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dan coats, kirstjen nielsen, national security advisor john bolton and the head of u.s. cybercommand and director of the nsa each delivered stark warnings about ongoing election interference donald trump was on stage at a rally in pennsylvania calling the entire investigation into russia's effort to attack our elections a hoax. >> in helsinki, i had a great meeting with putin. we discussed everything. i had a great meeting. >> as i have said consistently, russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day. >> but i got along great with putin, and everybody said, wow, that was a great. >> the russians are looking for every opportunity regardless of party, regardless of whether or not it applies to the election to continue their pervasive efforts to undermine our
fundamental values. >> now we are being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax. >> our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. >> if i get along with vladimir putin, that's a good thing, folks. >> before a boisterous crowd of supporters donald trump painted the probe as an attack on him and his administration and claimed the inquiry was making it harder for him to get along with russia, as you just heard. all while suggesting he has been so tough on moscow that they did not actually want him to win the 2016 election. >> president putin, did you want president trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that? >> translator: yes, i did. yes, i did, because he talked about bringing the u.s.-russia relationship back to normal. >> that is the president of the united states telling you not to believe what you see with your
eyes or hear with your ears. it is almost as if there are two administrations. one led by grown-ups who are trying to protect our nation and democracy, and the other led by a man who wants to be best buds with our attacker. so the big question we're asking today is can our intelligence agencies keep our elections safe without the president's help? joining me nbc news national intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian, white house report forefor "the associated press," zwron than lamire, peter baker. they are msnbc analysts. politics reporter for "the daily beast" betsy woodruff. welcome. i want to start with anna first. she has some breaking news to bring us on the sdny investigation. i'm sorry i didn't introduce you, but you are one of our reporters here at nbc. what exactly have you learned? >> kristin davis on wednesday met with robert mueller's team. she has --
>> who is kristin davis? >> she is the manhattan madam. you'll remember when eliot spitzer went down, she claimed that she had provided prostitutes to him and became instantly famous. he has denied that. she spent four months at rikers island. i met her when she came out of rikers island. she was doing interviews at the time. she wound up running for mayor. she is quite a character. she has been working with roger stone on his political campaigns. she has done web work for him. robert mueller wants to talk to her probably about finances and following the money. >> i'm sorry. i misspoke earlier. i meant robert mueller. i said sdny. so many investigations to keep track of. how does she tie into donald trump other than roger stone? are they looking at anything specifically, any way she could have been involved in a back channel potentially? i know when mueller's investigators and prosecutors are questioning witnesses part of the line of questioning is what role did roger stone play?
was he really an advisor or was he -- or was he really not a part of the campaign because he quit very early on or was fired, depending who you talk to, or was he on informal advisor? did he maintain that role in an unofficial capacity after that? >> robert mueller right now is really building his case against roger stone. that's what we're seeing. it's sounding like they might be convening a grand jury looking specifically at him. maybe there are other unrelated charges that they are putting pressure on roger stone for other crimes that he might have committed. we really don't know. but what we do know is that he said publicly that he had reached out to wikileaks, that he was in touch with wikileaks. he is nat named but he is certainly a person in robert mueller's other indictment where he laid out this elaborate plan by russian operatives to interfere with the elections. so he is central to mueller's case. kristin davis, a long-time associate, very close friend of roger stone, godfather to her only son.
they have a very close relationship. it's not surprising that mueller wants to talk to her. >> where does the investigation stand so far as we know with mueller's team? there has been a lot of talk about maybe it wrapping up or it taking a little bit longer. there is just no real answer to that right now. do you have any idea? >> well, we are thinking maybe this is going to wrap up by labor day. we are not sure. i think either he does wrap it up and lay out charges by labor day, but we really don't know. >> we do want to get a legal question in to one of our msnbc legal reporters, danny cevallos, who is just joining us now. we rushed danny to the set for this breaking news. bear with us. danny, interviewing kristin davis, give us your insight. >> to the extent kristin davis is known as the manhattan madam, that shouldn't distract what's really interesting. she worked closely with roger stone for ten years or so, over the span of that amount of time. so to the extent she was involved and it's been reported
that she was involved in the web, maybe possibly web management or internet web page management or some form of accounting, those are areas that an investigator would find very interesting because she might know or have seen data or other information that is interesting to the special counsel. >> can i jump in here? her son was born in september 2016. so her defense in terms of getting involved in all of this, in, you know, collusion and this investigation of collusion, she is saying, look, i was heavily pregnant, not working for roger stone at this exact time. so i don't know anything about russian collusion. i think what she is more worried about is trying to get him on following the money because she did work closely with him. >> exactly. >> so this point is more to roger stone and what role he was playing? >> sure. we have seen through the manafort trial that the special counsel is not beyond -- he will not limit himself just to the russia collusion investigation. manafort's trial has virtually nothing to do with the russia
investigation other than it spawned from that investigation. in fact, that was one of the grounds that manafort had tried to have that trial, that case against him dismissed on. so it is true that the special counsel is not above branching out beyond just russian collusion in the election. >> roger stone, as far as i know at the moment, has not been interviewed by the special counsel. is that correct, or has he been interviewed in the last couple of months and has it not been reported? >> my understanding is they were closing in on him. so it was miller, sam nunberg, kristin davis, and we are waiting. >> got it. >> but they may not interview him at all if they perceive him or they classify him as a target. to be fair, that's a very fluid definition. anyone at the doj will tell you it's a very informal term. it's something defense attorneys always want to know whether you are a target, subject, or witness. if he is a target and they think that he may be charged with something, it's possible they may never ask him to testify.
>> anna schechter, danny cevallos, thank you for rushing in and sorting this out with us. let's go back to our top story. donald trump at odds with our -- with his intelligence agencies. our big question, can our intelligence agencies keep our elections safe without the president's help? back with me after that brief enter, i want to start with you, jonathan. the president yesterday, we were told by sarah huckabee sanders, was the one who told his intelligence chiefs to take the podium at the white house briefing and make those announcements. it's kind of hard to swallow that he did that if he's only hours later going to be standing on a stage in pennsylvania and decrying the whole thing as a hoax. >> and it flies in the face of what we have seen from this president before. he has repeatedly belittled the accusation that russia interfered with the 2016 election.
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relationship. that's the way it's heard in moscow. >> ken, yesterday the intel chiefs seemed bullish on their ability to protect the upcoming elections even though they couldn't confirm with 100% certainty they would be able to. privately though what are you hearing about the disconnect between the president and intel? >> great frustration, katy. i mean, look, there are things that each of these agencies can do and are doing to combat foreign election interference. the fbi has a role. the national security agency has a role. dhs has a role. they are doing what they can. but there are certain things that cannot be done without presidential authorization. one, for example, the head of the national security agency made reference to yesterday. he was asked does he have authorization from president trump to take action in cyber space, to use the cyber weapons at his disposal to go after foreign election intervention, and that means the roournussian. he said my guidance from the president and the secretary of
defense is we will not tolerate foreign meddling. that doesn't answer the question, what are you going to do about it? i mean, for example, the internet research agency, st. petersburg-based troll farm putting fake accounts on facebook, the nsa and/or u.s. cyber command could shut that down tomorrow. that was proposed during the obama administration. obama didn't want to do it. they could release embarrassing information about putin. they could do something on a classified russia network we would not hear about. it would be an unmistakable message to the russians. we don't know if that's happening. it takes donald trump to give them authorization to do that. >> it wasn't just what we saw yesterday in that stark contrast between the news conference in front of the white house reporters at the white house and what we saw with donald trump on stage at that rally in pennsylvania. he has done this repeatedly. take a listen. >> you can talk all you want about russia, which is all a,
russians involved in targeting the united states election process. now she then stepped back and said she agreed with the assessment of the intelligence community that came out in early 2017, that found that, no, this was a russian operation. this wasn't the chinese or the iranians. but the president himself has put some of his intelligence chief, particularly neilsen, in the uncomfortable position of finding themselves on the verge of contradicting themselves regarding these matters. the reality is that it's very possible for people in the intelligence community and in the defense space to act without necessarily matching the president's rhetoric. we see this recently from the pentagon. the pentagon released $200 million to the ukrainians to support their military and defense two weeks ago. that's something that very much would not have been matching the rhetor rhetoric that president trump has been using regarding putin. there are lots of steps that can be taken, in many cases taken quietly. as long as the president is public publicly saying the
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>> well, you have said july 4th is when you expect to have a decision on whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel. why are you dragging it out? don't you know what you want to do? >> sure, i don't want to do it. >> do you think the president might change his mind? >> the president wants to do it. >> you said the fourth of july was basically a deadline of sorts for you to determine whether or not you would recommend president trump sit down with robert mueller. it is now past the fourth of july. where do we stand? >> well, i think we're pretty much decided where we are and we await the decision of the independent counsel. we would not recommend an interview for the president unless they can satisfy us that there is some basis for this investigation. we haven't made a final decision. there is still a slight opening. >> joining me, former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york john flannery. he also served as special counsel to the senate judiciary committee. i feel like i'm living in just a
perpetual version of that song, you spin me right round, baby, like a record, baby, et cetera. >> yes. the check is in the mail. he will do anything to get a red light on a camera in front of his face and promise us nothing and deliver little. i think he uses it as a way to posture his attacks on mueller and the investigation. sometimes he says mueller, he is a good person except he has these people giving him bad advice, like mueller is not a supreme lawyer who can do things that rudy has never done in his life, in my opinion. >> so is rudy giuliani just, i mean does he not know what he is doing? >> he does not know. >> okay. >> no, he doesn't know. let me give you a good example. lanny davis sort of gave us instruction. lanny davis sends the tape of the trump/cohn thing and it's privileged at that time. rudy is so anxious to talk about
it, he takes it out and removes the privilege to talk about it and then he doesn't do it very competently. so i think mueller can manipulate this fellow as well. >> you don't think they were worried? there was some speculation that the president's team was worried about the crime fraud exception in that case with the tape. they didn't want the judge or the special master to rule this tape was fair game because of the crime fraud exception, and then they would have on the record that this tape could be evidence of crime or fraud. >> well, you know, that's tough i thought of the special master. i moe barbara jones, who is the special master on this. ask yourself, when there is this conversation, how do you know from the conversation that it is part of a crime and, therefore, the crime fraud exception doesn't apply? they never should have removed the privilege in the first place because it would have protected them in court and perhaps in impeachment proceedings and other things. i think rudy giuliani was so anxious to say something about
it that lanny sort of knew that about him and he did what a real lawyer shouldn't do, which was talk about the case and give information that otherwise would have been protected. >> what about mueller seeming to accept some preconditions for an interview with the president? >> mueller always has in reserve the impeachment -- not the impeachment, but the subpoena question. here is the thing. i think that mueller has so honed down what he needs to know that he probably has six questions he could ask in the neighborhood of the obstruction of justice. if he got answers to those after chasing mr. trump, if he appeared for an hour or so, he'd have all he needs. the obstruction has been so visible and in the public, whether it be tweets or bogus letters on june the 9th or the statement in july about send those emails that it's very difficult i think for trump to hide from his own statements. he's been writing the
obstruction case since he fired comey, if not before that. so mr. trump is, well, used to say as a white collar prosecutor you don't catch the geniuses. see trump. >> john flannery, thank you so much nfor joining us. next up, roger stone reveals paul manafort's closet. and the government wants to out source reuniting families. yes, this is real life. metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too. mbc doesn't take a day off, and neither will i. and i treat my mbc with new everyday verzenio- the only one of its kind that can be taken every day. in fact, verzenio is a cdk4 & 6 inhibitor for postmenopausal women with hr+, her2- mbc, approved, with hormonal therapy, as an everyday treatment for a relentless disease.
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meant it was good. he wore $6,500 suits that didn't fit him. yeah. trump's former campaign chairman face as litany of financial crime charges, all of which he denies. prosecutors say they are ahead of schedule. good news to judge ellis. and they expect to rest their case next week. today they put paul manafort's tax accountant back on the stand. joining me from outside the contract house in alexandria, national security and justice reporter julia ainsley and former federal prosecutor glen kirschner. jew julia, what's the latest? >> reporter: when i tend out there have been 30 minutes of testimony of another tax preparer. someone who took over the tax returns from another person who retired. she came in as the bottom was really falling out financially for paul manafort. this was around 2014-2015. what is clear is that the prosecution is establishing a pattern. everything she says alliance
with what her predecessor said. it alliance with what this bookkeeper said yesterday. paul manafort was in the clear business of trying to hide his foreign bank accounts and trying to use fraudulent financial information in order to secure loans, making it look like he was in better financial standing than he really was. part of the defense's argument has been wouldn't a tax preparer have a lot of this information? didn't paul manafort give them a lot of breadcrumbs that would have led them to figure out he had foreign bank accounts if they had really been concerned? but we've seen a lot of bullets in that argument today because she is saying we didn't ask for all of that information. we were just there to prepare the forms. >> and paul manafort's attorneys are also trying to argue that he wasn't really paying close attention, that rick gates was handling a lot of this for him. glen, what do you make of the defense argument so far? >> reporter: katy, you know, you can argue that paul manafort perhaps wasn't paying a lot of
attention to his financial dealings and his -- the paperwork being filed on his behalf. you can bet he was paying a lot of attention his seven homes, waterfall ponds, putting greens, ostrich coats. it really is, i think, beyond belief for the average juror that somebody who lives that lifestyle, and as i have called it paul manafort's lifestyle seemed to be where opulence meets arrogance. living that kind of a lifestyle, i would suggest it's impossible to believe that, geez, i don't know where the money is coming from. i don't know what i should be paying in taxes. it sounds like from reporting earlier today even the tax preparers were saying, we were asking him for information about whether he had overseas bank accounts and he was either stonewalling or telling us, you know what? let's not worry about that. this is a very strong case on the evidence. as a career prosecutor, when cases are really strong, we would often call them sort of
long/slow guilty pleas, which is what i think we see unfolding across the river in alexandria. >> i was talking to a source close to manafort and i asked them why paul manafort refused to make a plea deal, and the person told me that manafort's lawyers told manafort that he was innocent, that this was not a strong case, and that they would get him off and manafort was begin winly surprised when he went to jail before the trial for allegedly tampering with witnesses. why would a defense tell a defendant that the case is strong, if i take this source's word for it, when you see the prosecution lay out what you called a slow guilty plea or a slow plea deal? >> i actually question that information and that recitation of events because typically defense attorneys will not give
that kind of advice or counsel to their clients because it's a recipe for the client, once convicted, to turn around and claim ineffective assistance of counsel, which is a way to undo somebody's conviction. i actually think there are other reasons that paul manafort didn't plead guilty. i think the two leading reasons are, one, bob mueller may have never offered him a deal, a cooperation deal, or a guilty plea deal. here's why. bob mueller already had rig gates. it seems like a lot of the information that paul manafort could provide is duplicative of what rick gates has already provided. why would you want to do business with somebody like manafort, who is also charged with tampering with witnesses when, instead, you can do business with gates? >> good point. glen kirschner, julia ainsley, thank you very much. it has been a full week since the court ordered deadline to reunite migrant families. nearly 600 children are still in
the custody of hhs. the majority were accept rat-- separated from parents already departed. advocacy groups like the aclu, they say, should find the parents. attorneys for the aclu responded to the administration saying it was attempting to avoid its ponce blts by passing its work off to private groups. let's bring in jacob soboroff, who has been following this story. what's going on? the government wants the aclu to do the dirty work? >> think about what you said. the government is asking can -- the trump administration is asking ngos and the aclu through the court to take on responsibility for finding the missing parents, which begs the question, why are the parents missing in the first place? the answer to that question is because the government separated them from their children. so the government who separated these kids, 2,551 total, now 572 left, in u.s. government custody months after they were taken
from their parents is now saying, essentially, put your money where your mouth is, aclu. if you want them reunited so bad, you do it. >> is this government admitting they don't have the resources or capabilities to find these parents? >> well, what the aclu says -- how could the government say this? this is the united states government with unlimited supply of money. the resources in terms of manpower in order to dedicate these people across hhs and the department of justice and the department of homeland security to track down these folks. what really i think it is is the government admitting we never kept track of this, these parents in the first place. we are having a really hard time figuring out why they are, so, hey, aclu, since you are the ones suing us and you think that they need to be reunified, you take the lead and we will provide supporting documentation, you know, in order to help you guys out. >> jacob, i am not sure if you are following this, but this woman, this pregnant woman who
has just been deported by the united states saying that they are breaking her family apart. she entered the u.s. illegally 39 years ago. sorry. 20 years ago from mexico. she has been married to a u.s. veteran. she pleaded with the government to let her stay. as she left, it's reported that she said of president trump, may god forgive you. let's listen to a little bit of her. >> and they are breaking my family apart. they don't care that he served his country three times. so before you enlist in the military, think twice. before you mary ann immigrant, think twice. think if it's really worth it for you to serve this country because look how they treated me. if you say you love the military, this is the message
that you are sending to the military. 11,000 military family members are going through what i'm going through. 11,000, okay? it's not just alejandra juarez. do you think the loves the military? do you think the loves the military by deporting me? what message is he sending. >> i misspoke. she is not pregnant, but has two daughters born in the u.s. >> it's tough to watch. the reality is, this is another zero tolerance casualty. the trump administration is putting people into deportation proceedings that historically wouldn't have been put into deportation proceedings. this woman has been here for decades. she checked in with the government. immigration and customs enforcement trying to get her status to become legal, even though she entered the country illegally. there is this function of immigration rules called parole in place that military spouses can go through. the trump administration denied it after members of congress petitioned the administration, after she personally petitioned
the administration. the kicker in this whole thing, katy, is that that woman's husband supports donald trump. >> what's interesting. we heard those stories over and over again. people thought when donald trump said he was going to deport undocumented immigrants, he was going to deport the dangerous ones, not their friends, neighbors, wives, husband. >> military members as well. >> jacob soakoff, thank you very much. and next, give us a break. people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? (vo) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? (vo) a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. oh! no increased risk? ♪ ozempic®! ♪ ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes,
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fake news. despite only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there. even these people back here, these horrible horrendous people, even these people back there say, look, it looks like the academy awards there are so many. you ever see this? they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >> yeah, we get it. you don't like us. fine. but do you have to put our lives in danger? the president continues to call the press the enemy of the people. even after four journalists and one sales assistant were shot dead in a maryland newsroom by a man who was angry with what they factually reported about him. even after the publisher of "the new york times" stressed to him in a private conversation that his words were putting
journalists in mortal danger. even after cnn white house reporter jim acosta was taunted in a rally the other night in florida. and even after the president's own daughter, at least publicly, disagreed with her dad. >> do you think that we're the enemy of the people? >> sorry? >> do you think the media is the enemy of the people? >> no, i do not. >> good. i'm glad someone in the administration said this outloud with a camera recording. i ophope she implores him to to it down. either he gets the problem or he does not care. sadly, the harassment and threats are not stopping. journalists get them every day. we have been getting them since the campaign when then-candidate trump urged the crowd to yell and scream at us. but what you saw and still see on tv, those boos and taunts are only part of it. what you do not see are the nasty letters or packages or
emails, the threats of physical violence. i hope you get raped and killed, one person wrote to me just this week. raped and killed. not just me, but a couple of my f female collies, as well. in case you want to argue this has nothing to do with the president, the most recent note i got ended with maga. so if anyone in the administration cares about the safety and security of journalists, the health of a free and unintimidated press and, by extension, our democracy as a whole, please say something to your boss, to your dad, to your commander in chief before it is too late. obviously, i am not talking to you, sarah huckabee sanders. you made it clear where you stand yesterday. >> it's ironic, jim, that not only you and the media attack the president for his rhetoric when they frequently lower the level of conversation in this country repeatedly, repeatedly.
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president trump has a chummy relationship with the national enquirer and its owner, david pecker, but "the daily beast" has a new exclusive that suggests that relationship is changing. pecker made a conscious decision to pull back on his pro-trump coverage just as his media empire found itself increasingly embroiled in trump world's legal woes. as pecker and his team were distancing themselves from trump publicly, a more surreptitious effort was under way to cleanse the public record of details of pecker's involvement in the karen mcdougal scandal and the ami boss's relationship with the president. joining me now is "daily beast" white house reporter. this is your story. why is pecker suddenly deciding or ami deciding they don't want to be so close to president trump? >> well, at the very least it's sort of a public relations play, at least to not seem as "the national enquirer" david pecker's flagship tabloid, has
been for several years now, to at least not seem like an overt mouthpiece for team trump and the trump presidency. look, i'm not at all saying that david pecker is completely severing his friendship and close personal relationship to president donald trump, but there have been conspicuous actions taken publicly, which as you pointed out earlier in the segment, includes the conscious effort from team pecker to scale back the coverage in the pages of "the national enquirer" shortly after the raid of michael cohen. >> can you conclude that they're worried about their exposure, legal exposure? >> that might not directly have anything to do with what's appearing on the tabloid cover today. but they certainly are worried about their legal exposure going back to what happened a few months ago when pecker and other top executives at ami were subpoenaed given the involvement
of the tabloid in the scandal involving mr. cohen, mr. trump, and karen mcdougal. >> i wonder if they have made it worse. look at this cover that we have up right now from a few months ago when michael cohen was raided. trump fixer's secrets and lies. it was widely believed in the trump/cohen world at the time this came out that that was a very clear symbol -- signal, excuse me, from team trump to michael cohen that they're cutting him loose. >> right. also if you actually read that piece in "the national enquirer" it's all about documenting michael cohen's various scandals and outrages, not just the stuff that has to do with karen mcdougal and as they very briefly acknowledge in that piece, "the enquirer" itself was used as a pro trump tool in that whole affair. but if you turn the page in that issue, and i don't know if you're as hard core reader of "the national enquirer" as i am -- >> only when i'm at a
supermarket using my i.d. to buy milk. >> if you turn the page, the next story is about an ad hoc lie examination or professional analysis that "the national enquirer" undertook to absolve president trump via his public statements and an ad hoc lie detector of any russian collusion. so in a whole cover story spent throwing michael cohen under the bus, the very next page is a piece quickly absolving donald trump of any wrongdoing. >> telling. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. next, united britain great england kingdom. tter things than psoriatic arthritis. as you and your rheumatologist consider treatments, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for psoriatic arthritis. taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections,
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one more thing before we go. geography matters. >> i have great respect for the uk, united kingdom, great respect. people call it britain, they call it great britain, they used to call it england, different parts. >> well, they still call it england because england is still a country. if you want us to draw you a picture, brilliant maps did. you can see right there, bottom right, england. the yellow outline, that is great britain. the red outline right there, that is the united kingdom. and for blanks and giggles, that blue outline, that's the british isles. one more thing. >> so here was the story by the
fake news. the president was 15 minutes late for the queen. wrong. and then here's the rest of the story. no, here's the rest. here's the rest of the story. so they said i was late when i was actually early. >> fact check, true, if it was opposite day. and one more thing, technically, and this is only one of those pesky royal traditions and signs of respect, but you're not technically supposed to turn your back on the queen. there you have it. your little lesson in decorum in england, the uk, great britain, whatever it's called. peter alexander picks things up right now. hi, peter. >> the queen of cable tv, katy tur, we thank you. >> that's andrea mitchell, my friend. >> we'll call you the princess, then. kae t good afternoon, i'm peter alexander in for ali velshi. we begin with breaking news on

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