Television shows the step into north korea in slow motion. Heres the president a short time later. It was an honor to be with you. It was an honor you asked me to step over that line. I am proud to have stepped over the line. It was great, very historic. After the nearly hour long meeting with kim jongun, hints at where all of this stage craft may be headed. The New York Times reporting that the administration is working on a dole that would include a Nuclear Freeze in other words accepting essentially the status quo, short of what the president promised which was full denuclearization. Richard engle is in seoul south korea. If this kind of deal were to be made the white house is pushing back a bit this morning what could it do politically . Obviously it could set the bar for a president. It is more achievable than denuclearization. As the New York Times reports this approach would not mean existing weapons are dismantled, wouldnt limit the north korea missile capacity. What could it cost the u. S. . What would kim want in return . So as you mentioned this summit happened, the impromptu summit between President Trump and kim jongun in the demilitarized zone. It was a made for tv moment. But the whole point of this, the whole point of President Trump fostering these relations with kim jongun is to lower tension and yes tensions have been lowered. Also to build trust so that a nuclear deal can be reached. Thats the idea, to get kim jongun to give up his Nuclear Weapons and to get him to give up the long range missiles that would be able to deliver those weapons to the United States. So far, kim jongun has not done that. So the question is, what kind of deal would get him to do that . And we really dont know. Trump has talked about complete denuclearization. Meaning he wants the North Koreans to get rid of not only all the weapons that they have, but to destroy their programs and have inspectors and place so that they cant rebuild the Nuclear Weapons in the future. That in hear the would be complete denuclearization getting rid of what they have, not building any more and making it verifiable. Most people who know north korea, the inspectors we have spoken to say the North Koreans simply arent going to do that. What they have been doing is they have been sort of slowing down and getting rid of some of the equipment they dont need anymore, making shows of dismantling things that are already obsolete or tee effective or destroyed. But that getting rid of the weapons that they already have would be something that the North Koreans would see as suicidal. They would lose all of their leverage. They would lose their safeguard that they believe is in place to keep their regime surviving and keep the kim dynasty in place. The New York Times article came out today and said, well, the Trump Administration might be willing to accept or would be willing to accept a compromise where you just freeze, hold on to the weapons you have, the safeguard weapons, just dont build any more. But really we dont know if that is the final position from the Trump Administration or that is just could be part of a deal. These negotiations are still pretty much in the early stages. And then the National Security adviser john bolton who pointedly wasnt at the dmz summit pushed back hard over twitter. He seemed angry, offended said the New York Times report was false and he said quote there should be consequences. Richard engle thank you. Joining the conversation former new mexico governor Bill Richardson who has extensive experience in dealing with north korea which led to his being nominated for the nobel peace prize. Nora, and eddie glouter. Ambassador, reviewing himself, President Trump said, so much has been accomplished. That was his review of the weekend. In your view, what was accomplished . Well, what was accomplished i will give him credit for this. A for showmanship. Secondly, a lessening of tensions in the peninsula. Third, its good that the two leaders, antagonists have a personal relationship, antagonist nations. But what was accomplished . Nothing. I mean kim jongun has given gotten three freebies from President Trump, three summits that make kim jongun look good, stately, a world player in his own community and in his own country. But he has done nothing, zero on denuclearization except make commitments that he doesnt keep. If it is going to be a freeze, i mean president clinton in his agreement in 1984 not a freeze from north korea. They observed it for four years and then they cheated. So the president is criticizing obama and clinton. Now they head towards this freeze which i hope is not the case because it is very weak for north korea to give up that little. Then we are right now very little substance, hardly any substance from this summit. Historic . Yeah. Good symbolism, good television, will help, probably a political plus for the president shortterm, but zero on getting something in return. Thats the way the North Koreans negotiate. They ask for a lot. They make commitments. They dont fulfill them. They want you to go first. We have gone first, and they have done nothing so far. You are one of the few people who know what it is like there, you know the players better than almost anybody. What do you think kim jongun walked away from that meeting thinking to himself, or saying to people in his close confidence . Well, what kim jongun walked away with, the same par with the president of the United States, a summit with the president. The president going to him, stepping into his territory, getting a message to the north Korean People that we are maybe going to get some sanctions relieved, sanctions have really hurt the North Koreans. And he got nothing out of the hanoi summit. So hes getting a main player on the world stage action from this summit and has given hardly anything in return, especially on Nuclear Weapons. He may have 60 Nuclear Weapons and he has given up nothing, given up nothing on missiles, given up nothing on short range missiles that threaten japan, or the United States. So hes the president gets a plus out of this, but kim jongun is the big winner. Noah, you tweeted this is another concession to north korea in exchange for nothing at all. You just heard what the ambassador said. He said there is a lessening of tensions. At least the fact that tensions are down and that they are talking, is that something noah . No, not especially. Americans can be convinced of just the value of the process, the diplomatic process alone. If you are talking you are not fighting, right . Well they might also need to be convinced what they are sacrificing in this process. The first time. We spent the last two years engaging in this regime. In the meantime they have been expanding missile facilities and building new bombs. The second is leverage. We are giving up concessions we need to hold and reserve. Things like what would follow this process would be the american president setting foot on north korean soil. Thats a gift to the regime. We are giving it up in exchange for nothing. The third is tangible, it is prestige. The american prestige is at stake we are. We are putting our prestige on the table to get north korean to negotiate and whatever deal they can make they are break. There was so much about this that was unorthodox eddie. First of all, there is a tweet that goes out and there is a scramble for what turned out to be some chaos surrounding that moment that we see, less than 24 hours later we even saw that the new press secretary for the president sort of got roughed up. Some other people got roughed up in a occur if you feel with north korean security guards. The president S National Court security adviser john bowlon wasnt each there. He was in mongolia. You know who was in the dmz as well was ivanka President Trump and jared kushner. Looking at all of those things what do you make of all of this . Chaos. I have no idea what the end game is. I think your three points are on time, the question of time, leverage and the question of prestige. All of those have been compromised. I think thats right. I am not sure what the end game is. If you want to tamp down tensions in the region i understand that. What is the role of china . Whats the role of south korea . Whats the role of japan . How are they responding to the president of the nights stepping over the dmz . I am not sure. Then there is the sense of the television optics. The television 79 toics actually trumping, no pun intended the substance of diplomacy here. What did you make of the slowmo and the movielike quality of what the North Koreans are putting out . You know, slowmo, it looked like 1980s television. It looked like donald trump, the way in which he came of age. It seemed like he was trying to convince us something substantive was happening. Lets be clear. It is in the north korean regimes interest to maintain its nuclear arsenal. They have the example of limp libya. That example looms large. If they denuclearization they know that the regime is doomed. I dont know what it means for the Trump Administration to say that denuclearization is its aim and ambition when we know that the North Koreans understand that its regimes safety is dependent on it is nuclear arsenal. We have seen the pushback from the administration about this New York Times report that a Nuclear Freeze is being considered. At this point is that the best that you think you can hope for . What do you see as a realistic end game right now . Well, what is realistic, chris, is the following. The North Koreans have 60 Nuclear Weapons, 40 to 60 missiles galore. Huge arsenal. What we want them to do is destroy some of them, with verification, curb their use, not just freeze new production. And then at the same time, the short range missiles that affect japan, that affect alaska, that affect guam, the United States potentially. Not just freeze those, but with inspections, with verification find a way to curb and destroy some of them. Now, in return the Administration Says nothing until full denuclearization, no sanctions relief. Give them some sanctions relief. Set up a stage of negotiations where over a period of years they reduce and we reduce sanctions. Thats worth the effort. A full denuclearization, full economic sanctions relief, thats not going to happen. Both sides are unrealistic. Get something done to lower tensions in the most prolifically insecure part of the world that has these knew leer weapons, these enormous tensions, countries in the region, south korea, japan threatened, as well as american shores and american soldiers. Yeah, and putting that into context, the president told kim jongun it was an honor, an honor to be there with him. Then you also have him saying, a defense of the Saudi Crown Prince at that press conference against the cias conclusion that he ordered the murder of Washington Post journalist jamal khashoggi. Have you, noah, seen any concrete evidence at all that or change in the way that people deal with this president because of the way he embraces foreign leaders . Distasteful as it might be. And i think it is diss tasteful that he fronted for the Saudi Crown Prince. He is a real player and in political terms the key to the sunni powers in the region. His work with the team in the white house and allies in egypt and jordan who educated this thaw in the region is integral to the region. I dont see a grand strategy there. I see the president engaging in political terms. I see the American Press talking about this in political terms, how is it going play with voters. Thats the wrong way to look at it. On the one hand i kind of understand the real poll teak approach to mbs. On the other hand i think it is a misrepresentation. There is a sense that the u. S. Represents itself as a moral democracy and a moral defender. To do what the president did in light of his Intelligence Community telling him that this man ordered this Washington Post reporter to be cut up by a saw is to my mind horrifying. When he was asked about it at the press conference he went on a tangent about Hillary Clinton again. Ambassador Bill Richardson thank you. It is good to speak with you. Eddie and noah you are going to stay with me. We have breaking news. Extraordinary picture out of hong kong this morning where protesters literally smashed their way into the Legislative Council building. You can see people pulling metal off the side of the building breaking glass to get inside where they confronted riot release. Bill neely is in hong kong for us. Tell me what exactly is going on. And why exactly today is such an important day for these protesters. Chris, good evening. Today is important because its usually a day of celebration, an anniversary of britains hand over of hong kong, the end of British Colonial rule. But there was no celebration today. This was a day of mass protests, of anger. This is a city in crisis. Tonight some violence. At the center, as you say, the flash point, is the main government building, where laws are passed and where beijings top official carry lamb sits over this city. Some 3,000 surrounded the building and for several hours tried to smash their way in with battering rams and hammers. They failed until about an hour and a half ago when they actually breached through the main entrance. They couldnt get much further or into the legislative chamber itself. There were riot Police Standing inside the building but the police for whatever reason made absolutely no attempt to stop this. Now, this is serious. It is not just a crisis in hong kong. This is a direct challenge to president xi. It is the biggest popular challenge to him since his rule began seven years ago. And it is a direct challenge to the communist party because what hong kong was all about 22 years ago was one country, two systems. And here they are very, very proud of the fact that they have freedom of assembly, freedom to speak, freedom to do a lot of the things a lot of people on inmaland china dont have. But they are worried that china is trying to erode those freedoms. This was all sparked by an extradition bill, something that said if you commit a offense here in hong kong whether you are a Hong Kong Chinese or a foreigner you can be flown back to Mainland China to face trial. People here to not like that bill. They do not like the chief executive carry lamb. They want her to resign. She made a public apology today once again and said i have learned the lesson. Thats not enough for these demonstrators. Most of them in their late teens and early 20s. As i said about 3,000 of them gathered around the building tonight and they are still battering away at the building. It is hard to see how exactly this standoff will end tonight. I know you will continue to watch it for us. Bill neely thank you for that. Coming up, nbc news exclusively obtaining a shocking new report. Horrible conditions at one border station that were known for months. Conditions that were reportedly so bad Border Agents feared they could lead to riots. 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