just asking. let's start with that i am etch p impeachment push. doing double duty on capitol hill today. clearly it is vacation season. there's a high likelihood it is not going anywhere. what are republicans hoping to do? mark maude doueadows and othersg this. >> reporter: this move by the congressional allies at the very least ensures that the first serious talk of i am speechment here on the hill is focused on someone other than president trump. you've got mark meadows and jim jordan and other members of the fl freedom caucus accused rod rosenstein of obstructing their efforts to get to the bottom of what they see is anti-trump bias affecting the fbi investigation and also the continuing investigation into russia's attack on the 2016 elections. so these articles of impeachment accuse rosenstein of withholding documents and information from congress, something he denied. and also accuses him of abusing the fisa warrant application process and we now know that rosenstein signed off on the fbi renewal application to wiretap carter page, the former trump campaign adviser. democrats counter this is really all just a rus to get rid of rosenstein and the thinking is any replacement for him would be more inclined to fire robert mueller or at least narrow the scope of mueller's work. as referred to the russia investigation as a witch hunt. there are a couple of things to know here. first is that only 11 house republicans, only 11 hallie, up to 236 house republicans signed on to this effort which speaks volumes and the second thing is this group of house freedom caucus members at the moment are choosing not to use a legislative maneuver that would force the house to vote on it. the other thing to know, perhaps more important, even if the house did vote to impeach rosenstein, the odds of getting a two thirds margin majority in the senate are highly unlikely. this really is by all efforts and appearances anyway, an attempt to further plit size the mueller probe which is a win for president trump, hallie. >> jeff bennett at the capitol. weird to see you with the columns but i appreciate you coming on the show. now at the university of baltimore school of law and also onset, erin blake for the "washington post" and white house correspondent for pbs news hour and msnbc contributor, friends of the show all, thank you for being on. kim, is there any reality in which mark meadows and jim jordan have a point? do they have any kind of valid leg to stand on here? i don't think so. none whatsoever. the fisa application was authorized and signed by a federal judge. so we already have a system accountability in place for that and judge looked at it and determined there was sufficient evidence to go forward. that's irrelevant. the second thing has to do with this question with respect to documents and essentially congress wants to know how the justice department is conducting an ongoing investigation. which is deeply problematic. >> i was going to ask, they want more documents about the clinton e-mail documentation. is it unreasonable to want to see more information? >> there's no rule preventing that but traditionally there has been a respect for the integrity of the criminal justice system. the idea being we're going to let the prosecutors and fbi agents and investigators do their job based on the facts in the law. we're not going to plit size it. then it becomes winners and losers based on where you are politically. >> why now? why this week? >> because this is the continuation of what we've seen a couple of weeks ago with peter strzok's testimony in front of the house. in front of the house judiciary and oversight committees, we've seen now the fisa warrant being released and there's a calculated efrfort here in whic a series of things all going towards the same goal of justin certifica physici certificating a little date on whether it is on the up and up. >> it seems this is the most o vert move yet to try to shut down a special counsel investigation which they believed is illegitimate and has exceeded essentially the scope of what they've done. >> they say that but there's no basis for that conclusion. i think what we need to keep in mind, prod rorosenstein started clinton and went through bush then he was one of the only hold overs with obama. he has a stellar reputation, to have him dragged over the coals this way is really unfortunate. >> i remember when they liked rod rosenstein. >> he is a man of extraordinary independence and integrity and a reputation in both political parties of a great character. >> he's well respected across both sides of the aisle. he served as u.s. attorney in maryland under president obama. everybody across the board has un unee quickally said this is a man of upstanding character and gold standard at the department of justice. >> he's highly respected, very good guy, smart guy. democrats like him, republicans like him. >> what happened? >> what happened was that republicans decided that they had to go after someone personally in order to justify their dislike for the special counsel investigation. this is in some ways following the pattern that president trump followed to get to the white house in first place. he attacked hillary clinton's policy as much as he attacked the person and attacked republicans in terms of what their belief where they started to saying they were low energy. i think it's working but it's resonating with the base when you go after the person and give a face to the conspiracy theory that rod rosenstein in this case is the face. they want to make this man the person who is the person that is essentially embodies what they think is a plikization. >> there are no intentions currently to fire mueller or fire rod rosenstein, everything is status quo. the president doesn't like the investigation but so far the white house has said the president is not going to take action to end the investigation. they would like it to wrap up quickly but not making moves to actively make that happen. now you have -- now you have donald trump allies on the hill, people he talks to frequently making some of these moves. is this a way to give cover to donald trump do you think? >> we've seen this a number of times, jim jordan, one of the people who is spearheading this has been involved in a number of very tense back and forth with attorney general jeff sessions and rosen stein a few weeks ago. there is a history of these guys going further than the administration is willing to. once the administration says rod rosenstein should be impeached, they say you can just fire him, just do that. >> you talk about tensions that have flared up, remember this moment from a couple of weeks ago that speaks to your point, erin. >>. >> i wonder why you won't give us what you asked for. >> i hope your colleagues are not under that impression. that is not accurate, sir -- >> it is accurate. we have caught you hiding information. >> will you allow the witness to answer? >> why didn't you -- >> order, the witness not permitted. >> i appreciate your service. it's not personal. we want the information. >> i appreciate your saying it isn't personal. sometimes it feels that way. >> kim? >> i think to say it's not personal is a joke. it's malicious and i think it was unusual to see rod rosenstein kind of show his frustration with how obscene this process has really become. >> it is also when you talk about things that have gone down on the hill. what the special counsel investigation, how it's framed by the white house, john bolton in a formal statement talking about why vladimir putin would not be coming to the white house until the first of the year. he called it the russia witch hunt and like a formal white house administrative comment here, agreed it would be after the first of the year. that is a different tone than he struck in the past. and pompeo went to the hill and watched it live yesterday, to defend the administration's actions on russia. we've been tough and put sanctions in place. this president is tough. here's how bob corker responded to that. >> it's the president's public statements that create concern among senators on both sides of the aisle. and i was asking you if in fact there was some you know, some rhyme or reason is that this type of discord would be created. >> the statements actually achieve important policy outcomes for the united states of america. >> some of them do, yes and some of them very damaging. >> i think president trump has given his administration the vocabulary needed to in the vocabulary he wants to use to attack special counsel. he used the word witch hunt and everyone is watching it. you have mike pompeo in an impossible position. he knows that the president -- that people were very critical the way the president handled russia but has to say look what our actions are doing. everyone i talk to say there's president trump's words and actual actions and tough actions the united states has taken against russia. >> thank you. appreciate you coming on. the president is talking not specifically about this today but instead about trade and tariffs. you saw him within the last hour hop on air force one and take off the to the midwest the place where people usually like him and donald trump does well. he has tariffs in place that triggered a trade war and that has farmers in particular and others really ticked offer. kristen welker is over at the white house. kristen, you and i were racing out to the rose garden 24 hours ago, 20 hours ago this time yesterday for that impromptu joint statement in which president trump announced this deal with the eu, very big day he calls it. still some confusion about exactly what went down and what happens today. >> that confusion continues today, hallie as the president departs for the midwest and illinois and iowa. what happened yesterday, both stepped back from eu agreed to buy more soybeans and natural gas and both sides agreed to negotiate the broader terms of a trade deal and try to reverse some of those steel and aluminum tariffs president trump put in place ultimately. but they are still in place right now, hallie. peter and i were here with the treasury secretary a short time ago pressing him on what was actually agreed to yesterday. take a look at that exchange. >> we have an outline as we've talked about yesterday in agriculture and chemicals and medical devices and industrial lng, we'll make a lot of progress. >> doesn't sound like a deal though. the outline doesn't sound like a deal, sounds like an agreement. >> let me tell you, i thought we had a deal. we spent two hours negotiating and went back and forth in rooms and negotiated specific issues. >> so the president is headed to iowa and illinois by the way which has a steel plant which will tout the fact it benefited from the president's trade policies. but also keep in mind those are two states with the largest soybean distributors and comes amid a new nbc news maris poll which shows the president's approval rating is below 40% in three key midwestern states. michigan, minnesota and wisconsin. hallie, remember those are the states that helped sweep him into the white house. so this is becoming a big political problem for this administration. >> that is the story we'll be working on today. kristen welker, kind of a bummer to see you and peter on the north lawn having a party without me. >> it will still be going on when you get here. >> thank you, my friend. we'll talk more with doug jones when he joins us later in the show. first we want to talk about the emotional pleas from two mothers begging a judge to be reunited with their kids. the government now racing to meet that deadline to reunite thousands of separating families at the border. why hundreds of parents may not have their kids after that. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe 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to reunite thousands of migrant parents with kids they were separated from. so let's talk numbers. according to new court filings 917 parents are not likely to be reunified with their kids today. nearly 1,000 parents. of them, 463 are not even in the u.s. anymore, it's possible they were deported. 64 parents have a criminal record. 130 parents have waived reunification and 260 parents were still under review as of monday. for a different set of 217 parents, the likelihood of reunification is not clear because they've been released into the u.s. could be tough to find. here's good news, 879 parents have so far been reunited in i.c.e. custody and 538 more cleared for reunification. so let's put a face to some of these numbers. i want to start with mariana ortensio. what happens next for them? >> reporter: as you said, the government on track to re uniun at least 600 parents by the end of the day today. i want to walk through folks at home how the process happens here on the ground. these parents, most of them are getting reunited in the detention center and transferred here and here they await several days until it's clear for reunification and the children are brought here, most of the reunification happening inside this place, sometimes in the parking lot. once they get together with the kids, they quickly move to four stops, first stop locations set up along the southern border. the biggest one is the basilica in san juan texas, 45 minutes from there. there i saw hundreds of these parents getting cell phones and toilet toiletries. from there they quickly go to mcallen terminal and travel wherever the final destination is in the united states. it was there i was able to catch up with abraham, a recently reunified father with his 6-year-old little girl heidi. he tells me he was thankful to god to have her in his arms but he couldn't help but think of those final days leading up to the reunification and that anguish he lived inside this facility. this is how he described it. >> before you got your child back, how would you describe it? >> translator: it's very difficult to communicate with your family. every one of us to have our kids back. they told us you're going to have your kid back in 20 hours and then it was more time. >> he told me he couldn't help but think of the parents still in there with him when he left. i was able to go inside and speak to one mother and that situation she says there are dozens of mothers still in there and in a quote state of limbo waiting to get reunified. >> thank you for that. many of the parents we're talking about here claiming asylum saying it's too dangerous to try to go back to the country they came from. they have to show up in court to make their case. gabe gutierrez is live in mcallen on that part of the story. you have new audio from inside one of those courtrooms. give us context on what we're about to hear and where are you now? what's behind you? >> hi, hallie, we're in front of the courthouse in mcallen and these are demonstrators that have gathered here to try and draw attention to what's going onto the deadline day. you mentioned the audio from the port of is is a bell detention center. two mothers going to what's called a credible hearing, before a judge, first test for asylum. their attorney provided this audio to us. reagreed not to reveal the names of the two women. but it's indicative of the desperate state of many of these parents and these hearings happen all over the country every day but now with parents struggling to be reunified, they are now dealing with that added pressure. take a listen to the audio. what i want before anything is to have my daughter with me. >> where is your daughter? >> in phoenix, arizona. >> all right, ma'am, is there anything you want to say about your case? >> translator: right now i'm unable to answer any questions, your honor, i just want my daughter with me. >> immigration advocates say it would be difficult for the government to meet today's court imposed deadline. the government has said earlier it would reunite 1,000 families and all eligible families but still many questions about some of those families for example been deported. the texas civil rights project telling us they are representing more than 300 families at this point. only 99 have been reunited at this point. earlier this week the aclu filed an affidavit saying that dozens of families had been misled in order to sign over their rights in exchange for reunification. so certainly still a lot of questions at this point as this process moves forward, hallie. >> gabe gutierrez there. the secretary of homeland security telling our own peter alexander they want to make sure they do this right and don't want to cut corners. thank you. >> coming up after the break. we'll talk about who has been hung out to dry maybe. michael cohen's lawyer explains his clients public feud with the white house and why we might be hearing a lot more from cohen in the 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business but graduated from harvard right here in this area. >> so sessions backing his number two there, rosenstein oversees the special counsel investigation that the president has repeatedly described as a witch hunt. i think now we get to talk about mallcom jenkins, sharing his view with the national anthem debate with lester holt and calling out the nfl when it comes to hypocrisy. >> a whole month, every year, on the field no issues with that. we start talking about black issues and issues of race, now all of a sudden we want football, don't want all of the extra stuff. we want to watch the game. >> jenkins notably raised his fist during the national anthem last year but stressed he and other players are not demonstrating against the military. they are for social justice. he says protesting is the most american thing you can do. malcolm jenkins part of the philadelphia eagles team that won the super bowl. >> the split between cohen and including existence of many more tapes than people first thought. check out this headline from the "washington post." i'm not going to be a punching bag anymore. inside michael cohen's break with trump. the post is reporting the government seized more than 100 recording thats made with his conversations with people discussing to matters that could relate to trump and businesses and trump himself talking. apparently some of the audio is also obtained secretly with an iphone. trump legal team says it's per flexed by the latest moves saying the release does not hurt the president. denied having an affair with karen mcdougal, i spoke to rudy giuliani. first let's bring in the reporter who contributed to the new report and jeff jacobos, and he represented three white house employees during the clinton scandal. back with me "washington post" eric blake. some of these conversations were recorded certificaserp tishsly. >> what we're told is trump had no idea that conversation was recorded and a lot of people didn't know that the many other recordings that we're told existed, the people in those conversations did not know they existed. so yeah, he was recording things and what his people say, what cohen's people say, it was a form of note taking for him. but obviously now people see this as a kind of betrayal. >> you also have reported on how the trump legal team is considering responding to the cohen recordings, right? >> right, they've discussed internally we're told a couple of different options, one which is asking the judge to maybe issue some sort of admonishment or order saying don't go around releasing stuff that's still being reviewed as evidence or just releasing -- this is a bizarre one, just releasing some of the own recordings involving cohen that could embarrass cohen, suggesting there are recordings that maybe trump took or that others took some of those own cohen recordings that they've reviewed. >> asked yesterday whether he thought they were unauthorized the word he used for it. i want to go to jeff, lannie davis says it is how he takes notes. >> what's ironic if trump and michael cohen were taping each other in the same conversation. the legal analysis, if you're a prosecutor, you don't want these tapes out in public because you prefer the potential defendant not to know what's in the tapes. trump himself, his team released the fact of the tape initially because giuliani was trying to discredit cohen. the tape appears to be pretty clear what was happening and it's indisputable now that trump knew about the payment to mcdougal. >> do the other tapes that are supposedly out theres would they have any material that impacted not really any substantive conversation with the president? >> the point is what the cohen value is, he's an insider and if you're a prosecutor, you're looking at him about conversations with the russians. in terms of what's on the tapes, there are a number of different tapes. we don't know what's there. the trump team knows what's there because they reviewed it for privilege. >> giuliani told me the president was not surprised by the release of the tape and surprised when he first heard about it because rumors popped up and then very disappointed like the line my dad uses. what is the behind the scenes reporting you have on where team trump is on this? >> they have a weird relationship. cohen and trump. we've known a little bit about that in the past, cohen has always felt like he's working and would take a bullet for the president and the president always treated him badly. >> not anymore. >> they are clearly opposed. now it's public. they are talking about the stuff. davis is going on the news and talking about this tape being released publicly. i don't see how you come back together after this. i don't know how the president could pardon him after any of this given it would look clearly like it was him covering himself. >> yamiche is shaking her head. >> my report is that the president is fuming about this. he thought cohen would be loyal to him. he values loyalty almost above everything else. he want cohen to stick with him. the other thing i'm hearing, cohen feels very hurt by the way the president was speaking to him and abandoned and telling people around him that he really feels like he's isolated. as a result, he's kind of taking the steps he needs to take to try to ensure he can get the best outcome for his legal issues. >> the dilemma here is what trump -- the problem trump has is obstruction. because if he now pardons cohen, everybody knows 100 tapes out there and know about the tape initially with the payment to mcdougal. >> is that putting the cart ahead of the horse or whatever the phrase is? lanny davis says they are not looking for a pardon. >> that's what they are saying but it looks like cohen -- >> yeah, i think you're trying to jump in there. you write in cohen's gravest hour, trump was leaving him out in the wilderness, which is a glimpse into the mind set of where michael cohen is. i'll let you have the final word here. >> for a long time cohen was hoping he would good financial support or emotional support from the president. that hasn't happened and there are frankly decent legal reasons why it won't happen. now you're seeing two people who have it out for each other. >> devlin barrett and thank you both for coming on. after the break we're back on swamp watch and this time we're looking at the president's profits and new ruling that's giving a closer look or allows a closer look how he's ben fitding from the hotel that sits a few blocks from where we are right now. banned from a press event? how the white house is defending the decision to black list a reporter for asking questions on behalf of all of the rest of us. . so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'm up for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. so what's 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beautiful smiles for life. we have a little news just in from the white house. ten days after that sit-down between presidents trump and put putin, the white house has now updated its official transcript of the presser. it now includes receive mason's question in full. the question was to vladimir putin and whether he wanted donald trump to win the election. he responded yes, he did want trump to win. the white house said that question was initially omitted from the original transcript because the stengrapher uses the audio level and hadn't been turned up for the interpreter in time. we also keep you posted on something else, wading into the swamp. a federal judge is letting a constitutional conflict of interest lawsuit over president trump's hotel move forward. that suit accuses the president of benefitting financially and improperly when officials of foreign or state governments stay or use space at his hotel a few blocks from the white house. that is the so-called ee monthly you meants close and this appears to be first time a federal judge has actually defined what the term means when applied to a president. i'm joined by noah. how significant is this ruling by this judge? >> it's incredibly significant. this ruling as you mentioned is the first time a judge has said what emoluments mean and what it really signifies is that this clause that the framers put into the constitution hundreds of years ago to prevent corruption, really means something. it really means that a president can't be taking things from foreign governments or state governments or federal governments. >> the presidents words have pushed back on this. i remember sitting in news conferences back during the transition in the beginning of the administration when the president's attorneys would say this is not applicable to us. they say the term emollument is a payment made to the official and any financial benefit would be exempt including donations they make back from that. the judge disagreed and you do as well i'm guessing? >> that's right. what the judge said in response to maryland and d.c., is that actually, the definition the president came up with doesn't have any real basis in history and doesn't have any real basis in law. in fact, the idea is to -- to get rid of the tem tags for the president to take things from foreign governments or states that might want favor. what the president is trying to say, you have to show i'm taking a bribe. in fact when the constitution was written, they didn't want to have to show a bribe. they wanted to take that out entirely. >> where does this go from here? what happens next in the lawsuit and what would you want to see? >> sure. the generally the next stage is discovery where the plaintiff in the case maryland and d.c. get to get records to see what payments the president was actually getting from saudi arabia or malaysia or any of the countries that brought business into him or state of maine or those kinds of things. so that's what ought to happen next. obviously the president is not going to want that. he may try to appeal in the middle of the case, which is unusual. but where this should go next is discovery to try to figure out what the facts really are. >> noah, appreciate it. we want to talk about something else making headlines. the white house this morning responding to some very tough criticism for shutting out a cnn reporter from a rose garden oppress event after she peppered the president with questions at the end of a white house photo-op with the head of the european commission. here's what happened. >> thank you all very much. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you, everybody. thank you. >> other tapes, mr. president? >> thank you, everybody. >> so again, her questions were about michael cohen, were about vladimir putin. that reporter is kaitlan collins on behalf of the rest of the media who couldn't go in. she was told her questions were inappropriate for the venue and here's the thing, reporters shout out questions all the time at photo-ops, i have many times. sometimes the president answers, sometimes he does not. but everyone all the time asks questions. you don't have to take my word for it. watch. >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> gaspipe line. >> thank you very much. >> mr. president bombings an act of domestic terror or hate crime, any kmebcomments in the bombings. >> the bombings in aus inor terrible. >> black with meer erin blake. we ran that mash-up to show that the problem this instance when they asked the reporter to leave and she was asking questions, that happens all the time with me. it is an accepted part how it happens because of what you saw. the president will answer questions and he's the president of the united states. >> and she was posing questions about michael cohen and whether or not the president felt det y betrayed. >> the president had been tweeting about exactly that hours before. >> exactly. it was a question she should ask on behalf of people like me. he doesn't have to answer. >> it's his prerogative not to answer. >> the white house saying she was barred from a public open event. it wasn't as if it was a small meeting pick and choose what reporters, this was an oppress event people not part of the pool, a dangerous press event and i and others happy people are talking about this and networks like fox news. >> saying we stand with cnn on the issue with access. kellyanne conway in a response ton the driveway. do we have that? >> the question isn't are the press allowed to ask questions, the president we answer them routinely. it's i think being in that incident, just being polite to the process, to the presidency, to the protocol and not shouting questions long after the press has politely been asked to leave and long after you had an opportunity to be there with the president. i think it's a very reasonable question. >> bill shine recently came onto the white house because this has been happening since january 20th of 2017 when the president was inaugurated. i know because i've been there. the did he have something to do with this? he was the one who called kaillan collins in and said in essence disinvited, use of the word ban which seems to be a semantics argument. if you're not allowed in the rose garden, you're not allowed in the rose garden. >> he is the one x factor that has changed in the last few weeks. i would argue this ins larty, no readouts with calls of foreign leaders and no details when the president announced he's landed a trade deal with the european union. we're seeing no readout from his meeting with vladimir putin. there's one basically one briefing per week. they don't want to be engaging with the press it's clear. so now this is what happened. >> the president does answer questions and that should be not noted. what happened yesterday as i said as the white house correspondents 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president trump is on his way to iowa where more than a third is tied to agriculture. trading partners started slapping retaliatory tariffs on corn, soy beans and pork. ed president is heading to a steel plant. talking in front of steel workers who have largely been supportive of his trade moves. but overall a bunch of states that supported him are starting to become concerned about the tarif tariffs. one of those states, alabama, voted 62% for the please in 2016, but according to the u.s. chamber of commerce, it would be the sixth hardest hit state from the tariffs. joining me is democratic senator doug jones. thanks for coming on. much appreciated. >> thanks. good to be here. >> talk about these tariffs. the president came out in the rose garden and said there was a deal struck with the eu. talks to keep talking. are you satisfied? is that enough? >> no. i mean look, that's a fine for a start. i applaud him for a step. but it's only one small sliver of a much bigger pie. alabama is an exporting state. we spend the automobile tariffs alone, which is really where i've been the most vocal for autos and our farmers, automobiles, we -- export $11 billion worth of automobiles. we're the third largest in the state. and those auto tariffs are going to hurt. interesting thing about i think the announcement, i think it's a step that could have been taken several months ago. you didn't have to beat your chest and threaten people in order to talk to our friends. the eu is our friends. at least as far as the european union. >> you talked about auto tariffs. you've actually cosponsored a bill that would in part delay any from going into place. this was not part of something that was part of the agreement yesterday but do you think right now, is the threat of auto tariffs over? or do you believe that's still a concern? >> it's still very real. again, the eu is only a part of the auto tariff problem. in alabama and in tennessee, where senator lamar alexander and i cosponsored this legislation. asia is our biggest market and there's no attempt to try to end the war with china, with asia. >> so what can you do, senator, the president -- as you well know, did not back you in your race. he has been obviously made overtures since then but are you having conversations with members of the west wing. you have an interesting role. are you using your voice with the white house? >> i'm using my voice mainly through the media and senate floor and through colleagues like lamar alexander. those folks have the biggest ear of the president. it's lamar alexander that's been sassy, other republicans who share the same concerns. they're doing a lot of the talking as well. because they're farmers, auto manufacturers are all getting hurt. i'm using, talking to people in the state, letting folks know in alabama that the president that they supported is doing something that's going to hurt them. and they need to speak up. they will have a much more impact on the president. i think what you saw yesterday is an im impact from the chorus of voices that supported him. >> that's an interesting you thing you said. what we have seen or the last two years. president's supporters stick with him almost no matter what. when you say the president's policies are hurting you and take it back to alabama. what are the reactions? >> no. they may still end up supporting the president. they want to see a good trade deal and fair trade deals but they're making their voices known there might be a better way to do it. i think he takes note of that. i don't think sok he's just bullying his way through with all of this. i think the president is taking note of the very phones thfolks supported him. and they're going continue to hurt. >> you very notably, this week, responded to the president's tweet calling tariffs the greatest by writing back they are not. they're the worst. you said his taxes and tariffs are great for one thing, killing u.s. jobs. do you believe that the $12 billion so called bailout package farm aid package that they're pushing is the right solve at all? >> no. i really -- look, my farmers don't want aid. they want trade. they don't want handouts. they want trade. i think this is a very slippery slope because once you start handing people money, you're going to have other people with their hand out. i've been told there's like 42,000 requests for exemptions pending in the commerce department now. if they don't get those, are they also going to say we need help? i also think it creates a problem with the wto if we start sub sid zi subsidizing folks. >> i've got to ask you with the fre supreme court nominee. let me ask you this. democrats want him to hand over every document related to his past employment. senator grassley calls that an obstruction tk tickactic? >> it is not an obstruction tactic. it is due diligence. democrats did that, senator -- hand over whatever they wanted and however they could work it out. fact of the matter is this nominee has a large body of work. both as a judge and within the white house in the administration. we need to look at all that. i prosecuted church bombing case. we let everybody look at those. you need to see all the documents. >> you haven't set a date yet to meet. what's the holdup? the hold i want to see the hearing. what questions are asked and answered. so i can supplement. i just want want to reinvent the wheel. i'd like to see what he says and does. >> senator doug jones, thank you. will you come back on the show? >> absolutely. sure. any time. >> glad to hear it. wrap up here with what our sources are saying this all sor. >> republicans are more and more worried about the trade war and its impact on the 2018 election. i think we saw it in the statements that came out after the bailout of the farmers. we're seeing it show up in some of these polls like the ones we were talking about across the midwestern states. the worry is not that the voters are going to not support trump or they're going to cross over and go for democrats. danger is they stay home and say i generally like the president but this is hurting me personally. >> kind of speaks what the senator was just saying. >> exactly. i think that we're starting to see -- one anecdote from the post report on this was mike round, the senator from south dakota said he's seeing fewer and fewer make america great again hats. >> the hat polling. >> yard signs. >> what are your sources saying? >> women who are running for governor in several states like kansas and wi and rhode island are making abortion a part of their campaign it's so much of a local issue that state legislators have so much say, frankly on how apportions have been curtailed even in the future that they're worried about this. some states have so called trigger laws which if row v wade were overturned it would make it illegal. it's obviously something that made him still very popular among evangelicals. >> will you come back? sure. >> all right. good. you and senator jones. thank you. you're a turn on. thank you very much. quickly wrap up as always with today's big picture. from spain. check it out. very strong photo. waving yellow and black flares. arms up running through the streets in barcelona, one of thousands of taxi drivers rallying today against uber and apps like it. they say they're taking away jobs. some did turn violent evening apps to temporarily suspend services. photographer here for afp and getty. as always would love to hear your thoughts. i am going to be reporting more tonight on trade with nbc nightly news with lester holt. right now stephanie ruhle picking up coverage. i feel like this is a super bowl day. trade, taf tariffs. >> then uber. that company has almost $80 billion valuation all built on growth. people outside the u.s. don't want it to grow that could be a problem. thank you. have a great day. good morning everyone. i'm back. i am stephanie ruhle. my partner ali velshi off today. thursday, july 26. let's get smart. >> we have an outline, the first phase of that is to deal with the steel and aluminum tariffs and rye sip cal tariffs. and then an outline, as we've talked about

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