Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 201906

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20190621

We have reaction from iran. Here in washington, msnbc analyst evelyn, former secretary of defense in the obama admin administration. Kelly, to you first. A lot of activity at the white house late last night. He was there well into the night. So were top officials. Now we know why. Reporter absolutely. And the kind of detail for a bob woodward tellall book, the president is simply putting on twitter talking about his deliberations, the preparations here at the white house for a response to iran shooting down of an unmanned drone over international waters. On monday they shot an unmanned drone. We were coced and loaded to retaliate last night. I asked, how many will die . 150 people, sir, was the answer from a general. Ten minutes before the strike, i stopped it. Not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry. Our military rebuilt and ready to go. By far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting and more added last night. Iran can never have nuclear weapons, not against the usa and not against the world. The president taking us inside his thinking giving us a lastminute pulled from the cliff, if you will, commander of chief saying its a nogo. Chuck schumer spoke about his concerns and what Congress Wants to be involved in, wanting them to give some authority in a new way if theres any further military action that is planned by this administration. Heres senator schumer. But were worried that he and the Administration May bumble into a war. We told the room that the democratic position is that congressional approval must be required before funding any conflict in iran. That is always a difficult vote. So the administration is relying on the constitutional power and the amuf from the post 9 11 era, 18 years old, of course. But the question about authority will be one that will be part of the political debate. We wait to learn more about the president s thinking and if there are perhaps other plans that would meet the president s threshold. As he stated if something more proportionate in the unmanned drone versus iranian targets, which of course if they are on the territorial lens would have some risk of collateral damage. Someone who used the run the building was out on the today show talking about this risk of blinksmanship. Heres what he had to say. Its not clear what the end game is from both sides. That makes it even more damage. Because as it rachets up on both sides, the bad judgment could reduce military confrontation. Lets talk, hans, what we know about what would have happened overnight, the president yanked away from, pulled back from, and what the posture and capabilities are in the region now. Well, clearly on target, hallie. Three of them. Thred a casualty, well, an estimate of what they had. In terms of the assets in the region, basically you have right now a situation to prosecute against low intensity conflict. Basic live to have after groups like al qaeda, isis. But you do have a lot of air assets in the region. There in qatar, it is a lot of air assets. B52s. On top of that, they have the Aircraft Carrier strike group that can bring a lot of fire power. Those are more for tactical p pintrick strikes. They had a lot of capabilities to cause not just commercial hawk but interesting throughout the region. There is always a question if you go up the escalation ladder where you get off. That has been a concern here for some time as well as the white house. Hans, stand by for a second. The iranians are denying a reuters report that President Trump tried to send a message that they have a ticktock deadline coming up. Reporter thats right, hallie. An iranian official told me all morning that that reuters report that a message was sent via oman warning of an imminent attack is entirely false. Throughout the day today, iran has been touting shooting down the drone as a major victory. They have been were warning this is a clear message that iran is a tough nut to crack. Officials have been saying this is not saddam husseins iran. Should a conflict break out, it will be devastating for america and its allies. The commander in charge of the Aerospace Unit said his forces recovered the debris from the drone in iranian waters. And at this stage there is no way for us to verify that that is debris from the drone. But it seems that is it. He also said that iran sent multiple messages to the drone which he said would get relayed that that drone was in iranian airspace and the messages were ignored. He said at 0355 local time the drone was shot down after being given multiple warnings. And it was shot down in iranian airspace. Also, hallie, very ominously he added that a u. S. P8 military aircraft carrying 20 or 30 passengers was also in iranian airspace, but iran decided not to hit that and downed the drone instead, sending a warning signal to the u. S. , and i quote, the u. S. Terrorist forces have received a message from iran. Also throughout the day today, senior clerics at friday prayer have been given fiery sermons. If america hits once, they would hit back three times and President Trump doesnt have the guts or power. Video released by iranian video. This is from the department of defense with smoke trailing the drone as it fell from the sky. Now to doha where Richard Engel is there for us. The big question, where does this go now . Reporter well, i think theres still a possibility that there could be some military action. President trump said he didnt take military action because he didnt like the options. The generals presented a military plan, and he said it would have involved killing 150 people in iran. And he said that was not proportionate for shooting down a drone. That suggests he might be looking for other military options that dont involve as many or any casualties. I dont think were out of the woods yet. If you compare what President Trump tweeted to what iranian officials are saying in the last report by my colleague ali arouzi, they were saying we were to close. We were on the brink but we pulled back to show restraint for human lives. The iranians said we could have killed americans on that plane but decided not to. The president , said we could have killed iranians but we decided not to. But neither said and now we are going to put our differences aside after we reached the break and are going to have talks. That part critically was missing. Richard engel live from doha. Thank you very much. Evelyn, you heard richard. You heard ali, hans and kelly. How unusual is it to have Something Like this happen . As the president said, pulling back with 10 minutes to spare. I dont know any other precedent where its happened, certainly not in recent history. The problem is both sides are escalating. They are allowing, through their rhetoric, through this language that richard just mentioned, a little bit of a escape. The craft was unmanned. So the iranians, in their action, it was an action that wouldnt have harmed lives. So i think the president is right in his remark about the proportionality. It doesnt matter. Right now there is verbal back and forth. A lot of military escalation and zero diplomacy. Thats what we need. President trump tweeted about president obamas desperate and terrible deal with iran. You have an oped. You say if he wants peace and stability he should make a deal with iran, a lot like the one that president obama negotiated and President Trump was so quick to abandon upon taking office. Do you think that will fall on deaf ears in this white house, though . No. The reason is the alternative is continued escalation, one a lot any. Continued escalation until the administration gets under max malist objectives, which we can talk about. Or they say no escalation in him. Iran is not a threat. Just like they did with new york. The reality doesnt change because iran is in a position to have a nuclear escalation. In the New York Times this morning, great peter baker piece, President Trump is on a collision course with himself. He says hes in favor of maximum pressure and against military confrontation on iran. But both of those things cannot be true because one of the things leads to the other. How does the president thread the needle here . You can bridge the gap by a serious diplomatic effort. You need the international community. There are deadlines so the iranians are serious. And you cant say we want the whole bigi kahuna. Start with the nuclear program, add a few things on, as i mentioned in the oped. Thank you. Kelly, hans, ali, richard for being with us as well. Up next, inside the inside job with the man on the inside. Talking to us exclusively one day after launching a Second Senate run. Fellow republicans plotting to take him down. That exclusive interview later in the show. Plus, joe bide in phones a friend. Cory booker trying to smooth over their public feud. No apology though. Will bidens segregation comments mean erosion in support of black voters . And Kirsten Gillibrand is here. We have a lot to talk about, including calling off the strike of iran. So much more. Next. Of iran. So much more next this is the story of john smith. Not this john smith. Or this john smith. Or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana Medicare Advantage members. No, its this john smith. Who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. 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Reporter hallie, ive been speaking to a lot of latino voters in the past couple of months here in the sunshine state. This is now the largest voting bloc here in the state of florida. 2. 2 million latinos in the sunshine state. Repeatedly i hear they say the democrats are kind of taking them for granted, that its happened in other election cycles and that its happening now. Theres this assumption that latinos in florida are going to vote blue no matter what and that simply is not the case. Also, talking about a group that is not monolithic, especially not here in florida. We sat down with two cubans, two Puerto Ricans and a venezuelan this week. This is who they told us they are looking at and why. Im very impressed with Bernie Sanders and elizabeth warren. I think theyre the only two that are really talking about the systemic changes this this country needs. I kind of find joe biden to be an interesting candidate. I do have a lot of concerns for Bernie Sanders. The socialism aspect of everything kind of concerns me. In the united states, you cant put gasoline in a diesel engine. Were not designed for socialism. Im looking at Vice President joe biden, but i am open to see there are a lot of said candidates. This is going to be a long year. I have been watching out for what they say specifically on venezuela, cuba and the economy. Right now im leaning toward joe biden. It will be a long year. A lot could happen. Just to get this straight, for the two of you, if Bernie Sanders were the candidate, you would not vote for the democratic candidate . Thats correct. Whereas for you, thats your pick as a young latino voter. Im between Bernie Sanders and elizabeth warren. Would you Cross Party Lines if you didnt hear what you wanted on the Foreign Policy from the democrats . I could say yes. But it would be a very difficult moment for me. Im not going to lie. It would be very difficult for me to go cast my vote for President Trump. If it was Bernie Sanders or trump, its better than the one you know versus the other you dont know. So i would be forced to have to vote for trump even thoe i wouldnt want to do that. Reporter getting over the word socialism is probably one of the biggest hurdles for democrats in florida. And the issue that is sort of bringing that to the forefront, the hotbutton issue is the crisis in venezuela that you have covered on your show. A lot of them telling me they need to get it right on venezuela. Not only will it affect this new constituency, but that will bleed into the way other people vote who are originally from cuba, colombia, nicaragua. Well check back in with you throughout the day from that forum. Thank you. In miami you have more action in another key surpb swing stasout. We have the world famous fish fry tonight. That includes joe biden and cory booker. The first facetoface since the comments on segregationist senators. Biden called booker to try to smooth things over. Heres what the senator said about that phone call. Did you feel better understood by him at the end of the call . Absolutely. And did you come to a better understanding of his side of this experience . I think i understood very well even before that conversation. I understood where his contentions were. I understood where his hearts was. The fact is its not about me or him. He said things that are hurtful and harmful. We are in south carolina. Nancy cook for politico and National Political reporter for bloomberg with us. Garrett, you covered joe biden in his campaign. Does this say all good, hatch its buried . Reporter i dont think it goes quite that far. Look, i dont expect joe biden and cory booker to continue trading shots if thats how you want to describe it. What i have found, especially talking to voters down here in south carolina, two things. Number one, this has penetrated. This is not one of those washington things. Voters here are paying attention to the conversation. Its very much in the vane of what they care about and are talking about. The voters i have talked to are willing to give joe biden a little bit of a benefit of the doubt. They think hes a commodity. They dont think he is a racist. They think it was a misstatement. They dont want him to handle it in a trumpian way. Listen to this woman explain how she would like to see joe biden handle this. Biden can say some things that even though deep inside i think i know what he means, the fact that he cant come out and apologize for the way he says things. You know, when he knows hes going to tick people off. Dont be trump. Dont act like you didnt say it. Suck it up, buttercup. That doesnt fly with me. Its reflected in the polls we have seen. There is a res srervoir of goodl for joe biden. That could be squandered. Folks want to see him handle this carefully, hallie. Garrett hague in south carolina. Everything is going down, right, where garrett is at the fish fry that will happen later tonight. How do you expect it to go. The fish fry . Yeah the reaction between the candidates and joe biden. It was an unforced error on the part of joe biden. He could have listed any other senators he had a relationship with. Instead he went out of his way to talk about two segregationist senators. There was some alignment on antibussing legislation which he will get asked about. Of course he does not harbor those views, insidious racist views that eastman does. But why go out of his mind to bring this up . And releasing some excerpts from letters in the 70s between senator biden and eastland. They were, actually, kind of eye to eye on this particular issue. How much is an issue for biden as well as other listen, hes got a past. A history that dates back to the 70s that he has to answer for. Other candidates dont have due to their age. Yeah. I think it just points out a huge vulnerability for biden. And i think one that the Trump Campaign will exploit. It doesnt even have to dig deep. You can go through his past, his record and his statements. It shows rifts in the democratic party. It is such a wide field. People are of Different Levels of service in government. And biden represents sort of a very longterm old world view of the democratic party. And a lot of the Democratic Candidates are trying to espouse much more progressive policies, you know, trying to present a vision forward. And comments like this i think date biden. Garrett, i think youre still with us here. Talk about bidens outreach to the congressional black caucus. It seems that is a focus for him and his campaign at this moment. It is and always has been. Biden has deep ties to the africanamerican lawmakers going back to his days in the senate. The congressman from louisiana is a national cochairman for bidens campaign bridged the congressional black caucus. Clyburn is a longtime biden ally as well. For biden to get through episodes like this, fair to assume we will talk about race and how we talk about race are crucial lines. Joe biden has these relationships and he can go back to them again and again in times that are necessary to have powerful voices be valid airports for joe biden not just for policies but his heart. It will be invaluable as a white male candidate in this race. Garrett, thank you. Nancy, stick around. We will go to the Supreme Court for an update as we wait for key decisions later this term. Justice correspondent Pete Williams is joining us for more. Pete, there are several big outstanding decisions. It looks like we will not get them until next week, right . Reporter correct. We have four decisions today. That leaves 12 left. Among the decisions today, the most significant the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a death row inmate in mississippi who said he was repeatedly denied a fair trial because th

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