States instead. Of course, this was a major point of emphasis on the campaign trail for donald trump. Carrier, the airconditioning company that had been slated to send 2,000 jobs to mexico, trump said that if he was elected president , he would get the jobs back. After days of negotiating, trump and his Vice President elect mike pence, pence still the governor of indiana, they have hammered out a deal where carrier is announcing they will keep about half of those jobs. But donald trump says thats just the beginning. They say its not president ial to call up these massive leaders of business. I think its very president ial. If its not president ial, thats okay. Thats okay. Because i actually like doing it. But were going to have a lot of great people that can also do it and do it as well as i do it. But were going to have a lot of phone calls made to companies who are thinking about leaving this country. Theyre not going to leave this country and the workers are going to keep their jobs. They can leave from state to state, and they can negotiate good deals with the different states and all that, but leaving the country is going to be very, very difficult. Were just starting to get the details from that deal. Well dive into that in just a second, but this event that was trumps first speech since the election, his second just a few hours from now in cincinnati, ohio. That is where we find Hallie Jackson. Halley, this was more of, i guess, a policy speech. At least, that was the design in indiana, trump announcing that deal with carrier. But in cincinnati and ohio, this is a victory tour. This is another campaign speech, essentially, tonight. I would imagine. I think thats what were going to hear, right, is what weve heard from donald trump for the last six months in the general election and a year before that, which is him getting out there and getting the people who came to see him riled up and kind of feeding off that energy. Its something he enjoyed doing as a candidate. He was not somebody that had to be dragged out to rallies, and notably he was a candidate who didnt do the ton of smaller mom and pop type stops that you would see in places like iowa and new hampshire. He very rarely did the diner thing, he would pop in here and there, but it was different than the vfw candidates that would come in and visit. This was a classic trump day, you could say, given we saw a speech in the morning or early afternoon. Well see what is expected to be more of a rally atmosphere here in cincinnati tonight, and, you know, the president elect notably getting out now his first sort of podium speech since election night, and then his first rally, if you will, since before the election. Thats Hallie Jackson out there in cincinnati. Donald trump back to those mega rallies tonight, his first one since the election. Now, we want to get back on that carrier story we started on. Blake mccoy is in indiana where trump just spoke in the last hour. Hes talking to some of the workers that may be affected by this deal. Blake, the headline, there is a lot of jobs being saved here. Not all of the jobs that were on the chopping block, though. What is the reaction . Well, you have one factory here about a thousand jobs, so this is really a drop in the bucket when you look at the broader manufacturing picture of the u. S. , but this is a huge symbolic i just lost the audio. I cant hear anything. Whats going on . Okay, sounds like we lost blake mccoy there. Blake mccoy was at that rally donald trump just held in minneapolis in the last hour. Again, trump announcing that some, not all, some of the jobs that carrier had slated to move to mexico will be staying in the United States. Of course, a lot of details to this deal that were just starting to learn about, exactly what it took to get carrier to agree to leave these jobs here. What were learning so far, ali velchi, indiana is getting 7 million of tax deals. Is this a sweet deal . Yeah. Heres the thing. America creates 6,000 jobs a day, 180 jobs a month. Most new jobs are created by small and medium sized businesses, so incentives for Large Businesses are a little more optics than they are dealing with the underlying problem that manufacturing jobs have been leaving this country for 40 years. That is a secular economic problem based on the fact that we have higher wages than other countries that can create those same things for lower wages. Great example, 25 a day is it 23, 25 an hour for a carrier worker in indiana, 3 an hour for a similar worker in mexico. So we got a deal with that. Its not all wages. Sometimes its the infrastructure around it, the politics, the ability to move things around on good roads and ship them on good ports. America doesnt have to go to 3 wages. Doesnt even have to go down in wages to compete. But this is not competition because the taxpayers in indiana are now subsidizing the stuff areaier makes. Carrier is getting 7 million bucks in tax deals. 1100 jobs is whats being saved not going to mexico. Trump said in his speech, tell me if this is accurate, he said 1100 is baseline, carrier continuing to invest and that number will grow. Its hard to say. He focused on carrier and ford because he knew both those companies had some plans to t e production that was in the United States and send them to mexico. What companies do, not to get in the crosshairs of federal governments, they dont move to somewhere else, but as they expand, they build that new production in other countries, so you dont get that sense of offshoring, theyre just expanding internationally. Donald trump has focused on these two companies because they made announcements of moving offshore. But there are companies setting up new jobs all around the world. Im not sure about the baseline or not. I should be clear. For these 1100 people and their families and the businesses that will thrive because theyre there theyve got to be thrilled. This is great news, but we need to increase on the 6,000 jobs a month we create. This is just not a Sustainable Way of doing it. On the flip side, we also say its 1100 jobs that are staying, 1300 jobs still moving to mexico, and i think a lot of people would look at this from afar, and they would say, look, the company is getting all these tax breaks. Trump said he wants to save the jobs, why isnt carrier keeping all of these in the United States . Carrier is part of United Technologies, United Technologies had last year about 56 billion in revenue. Fully 10 of that revenue came from the u. S. Government. In fact, the department of defense is the single biggest customer to carrier. So you would have thought they could get this done without giving them 700,000 a year just by saying, you want to keep doing business with the u. S. Government . Keep your jobs here. That being said, that is something the Obama Administration could have tried and didnt. So were in a whole New Territory here. On one hand you give donald trump kudos for trying what he has to do to keep these jobs here, but on an economic basis, if we need to increase on that 6,000 new jobs we create every month, were going to need something a little more creative than donald trump calling up ceos and either threatening or cajoling them to stay. Some of them made a comment that it almost looked like an ad, talking about what a great, Patriotic Company they are. Is that something he could do as president , take to other companies and basically say, look, ill do an ad for you. Ill come to your facility and tell the country how great you are if you play ball with me. Its a great play. They make heaters, air conditions, many of us have them in our houses. Ford is a car you buy. Defense companies, they have to go in front of congress and look like theyre worthy recipients of taxpayer money. From a pr side of things, not falling into the crosshairs of the administration and getting them to do all of this in front of your logos actually is more than money can buy. Nbcs ali velchi, thank you. I bring in political analyst, former democratic governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell. Starting with the politics on this. Do you know what jumped out at me yesterday when we first got wind trump would be out there today . The United Steel Workers Union actually came out with a statement praising donald trump for making this happen, for getting these jobs to stay in the United States. They praised Bernie Sanders and donald trump in this statement. Are we seeing in action here why donald trump did surprisingly well in a state like yours, pennsylvania . Yeah, because he made specific promises. But as ali pointed out, this is a little bit of a farce. To keep carrier in indiana were state incentives. That 700,000 didnt have anything to do with the federal government. Donald trump didnt have to give them a tax cut. Bernie sanders said trump talked in the campaign about a damn tax he was going to place on them, instead he gave them a damn tax cut. What he could have done is threaten to take away the defense jobs, saying that they would have to pay their workers if were going to keep the workers, make them sign as part of the deal, keep the wages and benefits for the workers. They didt do that. The only thing they did, they promised they were going to take the federal income tax for corporations down from 35 to 15 . But guess what United Technologies, utc, United Technologies company paid last year in effective taxes, federal taxes . They didnt pay 35 , they didnt pay 15 , they paid 9 . So this is all a dog and pony show. The steelworkers let me ask from this standpoint, though. Youve been a governor. Youve been in situations like this. Every governor has to deal with the threat of a Company Leaving the state, maybe leaving the country. If you were governor of pennsylvania right now and you had a company like carrier looking to move a couple thousand jobs to mexico, would you look at this deal to keep half those jobs here . Absolutely. Absolutely. Theres no question i would make the deal. And we did it. More often its the state taking jobs from the state. India indiana, they moved to indiana. We put 15 million on the table so they could modernize their factory. We do that all the time. Im not faulting mike pence for doing this. He did the right thing as governor of indiana. What im saying is for donald trump to take credit for this is ludicrous. Because these were all state benefits. Nothing he did in any way. The big promise of taking the income tax rate down from 35 to 15 is meaningless to a company like utc because of all of the tax credits and tax expenditures. They only paid 9 effective rate last year, i think 10 effective rate over the last 15 years, so for donald trump to take credit for this is really ludicrous. Mike pence should have been the guy up there taking credit for it. Do you think there is something to be said, though, for the idea that if trump were to apply this model going forward, the next carrier, the next company thats talking about moving jobs somewhere, theres the tax incentive side of it, but there is also the side of it that maybe if the president of the United States makes a point that this is personally important to him, uses his bully pulpit, uses his twitter pulpit in the case of donald trump to potentially bash the company if it leaves, or conversely, to praise the company if it stays and go hold events there, is there potentially a model there where donald trump could be a more activist president who keeps jobs on these sort of case by case basises . Sure, and theres nothing wrong with doing it except for this. If you incentivize these deals to every company thinking of maybe staying, has no interest in offshoring, they just contact the white house and say, were thinking of offshoring and were taking 2,000 jobs with us, what do we do . The precedent has been set by carrier. What do you do . Theres the danger in that specifically, number one. Ask number two, as ali pointed out, and as you know, steve, we have to produce about 220,000 jobs each month in growth to save a thousand jobs. It looks good, it makes great headlines, but it doesnt make a dent. I would much rather see donald trump say any company that does business in the United States of america, if it takes workers offshore, out of the country, it doesnt qualify for government contracts. That would be something that would have a real impact across the board, not doing these run oneshot things. It doesnt make a dent in the economy when we have to produce 220,000 jobs a month, to save 1,000 jobs, not to say the worker wont have his benefits slashed, and whatever credit there is, mike pence gets the lions share of the credit in my book. Thanks for your time as always. Meanwhile, we told you at the start we are waiting for a verdict that could come any minute now in that murder trial of a South CarolinaPolice Officer who was recorded on a cell phone video shooting an africanamerican man after a traffic stop. Michael slager was charged in Walter Scotts death last spring, and up next were going to go live in charleston. The jury is deliberating there for a second straight day. Plus, the abduction mystery out in california. Police still have no suspects and no clear motive in the case of a mother jogging and found on the side of the road weeks later. They are pointing to Human Trafficking. Somemes when brushing my gums bleed. No big deal. But my hygienist said, it is a big deal. 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All of this was captured on a cell phone video. You are seeing that raight now n your screen. This case provoked enormous outcry. A verdict could come at any moment. Slager said he feared for his life. I see that barrel, like this big, coming at me. I knew i was in trouble. At that time i pulled out my firearm and i fired until the threat was stopped. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez joins me now outside that courthouse. Gabe, we were waiting, i guess the second straight day of the verdict. Any sense from the court watche watchers down there what that means, prolonged deliberations . Reporter hi there, steve, good afternoon. Within the past few minutes we do have some new information. The jury has come back and asked for transcripts of two pieces of testimony, one that Michael Slager testimony from earlier in the week that you just heard, and also from angela peterson, the lead investigator with the state. Theyre asking to look through those transcripts, so that could suggest that theyre going to really analyze his transcripts and that suggests this could drag on for at least several more hours while they look through those. Right now were wondering how long that could take. The jury got the case yesterday after closing arguments and it deliberated for about an hour yesterday. They resumed around 10 00 a. M. This morning, have been working throughout the day working through lunch. This jury is made up of 11 whites and one black man, and again, as you mentioned, Michael Slager is accused of murder. Another option is also voluntary manslaughter. So right now its in the hands of the jury, steve. All right. Gabe gutierrez down there in charleston, South Carolina. Of course, we will keep a close eye on any developments coming out of that courthouse. Coming up, frightening moments for legendary astronaut buzz aldrin. 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