Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Steve Kornacki 201701

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Steve Kornacki January 25, 2017

How do we explain whats been going on. The last few months this big jump. Some people say its because of the election. Yeah, thats right. So if you take a look at where we were on november 4th. So four days before the election. The dow actually closed under 18,000. So since then, since the election, the dow has been up more than 9 and a lot of folks are calling this a trump rally. And this is why. Youve got now a president whos very pro business and has talked a lot of measures that he thinks will help propel the economy. And so thats why you started to see stocks creep higher right after the election. But then, we did actually stall out for about a month. Now that he is in office and he spent three full Business Days in office monday, tuesday, wednesday, he signed a number of executive orders. Hes met with auto ceos, manufacturing ceos, the market is believing that those Campaign Promises about things like spending on infrastructure and cutting Corporate Tax rates may actually start to come true. So for a while, it was a hope, then it became a show me story and now hes beginning to show the market. And thats why youve begun to see the stock market creep back up. However, weve also gotten some earnings reports, ibm reported earnings that beat wall streets expectations and that was one of the stocks that was among the higher stocks today in the dow. Its one of those dow components. So theres fundamentals at play, but theres also whats going on in washington. And investors sort of have to have split eyes one on each. All right. Courtney reagan. Keeping an eye on again, the historic moment here on wall street. Closing over 20,000 for the first time ever. Courtney, thank you for that. It is a very busy afternoon here. A lot of news that we are following. Including sad news just in the last few hours that weve learned about Mary Tyler Moore. She has passed away at the age of 80. Obviously an american icon. Her smile lighting up living rooms across the country for decades. She was in not one, but two hit sitcoms that have stood the test of time. She was nominated for an oscar for a movie. She was a political activist. That is television show, this is a career, this is a life that will echo through the ages. Mary tyler moore passing away at the age of 80. Much more on her life and legacy and the reaction pouring in right now throughout the hour. Also larry king. He was her friend. He has some thoughts. Hes going to join us in a few minutes as well. Stay tuned. But in the meantime also a lot going on in the world of politics. He had a major announcement. The secretary of Homeland Security working with myself and my staff will begin immediate construction of a border wall. [ applause ] again, just in the last hour, that was donald trump at the department of Homeland Security. He announced new executive orders to kick off the effort to build a wall along the southern border with mexico. Of course that was one of Donald Trumps signature Campaign Promises from the very beginning. He said he would build a wall. He also said that mexico would pay for that wall. But now, trump signing this measure with no guarantee from mexico that thats going to happen. In fact, so far, mexico has said, that is not going to happen. Were not going to pay for it. We are getting some hints though of what donald trump might have in mind when it comes to that question. Also, trump announcing an executive order thats designed to strengthen enforcement of policy within the United States. This one dealing with socalled sanctuary cities. There is a lot to digest here. Were going to start with kristin welker, she is at the white house. Kristen, we have two things going on here. One the wall, two, we got something on sanctuary cities. Take us through what the president just did. Reporter so first to the wall, President Trump signed an executive order directing the federal government to start the process of constructing that wall and finding the funds to do it, the preexisting funds. Whats interesting is he doesnt really get into specifically how they will find the funds and how much its going to cost. Estimates put it anywhere from 8 to several tens of billions of. So this is quite expensive project. And the question of course becomes will he need additional funding for this . And that would of course have to come from congress. So a lot of questions remain about how the wall is actually going to be paid for, but the white house insisting, including during the briefing today, press secretary sean spooiser insisting that mexicos going to pay for the wall that they will in some way pay back the United States. Some people are going to see that as breaking a bit with his Campaign Rhetoric with if not in word in the spirit what have he was saying. Of course he said, mexicos going to pay for this wall. Well now the reality is it looks like the american tax payers are going to foot the initial bill with a big question mark. Over whether theyre going to be reimbursed. The president s going to meet with Enrique Nieto in the coming weeks. We heard him take a new line of argument about why this would be beneficial for mexico. Trump saying this would benefit the mexican economy and ultimately that would improve security for mexico as well as the United States. So that might be part of the argument that he makes to the mexican president when he comes to visit. In terms of sanctuary cities. President trump trying to crack down on socalled snkts cities which harbor immigrants saying that he will withhold federal grants and federal funding from those cities. So, a lot here to unpack. The question is, how will it work . The president indicating in an interview with abc that hes going to get construction going immediately maybe within the next several months. Steve. Kristin welker at the white house. Very busy news day here in these early days of the trump presidency. Krist kristin, thanks for that. As she was just saying, the opening question remains after this executive order from President Trump. Who is paying for the wall . Mexico has said in the past as kristin just told you they have no plans to do that. Today, trump though telling abc news that he can guarantee there will be some form of reimbursement. This is what he had to say. Are you going to direct u. S. Funds to pay for this wall . Will american tax payers pay for the wall . Ultimately, itll come out of whats happening with mexico. Were going to be starting those negotiations relatively soon. And we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico so theyll pay us back . Absolutely. 100 . So the american tax payer will pay for the wall at first . All it is, well be reimbursed at a later day from whatever transaction we make from mexico. Mexicos president said in recent days that mexico absolutely will not pay adding that it goes against our dignity as a country and dignity as mexicans. He says he has to say that. He has to say that. But im just telling you, there will be a payment, it will be in a form, perhaps a complicated form, and you have to understand, what im doing is good for the United States. Its also going to be good for mexico. All right. To talk through all of this, i have congressman from both sides of the aisle, Chris Collins from new york, and from arizona. Chris collins, excuse me, republican retreat in philadelphia. Hes also the congressional l liaison for the trump Transaction Team and now the trump presidency. Actually, i wanted to start with you with the sort of a more basic question on this. I know this is something this theme donald trump struck in the campaign about building this wall was something democrats didnt like, something his opponents didnt like, but he did campaign on it. He did win the election. He did win your home state, arizona. Is it something now where you look around and say, im going to work with him on construction of this . Absolutely not. And this isnt popular just with democrats. I mean, even republicans such as flake, senator flake and mccain have said that this is a nonstarter. The wall is a ridiculous idea. Its not going to change our integration issues. Let me follow up quickly and i want to bring in congressman collins in. It distracts from reform. Thats not what donald trump was running on in the campaign. Didnt the result of the election take that off the table . At least for the foreseeable future . The result of the Electoral College made that decision. Lets be clear that his position was unpopular with the 2. 8 Million People that voted over donald trump despite all of z his conspiracy theories. Congressman, let me ask you about this issue of mexico paying for it. You just heard that clip there. Donald trump on abc news basically saying hey this could end up being complicated. Reimbursed at a later date from a transaction we will make. We got some indications in this executive order, maybe theyre looking at money thats currently being sent to mexico with the potential to siphon some of it off and say hey, this is going to the wall instead he made a very clear, very blunt promise throughout the campaign. Mexico pays for it. This idea of maybe redirecting money that u. S. Is already sending to mexico, does that really count as mexico paying for it . Well, lets start with steve, the obvious, lets say a county puts up a bridge. They pay for it. They contract it out, its in the budget, they pay for it, and then they apply back say to the federal highway funds to get reimbursed. Of course the United States is going to build the wall. Hence were going to be contracting the folks. Theyre going to have a contract with the u. S. Government. We have to pay those bills. And i accept what President Trump is saying, that hell be negotiating, one way or the other, to get the moneys back. Here in philadelphia, we were just told were going to be working on a supplemental appropriation in the next two months relative to the wall. So people have said wheres the money going to come from . The speaker did tell us this afternoon we will be looking at a supplemental appropriation some time this spring to do this. And then well rely on President Trump as he said, theres many different ways, a dollar is fundable one way or the other. The money is coming back, but initially we need to appropriate the funds, we need to set the contracts, we need to pay the bills and personally i have all the faith there is in our president will be reimbursed one way or the other. And let me follow up with you on something your colleague was just say, hes saying look the solution in his view is still comprehensive immigration reform, which would work towards some sort of path to citizenship or legal status for those who are lawabiding and in this country. This is something that the Republican House speaker, paul ryan, has supported in the past. From your standpoint, republicans run the house. Youre warning the republicans in the house, how do you view that issue of reform . Is that dead right now after this election or is that something given the paul ryan supporter, is that still open . Not at all. Very much still open. I have a lot of Dairy Farmers in western new york. We all know that quite a few of those workers are undocumented. Some have been here 20 years raising a family. The president was very clear. Secure our borders, number one. Building the wall is part of that. Number two, get the criminal element out of the United States. And he is working on that. And he has said there is then plenty of time for us to deal with those workers who are here, perhaps on the dairy farms or the crop farmers and the lake. Maybe been here for decades. We will deal with them and i would interpret that myself in the compassionate way, he is a very compassionate person. So im not, you know, theres not a deportation force. All the fears the democrats have tried to talk about. None of that is coming to. Secure the borders, get rid of the criminal element and we will as americans as we always have deal in a compassionate way. Theyre not going to get citizenship. You know, the illegal certainly adults that came in here, republican conference will never grant citizenship, but legal work papers is another discussion for another day, and i believe the president will be open to that when that time comes, few months down the road. All right congressman Chris Collins, republican at republican retreat. Ruben from washington, thank you both for the time. Appreciate that. Thank you. Again, a lot going on in the world of politics in this first full week of the trump presidency. We are going to get to much more throughout the hour. Again, returning to the other top news this afternoon. This very sad news, the passing of legendary actress Mary Tyler Moore. She dialled today at the age of 80. Now, Mary Tyler Moore had recently been hospitalized in connecticut. We are told that she passed away in the company of her family. And her friends. Shes a sixtime emmy award winner, she was part of two of the most iconic sitcoms in television history. In the early 60s she played a stay at home mom on the Dick Van Dyke show. Youre seeing clips right now. Then, rising even to Greater Heights as the feisty single working woman in her own comedy, the Mary Tyler Moore show. A big hit on cbs in the 1970s. She also was in the movie ordinary people in 1981. Nominated for an academy aword for that. Here is miguel al ma gear with a luck at the life of Mary Tyler Moore. Laura, will you her me . Reporter most know her from tv. Mary tyler moores two major sitcom roles are emblematic of the way it changes between the early 60s and the 70s. There was laura from the old Dick Van Dyke show. She brought her own special brand of spunk to the screen. And Mary Richards, the career woman of the Mary Tyler Moore show. Born in brooklyn, new york, in 1936, moore was the oldest child of an politic mother and distance father. She found refuge in dance lessons. Those led to her first job out of high school. Appearing in appliance commercials as the hot point elf. At 17, moore married richard mooeker, an older salesman then lost her job when she became pregnant at 18 with her only son, richie. Its no use, im just fed up. Reporter she returned to tv as a guest star on various series until she landed the role of sam, the sultry unscene Answering Service operator on Richard Diamond private detective in 1957. Her big break came in 1961 when she became Dick Van Dykes tv wife for the next five years. Oh. Reporter she returned to tv in 1970, the Mary Tyler Moore show produced by her own company, mtm led by her second husband, grant tinker. As Mary Richards, she broke the role for women in sitcoms. She was over 30, employs and spent the night with a man. Why are you here . Well, i havent seen you in a month or so. And oh no, you didnt think the only reason i was here was to reporter and instead of a family, she had coworkers and friends. Reporter in seven years, the series won a record 29 emmies. In the late 70s, moore turned to the stage and the big screen. First as a suicidal paraplegic in whose life is it anyway on broadway. Dont try do change me. Reporter followed by the repressed mother in the missouri ordinary people. But moores private life was in turmoil. About the early 70s i began to drink to the point where i thought about it as a solution. Reporter her son died of an accidental gunshot wound. And her 17 year marriage to tinker ended a year later. In 1984, moore checked herself into the betty ford center. Thats a battle that is never won. You constantly say i am a recovering alcoholic. Reporter now sober, moore played lead in supporting roles on television and in movies for new audiences. I want you to consider my age and ask yourself how i maintain this. Reporter moore, who suffered from diabetes for most of her adult life was a spokesperson for the Animal Rights activist. For fans, she was in the words of her theme song, someone who could turn the world on with her smile. Nbc news, los angeles. And Mary Tyler Moores good friend larry king paying tribute to her this afternoon tweeting, she was a truly great person and a fighter. Larry king on Mary Tyler Moore and joining me by phone right now is larry king. Larry, thanks for joining us, obviously on such a sad occasion. First, just talk you knew her personally. She was a friend. We all knew her through television. Tell us about the Mary Tyler Moore that you knew. What you saw on tv was what she was. Thats that smile, that ingratiating personality, that sense of humor. That was on and off the air. That was Mary Tyler Moore. She had a world of friends, she was a caring person. Underrated actress. Terrific on stage, terrific in television, terrific in movies. And the public loved her. She was also a pioneer. She was ahead of her time, you know, women didnt star on Many Television shows. When Mary Tyler Moore came along with the shows was a brilliant show, set in minneapolis, she carved her own niche and then finally i joined her, i was in the juvenile Diabetes Foundation supported her immensely in

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