Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Kate Snow 20151211 :

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Kate Snow 20151211



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(friends ooh and ahh) i believe that gravity brings i can make hospitals run more efficiently... both of those campaigns down. this isn't a competition! >> today donald trump sending out a tweet daring cruz to attack him saying, quote, i hope so. he'll like all others. will be easy. prompted the texas senator to back down writing, quote, the establishment's only hope, me and trump in a cage match. sorry to disappoint. donald trump is terrific. #deal with it. >> a lot of back and forth and ted cruz saying, hey, hey, hey. this is not going to be a foigt. >> what a smart tweet that was, kate. that did a couple of things, immediately put to rest any kind of a war between donald trump and ted cruz, at least from cruz's perspective. number two, it got in a nice compliment to trump and trump can't come out and say cruz continued to attack him and trump take that is audio recording as a first punch of ted cruz. cruz has some cover from that tweet saying, hey, i like donald trump #deal with it and cruz got in a jab at his favorite target which is the establishment. kate, i think in some ways the cruz campaign is correct in get up to 48 monthsw interest-free financing assessing that if trump and cruz were to go at it, it only stands on tempur-pedic, save $300 on beautyrest and posturepedic, to benefit candidates like rubio to sit back, watch them fight or choose $300 in free gifts with stearns & foster. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train. and continue his candidacy. >> we mentioned the new polls and anxiety over terrorism seems first come, first served basis to be helping trump the most. >> look at this. and no reasonable offer is refused! the new numbers out from "the new york times"/cbs poll showing you'll love your new future steel building. donald trump 40% of people are very confident. 31% somewhat confident in his ability to handle terrorism. but i want you to look at who's number two right there. ted cruz right behind him down ten points in the confident category and up there in somewhat confident. that is more forceful rhetoric with how to fight isis, carpet bomb them, so hard that the sand will glow essentially. so cruz understands and is seeing that being tough on terror is politically beneficial at this point. and it also is a way to talk about some of the >> after the sacrifice that our accomplishments or the achievements he's racked up that first responders made -- he can point to in his view >> boring! the media won't pay attention to coming to what he's done on the anything. senate side with pollty it won't pay attention to anything at all unless you are differences between himself and donald trump. >> these 9/11 first trump. >> halley out west today, thanks so much. responders -- let me tell you ted cruz starting to see the something, hey, these 9/11 first republican's party evangelical wing coa les around him, joining responders are the most top notch, diamond-encrusted hero me, msnbc political reporter america can produce. benji sarlin. kind of a good week for cruz on if i'm elected -- and i will be a friday. >> racking up endorsements and a elected -- i will build a wall around politics and i will make lot of ways everything is going politics pay for it. >> okay, that was jon stewart cruz's ways and the race is so making a rare appearance on late fluid and dark clouds hovering night with stephen colbert, around things. >> he got the three key wearing a big to look like endorsements in iowa. donald trump and the orange was supposed to be makeup. but sometimes past evangelical you have to watch the whole clip, but he was there to pressure congress to have champions, huckabee, santo couple, they had a hard time congress renew health care benefits for 9/11 first transitioning success to new responders. moments ago in an interview hampshire. >> iowans pick corn, new hampshire picks presidents. this is one of the main reasons. they have different electorates politico responded vowing to and they've condensed and new pass the bill. hampshire is much less religion anthony flammia, 9/11 first responder and director of community outreach at the feel and we see how that could happen. donald trump is leading the good foundation. thanks for being here. polls. not an overtly religious figure >> thank you. and on behalf of the feel good for the most part and tapping foundation and the entire 9/11 into a different base and there's also the more relatively establishment republicans responder community, we thank competing fiercely and camping out in that state alone like chris christie, john kasich and you. >> appreciate that. this has been going on for years. jeb bush really to present a you were with jon stewart, walking the halls, trying to get problem. now i was in new hampshire with people's attention. ted cruz and his campaign just >> yes. what does it feel like to have to do that? recently. they have a lot of confidence >> jon stewart was our champion. and we're in a good place right that their ability to organize now. the grassroots gives them a you know, we're not celebrating, this is not a done deal. listen, we're dealing with chance. >> ted cruz has money, a lot of money. congress let this bill expire. this cycle raised $65 million. 25 million from the campaign, 38 we're monitoring the progress of our leadership. million outside groups. we're standing with responders does that make a difference? right now, if we have to go back i mean, that's maybe different than santorum or huckabee. to d.c. we will. >> absolutely. we received information on an santorum raised little money and hour by hour basis. he has an angel investor. the negotiations are in their cruz is much more extensive with hands and i'm hoping they do the a big small donor fund-raising right thing. we heard senator mcconnell telling politico it will be done efforts and millionaires with by the end of the year, which incredible amounts of money they've told you before, i behind him. think. do you believe you'll get this he has that combination. some candidates have one or the money refunded -- or get the other. he has both. that could give him the chance program funded again? >> i smile and i say, yeah, to go the distance, especially okay. in southern states and cruz it's -- i'll be happy when it's feels like he has a chance to do signed, sealed and delivered to damage and make a difference. us. the devil is always in the >> benjy, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. details. upon. >> you were saying you feel while ted krus gained some momentum, he's not the only one insulted? in the headlines today. >> i feel insulted. a candidate's all-in focus on i have to come to manhattan in the middle of the christmas new hampshire appears to be season, it's beautiful to see paying dividends. for more on that, steve the tree, but i have to travel kornacki. steve? >> kate. down here once again to tell our that's right. here's a name you maybe forgot story, what we're doing and what we're going through. about but he is back at least i've been traveling to new hampshire. chris christie. washington for seven years with it's interesting. all these six responders and you know you lost his spot on it's disgusting we have to do the debate stage because the poll numbers so low just last this. >> what people may not month and in this new poll out understand exactly what happened in new hampshire this morning, to you on 9/11 and why this is donald trump in first place, so important to you. that's the headline. can you give us a sense for why look whou's in second place. this money matters to you and chris christie. your family? he is at 12% in new hampshire. >> the world trade center doubled his support in this monitoring program put me back into shape. poll. from just a few weeks ago. i suffered from numerous he was down at just 2% in new injuries, reactive airway hampshire. a couple months ago, what happened? disease, sign sightis and chris christie basically camped out in new hampshire. he's done the traditional new hampshire strategy of town halls, one on one meetings with post-traumatic stress. the program put me back to the voters, had a few good almost where i was. there's a lot of responders that moments that way and also picked up the endorsement of the need this program, that have the biggest newspaper in the state, cancer, that need the treatment, a very conservative newspaper, that need everything to keep the manchester union leader. them going. it's a life-saving measure that he is their candidate and they have to come through and do christie creeping up in new it. >> you had one of the toughest hampshire. what has that done for chris jobs that i've heard of on 9/11. christie? next week when that next you were dealing with bodies, republican debate takes place, you were running people to the he'll no longer be at the so-called kids table. back on the main stage. morgue, right? >> yes. i was assigned to the nypd they changed the rules after the last debate. if you get over a certain highway patrol unit, a city-wide threshold in iowa, new unit that covered the city of hampshire, you can also get on new york, and we responded that the stage. so christie because he's doing so well in new hampshire now on day, to provide the care that we the stage. could do, what we could do on the other thing this poll means, the street and also we dealt though, look at this. with families of the police rand paul, rand paul right now officers that were killed and looks like he may be booted off of the main stage. his poll numbers not high enough also the firefighters and i did a lot of those escorts, a lot of nationally or iowa and not high bereavement stuff and the enough in new hampshire so it remains to the morg. >> do you think if mitch could be that chris christie on mcconnell is true to his word the main stage next week and and this will be funded again by rand paul is nowhere to be seen, the end of the year, do you kate. think that's because of jon >> a switch. stewart? do you think it would have we had chris christie at the non happened without jon stewart? main stage. >> jon stewart's our champion. >> that's right. >> steve, thanks so much. let's dig in now on where and he did help the first time support for donald trump is coming from. on the five-year bill and he's our new nbc/"wall street helping now. just a continued push. journal" poll finds 25% of americans agree with donald we're right to the end on this. trump's call for a temporary ban on foreign-born muslims entering people in congress are the the country and the number rises narrators. we're writing our own story to 42% asking republicans. right now. in new hampshire last night, trump defended that proposal and it's just, it has to be saying americans can't be done. >> anthony flammia, best of luck blinded by political correctness. to you. >> thank you. >> we've got to get down to the coming up, it's a national crisis. tens of thousands of babies born problems. we can't worry about being politically correct. addicted to opioid drugs, but we just can't afford anymore to now a new program providing be so politically correct. hope. stay with us. [ applause ] >> joining me now, senior editor at msnbc.com, beth fooey with us. thank you for being here and breaking it down with us. let's talk about these numbers that we're looking at out of our polling yesterday. massive divide on the muslim band, first of all. which maybe isn't that surprising. >> yeah. well, republicans definitely are more open to it than democrats are. even independents. we are seeing this, of course, kate through the prism of trump voters and they have been among the most nervous expressing nervousness of national security and economic anxiety, too, that's another thing that trump is tapping into. >> one thing that fascinated me breaking the break down this morning was the rural versus urban. i guess it's not surprising and donald trump drawing rural and suburban voters. >> that's the trend. republicans are the voters of urban areas. trump's especially are voters of urban voters even others of republicans. >> what about the gender gap that we're noticing on donald trump? >> well, donald trump has never been a favorite of the ladies. put it that way. again, republicans are more -- it's a more male dominated party. women more likely to vote democratic, of course. within the party, trump has had extra work to do to appeal to women than carson for a while candidate winning more support of women compared to trump and now he's fading, women are looking around. >> looking at trump's comments also on -- it was his -- are his comments frequently insulting, women 46% say yes. men 36%. which goes along with what you're saying. >> exactly. his style is offputting for many women. >> i want to play sound of trump supporters, these are forecasts out on the campaign trail. >> who's cutting off people's heads in who's bombing buildings? who's bombing airplanes? not the christians. not jewish. not the buddhist. it's muslims. you got that on camera, sport? >> because he's -- i followed him for a listening time. i think he's a strong, gutsy leaders that says what he means. i think he's clarified it a bit so far after that initial statement. >> so i don't know the age of those two men but they happen to look -- first one looked at least a little bit older. he has older voters supporting trump. >> older voters, rural, voters with a lot less education and trump supporters, college educated republicans are not really with trump. he gets mostly people with less division and the rural, white, less educated men are trump's major supporters. >> "wall street journal" put it donald trump is a guy's guy. >> he's a guy's guy. >> thank you. >> so if you followed me for a controversial comments of the bench. we have audio tape of what while, you know that one of the supreme court justice scalia things i care about and report about is drug addiction, and said in oral arguments this week of black college students. particularly the heroin epidemic that's coming up next. this country is in the middle of right now. every 19 minutes a baby is born in the united states addicted to opioid drugs. that means, since this show began, two babies have been born addicted. back in 2012, i visited a hospital in virginia where doctors were overwhelmed by the number of babies being born addicted to drugs. it's hard to watch the babies suffering, it's harder to see it in person. but now that hospital has a new program to help those babies survive and thrive. cynthia mcfadden recently visited there for an investigation in conjunction with reuters. >> reporter: katie gooding, 26 years old and the mother of two, may look like the girl next door, but she's also the new face of heroin addiction in america. last year, six months pregnant and trying to stay sober, she relapsed back into heroin. her baby, kennedy, was born premature and hooked on drugs. >> i felt like i was a terrible mother for putting her through they come into this iworld ugly and messy. that. >> reporter: born at cable huntington in west virginia, they placed her in a new unit going through withdrawal. ideas are frightening because they threaten what is known. >> 14% of all babies who are delivered at our hospital in the they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. year 2014 were exposed to drugs. it's an astronomical number. >> the most innocent victims of the country's opioid academic. it's hard to watch. for too long we have looked away. >> it can be frustrating, yes, ideas are scary, because you do everything and they're still uncomfortable. and messy >> reporter: so recently they created lily's place, to wean and fragile. the babies off drugs and help but under the proper care, monitor and educate their they become something beautiful. mothers. they offered her entrance if she signed kennedy over at least temporari temporarily. if they both successfully completed the program, katie would get her daughter back. >> it was really hard. i cried for a long time. >> reporter: it's a tough love approach that lacy frazier wishes she'd gone through four years ago when her daughter was born. >> sometimes when i wake up in the morning, i think that she's laying beside me and then it takes me a little bit to realize that it's my blanket balled up. it's not her and where i'm at, she's gone. >> jasey died at six months old. prosecutors said her mother mistakenly gave her methadone. she's serving 15 years in prison. . jasey's life may have been saved if south carolina had followed a 12-year-old federal law. it requires states to identify and protect babies like her after they're sent home. >> did anyone ever come and see you when you got out of the hospital? >> no, ma'am. >> was there a safe baby plan when you left the hospital? >> just have a nice life. >> reporter: despite the federal law, reuters and nbc identified 110 cases in the last five years where babies whose mothers used drugs during pregnancy died the supreme court released audio of this week's key preventable deaths after being sent home. >> the federal legislation was affirmative action case arguments involving the passed 12 years ago and here we university of texas. it gives us a chance to hear exactly what justice scalia said sit and it isn't being enforced. that has caused some controversy >> right. now we have this epidemic and this week. the system is failing us at we'll dissect it with pete every level, and it doesn't need williams, also with us, mbs to be that way. nbc's steve kornacki and ari >> west virginia is proving that. >> and cynthia mcfadden is here melber. pete? with me. this 2003 law that you just >> first of all, a couple of notes. number one, the supreme court referenced, what exactly was it releases the audio on all argued supposed to do and why is it not cases every friday so this is working? not unoushl to release the audio >> well, the idea was that when but here's the context. a baby was born drug addicted, this is a challenge to that should pull the attention affirmative action at the university of texas at austin. of everybody. the idea was, that the hospital the school has a somewhat had to report to child protective services that this unusual program. it admits roughly the 10% of any child was born addicted to drugs and that should channel a safe baby plan, not to prosecute the high school graduate in the state and then three quarters of mother, but to make sure that the baby when they went home was the fresh men for the rest of the quarter of the class they in fact safe. >> and you said 110 cases, we use race as one factor in trying to get more diversity, what they saw baby pictures floating by -- >> that's cases where the babies call holistic review of the students. died later because nobody -- in justice scalia said in a most cases because no social colloquy with the university's services were actually involved. lawyer he asked whether using affirmative action actually only nine have fallen under might do a disservice to some federal law, it's shocking and minority students. here's what he said. yet there's no effect. what they could do is pull >> there are those who contend that it does not benefit federal funding, if states aren't following this law, they african-americans to get them into the university of texas could pull federal funding and where they do not do well as make them follow the law. >> i've spoken to women who say opposed to having them go to a they're afraid if they go see a doctor that maybe that means less advanced school, a less -- their baby will be taken away. there's this fear of child a slower track school where they protective services. is that part of this too? do well. >> well, i'm not so sure, one of the briefs pointed out because this doesn't really that most of the -- m

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