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That biden has nowed to rejoin. Other picks include the first latino, and avril hanes will be the first director of national intelligence. Michigan and pennsylvania are now moving to certify joe bidens victory at soon as today. First lelts go to the cabinet picks and what they mean. Give us the surface view a little more for us. What can we expect . I think it is particularly interesting and sbruinstructive. It is part of the world when he says america is back. He is signaling that restoring americas standing on the world stage is a primary goal. I which this was an original thought, but this could be, if you look at those six faces, what a Third Obama Administration would have been if there could have been. The deputy Homeland Security secretary and then you have john perry back in the mix here. I thought that was particularly interesting being elevated to the National Security council, it means they will confront Climate Change as a National Security issue. The National Security imperative that it truly is. And john kerry in a tweet today referenced what he called the young climate activities on this issue. Is it a policy, and do you have six competent capable controversial if you say they are trying to get past a potentially republican led senate. It is a huge deal. I wanted to find people who one, were up to the task and could do the work, but who could also get through a divided senate. One of the ways we know that is that in the announcement they paid particular attention to the fact that he was confirmed three times in his career and they hope this will be a fourth. Were also expecting more. It has more to do with the fact that joe biden realizes that having a diverse range of perspectives, a diverse range of lived experience in his cabinet will make him a better cabinet to make him a better people town vest in his presidency. They are bringing the nation together to help the country heal. A marketed difference from the majority cabinet. Jeff kennedy, thank you. They will declare definitively that joe biden won michigan and its 16 electoral votes. Nevada will certify its results tomorrow and wisconsin and arizona will come next week. But the president is not rolling with that. He is not loving on. He is tweeting his grievances at his republican governors that refuse to help him steal the election. He is hoping to play kingmaker in the next election cycle, even when he is no longer in power. He will not be in power come january 20th. Even has he once again shuffles his Legal Defense Team Throwing attorney and qanon supporter under the bus this week for being too conspiratorial. The last hope for a last hail mary pass as not come to pass. Joining me now is monica alba. Also john fedorman and garland g gilcrest. Lets start with you. We have seen a number of prominent republicans come out and say listen, its time. Business leaders, prominent leaders including supporters of the president coming out to say it is time. We have also seen the president s lawsuits fail over and over and over again. Who is it going to take to say, hey, donald trump, time to move on. I think many republicans expect it to be the Senate Majority leader. He can offer cover, very few of whom have acknowledged the reality that joe biden is the president elect at this point in time. Theyre waiting for that signal to proceed, but you did see something significant over the weekend which is an increasing number of people that had been allies in the past start to say it is time for a trap suggestion. You had kevin kramer of north dakota, including pat toomey. And that moment of transfer is extremely important and no time should be delayed. But you mentioned the issues with the president s legal team, he praised them and said he was very pleased with the performance that Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell offered. And we can report that he is very frustrated with the fact that that slap dash effort has not been impressive to him. He called it it haphazard and he asked kbreem it people why it i so strongly. They have not been able to go anywhere. Of the 36 or so cases, they have been denied, dismissed, and thrown out. They are asking what else can be done here and the options really continue to dwindle here. The harsh reality is that there is no one else that appears he can step in. He had to make baseless and conspiratorial claims over the weekend. It is true, but there is also no evidence that the president would need to overturn an election. Get the best lawyers in the World Without the evidence. You cant do anything about it. Everyone that worked on it on an electoral level says it was held free and fair. All of the courts have been saying that as well. L lieutenant government fedorman. There was a scathing dismissal. Let alone the votes of an entire state. Give us a sense of what happens now going forward, the certification process. Is it going to happen today. I would just respectfully disagree. I would not even call that a case. That was i publicly used powell was kidismissed, how was she less nutty or off of the rails than the rest of their team or arguments. Theyre trying to make an assertion that the election was rigged and there is literally zero evidence. There is two cases of kbumted voter fraud, so this idea that we need a better attorney when youre trying to argue something that is untrue is one plus one equals three is astonishing to me. So i think it is proceeding according to plan. You have major counties across all of pennsylvania. Philadelphia is coming, too. You know all of these counties are weighing in. And the bottom line is that everybody, especially from the president on down, very much knows how this movie will end, you know . The thing about hail mary passes, there has to be some time on the clock. It is utterly bizarre. You also have to hold the ball to throw the pass. The other way that the president seems to be going at this is by inviting trom nant legislatures over to the white house. The republican head of the state senate said theyre not going to overturn the will of the people, but other republicans might try to throw a wrench in things. Even if they do that in the certification process will it matter . They are meeting right now, and i expect them to certify the Election Results. Certified by all 83 counties in michigan. Theyre really trying to beta test their strategy in mississipmichigan. It is not a coincidence that they came out talking about constitutional crisis. You have to watch what theyre doing and not just the words coming out of their mouths. The people of michigan spoke decisively. Donald trump lost by more than 150,000 votes. People dont want him to be the president of the united states. This applies to pennsylvania and the rest of the country, but what do you need in your state to convince the michigan voters that dont believe the selection fair. What do you need to convince team this our system is fair . That our system works and that joe biden is the rightful president elect and the rightful president on january 20th. I dont think that donald trump or the Republican Party is capable of discontinuing their disinformation campaign. Those of us that are continuing, it is time to get to work if is time for us to step up and meet the needs of our people. That will happen in michigan, and trump can just keep lying, but he will have less of a megaphone to yell into. Beyond rhetoric there is consequences for what is happening right now without a transition, but also without Firm Leadership at the top about funding. Let me read something, Lieutenant Governor fedorman, about 600 million of road and bridge projects funded across spe pennsylvania will stop on december 1st. A veteran state senator said on monday morning. So infrastructure is a serious issue. It is one that this president held a number of weeks to honor over the four years of his administration, but infrastructure didnt go anywhere. Funding didnt really go anywhere. What do you need right now to keep pennsylvanians safe . Its important to keep the bridges in tact . Yeah, bottom line is if they want to go visit the white house, im like go, dude, its not going to change anything. We just had a coronavirus break out in the house late last week. The situation is math and reality. In terms of the infrastructure, youre trying to block the certification of the votes by the constitution. Our legislative term expires on november 30th. If they block that, which they wont, but if they did we would not have a house of riptives and half of our senate would be missing, too. So they are blocking the certification that would create the two power chambers for republicans. It is illogical and this crisis is real. It requires real leadership right now. We are continuing deny math. Math doesnt care about your fieldings. Road projects getting canceled. And they have to pander to the lunatic fringe of their party, but everyone knows that he is the president elect and it is just a matter of time. It is just a certainty at this point where were going to end up. Thank you for joining us. Same to you, we appreciate it. Coming up in just a moment, news of another promising coronavirus vaccine. How soon can we all get one . What we know plus the latest from some of the states that have been hit hardest by the most recent surge. The white houses latest efforts to stall the next administration. [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know theres a 30minute limit, right . Tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, theres progressive. 9. 95 . No way. . 9. 95 . Thats impossible. 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Its our way of saying thank you just for calling. So call now. News to be grateful for, there has been another breakthrough in the race for a coronavirus vaccine. S a astrazeneca says their vaccine could be up to 90 effective. Cases are continuing to surge across the country. There is now more than 12 million cases. That is more than the entire population. More than new york city and laegs combined. Joining me now is alison barber. Are people planning on spending the holiday with families or are they planning on staying home . What is the reason behind such long lines. You see the county coming out saying look, dont be fooled. If you get tested, that doesnt necessarily mean you dont have the virus. As you mentioned here long lines and vibes here, but what this pointing down here to is strategy. Being able to pinpoint areas of concern. So here in the san fernando valley. They can attack some 3,000 people a day, and dodger stadium, the largest testing facility in the country. Long lines there. 13,000 people a day, at the end of the day the county officials here truly believe that testing is their way out of this, a way to stop the surgeover the virus, back to you. Alison, youre in minnesota and theyre seeing a big surge in the midwest, what are you hearing . Yeah, hear in minnesota they have seen in the last couple of weeks their numbers break most records. Last week there was two days where the daily rate of new infections dropped. Hospitalizations, the death rate, they have continued to set records. Everyone we see says things are trending in a very bad direction. Not only are they worried about Services Like balanambulances b also how their hospital is taking care of people. Right now i have with me tlsmt stevens, and he not only overseas all of this in terms of what we see coming in emergency weez b wise, but they also work inside. Were seeing on paper the cases continue to go in a bad direction. Talking about where i work as an er doctor, but also spills out into our streets with the ambulances and the hospital care that we provide. The numbers are up. Were seeing responses above what were seeing here. But the acuity of the patients, theyre sicker with the breathing problems, and that is having an impact on our providers out on the street. The emts and the paramedics. On friday minnesota had 25 ambulances coming in to do interhospital transpers. Why is Something Like that necessary right now . I think the necessity of asking Something Like that is that in a disaster, an earthquake, a flood, the ability to be prepared to respond to the disaster, so that we will have time to be able to recover. One of the things that we keep in mind, when were talking about plans for converting more spaces, more beds two be used for covid19 Critical Care pishts. They also need to worry about their staff, but a plan on paper doesnt always work. They have 11 hospitals and they say last week them on covid19 symptoms. They have a lot of people and they can handle losing some of those people. Some of those hospitals in those states are a big problem. That is such a good point and you might factor into your risk valuation that you dont think youre going to get really sick from covid, but can you also say youre not going to get into a car accident, or be going out on the street. You dont adopt go to a hospital right now when theyre so short on staff. Thank you, guys. Cases are urging, hospitals are over whelmed, and many learns are not taking it very seriously. Well speak with a nurse on the front lines. Our adversaries arent waiting. The coronavirus isnt waiting. The economy isnt waiting. America shouldnt have to wait, either. The American People have spoken. The result is clear. Its time to move forward. And get to work. Snof on track to become north dakotas, it is leading for the highest kofrs mortality rate and infections are rising. It has been a nightmare scenario for nurses. They are v been asked to stave off the cost of hospital Staff Shortages. With me now is tessa johnson, president of the north dakota nurse association. Thank you very much for being here. There was a governors order that say asymptomatic nurses and staff should go to work, even if they test positive. As long as theyre asymptomatic. That caused a stir. Youre one of the people unhappy about it, tell us why. I think the most frustrating thing is that we felt we were not consulted when making that get, we felt like we should have been part of that degree. Less concentration than our children, and now nine months later if we contract the virus were welcoming the break. So if youre dealing with severe Staff Shortages in these hospitals, what is the alternative. Is it just to continue on short staffed . Does the governor have a point in seeing listen we dont really have any choice here . In my day job so to speak im a nursing administrator. You get to the point of what are we going to do. Were very fortunate and thankful for that. Were getting them trained in. But i just dont that a positive asymptomatic covid nurse can provide the safe care that our patients need. It takes people out and our bodies need to rest as well. What isle toll being taken right now on Long Term Care facilities, nursing homes. I work in longterm care. Some of my patients have not been able to see their loved ones for a twomonth period of time. Since it spiked back up late number and early fall, they have not seen their loved ones in months. Our residents change by the date and the hour. Some of our residents may not recognize family members when we come back to visit. As well as the Testing Process can be very, very draining. That is really just hard. Are they getting the message now that the numbers keep rising . I dont think so. Since our governor mandated masks about ten days ago, were seeing a lot of bushback. Members of our Legislature Still just are not taking this seriously. As nurses we spend a lot of our time pouring our hearts out and speaking to the public, educaed. And that is not just covid19. People with other conditions diabetes, heart disease, your children can fall off of their bike. They may not have hospital beds to take care of them. It is a very critical situation and we just need people to do their part and come together and take is seriously. It is real and it is a problem. Tesa johnson, thank you for joining us. We wish you good luck out there especially as the Holiday Season is upon us. Thank you. Lets brink in the doctor now who is a preb of the covid advisory board. Thank you for being here. Lets talk about what we were just discussing with tesa. People with a mask mandate still not taking it seriously. Joe biden is going to come into office and be working with all americans to try to take this seriously. There will be a number of americans and a number of lault and local leaders that dont take it seriously and are not going to, you know, uphold the rules, the laws, how do you deal with that . This is a basic hygienic psh if is like ploliticizing toilet paper. People resist, people disbelieve when other needs are not being met. The threat of coronavirus may not seem very urgent in contrast to the economic and social fallout of what the pandemic caused to the economy. So we really do need to address both at the same t

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