A shooting, involving a man who we now have identified as esteban assistant ya go, 26yearold man. Witnesses say he walked into the area where people were pulling their bags off the carousel, and just indiscriminantly started shooting. They say he shot many shots and then reloaded his weapon. And then started shooting again. One witness describing him running out of ammunition eventually and laying down on the ground as he called it spread eagle and waiting for Law Enforcement to arrive. And he was taken without any kind of fight. The local sheriff, Broward County sheriff telling us that he was not shot, he was not there was no interaction between him and Law Enforcement. Law enforcement was able to just take him into custody. And he is now being interviewed by the fbi. But the sad news is that he did manage to kill at least five people and injure a number of others. Tom cost tell low has been following this all afternoon for us as well. And tom, the airport remains shut down at this point, right . No operations. Thats correct. We see people, and i believe are those live pictures were looking at, guys . Those are live pictures. So there are still people out on the tarmac. So for all of those travelers. For all of those worried about someone who might be at ft. Lauderdale airport, what do we know . Well, i think youre going to see this airport really pretty much in a lock down mode or at least certainly not operational i would guess, well into the evening hours here. Youve got all of that stuff out on the ramp right now. Whether its a luggage cart, whether it is vehicles, fire apparatus, of course, youve also got all of those people who ran out on to the ramp, came back into the terminal, ran back out again, i mean, youve got an awful lot of people there who we they, need to make sure are secure and that they didnt leave anything out on the ramp. It doesnt even by the way have to be a security concern that something may have been left on the ramp, but quite literally fod. Foreign object degree. Then it gets ingested, that can be catastrophic for an engine. Theyve got a major issue here where theyve got to make sure that the entire airport apparatus is secure in terms of a Law Enforcement perspective, but also that the runways are clean. Literally clean so that planes can come and go and take off. So theyve got a very big job. I would be surprised if they reopened this airport into the evening hours. They may even decide to wait until tomorrow. Well see how that goes. I want to let you know that virtually every other major airport in the country is reporting that they are upgrading their Security Posture with police very much, on a forwardleaning kind of a position. Now thats miami, which tells us theyre open and operating, but theyve put their s. W. A. T. Teams out, deployed through the airport, new york, doing the same thing. The new York State Police backing up the Port Authority police at newark, jfk, and also at laguardia. Were hearing the same thing from l. A. X. Listen, i would suspect that if you are at any major airport in the country and theyve been watching these pictures on tv, you can imagine that they have take telephone upon themselves, they did not need an order from anybody in washington. I wanted to address also the fact, kate, that this suspect may have come in having checked a firearm, picked up the firearm were hearing from the baggage carousel, and then possibly loaded that weapon in the restroom. And you may be thinking, how can you check a firearm . In fact, its very easy to check a firearm in luggage. It has to be in a secure, locked and hard cased type of case. In order for it to be checked. Its got to be declared with the airline. They have to see your id. Theyve got to be confident that nobody can gain access to that hard case. In other words, it is a very good hard case and it has a lock on it. And that you must check both ammunition and your weapon. Every year, the tsa confiscated, in fact more and more weapons at airport check points. Somebody is trying to either deliberately or unintentionally get a weapon past a tsa check point in 2015, they confiscated 2,600 weapons. And we had even more last year. I dont have the final count for 2016. So thats a constant struggle, but you can legally check a firearm, whether its a long gun for shooting, for hunting if youre going to colorado or something. Foryoure trying to transport a handgun, you can do that all legally as long as you followed the tsa guidelines that are spelled out on their website. You can tom, you can do that from canada on an International Flight through customs as well, right . I must say theres some discrepancy at this moment as to where exactly this passenger was originating. You can certainly do that domestically. I need check and see what the laws and regulars are in canada as well. Pete williams is reporting from Law Enforcement that they believe he did enter on a flight from canada. But youre right to use caution, tom, because things have been changing by the minute here. And we certainly want to let our viewers know in an open way that what we know right now at 4 00 eastern may again change. Tom, thank you so much for all of your insight. Ill let you go back to reporting. We have some tape that we talked to you earlier, we mentioned this. We talked to a man named mark lee. He came in on a flight i believe from minnesota, from minneapolis, he described what happened. He was in that baggage area, in term nam two when this all happened. It is difficult to listen to, but heres what he said about what happened. He didnt say anything. He was quiet the whole time. He didnt yell at people, did nothing. He just started shooting. He was about 57, about 165. You know, from that point. So he just like i said, randomly shooting people. Went up anticipate down the carousels of the baggage claim, shooting through lug tooj get at people hiding and just like i said,. 09 millimeter. About three magazines and saw him on the ground. Fully expected. Reporter yeah, he didnt run. He threw the gun down and he laid spread eagle until the officer came up to him. Single shooter. One gun, one shooter. Folks running, folks getting down on the ground. Folks with you. Are they all okay . Yep. Well, the people we just landed on that delta flight from minneapolis. My wife and i, were fan. She ran out of building. I started helping people get out, older people that kept tripping over each other as they were trying to get out. I got a bunch of people out. I ran back and and tried to get people safe from cover from that perspective, and, you know, like you say, after he got people down, ran out of ammunition by that time. And i was probably within 50 feet of him. And i saw him basically had a blue polo shirt on there. Threw the gun on the ground and laid down spread eagle and basically had one of the Broward County officers Sheriffs Department came up behind me with his gun drawn and came up behind him and basically in got up to him and secured the scene and everything else. And that was the voice of mark lee who was a passenger at baggage claim in terminal two at ft. Lauderdale, hollywood airport. Five people are dead. And a number of people injured. We heard eight injured, it might grow to be more people. The injured have been taken to local hospitals. Were trying to get a reporter there, but what do we know . It is more people. One the reasons were hearing its more people, at least 14. Theyre headed to broward medical center, the wounded. I think its fair to say to assume that people were hurt. During evacuations, we saw panic, we saw people running. And oftentimes, that will cause injuries. Reporter eyewitness on the phone that saw somebody be trampled by a crowd. Just because people were trying to rush out. Yeah, and listen, its an airport. You have kids, you have the elderly. You have everybody coming in. And this is baggage claim. We keep bringing this up, but its really important that balgage claim, nobodys focussed on anything except that are baggage. S that an ambulance is that a live picture on the left side of the screen . Yes, that is live picture. One of the things we were talking about when we were playing that sound. We dont know what the shooter is telling police. Youre seeing a lot of activity on the left side of your screen. That can be out of caution, that can be a reaction to what he may be saying to authorities. He left various explosive devices around plab in the parking lot. We have seen that in the past. Right. We dont obviously we have no idea what hes telling authorities, we know hes being interviewed right now by the foib reiterate if youre just joining us. This is the scene at ft. Lauderdale Hollywood International airport. Where we know that about three hours ago, a shooting took place. The local Broward County sheriff told us that he believes it is just that one incident that happened. And that there were no other in his words, no shooting any place else at the airport, despite the fact that weve seen and heard a lot of the reports on social media of people thinking there were gunshots elsewhere. Thinking throughout other terminals were effected. Again, the sheriff saying that it is only that earlier shooting three hours ago in terminal two. That they believe was an actual shooting. We have seen a lot of Police Activity around the parking structures outside of the airport. They said a while ago, they believe theyre just clearing that out. But we have seen s. W. A. T. Teams, cal, with guns drawn. Maybe thats just standard procedure. Maybe the gunman told them that he left something, a car, a bag, we dont know. Or maybe witnesses running out of that parking garage reported to Law Enforcement heading in that they heard gunfire. Thats not necessarily an Expert Witness telling that Law Enforcement that they heard gunfire. Weve got a graphic showing the layoff so we can give our viewers a look. First shooting, the only one sure happened at the baggage claim of term in a twol. That is in red that we just highlighted just below the garage. That is the garage that our Kerry Sanders has told us was cleared and was being surrounded by those s. W. A. T. Teams as they moved in. There are still there might still be people in the garage. One of our local affiliate reporters who is trapped inside a car sort of waiting, you know, just hiding in a car, just until the all clear comes. I want to get to kenneth, hes a former Port Authority police chand Commanding Officer for jfk and la guardia airports. Certainly knows the procedures in place. Thank you for being with us. My pleasure. You drill this sort of thing, dont you . All the time. Im sure you have massive books on what to do when an active shooter comes into your airport. Well, the Port Authority police as well as Police Departments all across the country at airports have tabletopped and exercises what they would do in the event of a report of an active shooter. You saw an example just a month or so go during the politics when there was a loud sound at one of the terminals at jfk and the police came in and diamondshaped pattern. They told everybody to stay down, and they made their way through the terminal looking for the source of the shooting. Their goal is to stop the source of the shooting. They also will give direction to people to get themselves to an area of safety. You could tell them to get down or directing them towards an exit. They dont want people running, they dont want people moving because that could distract them from the shooter. The other thing that will happen is, the other Law Enforcement agencies will all work cooperatively. Youve got a large number of Law Enforcement agencies at an airport. You have the local police, sometimes you have state police, you have federal officer from customs and border protection. And the federal air marshals from the tsa. You mentioned you dont want people running, you dont want it to be disorderly, i have to say over the past few hours, weve had a lot of shots, aerial pictures and we might be able to show some of that tape of people running across the tarmac. Of people trying to evacuate other terminals. From what youve seen i dont know how long youve been watching. Is this the way its supposed to go . Is this happening . Is this playing out the way you would hope in your drills . The tsa, federal drive line, the National Standard is, run, hide, fight. If you hear shots, you get out. First thing to do is get out. At an airport, in your gate area, the closest exits are all going to take you out on to the tarmac. And the ramp and gate area. That is where they expect people to go. The airlines and. Airport operators have plans in place. You saw that very soon after those people started going out on the tarmac, there were buses throughout. There were airport people out there in vests corralling them to make sure they didnt go out on an active taxi way and get themselves in an area where they could get injured by a moving airport. One of the things is a control tower will be notified and they will put a ground stop on aircraft. Moving in the area. So that theyre all held in place. You see from the live shot, people are being corralled by fire trucks thats old by the way. Okay. Kenneth, can i ask you to stay with us please . Because you are a great source of information for us on this. If you stand by, i want to go back to Pete Williams. Youve been working the phones, do you have anymore information . Well, a couple of things, kate, here. Its clear to us now that he did not arrive he did not drive to the ft. Lauderdale airport. He flew to the airport. He began today with a flight from anchorage, connecting to minneapolis, getting on another plane and flying into the ft. Lauderdale airport. That he had in his checked bag the gun he used in the shooting. Whether he declared it as you can legally do or had it in the suitcase, we dont know that. In any event, authorities believe that the gun he used was he didnt have it in his carryon, in his person, he had it in his checked bag. He retrieved the gun. He retrieved ammunition that he had. We dont know where he loaded the weapon, whether he stepped outside and then came back in, whether he went to a restroom, came back in, came to a different baggage claim area, in any event, thats to be determined, but that he flew to the airport today in ft. Lauderdale. One question is why ft. Lauderdale. They have yet to identify any florida connection with this suspect, Esteban Santiago who was living in alaska, born originally in new jersey. A family that is of puerto rican dissent. Signed up for the army reserve in august 2016. As for a potential motive here, authorities are pushing that very hard, at this preliminary stage, they say it does not appear to be any sign of terrorism. And there are some indications that this person had some mental problems to Law EnforcementOfficials Say there was a history of that. Perhaps he had sought treatment. There have been some Law Enforcement contact with him because he claimed he was hearing voices. So at this point, and this is all subject to revision because there has been nothing conclusive reached here, this does not appear to be an act of terrorism. This appears to be the actions of someone with mental problems. Whether there was a terrorism overlay or this is a person who was susceptible to these suggestions, i dont know the answer to that question yet. But, the initial word is this does not appear to be in its purist form or basic form an act of terrorism. Did you say he went from anchorage, minneapolis, minneapolis to ft. Lauderdale . And the flight originated, both originated stand by one second. You see that picture on the left side there . Were watching someone it looks like maybe taken into custody. Cant be sure what were watching playing out there. Thats outside the parking garage. And the authorities have cautioned about this earlier, kate, they had said and this does not look like the images that weve seen of the shooter that have been on social media it doesnt square with the description of eyewitnesss. Pete, thats a live picture. And the sheriff said in his News Conference that, you know, if there are people who may be suspected or helping or whatever. Theyre all going to be arrested and theyll sort it out later. He seemed confident and all the people weve talked to seem confident there was just one person involved in this. And i interrupted you, im sorry. Anchorage, no canada, correct . Right. The flight originated in anchorage. Whether any flights were air canada from either alaska to minnesota or minneapolis to ft. Lauderdale, we dont know that yet. He would have gone through u. S. Style airport security. Right. Right. Okay. And it makes more sense that he might have flown from his home. He was living in anchorage, we dont know why on earth he went to ft. Lauderdale, florida. Right, but i think the headline at this point from all indications we have they dont believe this is an act of terrorism. Pete williams, thank you. Former Port Authority police Commanding Officer for jfk and la guardia airports. Both large, International Airports themselves. Given what pete just reported, that this man came from on a flight from anchorage and was able to check a weapon that sounds right to you . People do that every day. People all the time check weapons and carry them. The rule for carrying a handgun is that you must be teebl legally test the weapon both the beginning and the end of the trip. If he legally could possess the weapon in alaska or wherever he started. And hed legally possess the weapon in florida or wherever he told him he was going to end the trip. As long as it was packaged within tsa regulations. Being unloaded, it being a in a locked case. Ammunition being separated from the weapon in a different subject. 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