states instead. of course, this was a major point of emphasis on the campaign trail for donald trump. carrier, the air-conditioning company that had been slated to send 2,000 jobs to mexico, trump said that if he was elected president, he would get the jobs back. after days of negotiating, trump and his vice president-elect mike pence, pence still the governor of indiana, they have hammered out a deal where carrier is announcing they will keep about half of those jobs. but donald trump says that's just the beginning. >> they say it's not presidential to call up these massive leaders of business. i think it's very presidential. if it's not presidential, that's okay. that's okay. because i actually like doing it. but we're going to have a lot of great people that can also do it and do it as well as i do it. but we're going to have a lot of phone calls made to companies who are thinking about leaving this country. they're not going to leave this country and the workers are going to keep their jobs. they can leave from state to state, and they can negotiate good deals with the different states and all that, but leaving the country is going to be very, very difficult. >> we're just starting to get the details from that deal. we'll dive into that in just a second, but this event that was trump's first speech since the election, his second just a few hours from now in cincinnati, ohio. that is where we find hallie jackson. halley, this was more of, i guess, a policy speech. at least, that was the design in indiana, trump announcing that deal with carrier. but in cincinnati and ohio, this is a victory tour. this is another campaign speech, essentially, tonight. >> i would imagine. i think that's what we're going to hear, right, is what we've heard from donald trump for the last six months in the general election and a year before that, which is him getting out there and getting the people who came to see him riled up and kind of feeding off that energy. it's something he enjoyed doing as a candidate. he was not somebody that had to be dragged out to rallies, and notably he was a candidate who didn't do the ton of smaller mom and pop type stops that you would see in places like iowa and new hampshire. he very rarely did the diner thing, he would pop in here and there, but it was different than the vfw candidates that would come in and visit. this was a classic trump day, you could say, given we saw a speech in the morning or early afternoon. we'll see what is expected to be more of a rally atmosphere here in cincinnati tonight, and, you know, the president-elect notably getting out now his first sort of podium speech since election night, and then his first rally, if you will, since before the election. >> that's hallie jackson out there in cincinnati. donald trump back to those mega rallies tonight, his first one since the election. now, we want to get back on that carrier story we started on. blake mccoy is in indiana where trump just spoke in the last hour. he's talking to some of the workers that may be affected by this deal. blake, the headline, there is a lot of jobs being saved here. not all of the jobs that were on the chopping block, though. what is the reaction? >> well, you have one factory here about a thousand jobs, so this is really a drop in the bucket when you look at the broader manufacturing picture of the u.s., but this is a huge symbolic -- >> i just lost the audio. i can't hear anything. what's going on? okay, sounds like we lost blake mccoy there. blake mccoy was at that rally donald trump just held in minneapolis in the last hour. again, trump announcing that some, not all, some of the jobs that carrier had slated to move to mexico will be staying in the united states. of course, a lot of details to this deal that we're just starting to learn about, exactly what it took to get carrier to agree to leave these jobs here. what we're learning so far, ali velchi, indiana is getting $7 million of tax deals. is this a sweet deal? >> yeah. here's the thing. america creates 6,000 jobs a day, 180 jobs a month. most new jobs are created by small and medium sized businesses, so incentives for large businesses are a little more optics than they are dealing with the underlying problem that manufacturing jobs have been leaving this country for 40 years. that is a secular economic problem based on the fact that we have higher wages than other countries that can create those same things for lower wages. great example, $25 a day -- is it 23, $25 an hour for a carrier worker in indiana, $3 an hour for a similar worker in mexico. so we got a deal with that. it's not all wages. sometimes it's the infrastructure around it, the politics, the ability to move things around on good roads and ship them on good ports. america doesn't have to go to $3 wages. doesn't even have to go down in wages to compete. but this is not competition because the taxpayers in indiana are now subsidizing the stuff areaier makes. >> carrier is getting 7 million bucks in tax deals. 1100 jobs is what's being saved not going to mexico. trump said in his speech, tell me if this is accurate, he said 1100 is baseline, carrier continuing to invest and that number will grow. >> it's hard to say. he focused on carrier and ford because he knew both those companies had some plans to t e production that was in the united states and send them to mexico. what companies do, not to get in the crosshairs of federal governments, they don't move to somewhere else, but as they expand, they build that new production in other countries, so you don't get that sense of offshoring, they're just expanding internationally. donald trump has focused on these two companies because they made announcements of moving offshore. but there are companies setting up new jobs all around the world. i'm not sure about the baseline or not. i should be clear. for these 1100 people and their families and the businesses that will thrive because they're there -- >> they've got to be thrilled. >> -- this is great news, but we need to increase on the 6,000 jobs a month we create. this is just not a sustainable way of doing it. >> on the flip side, we also say it's 1100 jobs that are staying, 1300 jobs still moving to mexico, and i think a lot of people would look at this from afar, and they would say, look, the company is getting all these tax breaks. trump said he wants to save the jobs, why isn't carrier keeping all of these in the united states? >> carrier is part of united technologies, united technologies had last year about $56 billion in revenue. fully 10% of that revenue came from the u.s. government. in fact, the department of defense is the single biggest customer to carrier. so you would have thought they could get this done without giving them $700,000 a year just by saying, you want to keep doing business with the u.s. government? keep your jobs here. that being said, that is something the obama administration could have tried and didn't. so we're in a whole new territory here. on one hand you give donald trump kudos for trying what he has to do to keep these jobs here, but on an economic basis, if we need to increase on that 6,000 new jobs we create every month, we're going to need something a little more creative than donald trump calling up ceos and either threatening or cajoling them to stay. >> some of them made a comment that it almost looked like an ad, talking about what a great, patriotic company they are. is that something he could do as president, take to other companies and basically say, look, i'll do an ad for you. i'll come to your facility and tell the country how great you are if you play ball with me. >> it's a great play. they make heaters, air conditions, many of us have them in our houses. ford is a car you buy. defense companies, they have to go in front of congress and look like they're worthy recipients of taxpayer money. from a pr side of things, not falling into the crosshairs of the administration and getting them to do all of this in front of your logos actually is more than money can buy. >> nbc's ali velchi, thank you. i bring in political analyst, former democratic governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell. starting with the politics on this. do you know what jumped out at me yesterday when we first got wind trump would be out there today? the united steel workers union actually came out with a statement praising donald trump for making this happen, for getting these jobs to stay in the united states. they praised bernie sanders and donald trump in this statement. are we seeing in action here why donald trump did surprisingly well in a state like yours, pennsylvania? >> yeah, because he made specific promises. but as ali pointed out, this is a little bit of a farce. to keep carrier in indiana were state incentives. that $700,000 didn't have anything to do with the federal government. donald trump didn't have to give them a tax cut. bernie sanders said trump talked in the campaign about a damn tax he was going to place on them, instead he gave them a damn tax cut. what he could have done is threaten to take away the defense jobs, saying that they would have to pay their workers if we're going to keep the workers, make them sign as part of the deal, keep the wages and benefits for the workers. they didt do that. the only thing they did, they promised they were going to take the federal income tax for corporations down from 35% to 15%. but guess what united technologies, utc, united technologies company paid last year in effective taxes, federal taxes? they didn't pay 35%, they didn't pay 15%, they paid 9%. so this is all a dog and pony show. the steelworkers -- >> let me ask from this standpoint, though. you've been a governor. you've been in situations like this. every governor has to deal with the threat of a company leaving the state, maybe leaving the country. if you were governor of pennsylvania right now and you had a company like carrier looking to move a couple thousand jobs to mexico, would you look at this deal to keep half those jobs here? >> absolutely. absolutely. there's no question i would make the deal. and we did it. more often it's -- the state taking jobs from the state. india indiana, they moved to indiana. we put $15 million on the table so they could modernize their factory. we do that all the time. i'm not faulting mike pence for doing this. he did the right thing as governor of indiana. what i'm saying is for donald trump to take credit for this is ludicrous. because these were all state benefits. nothing he did in any way. the big promise of taking the income tax rate down from 35 to 15% is meaningless to a company like utc because of all of the tax credits and tax expenditures. they only paid 9% effective rate last year, i think 10% effective rate over the last 15 years, so for donald trump to take credit for this is really ludicrous. mike pence should have been the guy up there taking credit for it. >> do you think there is something to be said, though, for the idea that if trump were to apply this model going forward, the next carrier, the next company that's talking about moving jobs somewhere, there's the tax incentive side of it, but there is also the side of it that maybe if the president of the united states makes a point that this is personally important to him, uses his bully pulpit, uses his twitter pulpit in the case of donald trump to potentially bash the company if it leaves, or conversely, to praise the company if it stays and go hold events there, is there potentially a model there where donald trump could be a more activist president who keeps jobs on these sort of case by case basises? >> sure, and there's nothing wrong with doing it except for this. if you incentivize these deals to every company thinking of maybe staying, has no interest in offshoring, they just contact the white house and say, we're thinking of offshoring and we're taking 2,000 jobs with us, what do we do? the precedent has been set by carrier. what do you do? there's the danger in that specifically, number one. ask number two, as ali pointed out, and as you know, steve, we have to produce about 220,000 jobs each month in growth to save a thousand jobs. it looks good, it makes great headlines, but it doesn't make a dent. i would much rather see donald trump say any company that does business in the united states of america, if it takes workers offshore, out of the country, it doesn't qualify for government contracts. that would be something that would have a real impact across the board, not doing these run- -- one-shot things. it doesn't make a dent in the economy when we have to produce 220,000 jobs a month, to save 1,000 jobs, not to say the worker won't have his benefits slashed, and whatever credit there is, mike pence gets the lion's share of the credit in my book. >> thanks for your time as always. meanwhile, we told you at the start we are waiting for a verdict that could come any minute now in that murder trial of a south carolina police officer who was recorded on a cell phone video shooting an african-american man after a traffic stop. michael slager was charged in walter scott's death last spring, and up next we're going to go live in charleston. the jury is deliberating there for a second straight day. plus, the abduction mystery out in california. police still have no suspects and no clear motive in the case of a mother jogging and found on the side of the road weeks later. they are pointing to human trafficking. somemes when brushing my gums bleed. no big deal. but my hygienist said, it is a big deal. go pro with crest pro health gum protection. it helps prevent gum bleeding by targeting harmful bacteria on your gums. left untreated, these symptoms could lead to more serious problems including tooth loss. gum crisis averted. here you go.picking up for kyle. you wouldn't put up with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? 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>> reporter: hi there, steve, good afternoon. within the past few minutes we do have some new information. the jury has come back and asked for transcripts of two pieces of testimony, one that michael slager testimony from earlier in the week that you just heard, and also from angela peterson, the lead investigator with the state. they're asking to look through those transcripts, so that could suggest that they're going to really analyze his transcripts and that suggests this could drag on for at least several more hours while they look through those. right now we're wondering how long that could take. the jury got the case yesterday after closing arguments and it deliberated for about an hour yesterday. they resumed around 10:00 a.m. this morning, have been working throughout the day working through lunch. this jury is made up of 11 whites and one black man, and again, as you mentioned, michael slager is accused of murder. another option is also voluntary manslaughter. so right now it's in the hands of the jury, steve. >> all right. gabe gutierrez down there in charleston, south carolina. of course, we will keep a close eye on any developments coming out of that courthouse. coming up, frightening moments for legendary astronaut buzz aldrin. why the man who once traveled to the moon had to be evacuated from the bottom of the earth. plus the death toll rising in those tennessee fires. we have a live update for you and details on how the weather is playing a crucial role incon. stay with us. gels delivers the powerful cold symptom relief you need without the unnecessary additives you don't. store manager: clean up, aisle 4. alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. what aremaking a cake!ht now? 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>> reporter: good afternoon. that's the wreckage behind me, there, but it is, of course, the final resting place for 71 souls and that's what you think about when you see it. when you look close up, you get a picture of just exactly what those people went through. the fuselage is twisted, the wing there, you can see, is turned over. all across the wreckage, mangled seats, oxygen masks strewn around, life vests. you can't see further up the hill, but the plane has torn through the trees there. it has ripped trees from their roots, and it looks as if the plane caught the top of the hill, was trying to get down towards the airport, couldn't make it and then broke up. in the other direction is the front landing gear of the aircraft just thrown forward by the force of the impact. it's actually incredible when you look at it that six people survived this, four of those in critical condition. three of the soccer team, a journalist, two crew members. those two crew members were told by a doctor and now talking and conscious. it looks like they were lucky to be at the back of the plane and they assumed the brace position immediately, and that may have saved their lives. i've spoken to one local man here who was here on the night. he said he heard some kind of explosion, a loud bang. it didn't sound like an aircraft crash to him. he only really realized what happened when he heard the news. he came here and helped rescue one survivor. when he came here in the morning, steve, he found a mobile phone with multiple missed calls. and you can hear just how close we are to the airport from the aircraft going over. we're told by local people, steve, that this pilot was just four minutes away from the airport there, just four minutes away from making it and saving all these lives. steve? >> that is a heartbreaking detail. keir simmons in colombia, thank you for that report. also, breaking news in eastern tennessee to tell you about. the number of fatalities there has now increased to 10. those raging wildfires, the search for the missing continues. the sunny weather is helping in those efforts after a second round of storms and high winds pounded the area yesterday. seven people in total have died so far, thousands without power. only 10% of the fire is currently contained. this despite obviously exhaustive efforts by firefighters. nbc's mariana atencio. how is it today? >> i'm there with the death toll rising from 7 to 10. the bureau of investigations, they had around 100 calls on a hot line they were operating this morning. agents respective on 70 of those calls, and they also just updated us and told us that all those people are accounted for. now, i drove into gatlinburg this morning, and we still see smoke rising up into the mountains. they still see those pockets of fires that could possibly become active and just, you know, get larger at any moment. so there are firefighters, there are people just monitoring these fires, but there is little they can do. the goal tonight, however, according to the gatlinburg city manager is to really do an extensive search of the city. they've divided the city in three areas. they still have a lot of progress to make. the last information we got from the press conference is that the majority of the roads except for three, which are very badly damaged, are going to be open for property owners tomorrow. they will get limited access, but these people will be able to go back to their businesses and their homes just to start the recovery efforts. by monday they hope to open two of the main arteries in town, and that's roads 321 and highway 441 here in gatlinburg, steve. >> mariana atencio, thank you. that rescue from the south pole. tom costello joins me now for the latest. tom, 86 years old, obviously an american hero. he's down in the south pole, he's now in a hospital in new zealand. what can you put together about what was happening here? >> it was just an extraordinary rescue operation, but the good news is the photographs, i think, may help tell the story. we have photographs that true to form buzz aldrin has tweeted out this afternoon and his manager. there he is in the er at christchurch, new zealand, and he's smiling, and there is also a photograph of him in the back of an ambulance in which he's clearly doing better. he's pinked up, if you will. that's him on the left in the back of the ambulance, and you can see he's wearing a blue fleece and he's got a thumbs up sign there. all of that good news, but it was a very, very serious situation, i'm told. here's what happened. buzz aldrin was on this charter group, you see a group of them, on their way to the south pole, a luxury adventure tour, if you will, heading to the south pole. once they got there, his condition began to deteriorate rather quickly. one source said he started to have a problem with losing the oxygen levels in his blood. he wasn't getting enough oxygen. and his condition deteriorated rather quickly. the national science foundation decided to call in a c-130 on skis to medevac him out of the south pole, fly about five hours to that spot right there. that's the research base on the coast. then from that point they could fly him on to new zealand. but the key was to get him down to a lower altitude, because i didn't realize this, but the south pole, the altitude at the south pole, is 9,000 feet. that's nearly double the altitude of denver, and if you add in the pressure, it can seem even higher than that. so if somebody starts to have a condition here, it's often called high altitude -- let me double check it. high altitude pulmonary edema. if you start to get a situation like that, then the problem is you have to get them down very fast, get them on oxygen and get them to sea level. that appears to be what happened. he's now in the er in christchurch. they say he has fluid in the lungs but he's responding well to antibiotics and they think he's going to be okay. of course, he is an american hero. he was on apollo 11 with neal armstrong landing on the surface of the moon in 1969 following neal armstrong down the ladder. we orch call him the second man on the moon, but that seems unfair. that he landed at the same time. he was the second one down the ladder and is still one of america's pioneers. he was still using that adventure spirit. thankfully he's okay, we're told right now. steve, back to you. >> i saw that t-shirt in the picture. it said "destination mars" so maybe he's not through traveling. >> there was a part a little more vulgar than that. the mars part is fit for television. tom costello, thank you for joining us. i appreciate that. turning to politics, president-elect donald trump hitting the road to say thank you to the voters who sent him to the white house. trump on his way now to cincinnati where he's going to hold a rally. that will come just hours after he tou he touted a deal to keep 1,000 jobs in indiana. his inauguration kicks off in 50 days. with me now, kerry burns, amy parns, senior correspondent for the hill. welcome back to both of you. amy, i ask you the politics of this. we had ali velchi on saying it is piecemeal approach to keeping jobs in the country. that may not be the biggest way to keep jobs here, but if you're the president-elect and you can go and announce that jobs are staying here, that's probably a pr win. >> it is, especially him. he's all about the facade and what's seemingly good and he's been telegraphing for a while he wants to do this. the problem is it co's coming o the backdrop of bernie sanders saying, wait a minute, if you're touting this to businesses, then all the businesses are going to get the wrong idea. i think that's going to cause a problem and that's sort of a red flag for the opposition. >> and for not even being sworn in for four years now, this could be the standard. every time there is a company talking about leaving, taking jobs down to mexico, the question is now can trump do there what he did with carrier? >> i think that's the big concern, ask this is not the conservative way of doing things. republicans were against the idea of government intervening in some of these companies. you saw that opposition to the bailout, you saw opposition going to those sorts of things. have been said all that, donald trump never really campaigned on conservative principles, right? he campaigned as someone who very much was going to change things up and he mentioned carrier specifically on the trail over and over again, so for his supporters, this is him following through on his promises. so it is a symbolic effort, and also it kind of goes to show that -- we saw this over the campaign. they didn't care about the details of it, they wanted to see something get done. so by doing this, it can kind of give him some cover to maneuver these things later. i think the broad question is what is his tax policy going to be? what can he do to make sure companies don't keep doing this without going company to company? >> 50 days away from the inauguration. everybody keeping their eyes on who trump's pick for secretary of state will be. he and romney sat down for the second time the other night. to keep an eye on a man named rex taylorson. he is ceo of mobile. he said his understanding from his source is that the romney deal would have been done by now but there was tremendous blowback internally. and that gets to the question of is trump being pulled away from romney by his loyalist saying, this guy is not one of us. >> we saw that with kellyanne conway over the weekend, and i think that's problematic for people who support trump and were anti-romney. so i think you're seeing him kind of telegraph to his supporters that he's considering other people, and this isn't a done deal yet. yeah, there obviously is a lot of turmoil going on behind the scenes and this is playing out on stage. >> here's another name. chris christie. of course, there's been all the drama behind the scenes with chris christie. this is from politico reporting, as we should say. christie interested in being the chair of the republican national committee. that might be an interesting role for chris christie because he likes the spotlight, keeps him a little bit away from the white house. that seems like a gig he would want. would trump want him there, do you think? >> what's interesting about the selection process, you think about christie, rudy giuliani, who have been there with trump, been so loyal to him, and to think they wouldn't serve in the administration, i think, is pretty interesting. for christie i think that could be a big role. whether republicans want him to be the face of the party after bridgegate, after all that's gone on with chris christie is another question. he was chair of the rga. he kind of knows the ins and outs of managing these kinds of things, fundraising and that thing, but if republicans want chris christie to be the face of the party, i'm not convinced they do at this point. >> amy, while we have you here, i do want to ask about this. you have a new book coming out about hillary clinton. you've written about her, obviously, extensively, but you have some reporting you've put out already about what happened election night. hillary clinton, of course, everybody in politics expecting her to win. she found out trump crossed 270 electoral votes and she places a call to barack obama. >> the president calls her and he basically urges her to concede. it's something the white house is pushing back on pretty strongly, but from what we've been told on by top level clinton people that this did happen. he didn't quite push her out the window, but he was basically like, come on, i think this needs to happen. she basically admits that she has to do this very early on and says okay. tells an aide, give me the phone, i'm going to call him, and does. this is basically all playing out. it's a seen that hadn't been captured. we didn't really hear much about what was going on inside the room that night. she was obviously very distraught in coming to terms with it. it was something she hadn't expected, but she came to terms with it very quickly and felt like that's what she had to do. >> did you get a sense how the actual call went with donald trump? >> apparently it went pretty well, from what we're hearing. she was very cordial, said he ran a good fight and she conceded. and so that's how it played out. it's very interesting to see how it all went down, though. everyone around hillary clinton says she always puts her country first, and she does this, and she kind of felt the need, i think, at that moment to do the right thing instead of dragging it out. people on her side kind of wanted it to go into the next morning, and they were trying to hold on as much hope as they could. we heard john pedesta in that very moment. he hadn't known the president was facing this call as he was on stage -- >> and he told them to go home, nothing to see tonight. >> right, and when he's making that big announcement in the early hours that morning, she's fielding calls from the president, he tells her what needs to be done, and that's what happened. >> there were those initial times of clinton saying you have to worry about donald trump not conceding. thanks for joining us. appreciate that. quick break here, but coming up, our most important number of the day. what you're looking at there, arrowhead stadium. thals t that is the home of the kansas city chiefs. that was taken a few years ago when there was a renovation. it reduced, actually, the number of people that could fit inside. it had something to do with the presidential race. we'll explain after this. thope to see you again soon.. whoa, whoa, i got this. just gotta get the check. almost there. i can't reach it. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? 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>> we don't have specific information. >> this is where we believe sherri was taken from. >> but investigate orinvestigat has his suspicions. as a veteran of human trafficking cases, he believes papini's has the telltale signs. >> i suspect by the types of injuries, the beegtatings, the broken nose, the cut hair, especially the chains and the branding, says that it was most likely one of these sex trafficking groups. >> reporter: they are now working with an artist as they compare her case with other states'. her healing just beginning with her family by her side. the two suspects were driving a dark-colored suv, so they've taken lots of surveillance video from the area where she was abducted. they have shown that to sherri papini to see if she recognizes any of those suvs. she has not been able to identify any of those vehicles, but that continues. steve? >> that was out of redding, california. now we're going to send you to the cnbc market rap. >> the dow hits another all time high. big news after hours, starbuck's ceo howard schultz is stepping down. the dow gaining 68 points, the s&p gaining 7, the nasdaq tumbling by 72 points. cnbc, first in business worldwide. 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