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A member of the House Intelligence Committee joining us on a busy morning. Were on the ground in ukraine and covering both ends of pennsylvania avenue. Bill neely, tom costello, Kelly Odonnell at the white house and Garrett Haake is on capitol hill. This isnt the first time well hear from the state department about what pompeo doing because the state Department Said he spoke with ukraines president to express his condolences. What else are they saying . Yes, thats right, mike pompeo offered the full support of the United States in the investigation. And within the last hour president zelensky of ukraine has said hes very grateful for that support. And that any information the u. S. Has to offer will be useful in the investigation. He has also called on the u. S. To release all the information that it might have. He did meet this afternoon just a couple of hours ago with the main top u. S. Diplomat here in kiev and the Ukrainian Foreign minister said after that meeting that data had been released by the u. S. But there was no detail on what that was. President zelensky said at the minute the missile theory cannot be ruled out. But it can be not confirmed. Now, ukraine of course is central to this investigation and it is the country that has 45 experts on the ground in tehran. Some of whom worked on to mh17 investigation but not clear what access they have to the wreckage. Whether they are in any way involved in the opening up of the black box flight recorder data because this afternoon, in tehran, iran said that it was beginning that process of opening up the information in the black boxes. Whether it will be able to do that or not, we simply dont know. Bill neely, live for us there in kiev. Tom costello, youre tracking this with your sources so what are you hearing . Well, theres concern about whether iran first of all might have a its own motivation for analyzing the black boxes and before outside western experts are along with iranian investigators looking at the black box data and there is great concern about the current state of the wreckage site, debris field. Theres reporting suggesting that if not all of that debris field had been moved or in some way tampered with. Thats concerning to say, listen, you come into the crash scene, you preserve the crash scene. You want to document every single piece of wreckage and piece of debris. Looking for any signs at all of what might have caused this crash or in this case looking for any signs of a missile strike. But if its true then iran has in any way moved parts of that debris field and that obviously compromises the scene. Investigators if it were a pure factual investigation in the United States, in europe, then they would be looking at the scene and then the black boxes. They want to hear what the pilots said to each other back and forth. Were they talking about a missile or a sudden external explosion . Were they in a panic wondering why they had lost all of the systems and lets talk about the systems, the flight data recorder should have captured the moment of impact of a potential missile in that both engines would have immediately shut down and all comes would have lost. All of that is pristine and the question is whether thats been compromised. Ntsb is not on the scene and has not yet accepted formally the invitation to be a party to the investigation. Tom costello, with that great reporting. Kelly odonnell, all of this is another Pressure Point on the relationship between the u. S. And iran and thats something well hear about from the secretary of state when he ends up in that building behind you in just about 40 minutes from now. What are we expecting . Well, just off the lectern, clear out the cobwebs of the Briefing Room because for the first time in the new year and for first time in a long time well have a briefing from the Briefing Room with the secretary of state and the secretary of treasury. And clearly, the intersection of the tragedy and the investigation that tom was just talking about is also a diplomatic issue for the United States at a time when the u. S. And iran are in heightened tensions and there have been questions about the measuring stick of escalation deescalatation in the conflict and how does the u. S. Aircraft under the brand of the Ukrainian Airline how does that factor in here in terms of the trustworthiness of iran, the cooperation on the International Level and beyond that there are serious questions to ask about the issue of the imminent threat. The briefings on capitol hill in which secretary pompeo was one of the briefers that got a lot of push back from democrats who said there was not sufficient investigation, that questions werent answered. Even a few republicans who said it was just unacceptable to not have more information about the nature and the classification of threat. Even though there are clearly there are sources and methods to be protected. Also of course when you have the pairing of the secretary of state and the secretary of treasury that brings to mind the new sanctions and President Trump said hes authorized and he told us yesterday he expected that to be fleshed out publicly soon so we expect the secretary of treasury will be prepared to do that after the president has signed and affirmed new sanctions against iran. One of the sticks being used in the current conflict ratcheting up sanctions on iran and sanctions that are one of the factors in dealing with the Airline Tragedy because some of the sanctions limit u. S. Activity in cooperation with iran in a variety of ways. So we have many, many questions ready for secretaries pompeo and mnuchin and there may be a chance for the u. S. To really move the ball forward. One of the conflicts we have seen in the last 24 hours, hallie, is President Trump has been saying publicly that the u. S. Embassy in baghdad or other embassies have been on the target list so to speak from general soleimani who was taken out in the drone strike. Secretary pompeo has said we dont know when or where the threats would have been but we knew they were real. Those are the words of secretary pompeo. Well get try to get answers to those coming up this hour. Thank you, Kelly Odonnell. Garrett haake, this crisis point with iran, theres i understand some news coming out from the House Speaker related to impeachment. This is what passes for news, the speaker was coming off the floor and a group of reporters asked her if there was an announcement on the articles and she said shed be communicating with her members and perhaps well hear that. She may be putting out a Dear Colleague letter. Theres no mechanism to put forward the impeachments on it today. They have to name the managers first thats a separate vote that has to happen before they can formally transmit the articles to the senate which means we wont see that done before this weekend but what we might see we might see, and i emphasize might given that were reading tea leaves is a communication about what the next steps would be. Perhaps naming internally who the impeachment managers are going to be. Were waiting to hear more on that. Again t house last vote of the day should happen in the next what half hour. So i would if were going to see moving parts we might see them start to move very fairly quickly. And theres a rolling cart behind us, shout for us, and touch on the war resolution and there were a couple of deflections there. So you end one a bipartisan vote, eight democrats voting with republicans against that war powers resolution. A handful of republicans including matt gaetz interestingly voting with democrats on that war powers resolution. Its getting a lot more churn today as were hearing from members saying they dont know what the president was talking about when hes saying theres an imminent plot to bomb embassies. That might influence the senate on their own war powers resolution which may come up next week were not in impeachment. Thank you. And as we talked about here theres a couple of huge stories were juggling. The Senate Impeachment trial and that new word from House Speaker nancy pelosi just moments ago off the house floor. You heard garrett report that perhaps we may find out perhaps more about the house impeachment matters today. Somebody in contention for that job will join us after the break, Eric Swalwell, who is a member of the intel and the judiciary committees. Plus its deadline day for the democrats and one thing we know the next primary debate is going to be rich. Really rich. More on one of the candidates polling surge thats taking it from 5 million to a quarter billion. G it from 5 million to a quarter billion. For adults with moderately to severely active crohns disease, stelara® works differently. Studies showed relief and remission, with dosing every 8 weeks. Stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. Some serious infections require hospitalization. Before treatment, get tested for tb. 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You can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. All with millions of secure wifi hotspots and the best lte everywhere else. Its a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. Switch and save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. And save even more when you say bring my own phone into your voice remote. Thats simple, easy, awesome. Click, call or visit a store today. For more on the reporting that we just discussed related to that building right there, capitol hill, and the possibility of the looming Senate Impeachment trial starting maybe as early as next week, i want to do to a thing or two about something that may know that nancy pelosi has planned, Eric Swalwell. He serves on the judiciary and intel committees. Good morning. Do pelosi interpreation for us. When shes communicating with the members today what does that mean . Well, we have been communicating all week about getting a fair trial in the senate and since we have had articles voted on, we have seen john bolton come forward. We have gotten documents that we didnt receive through public requests that the press has made and the public sentiment for a fair trial has moved. Im sure shes evaluating now what does that mean for the environment in the senate. Does that mean we may perhaps see some kind of communication from her about house impeachment managers moving forward . You know, ill leave that to her. I also am waiting to see what well do be doing on the house side. For your viewers sake we have to have one more vote here in the house to vote on who the managers wound. What the budget would be. What the rules package out of our end would be to send over to the senate. Thats one more vote we have to take. I dont think thats going to happen this week but ill leave that to the speaker. You of course, as you know, you have been mentioned a as a potential impeachment manager for the house. Have you had the discussions, do you anticipate some news on that front in the next 24 to 48 hours . Yeah, ill leave that to the speaker and ill do whatever it takes to help us save our country, but also theres other work that has to be done here as well. Yeah, this week was the one Year Anniversary of background check bill and im working to get a vote over in the senate on that. Theres a lot of other things were doing. But yes, in holding the president accountable and making sure he doesnt jeopardize the upcoming election is a top priority. It sounds like, congressman, based on the conversation that you and i are having and based on pelosi, this is getting closer. I want to you about this because on the show last month when you were on when you were joined us you talked about the urgency for the house to act quickly because you believed that the president could continue to abuse the power of the office to cheat in the upcoming election. How do you square that with the way that the speaker has handled this now, waiting to send over the articles . Yeah, well that urgency, you know is colliding with a rigged process over in the senate and so i think what the speaker has skillfully done she said well, i wont send the articles where theyre certain to die and the president wont be held accountable at all and thats a balance shes had to strike. But again its been not for nothing, john bolton has come forward. Just security, an open press group has obtained new documents and the public sentiment continues to cry out for a fair trial. So i think shes at the very least accomplished that. You talk about i know that you have in the past as well, the substance of these impeachment articles. Are you at all concerned that the process now is outweighing the substance piece in the conversations around impeachment because of Speaker Pelosis delay in handing over the articles and that republicans might use that to their advantage . In fact, we have seen that already. Im not worried about that. Its process story until its not. As soon as this is in the senate it will be about the substance. And so, you know, the process is just kind of what happens in between the substance and that happens to be where were at right now. There was that moment yesterday with the Armed Services chairman smith saying it was time to send the articles over and then he said he was misspoke but i wonder about the discussions with your fellow democrats youre having. Is that frustration building, is this reaching a point where the House Speaker needs to make this move perhaps monday or tuesday and not later than that . Frustration is with the president that he wont just say, hey, im going to send you the documents and the witnesses you need. Frustration is with leader mcconnell who cant assure the American People hell give a fair trial when he has a guy waving his hand in bolton saying i have new information that no one in the world has heard and i want to come tell it. And mcconnell cant even say ill allow that. Thats frankly where the frustration is. What is your expectation for timing then, congressman . Speaker pelosi no vote today, no vote to move forward on the impeachment manager, do we think tuesday when you get back to town . Let me say this knowing Speaker Pelosi when she acts it will be purposeful. Its not capricious, it is intentional and it will be in the best interest of protecting our elections and our National Security. I appreciate you coming back on the show, congressman, thank you. For more on we just heard whats happening in the house from Eric Swalwell so lets talk about what happens in the senate then. Antonia ferrier, former press secretary. Talk to us about senator mcconnell here. He is telling according to politico republicans that he expects that the senate trial could start as soon as next week. Yep. Politico also reports though that, yeah, maybe he doesnt know totally for sure. He doesnt have inside intel. This is his assumption. They caution he does havent this intelligence from the inside. You know this office and this person. Yep. Does he or not . I dont think he does. Its up to the speaker. Were on day 23 since the house allegedly impeached the president. The reason i said allegedly i cant determine if they think hes an impeached president. It will be around organized resolution thfrntion is the this is the clinton model. Like i said, day 23 there was an urgency as mr. Swalwell had to try to explain. Is there or is there not an urgency, but the thing is what people dont understand is what the senate has to do is first vote on a piece of housekeeping which is an organizing resolution. And democrats make the point they feel like there has been a lot of information thats come out in the 23, 24 days that has been they believe useful in the men public. You talk of the organized thinking, that Mitch Mcconnell met with President Trump and walked him through what this could look like. How much would you expect, friday, the week before we think this might come of come to a head, how much is ironed out at this point . I think a lot of it is in terms of the procedure. That doesnt mean he knows necessarily where everything is going to go. Senator mcconnell has an incredible ability to know what he knows and not to lean into things he doesnt know. This is just the beginning. What mr. Swalwell and the House Democrats do not understand or appreciate is this is just the beginning. The clinton model what happened . They got on to the resolution and many things were decided from there. There were a lot of votes and subsequent votes and conversations to figure out what to do from there including house senators with were going to hear from people like monica lewinsky. My challenge is no, this isnt all set right now. But its not going to be set because there will be multiple discussions, between, you know, House Intelligence Committee<\/a> joining us on a busy morning. Were on the ground in ukraine and covering both ends of pennsylvania avenue. Bill neely, tom costello, Kelly Odonnell<\/a> at the white house and Garrett Haake<\/a> is on capitol hill. This isnt the first time well hear from the state department about what pompeo doing because the state Department Said<\/a> he spoke with ukraines president to express his condolences. What else are they saying . Yes, thats right, mike pompeo offered the full support of the United States<\/a> in the investigation. And within the last hour president zelensky of ukraine has said hes very grateful for that support. And that any information the u. S. Has to offer will be useful in the investigation. He has also called on the u. S. To release all the information that it might have. He did meet this afternoon just a couple of hours ago with the main top u. S. Diplomat here in kiev and the Ukrainian Foreign<\/a> minister said after that meeting that data had been released by the u. S. But there was no detail on what that was. President zelensky said at the minute the missile theory cannot be ruled out. But it can be not confirmed. Now, ukraine of course is central to this investigation and it is the country that has 45 experts on the ground in tehran. Some of whom worked on to mh17 investigation but not clear what access they have to the wreckage. Whether they are in any way involved in the opening up of the black box flight recorder data because this afternoon, in tehran, iran said that it was beginning that process of opening up the information in the black boxes. Whether it will be able to do that or not, we simply dont know. Bill neely, live for us there in kiev. Tom costello, youre tracking this with your sources so what are you hearing . Well, theres concern about whether iran first of all might have a its own motivation for analyzing the black boxes and before outside western experts are along with iranian investigators looking at the black box data and there is great concern about the current state of the wreckage site, debris field. Theres reporting suggesting that if not all of that debris field had been moved or in some way tampered with. Thats concerning to say, listen, you come into the crash scene, you preserve the crash scene. You want to document every single piece of wreckage and piece of debris. Looking for any signs at all of what might have caused this crash or in this case looking for any signs of a missile strike. But if its true then iran has in any way moved parts of that debris field and that obviously compromises the scene. Investigators if it were a pure factual investigation in the United States<\/a>, in europe, then they would be looking at the scene and then the black boxes. They want to hear what the pilots said to each other back and forth. Were they talking about a missile or a sudden external explosion . Were they in a panic wondering why they had lost all of the systems and lets talk about the systems, the flight data recorder should have captured the moment of impact of a potential missile in that both engines would have immediately shut down and all comes would have lost. All of that is pristine and the question is whether thats been compromised. Ntsb is not on the scene and has not yet accepted formally the invitation to be a party to the investigation. Tom costello, with that great reporting. Kelly odonnell, all of this is another Pressure Point<\/a> on the relationship between the u. S. And iran and thats something well hear about from the secretary of state when he ends up in that building behind you in just about 40 minutes from now. What are we expecting . Well, just off the lectern, clear out the cobwebs of the Briefing Room<\/a> because for the first time in the new year and for first time in a long time well have a briefing from the Briefing Room<\/a> with the secretary of state and the secretary of treasury. And clearly, the intersection of the tragedy and the investigation that tom was just talking about is also a diplomatic issue for the United States<\/a> at a time when the u. S. And iran are in heightened tensions and there have been questions about the measuring stick of escalation deescalatation in the conflict and how does the u. S. Aircraft under the brand of the Ukrainian Airline<\/a> how does that factor in here in terms of the trustworthiness of iran, the cooperation on the International Level<\/a> and beyond that there are serious questions to ask about the issue of the imminent threat. The briefings on capitol hill in which secretary pompeo was one of the briefers that got a lot of push back from democrats who said there was not sufficient investigation, that questions werent answered. Even a few republicans who said it was just unacceptable to not have more information about the nature and the classification of threat. Even though there are clearly there are sources and methods to be protected. Also of course when you have the pairing of the secretary of state and the secretary of treasury that brings to mind the new sanctions and President Trump<\/a> said hes authorized and he told us yesterday he expected that to be fleshed out publicly soon so we expect the secretary of treasury will be prepared to do that after the president has signed and affirmed new sanctions against iran. One of the sticks being used in the current conflict ratcheting up sanctions on iran and sanctions that are one of the factors in dealing with the Airline Tragedy<\/a> because some of the sanctions limit u. S. Activity in cooperation with iran in a variety of ways. So we have many, many questions ready for secretaries pompeo and mnuchin and there may be a chance for the u. S. To really move the ball forward. One of the conflicts we have seen in the last 24 hours, hallie, is President Trump<\/a> has been saying publicly that the u. S. Embassy in baghdad or other embassies have been on the target list so to speak from general soleimani who was taken out in the drone strike. Secretary pompeo has said we dont know when or where the threats would have been but we knew they were real. Those are the words of secretary pompeo. Well get try to get answers to those coming up this hour. Thank you, Kelly Odonnell<\/a>. Garrett haake, this crisis point with iran, theres i understand some news coming out from the House Speaker<\/a> related to impeachment. This is what passes for news, the speaker was coming off the floor and a group of reporters asked her if there was an announcement on the articles and she said shed be communicating with her members and perhaps well hear that. She may be putting out a Dear Colleague<\/a> letter. Theres no mechanism to put forward the impeachments on it today. They have to name the managers first thats a separate vote that has to happen before they can formally transmit the articles to the senate which means we wont see that done before this weekend but what we might see we might see, and i emphasize might given that were reading tea leaves is a communication about what the next steps would be. Perhaps naming internally who the impeachment managers are going to be. Were waiting to hear more on that. Again t house last vote of the day should happen in the next what half hour. So i would if were going to see moving parts we might see them start to move very fairly quickly. And theres a rolling cart behind us, shout for us, and touch on the war resolution and there were a couple of deflections there. So you end one a bipartisan vote, eight democrats voting with republicans against that war powers resolution. A handful of republicans including matt gaetz interestingly voting with democrats on that war powers resolution. Its getting a lot more churn today as were hearing from members saying they dont know what the president was talking about when hes saying theres an imminent plot to bomb embassies. That might influence the senate on their own war powers resolution which may come up next week were not in impeachment. Thank you. And as we talked about here theres a couple of huge stories were juggling. The Senate Impeachment<\/a> trial and that new word from House Speaker<\/a> nancy pelosi just moments ago off the house floor. You heard garrett report that perhaps we may find out perhaps more about the house impeachment matters today. Somebody in contention for that job will join us after the break, Eric Swalwell<\/a>, who is a member of the intel and the judiciary committees. Plus its deadline day for the democrats and one thing we know the next primary debate is going to be rich. Really rich. More on one of the candidates polling surge thats taking it from 5 million to a quarter billion. 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You have a brother in the secyes sir. Alion. Theyre walking into a trap. Your orders are to deliver a message calling off tomorrow mornings attack. [ orchestral music playing ] why in gods name did you have to choose me . If you dont get there in time, it will be a massacre. We will lose 1,600 men. Your brother among them. Thats why Xfinity Mobile<\/a> lets you design your own data. You can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. All with millions of secure wifi hotspots and the best lte everywhere else. Its a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. Switch and save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. And save even more when you say bring my own phone into your voice remote. Thats simple, easy, awesome. Click, call or visit a store today. For more on the reporting that we just discussed related to that building right there, capitol hill, and the possibility of the looming Senate Impeachment<\/a> trial starting maybe as early as next week, i want to do to a thing or two about something that may know that nancy pelosi has planned, Eric Swalwell<\/a>. He serves on the judiciary and intel committees. Good morning. Do pelosi interpreation for us. When shes communicating with the members today what does that mean . Well, we have been communicating all week about getting a fair trial in the senate and since we have had articles voted on, we have seen john bolton come forward. We have gotten documents that we didnt receive through public requests that the press has made and the public sentiment for a fair trial has moved. Im sure shes evaluating now what does that mean for the environment in the senate. Does that mean we may perhaps see some kind of communication from her about house impeachment managers moving forward . You know, ill leave that to her. I also am waiting to see what well do be doing on the house side. For your viewers sake we have to have one more vote here in the house to vote on who the managers wound. What the budget would be. What the rules package out of our end would be to send over to the senate. Thats one more vote we have to take. I dont think thats going to happen this week but ill leave that to the speaker. You of course, as you know, you have been mentioned a as a potential impeachment manager for the house. Have you had the discussions, do you anticipate some news on that front in the next 24 to 48 hours . Yeah, ill leave that to the speaker and ill do whatever it takes to help us save our country, but also theres other work that has to be done here as well. Yeah, this week was the one Year Anniversary<\/a> of background check bill and im working to get a vote over in the senate on that. Theres a lot of other things were doing. But yes, in holding the president accountable and making sure he doesnt jeopardize the upcoming election is a top priority. It sounds like, congressman, based on the conversation that you and i are having and based on pelosi, this is getting closer. I want to you about this because on the show last month when you were on when you were joined us you talked about the urgency for the house to act quickly because you believed that the president could continue to abuse the power of the office to cheat in the upcoming election. How do you square that with the way that the speaker has handled this now, waiting to send over the articles . Yeah, well that urgency, you know is colliding with a rigged process over in the senate and so i think what the speaker has skillfully done she said well, i wont send the articles where theyre certain to die and the president wont be held accountable at all and thats a balance shes had to strike. But again its been not for nothing, john bolton has come forward. Just security, an open press group has obtained new documents and the public sentiment continues to cry out for a fair trial. So i think shes at the very least accomplished that. You talk about i know that you have in the past as well, the substance of these impeachment articles. Are you at all concerned that the process now is outweighing the substance piece in the conversations around impeachment because of Speaker Pelosi<\/a>s delay in handing over the articles and that republicans might use that to their advantage . In fact, we have seen that already. Im not worried about that. Its process story until its not. As soon as this is in the senate it will be about the substance. And so, you know, the process is just kind of what happens in between the substance and that happens to be where were at right now. There was that moment yesterday with the Armed Services<\/a> chairman smith saying it was time to send the articles over and then he said he was misspoke but i wonder about the discussions with your fellow democrats youre having. Is that frustration building, is this reaching a point where the House Speaker<\/a> needs to make this move perhaps monday or tuesday and not later than that . Frustration is with the president that he wont just say, hey, im going to send you the documents and the witnesses you need. Frustration is with leader mcconnell who cant assure the American People<\/a> hell give a fair trial when he has a guy waving his hand in bolton saying i have new information that no one in the world has heard and i want to come tell it. And mcconnell cant even say ill allow that. Thats frankly where the frustration is. What is your expectation for timing then, congressman . Speaker pelosi no vote today, no vote to move forward on the impeachment manager, do we think tuesday when you get back to town . Let me say this knowing Speaker Pelosi<\/a> when she acts it will be purposeful. Its not capricious, it is intentional and it will be in the best interest of protecting our elections and our National Security<\/a>. I appreciate you coming back on the show, congressman, thank you. For more on we just heard whats happening in the house from Eric Swalwell<\/a> so lets talk about what happens in the senate then. Antonia ferrier, former press secretary. Talk to us about senator mcconnell here. He is telling according to politico republicans that he expects that the senate trial could start as soon as next week. Yep. Politico also reports though that, yeah, maybe he doesnt know totally for sure. He doesnt have inside intel. This is his assumption. They caution he does havent this intelligence from the inside. You know this office and this person. Yep. Does he or not . I dont think he does. Its up to the speaker. Were on day 23 since the house allegedly impeached the president. The reason i said allegedly i cant determine if they think hes an impeached president. It will be around organized resolution thfrntion is the this is the clinton model. Like i said, day 23 there was an urgency as mr. Swalwell had to try to explain. Is there or is there not an urgency, but the thing is what people dont understand is what the senate has to do is first vote on a piece of housekeeping which is an organizing resolution. And democrats make the point they feel like there has been a lot of information thats come out in the 23, 24 days that has been they believe useful in the men public. You talk of the organized thinking, that Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> met with President Trump<\/a> and walked him through what this could look like. How much would you expect, friday, the week before we think this might come of come to a head, how much is ironed out at this point . I think a lot of it is in terms of the procedure. That doesnt mean he knows necessarily where everything is going to go. Senator mcconnell has an incredible ability to know what he knows and not to lean into things he doesnt know. This is just the beginning. What mr. Swalwell and the House Democrats<\/a> do not understand or appreciate is this is just the beginning. The clinton model what happened . They got on to the resolution and many things were decided from there. There were a lot of votes and subsequent votes and conversations to figure out what to do from there including house senators with were going to hear from people like monica lewinsky. My challenge is no, this isnt all set right now. But its not going to be set because there will be multiple discussions, between, you know, House Democrats<\/a> excuse me, Senate Democrats<\/a> and republicans figuring out how to move forward. On the clinton model point, there were big differences. Of course. You didnt hear from the key players this time around as you did in the late 90s. I think that should be noted. When you talk about the Senate Republicans<\/a> how is your former boss working to i dont want to say rein in but communicate with those who may be willing to work with democrats here . Well, you know, look, he is not a person who unnecessarily tries to put his boot on his colleagues necks. What he tries unnecessarily. Well, there are some times. Is this one of the times . No, i dont think so. Look, i think for someone like lets talk about senator collins. She was a key person in the clinton trial. To the very end, she and Arlen Specter<\/a> came out and did not convict president clinton. We know shell vote with senator mcconnell to get on to the trial with this organizing resolution but what happens from there is doing to have to play out a bit. For example, on witnesses. And again to mr. Swalwells point, no, this is not all locked in right now because it is a discussion and a negotiation. So for example, we have to keep in mind that the prosecution are House Democrats<\/a>. Theyre going to work with Senate Democrats<\/a> on to hear what it is theyre going to request of the chair in which case that is the chief justice rehnquist. Roberts this time around. Yes, sorry. Theres a reason i mentioned rehnquist. Senate republicans will, you know, have discussions and will communicate to a certain extent with the defense which is the president s team. In will be there will be motions and times theyll be voting on things and that include things like witnesses. So this idea that senator mcconnell is like you set this whole process right now theres not opportunities. Its a fundamental understanding and im sorry for mr. Swalwell, he doesnt understand how the senate works. Theyll have the ability to raise concerns and to figure out through the justice how to move forward. Congressman swalwell is not here to defend himself and theres a way that they work as impeachment managers versus Senate Democrats<\/a> who are in the trial and questions about the witness calling and maneuvers that may happen to get witnesses on both sides of the aisle. We have to leave it there unfortunately. Good to have your inside perspective as somebody who worked with senator Mitch Mcconnell<\/a>. Thank you. I want to get more perspective from ben carden, a democrat on the Senate Foreign<\/a> relations committee. Thank you for being on. I appreciate you coming back. Hallie, good to be you. Thank you. I know we have a bit of a studio delay so ill try to make this as painless as possible. Let me stay on impeachment for one moment because you will be getting these articles at some point. Do you have any guidance on when that may be and do you believe Speaker Pelosi<\/a> should move perhaps monday or tuesday to get this vote take up on the impeachment managers and get the process going . Well, first, let me say im a member of the senate so i do understand how the senate operates. And in this manner, there should be an organizing resolution in the senate that is agreed upon by both the democrats and republicans. The principal difference here is that the key witnesses, those who have direct knowledge of the president s involvement in regards to both articles of impeachment and the documents were not made available in the house of representatives. So for the senate to have a fair trial we should at least know well have an opportunity to hear from those witnesses that have the direct information that had not yet testified under oath. Now to answer your questions directly, i think Speaker Pelosi<\/a> wants to make sure theres a fair trial in the senate. I have a lot of confidence in Speaker Pelosi<\/a>. I think shell do the right thing as far as when the documents will be transmitted to the United States<\/a> senate. We all obviously would like to get this moving forward but we want it done in a fair manner and the absence of the agreement between the majority leader and chairman schumer is concerning. I want to turn to iran. For our viewers theres a little box on your screen showing secretary of state pompeo where hell be in the white house Briefing Room<\/a>. President trump said overnight not only was iran planning an attack on our embassy potentially in baghdad and other places but he went on to talk in more detail than we have heard about what this imminent threat was. You were in the intelligence briefing earlier this week. Did you hear intel about an attack on our embassies . Not at all. There was not any mention of anything specific such as that. Let me point out that the president just is trampling on the constitution of the United States<\/a> as it relates to the responsibilities of congress on the authorization of military force. The use of based upon imminent threat was not articulated with what the president is saying now. Do you agree with your colleague, chris murphy, who tweeted that he believes the Trump Administration<\/a> is conflating the intel. Is that what youre seeing . Theres suspicions thats the case because we had the closed briefing and i cant talk about the specifics by that didnt come up. So hes now mentioning things that were not mentioned when the direct questions were asked during a briefing of members of congress. So it is very suspicious that hes now saying things that were not brought out at the briefing itself. And clearly, the president s authority is based upon whether there was an imminent threat. So this is a critical factor in regards to the constitutional use of power by the president. In the last 24 hours we have heard from three Top Administration<\/a> officials including the president and frankly three explanations and i want to play for you the president , secretary pompeo and the Vice President<\/a>. Soleimani was actively planning new attacks and he was looking very seriously at our embassies and not just the embassy in baghdad. There is no doubt there were a series of imminent attacks being plotted by Qassem Soleimani<\/a> and we dont know when or where but it was real. He was planning imminent attacks larger in the region against American Forces<\/a>. So we dont know when and where but it was real. And President Trump<\/a> says attacks against the embassy in baghdad and maybe others. How do you square that . Well, let me make it clear. No one cries over the death of the general. You know, he was a person who was responsible for a great deal of terrorist activities but theres also clear but its also clear there was no specific information that they have released in regards to a specific attack that was being planned. Our Intelligence Community<\/a> is the best in the world. So they can intercept information and yet, there was no information presented to us about a specific target or a specific time line. Very quickly before i let you go, the downing of that ukrainian jetliner, iran is denying they had any involvement in this. Our reporting is that u. S. Sources are telling us something different. What is your sense . Is there any doubt this was irans doing . I think its very likely it was the iranians that brought this commercial airline down. They really have to open this up to International Inspectors<\/a> and get a full investigation of what happened and why did this happen and its hard to understand how they would want to shoot down a commercial airline. But we need to understand all of the facts around it. They have to assume responsibility. And i hope the whole International Community<\/a> will organize and speak with the united voice. There were canadians and iranians killed. This screams out for international attention. Thank you senator cardin. As mentioned we are expecting to hear from secretary of state pompeo and secretary of treasury Steve Mnuchin<\/a> in a matter of moments. Plus, headlines in the 2020 trail, a billionaire now surging in two early voting states. How the money is shaking up the race. Speaking of 2020 did you see what happened on the today show . Check it out. Here they are, together. If you become president , you have got to be flying back and forth to play him. Yes. Yes. On snl. Its true, its not going to be easy for me. But it will be great for the country. Terrible for me. Getting you a good job for four years and youre complaining. Theyre not related at all. Thats what you call an al roker sandwich. 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He helped expand Health Coverage<\/a> to 200,000 more kids and upgraded pediatric care infant mortality rates dropped to record lows. And as mayor, Mike Bloomberg<\/a> always championed Reproductive Health<\/a> for women. So when you hear Mike Bloomberg<\/a> on health care. Mrb this is america. We can certainly afford to make sure that everybody that needs to see a doctor can see a doctor, everybody that needs medicines to stay healthy can get those medicines. Nurse you should know, he did it as mayor, hell get it done as president. Mrb im Mike Bloomberg<\/a> and i approve this message. These days were horn honking i hear you, sister. Thats why im partnering with cigna to remind you to go in for your annual checkup. And be open with your doctor about anything you feel. Physically, and emotionally. Body and mind. What do you say to those who are worried that your message is too progressive, too far left to win a general election . No, the way you beat trump and i believe this strongly is you need a huge voter turnout. That was president ial candidate Bernie Sanders<\/a> in that exclusive interview over on the today show this morning. It looks like the vermont senator is one of six candidates who are going to be on next weeks democratic debate stage and that includes kind of a surprising addition overnight. Billionaire tom steyer. Even with odds the New York Times<\/a> calls almost nonexistent. So how did he pull it off . A lot of money moves like a lot. And heres a way to visualize it. Look at all of the candidates spending on tv and radio ads so far. Notice that steyer is not even on here yet because to fit him on the board you actually have to change the entire scale of what it looks like. And once you do that you have to zoom out a little bit too, you can see steyer has spent 67 million so far. And by the way, that still doesnt make him even the top spender in the race. Theres the other billionaire end are running, Michael Bloomberg<\/a>. That image is worth 1,000 words. And thanks to the team at Rachel Maddows<\/a> show for bringing us the graphics. I want to get to ali vitali to New Hampshire<\/a> and senior Political Editor<\/a> mark murray is with me on the set. Ali, let me start with you, because politicos headline calling him surging steyer. Is that fair or overblown based on your reporting . I guess well see but he clearly did what he needed to do which was make the debate stage with those two polls overnight from fox in nevada and in South Carolina<\/a>. That pushed steyer on to the debate stage and you mentioned this. It was against the odds because the thresholds have never been higher. We thought only five people were going to be on that stage now we have the sixth, tom steyer getting in right under the wire. Really, look, the importance of being on the debate stage is crucial. Because its not just being there. Its showing voters that you can have viral moments that you can mix it up with the other people on the stage. And as we get down to the wire in these races, just physically being on the stage is important to show voters hey, im still someone who is in the race and keep hitting the thresholds that mean that im having a successful go at this campaign. So thats whats happening for tom steyer on the debate stage. Well see him in vermont, if that debate happens. Were waiting to see what happens with impeachment. Here on the ground in New Hampshire<\/a> its a muddled mess. We saw a monmouth poll, the core four, buttigieg, biden, warren and bernie theyre mixing it up. Buttigieg is surging, warren is sliding a little bit. We have seen those trends came of playing out across the early states but i think really if you go deeper the thing thats striking to me is that theres really no heir apparent in this race. So for anyone whos thinking that youre going to come out of iowa and this race is neatly tied one a bow i think that the real thing out of the states after iowa dont hold your breath if youre hoping for a neat finish to this. Ali vitali, thank you. Mark murray, so tom steyer, you in first read write if you want to know how steyer jumped double digits, add money on the airwaves here. Is that all it is . Anything to be said for him as a candidate . Look, i think its important to note how hes spending much and not only nationally, but also in the key states where the polls were taken. He is dominating the airwaves in South Carolina<\/a>, 14 million on the air. In nevada, 10 million. And whats important to note is that while all the candidates are pretty much advertising in iowa and to a lesser extent in New Hampshire<\/a> theres not that much Campaign Activity<\/a> and advertising activity in South Carolina<\/a> and nevada. We have not seen a South Carolina<\/a> and nevada qualifying poll in quite a while and the number the amount of money hes advertising with his poll standing does strike me. He did speak to our campaign embed julia jester and said, im doing well in South Carolina<\/a> and nevada because im speaking on issues of race and immigration. But those that ad spending is a big, big role here. So you wonder if Michael Bloomberg<\/a> is saying im spending a lot of money in the super tuesday states and we have new exclusive reporting on bloombergs campaign he plans to fund that huge apparatus, an army of some 500 staffers all the way through the general election in november regardless of whether hes a nominee or not. Interesting he might go from candidate to patron of democrats here. Yeah. So my big takeaway hes saying that im putting my money where my mouth is and democrats you can rely on my hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars. Remember in the 2018 midterms he was a big patron, sponsoring house candidates across the country. Senate candidates. Democrats are probably taking this at a very good sign hell throw in a lot of money. As its written in the New York Times<\/a> theres a way that people generally run for president and theres whatever mr. Bloomberg is doing. And bloomberg can be campaigning, ask for a picture, and bloomberg grimaced a bit, yep, quickly. We need someone like you. If you say so, bloomberg responded. And his three terms as a new york mayor, i think hes running an Unconventional Campaign<\/a> and thats coming out for him. Very quickly, Bernie Sanders<\/a> was asked about concerns over the health today. I want to quickly play that here. What about if somebody is worried about someone of your age, forgive me, just had a heart attack. Well, look, you look at the totality of the candidate. Every candidate has strengths and weaknesses. I would not be here if i were not healthy. So you have three of the top Democratic Candidates<\/a> who are in the 70 or older. Health has become a very big issue. They have all put out their health records. The three who are 70 or plus. Bernie, joe biden and Elizabeth Warren<\/a> and the age deal if one of the three is the democratic nominee, who they pick as their Vice President<\/a> becomes even more important. Well President Trump<\/a> is 73 as well. Mark murray, thank you very much. Great to see you. Well be doing this a lot more. Speaking of tom steyer, hes on with Andrea Mitchell<\/a> noon eastern right here on msnbc. We want to bet back to the white house though with a live look at the room where well see secretary of state mike pompeo and treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin<\/a>. This is a briefing we only found out about early this morning. You can see Peter Alexander<\/a> getting ready. Everybody is getting in and getting ready for this. We dont know what this is. Keep in mind, we have seen both the secretary of state and the treasury secretary in the past the two of them have come out to make announcements about things like sanctions, for example. That is a natural nexus of those two agencies, basically. So we are waiting to see what this announcement is going to be and whether secretary pompeo addresses the remarks that we played you on fox, that led to the killing of the top general Qassem Soleimani<\/a> but he couldnt say when, couldnt say where, it was going to happen. I want to bring in people who have specific and unique inside insight into this. Michael allen he worked as special assistant to george w. Bush and he was the majority staff director on the house intelligence. And michelle flydoy. Thank you for being here. Michael, you first. Expectation of what we might hear from secretary pompeo and secretary mnuchin today, any sense . Well, two things. First i think the most obvious thing is that they would be announcing additional sanctions against iran, imploring the europeans to join us in an attempt to say, listen, we really want to get to the negotiating table but our maximum Pressure Campaign<\/a> is still on. What i think is less likely and frankly i would be a it would be a total disaster if they come out, saber rattling, echoing what the president said about additional sanctions on iraq. In case they were to decide to try and kick us out of the country. Thats not helpful right now as we try to work through this delicate situation with the council of representatives in iraq and so i hope its about iran sanctions and there wont be meeting additional threats. I agree with michael. I think what they announce for the sanctions doubling down on the maximum Pressure Campaign<\/a>. But i hope theyll actually explain to the American People<\/a> what is the strategy. What are the objectives were trying to achieve, not just a laundry list of huge aspirations that are unrealistic. But what are the objectives, what are the strategy and coercive measures like military actions only work if theyre in support of some broader so giving out a lot of sticks, not a lot of carrots. Whats the way back from the brink. Whats the way forward. President trump has spoken a few times about not trusting democrats with National Security<\/a> intelligence. Im curious as to your response on this. I want to play for you what he had to say about the strike against al baghdadi and the one most recently against soleimani. Watch. We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because washington leaks like i have never seen before. Schiff is a big leaker. They want us to tell them so that they can leak it to their friends in the corrupt media. You talk about wanting to see a strategy. You talk about wanting to see a way forward. Are there repercussions, holding back certain information from lawmakers who are in a position to assist with that . Absolutely. Its offensive and politicizing an issue that shouldnt be politicized. Congress has legitimate constitutional responsibilities. The top intelligence members on the intelligence committee, they need to be briefed. They need to be brought in and the best intelligence needs to be shared with them. The clearances. They have all demonstrated their responsible handling of that information in the past. They need to be briefed. I understand we are now within about 90 seconds of hearing from mike pompeo. Peter alexander, when you and i talked from the booth to the bureau here this morning we did not expect this. Yeah, we learned about this, within moments we well hear from the secretary of state pompeo and treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin<\/a>. Theres been criticism of the administrations handling of the classified briefings and at a rally in toledo, he detailed in terms that effectively Qassem Soleimani<\/a> was looking at attacking embassies, plural, not just the embassy in baghdad. Which is striking because lawmakers who were in the classified briefings say they heard nothing of the sort at the time. Let me sit down here they come behind you, peter. Thank you so much. Youre seeing treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin<\/a> and secretary of state mike pompeo walk in. I want to make a brief comment about the iran sanctions. Everybody saw that the dow hit 29,000. The president s economic plans are clearly working. We are looking forward to signing the usmca and a very Strong Economy<\/a> this year. As previously announced by the president , we are announcing additional sanctions against the Iranian Regime<\/a> as a result of the attack on u. S. And allied troops. First, the president is issuing an executive order authorizing the imposition of additional sanctions against any individual owning, operating, trading with or assisting sectors of the iranian economy including construction, manufacturing, textiles and mining. Let me be clear. These are both primary and secondary sanctions. The eo also allow us to designate other sectors in the future as we think is appropriate. Second, we are announcing 17 specific sanctions against irans largest steel and iron manufacturers. Set three sea entities and a transfer of products. As a result of these actions well cut off billions of dollars of support the Iranian Regime<\/a> and well continue our enforcement of other entities. Third, we are taking action against eight Senior Iranian<\/a> officials who advanced the regimes destabilizing activity and were involved in tuesdays Ballistic Missile<\/a> strike. Secretary pompeo will comment more on this. Todays sanctions are part of our commitment to stop the Iranian Regime<\/a>s global terrorist activities. The president has been very clear. We will continue to apply economic sanctions until iran stops the terrorist activities and commit that it will never have nuclear weapons. Ill now turn it over to secretary pompeo. Thank you, steve. Good morning, everyone. Today President Trump<\/a> is delivering on the pledge that he made. The day after iran attacked American Forces<\/a> in iraq theres a series of new sanctions, secretary mnuchin just mentioned it a Senior Iranian<\/a> officials that are responsible for the regimes violence both at home and abroad. Were striking at the heart of the islamic republics security apparatus. The Supreme National<\/a> council and commander of the brute squad, which has killed approximately 1,500 iranians who were simply demanding freedom. Our action targets other Senior Leaders<\/a> close to the ayatollah. They carried out his terrorist plots to destabilize the middle east and around the world. Theyve trained militias in iraq, syria and elsewhere in the arts of domestic repression. Today theyre accountable for murder and mayhem. The goal of our campaign is to deny the regime the resources to conduct its destructive foreign policy. We want iran to behave like a normal nation. We believe the sanctions we imposed today further continue that strategic objective. Our campaign is composed of diplomatic, economic components that deprive the regime of billions in revenue the regime has used to fuel death around the world. Under our administration, all revenues are down by 80 and iran cannot access roughly 90 of ielts foreign currency reserves. Not only two weeks ago, the iran president stated they lost 200 billion in foreign investment. I want to reiterate the president s concern for dual National Citizens<\/a> detained in iran. Iran knows these individuals have committed no crime, the charges against them are fake. We will do all we can to get each of them returned home to their families. With that well take just a few questions. Yes, maam. Reporter mr. Secretary, the administration said this strike was done based on an imminent threat. This morning you said we didnt know precisely when or wear. Thats not the definition of imminent. The president has also suggested there was some sort of attacking plan against an embassy, perhaps several embassies. Can you clarify . We had specific information on an imminent threat and those threats included attacks on u. S. Embassies. Period. Full stop. So you are mistaken when you said you didnt know precisely when or with are. No, those are completely consistent thoughts. Dont know exactly which minute, exactly which day it would have been executed but it was very clear, Qassem Soleimani<\/a> was plotting a broad, largescale attacks. And it was imminent. Against american facilities throughout the region. Mr. Secretary, in the initial hours after the missile attacks on al assad and irbil, it was believed iran may have taken steps to avoid u. S. Casualties and mark milley came out and other officials came out to say, no, these missiles were intended to kill americans. Does that not deserve some sort of response . If somebody takes a shot at you and they dont hit you simply because you duck, does that mean they werent trying to kill you . Ill defer to the department of defense on the details. As i observed the iranian activity in the region that night, they had the full intention of killing u. S. Forces, whether that was our military or diplomacy being folks in the region but im confident the response the president has taken was appropriate. The president said we dont want war, we want iran to behave like a normal nation. Were here to continue the campaign, our strategic effort to get iran to behave in a way that doesnt continue their 40yearlong effort to terrorize the world. Mr. Secretary, secretary pompeo, do you believe that the iranians shot down Ukrainian International<\/a> Airways Plane<\/a> . And if the iranians shot that plane down, will there be consequences . We do believe it likely that plane was shot down by an iranian missile. Were going to let the investigation play out before we make a final determination. Its important that we get to the bottom of it. I was on the phone with president zelensky, they were working to get resources on the ground to conduct that investigation. Well learn more about what happened to that aircraft. When we get results of the investigation, im confident we and the world will take appropriate actions in response. Will you allow the ntsb to work with the iranians . I was just going to comment on that. The treasury will issue waivers for anybody whether its americans or others that can help facilitate the investigation. Reporter the last time you both joined news this room it was back in september, you were announcing additional sanctions and secretary of state mnuchin at that point you said i think weve gone more sanctions on iran than anybody its absolutely working. Since then we seen an seclusion in violence, shooting down the drone, attacking the embassy. How are sanctions keeping the United States<\/a> economic sanctions keep the United States<\/a> and the United States<\/a> interests more secure . I think we have a hundred percent confidence and we are consistent in our view that the economic sanctions are working, that if we didnt have these sanctions in place, literally iran would have tens of billions of dollars, they would be using that for terrorist activities throughout the region and to enable them to do more bad things, and theres no question by cutting off the economics to the regime, we are having an impact. As the president has said, the fact that the Obama Administration<\/a> turned over 150 billion to regime, we think we wouldnt be in this situation had that not been the case. May i just add its important to keep in mind whats taking place in iran today. This countrys never been in the place that it is today. Big, challenging problems. Their budget theyre going to fail by tens of billions of achieving their revenue. Do you underwrite hezbollah, pick hamas, underwrite the shia in iraq or do you allow your people to live their life . You can see the protests that we expect will continue that willity mannwill i demand from the iranian people that they treat the people the way they so richly deserves and this administration will continue to support those conditions as well. You mentioned secondary sanctions here. What is your message to our european allies who continue to do business with the iranians and specifically, if you can, will this impact the barter mechanism set up by a number of European Companies<\/a> to avoid u. N. Sanctions and continue to do business without using the u. S. Dollar . I think those are both very important questions. I dont believe theres been any transactions. As weve made clear, we are working on a swiss channel that we have approved for humanitarian transactions, well continue to allow humanitarian transactions weve warned instext and others that theyll have secondary sanctions. Weve spoken to our counterparts in europe several times over the last few days and weve emphasized the impact and the issue that iran has announced they are no longer part of the jcpoa and weve had very direct conversations with our counterparts about that. Reporter secretary pompeo, what is your definition of imminent . This was gonna happen and american lives were at risk and we would have been kulplely negligent and the president made the right and around america is safer because of that. Reporter why have there been shifting explanations for intelligence . Were going to charge you one question for everybody so as many people can get questions i dont mean to cut you off but were trying to go ahead. Sir, six months ago, secretary pompeo, the president said that u. S. Intelligence agencies had been running amuck. Hes spent most of the three years downgrat denigrating and the intelligence or any area that contradicts things that he has said. Why then should americans suddenly believe your assertions you had good nlks intelligence this when the head of the executive branch has been casting aspirersions on the Intelligence Community<\/a> for the entire time hes been in office . Ive watched him rely on the intelligence communities and capable men and women delivering exquisite information to the executive branch. I watched the president have confidence in that information. We all challenged their work. We have to make sure we get it right. The Intelligence Community<\/a> is not flawless. We get it wrong. In this case the Intelligence Community<\/a> got it fundamentally right. Even the reflections weve seen after the effect, after the strike that Qassem Soleimani<\/a> took has demonstrated we were quite right. We tack an action that we thought was likely to create less risk for the American People<\/a> and im confident that we did at that. Go ahead, in the back. Reporter this is for secretary pompeo. 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