bank, the chairman of the entire bank came for the first senior womens managing directors summit. on the stage he said, listen. it's difficult for me to consider when i go on all my travels for a chief of staff or my lieutenant to be a woman. if we were in brazil, what would people assume? we're dancing? we're going out at night cocktailing? all of us sat in that room crest fall fallen. women who worked for decades in hopes of running divisions of the bank and he says how am i going to bring a woman to bra sil. what if we dance together. what? >> stephanie, you spoke to one of the reporters who came out with this story. lots of men corroborated the story. zero men went on the record to corroborate it. >> they really spent -- she said weeks on this report. this does not happen overnight. a lot of it included reaching out to people to corroborate the accusers' accounts. a lot of those people were men, employees and former employees. some of them did corroborate the stories. none of them would go on the record and none of them wanted their names publicized and there wasn't much of a discussion about why. we also talked a bit about why the women remained anonymous too. >> let me just double check. so the organizations that fired rose, bloomberg, pbs, and cbs are all run by men? none went on the record. >> yeah. as the tleef of us discussed yesterday and we will discuss tomorrow and on an ongoing basis, this is as much a man problem as it is a woman problem. we're going have to solve this together and it's going to need cultural change. it's not just videos that hr shows you and lines they draw. >> and clearly there is still a fear of repercussion whether you're a man or woman. but potentially the image of whatever organization you work for. >> stephanie, thank you for your reporting on that. stephanie gosk. >> if the phrase man up is in a dictionary, time to change the definition. uber finally comes clean about measures to conceal a massive data breach. it paid hackers to delete information on 57 million people and to keep the breach quiet. up next, was the coverup worse than the crime? stay with us. you're "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. thanks for the ride-along, captain! i've never been in one of these before, even though geico has been- ohhh. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying? 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because we know now they're going to be subject in a lot of states to fines. sure, they could pay it. they're valued at 50 million bucks. >> i think you look at the negative view of what this has on uber. 2016 they were getting hit hard. probably wasn't a good time for them to release this information. and that's not good. there's legitimate ways of exposing, you know, bugs and security exposures and paying good hackers for those. a company employs hackers, people on the good side who are going to do this. we see companies trying to make a proactive approach. you have to disclose it. we do need new regulations on these companies that don't expose when consumer information is stolen. it's not their information. it's ours. it's not theirs. >> that's why when people are mad at equifax. it's not just because it was stolen. just do the right thing. it's 2017. we don't want you to lose our information, but we get it happens. let us be mad at you for one thing, not the three things that follow it. david kennedy founder and ceo of truster hack. >> the board -- they changed some board seats but there are a lot of board members who were on the uber board then who are on the board now. travis, he's not far away. he wants to come back. this is going to make that hurdle higher. >> one of the problems is that a lot of these companies that had ransom ware have been told you can't go to the fbi. you have to pay the money. >> fine. but call the fbi, pay the money, and have it cleared. >> tell us. stand by, everybody. the longest serving member of congress facing a second accuser this morning. looking into his use of tax dollars to bury sexual harassment claims. coming up next, we'll talk with an editor from conyers' hometown paper that says he must resign. you're watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. are you on medicare? 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it expires after the 30-day period, but if you do settle, chances are you will have to sign a nondisclosure agreement. but let's say you want to continue after mediation, you are required to take a cooling off period of 30 days before you can even go on. what are you going to tell your coworkers then? >> you have 180 day time period in which you have to do it, but once you've committed to all of this, then you have to take the cooling off period. >> how are you going to continue your job after that 30 days and function in a normal way? and in that period, you could still be working in the same office as the person you're accusing. talk about awkward. after 30 days are up, you have two options. either have an administrative hearing to force a resolution or file in federal district court. interns are not offered these same protections. and interns are often the victims. why? they're the weakest. they're the youngest. they're the most junior. that's who predators target. let's say a settlement is made. the person accused, well, they pay for all legal costs, right? >> nope. >> wrong! the payment is paid by the treasury department. your tax dollars which is stunning. there is a special fund used to make these payments and they just don't cover sexual harassment. they also cover things like racial discrimination. the amount spent so far reaches in the multi-millions. >> you did this the other day and it's one of those things we have to keep on doing. just to look at that screen, i don't know if don can put that back up. it doesn't even need conversation. just look at that. that's what you have to do if you want to report sexual harassment on capitol hill. is it a wonder that people don't do this? >> we say all the time if you don't feel comfortable going to the agency, the human resources department, what you need to do is get an employment lawyer. you expect a young person to get an employment lawyer? do you know how much lawyers cost an hour? hundreds sometimes thousands of dollars. joining us now, detroit free press editor steven henderson. >> steven, good to see you. the detroit free press has taken this very seriously in the call for john conyers to step down. you recognize the way in which it's difficult to do that because of john conyers' long history during the civil rights movement. as really a local hero on several fronts. and yet you've still come to the same conclusion. >> yeah. i think our major problem here is the way in which these allegations were handled. not to minimize the allegations themselves or the specter of sexual harassment in congress. but when you look at this deal that was cut by which the staffer was rehired for essentially a no-show job and paid in order to convince her to get rid of the compliance office process that was taking place. i mean, there is something really, really abnormal about that, i think. there is something very dishonest about it in terms of the relationship between the congressman and the people he represents. it's a breach of trust that i am still scratching my head trying to figure out how anyone in his office was convinced that this would be okay. and so, you know, after a lot of discussion yesterday, after a lot of looking more deeply into what actually happened here, putting it in some context in terms of what happens normally in these cases, we decided that the right course for him, for the people he represents really is for him to step down. >> has his office responded or commented at all on your take? i mean , it's stunning for the people of michigan, a state where you've got areas like flint where people still don't have clean drinking water. where people have had to write the values of their homes down to zero. >> yeah. it's a stunning move. i mean, it's -- there's nothing about it that strikes me as appropriate. and you say taking tax dollars to do this, there's no question about that. that's a serious breach. but even if you reached into his own pocket and order to entice this staffer to withdraw this claim, it still has that patina of hush money. it still says i'm paying this person might talk about. he denies that any of this happened at all. >> then why the settlement? >> you know, i think that's more a question for a lawyer. i don't know. i think there's something quite odd about the whole thing. but more than that, it is this question of trying to keep this person quiet by rehiring her and telling her you don't show up for the job and take $27,000 of taxpayer money and give it to you. there is nothing about that that strikes me as the way these things ought to be handled. >> 27 grand. think of how many people in the state of michigan got hit with the crisis, lost their jobs in the autoindustry, dealt with the flint water problem. >> thank you for joining us. stand by. the flood of sexual harassment allegations are leaving many stunned. including bill kristol. donald trump and roy moore are bringing out my inner liberal. what is happening. we'll talk about that live next. . i do outrank my husband, not just being in the military, but at home. she thinks she's the boss. she only had me by one grade. we bought our first home together in 2010. his family had used another insurance product but i was like well i've had usaa for a while, why don't we call and check the rates? 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>> allegations have sprung up in the past. many of us feel like we are living in a new era where this behavior will not be tolerated. i hope so. >> for more on this, we're joined by anna marie cox. great to see you. you replied to bill crystal's tweet yesterday with this big one of us one of us one of us on top of it. i think we can show our viewers that obviously you may suggest. u are we seeing some sort of realignment because you're a republican or a conserve ifr or liberal, you have to hold true to all the ideas? >> it's what my pod cast is about. and on the sort of other side is strange because it includes people like me, preavowed leftists and apparently bill crystal. strange times make pore strange bed fellows, if i can use that term right now. and right now, i think, with you know, those of us who are fighting for decency and for the rule of law kind of need all the allies we can get. i am willing to fight alongside bill crystal. i would like to have a conversation with him about the cost of the iraq war, both financially and human costs. but he is someone who seems to be seen clearly or at least seeing my way on these things right now. well swibt -- >> i actually have hopes -- go ahead. >> no, go ahead. >> well, i have a hope that -- so i actually married a conservative not too long ago. and he's become less conservative over time. and it's not because i've convinced him of anything. it's because we've been together and he's seen me living my values. we've heard arguments we haven't heard before. i guess i have some hope of coalition of republicanes and more progressive people in our fight in a common enemy will actually start talking to each other and learn more about each other and perhaps have a coalition that endures even without disagreements. >> could donald trump have given us this? could donald trump have brought us together in the name of decency? i remember when president trump won after the access hollywood tame came out and so many people said oh, my god, have the flood gates to hell opened in terms of how women are going to get treated and issues around race? what in the world is going to happen here? but the then a few months after president trump wins and we've seen the "access hollywood" tape, there's been accusations against him from over a dozen women, and what happens a month later? the dam breaks, harvey wine streen, charlie rose, kevin spacey, the list goes on and on. so on one hand we thought, oh, my goodness, what has president trump just given license to.? he gave license to muth. we've gone the absolute other direction. >> well, i mean, i don't think it's quite evened out yet. but i do think that trump's election showed us some truths about america that a lot of us had been able to deny. a lot of us were living fairley comfortably and i think had a pretty rosy image of who we were. a lot of other people were not. a lot of other people, maybe we're a little closer and clearer in their vision. but the rest of us weren't. we felt we weren't a country -- but it turns out we were. and i think seeing the the country more clearly has activated some people who want something better to do more. and the those people can be on the right and on the left. but now we are seeing the country more clearly and seeing the parties more clearly and people are demanding change. and i think that we can work together for now and hopefully retain respect for each other later. >> anna maria cox, good to have you on the show. thank you for joining us. and i encourage your new friendship with bill crystal. >> thanks. >> hey, if you have him over for dinner, your husband is going to like him. all right. time now -- >> go ahead. i'll start. it's time now for monumental americans. we both lol love this seg.ment so much that we both want to start it. >> when people are like oh, my god, ali just interrupted her. it was his turn. we share the time entirely including with our executive producer who is yelling at me to keep reading. today we want to recognize two people, thomas hudner and ensign jesse brown. brown was the navy's first avenue can american aviator. the two were part of the same squad ron during the korean war at a time when the thought was could white and black men couldn't fly together. >> hudner intentionatly crashed his plane to try and save brown. as hudner packed the cockpit in snow to keep the flames away, brown asked him to tell his wife he loved her. >> ensign brown was posthumously awarded the flying cross. lieutenant hudner was awarded the medal of honor and promoted to captain. captain hudner just last monday in massachusetts. he was 93 years old. black and white captains, black and white pilots couldn't fly together. >> today, on the evening of thanksgiving, we are thankful for monumental americans. if you have an monumental american in mind, tweet us. 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