Job. Lawmakers are raising serious questions. Listen. If these accusations are found to be false, then i think there could be a confirmation hearing. I think if theyre found to be true, i think it puts him in a world of hurt the. So we are following that on the hill. And also on the hill as you look at the live capitol dome, were watching for someone else, french president Emmanuel Macron. Thats because hes addressing Congress Later this hour. We might get more specifics on his talks about iran, syria, trade, and climate. Plus, the travel ban gets its day in court because right now the nations nine top justices are hearing a challenge to one of the president s controversial policies. Justices will decide whether ties travel ban as you took a live look was down discriminate or to protect americans. Well take you there. Weve got our team here this morning for a busy 60 minutes. Theyre ready to rock and roll and lets start with garrett hake over on capitol hill. In garrett, in our report thong the last couple days i have heard from celebration officials they are going fight. Im told jackson does not want to back down. He wants this hearing. Congress has giving him a red light, right . Senator tester was out on our story on the today show this morning talking i lit bit about how he sees this developing and these acc zass again accusati against jackson. Number one semiproper doling out of Prescription Drugs. Its a big, big problem to the point where some of the white house even calling the candy man. This often happens on overseas trips where there were many time zone changes. These are Prescription Drugs, theyre controlled substances. As a medical doctor, you need to treat them as such. So, garrett, white house sources have pointed to what they say is an internal review that found no improper usage by dr. Jackson. Tell me what youre hearing on the hill because i understand in the last two minutes you tried to catch up with senator tester again . Reporter yeah, thats right. I talked to senator tester very briefly here hes was leaving a hearing this morning. He says that all of these allegations are still very much under investigation. There is as of now no timeline to move forward with this hearing. All though the option remains open, if nothing is found. I think we have some of the sound bar of our very brief conversation with senator tester that we can play. Take i listen. We havent talked to not talked to members of the committee because we skrnt havent confiend e veend. Talked to them individually. For the most part theyre doing the same thing i am and just trying to figure out where the truth is. Have you had anymore accusations brought to your office . I would have to go back and talk to my staff on that. There have been people come up and talk to people like you that we werent aware of. Reporter and theres a conspike cue lus with us difference here today among republican members of that Veterans Affairs committee. Yesterday i talked to seller of them throughout the course of the day especially before the allegations were a little bit more flushed out said were going to see how this plays out. Wasnt to make sure we talk to him, make sure these conversations continue. So far notable absence of comment from two republican snores on that committee not wanting to say one way or the other when we tried to pin them down and whether jackson is qualified or if he should continue in this process. A time thing here. Congress is out next week, the senate is out next week, so its like that i this hearing slides at least another full week. As you well know, when you lose that kind of momentum in Something Like this in washington, it can be very difficult to get it back. So not necessarily a position dr. Jackson wants to be in today, if indeed he wants to continue with this process at all. Garrett hake on capitol hill. Thank you much. I want to bring in hans over on the north lawn. Thanks for filling in for us and walk us through about where we know where Ronnie Jackson stands. Because as garrett talked about youre look at midmay for the next steps, but they want those next steps. Reporter yeah, thats another information point. was clear from the white house there wasnt a battle plan to get this admiral through the confirmation process. At the pentagon that was even more aparent. We kept going up asking about these allegations. They toind refer us to the white house. And in that information void there are these stories that started to spread giving voice by jon tester alleging that there is problems in the office, that there was drinking on foreign trips, Prescription Drug issue that weve heard about a lot. Ive talked to former Obama Staffers on this the theyre all clear that this basically involved ambien, which say sleep aid which sometimes staffers take when they do go overseas. Then here at the white house we heard from two norvels this watchdog report that are nothing came up in this wash dog report that raised any flags. I think more important lit line from the pentagon late yesterday it was a private line that is that admiral jackson wouldnt have received that promotion from captain to admiral wrornt have earned his first star if there had been anything untoward in any of his internal reviews. Thats the argument. But its difficult to make that argument when youre already trying to defend, youre already trying disprove things that are out there. And now we have yet another information void. If you do have a full week and then even longer before he can clear his name in a public forum that allows these stories out there to have even more legs. Hallie. Thank you much. I want to bring in john sults. An army officer who served in the war. Here in d. C. Or panel for the next 50 four minutes, annie lins sky and msnbc contributor josh barrow. Thank you all for being here. John, let me start with you. It has been so secret that vote vets and donald trump have not always seen eye to eye had the where do you stand on the nom maftion jack sond at stories that have come out over the last two days . I think we stood where we stand last month. He was completely unprepared. Is a medical doctor who treats patients and has never led a Major Organization in his entire career. He was unprepared to deal with the complexities at the department of Veterans Affairs. I think more importantly whats happened over the last 24 hours is concerning. It is true that theres extreme vetting when you get promoted in the military, but that doesnt mean that there wasnt any type of misconduct from the admiral while he was over at the white house. And so going off of what we heard in senator tester on the lead, the navy needs to investigate this immediately. If will is some type of misconduct thats happened, that could preclude him from moving forward in his career. Opioid issues are huge inside military and at the department of Veterans Affairs. In fact, in the Wisconsin Senate race were actually seeing this issue play out from our organization. So these are concerning issues in the veterans community. It sound to me like senator tester in my conversations with him and other conversations that it didnt indicate this was an opioid issue regarding overprescription, it was more like sleep aides on flights. Would have you supported jackson prior to these accusations coming out . You didnt, right . No, because he didnt have any understanding or any experience to lead this department. Just because hes a doctor so how but i dont mean it interrupt you, but given that, how do you move forward . In your statement youve asked for an apology for donald trump for nominating him in the first place. You and i both know thats probably never going to happen. Of course not. What say constructive way to move forward here . Constructive way for the president to move forward is to actually go out and vet people prior to announcing their names, not just the guy that you like because youre buddies and you nominate them to lead one of the most critical agencies in our government. Do a vet, find out where they are on core issues. Where are you on opioid to represent the department of foreign affairs, where you are on privatetation, the choice program, the department of Veterans Affairs, you know, works on. And we have absolutely no idea where, you know, rornny jack spohn is on any of these issues when hes nominated. So finding a serious candidate who can handle the department and will take good stances on these issues will be a good start. Given that you have these questions, would you want to see him go through a confirmation hearing to be faced with these questions . If they want to have a confirmation hearing its going to be a brutal catastrophe for the administration. When donald trump stands up and says i wouldnt go through with the hearing it means he knows theres something tlels. If they want to have it, they can are v it. But i cant see him getting through with all the concerns that everyone has. I cant see this guy taking the stances that would make the veterans groups feel that they should Tell Congress to endorse the nomination of someone wholly unqualified for the job. I want to put you on pause and bring in annie and josh. Because one of the things that was referenced is the president s statements in that conference in the east room. The president candidly said if it was me i wouldnt do it. It seems like, and i have in had no push back from any of my sources inside the white house, that the president is setting the stage for a graceful exit. That characterization is not in dispute. Absolutely. And it seems like that was going to be next thing he was going to say. I was waiting yesterday for a statement coming out that he was going to be withdrawing his nomination. But then weapon got t got the ot of the white house, which is jackson was at the oval and meeting with the president. For a positive meeting between the two of them. You have democrats too and john has made clear where he stands on the confirmation hearing process. But some democrats seem to be in a way reserving judgment. It seems like folks want to know more. Heres what was on msnbc this morning, josh. I had my doubts already and wanted a lot of questions answered before these latest revelations that are very disturbing. Do you think that dr. Ronnie jackson should withdraw his nomination . Think thats something hes going to have to decide. Im driven a little bit nuts that these allegations have become the central issue in this confirmation hearing because i think what were going to have is were going 0 to have a mixed record. You have these allegations but then you also have a number of positive performance reviews from president obama during his time in office, have you people who have come out to defend his professional work record. The thing it distracts from is that hes this guy whos a physician and by many accounts an accomplished physician whos being appointed to run an agency with 375,000 employees. Second Biggest Agency in the federal government. Its an enormous Hospital System and an enormous Financial Services provider. Its an extremely complicated agency that he doesnt have experience for. If we have a confirmation hearing thats focused around these sort of fuzzy allegations where youre hearing people making ditch claims on both sides of them and members of congress doesnt they cant evaluate for themselves whats true and not true, you can lose the more important question, which is whether this guy is qualified to run the va. Id be inclined to bracket these issues. These are questions for the military and medical board. But really the question before congress is this the right guy to run the va . I think the clear answer to that is no regardless of whether hes allegations are true or not. The other question in front of conglaes lawmakers are getting asked by people like garrett hake is this administration doing enough to vet out these folks before they get sent for these nominations. Mitch mcconnell was pushed on this yesterday. Heres what he said. Its up to the administration do the vetting and i think those are the kind of questions you ought to direct to them. And im assuming at some point here it will be cleared up as to the way forward with regard to the new va secretary. Let me pull back more broadly for a second. Its Ronnie Jackson, there are questions now about there have been scott pruitt, there are now new questions about mick mulvaney, this New York Times piece that came out that said that mulvaney apparently said the thing that nobody in washington says even though everybody thinks it. Think we have the quote here at times where he basically talks about paying money for lobbyists. Like this idea that if the lobbyists gave him money, he might meet with them, if they didnt he wouldnt meet with them. His spokesman pushed back and is he he was talk about the communicating and act interacting with citizens. This was quite the eye roll zbrl but, you know, during the Campaign Donald trump whenever woe ask him whyd you give all this many to democrats, he said im a businessman. He said im a businessman because thats what gets people to talk to you. I think it hasnt hurt him because i think, as you say, this is how people assume it works. And donald trump is saying it out loud and people dont hold that against him because other people are doing this they just know theyre not supposed to say it. At some point does the turmoil inside the cabinet, the question marks surrounding some of these folks, has it just become to folks out there, noise . I dont know. I mean, you look at what a lift it was to get pompeo over the threshold. He was a member of congress, but outside groups had to spend millions of dollars in key districts to get him over. So i think it begins to erode a little bit of trust in whether this is a president whos taking this some of these basic rules seriously. John, final thoughts to you here. Do you believe that folks in washington are risking playing politics with veterans . Well, think people in washington always play politics with veterans. Think weve seen that time and time again. I think more concerning with the president right now is hes putting somebody or he wants to put someone in charge of the veteran affairs that hes personally comfortable with rather than finding the person that could do the job the best, someone whos loyal to him. And i think thats concerning for veterans across our country. It sounds like what youre saying is its to you less about the allegations that have come out and more about the experience factor or, in your opinion, lack thereof. Yeah. I mean, i think that the major concern here should be how do we take care of our veterans . I think the stuff thats come out and concerning seasoned should be looked at, but its the final straw for him in regards to what we thought of him anyway. Thank you. Im going to ask annie and josh to stick around because we want to show thank you live look of whats happening outside the Supreme Court right now. These are protesters outside because inside President Trumps travel ban is being put to the legal test. The president is hoping this one goes better than overnight when a federal judge stopped him from killing the daca program which is intended to protect about 700,000 documented immigrants brought to this country when they were younger. Were following both sfrors here and washington. Reporter hallie there are is the first time the Supreme Court looks at the marpts of the travel ban. It was here last year but that was on an reasonable doubt off how broadly to interpret the Lower Court Rulings against it. This time the Trump Administration says this one is different, that its the result of a Worldwide Survey of how good other countries were at providing Background Information on people who apply for visas and how good those countries are at fighting terrorism. But the challengers here say this is the same problem as the other versions of the travel ban, that it exceeds the president s Legal Authority because it bans people from an inn tire country. And secondly they say its unconstitutional, its basically a muslim ban papered over. The Supreme Court will hear this case and it will decide it by late june. And the argument comes just after a federal judge had another blow to the policy that the president wanted to stop the daca program. Two other federal judges said daca must continue add the government must allow people already enrolled to reny. This federal judge in washington agreed with them but went further and said the government must also accept new daca applications. But he put his ruling on hold for three months until late july giving the administration 90 more days to come one a justification for why they think its illegal and should be stopped. So that will play on. Daca is an issue thats undoubtedly coming back here to the Supreme Court too. Hallie. Thank you for that are analysis outside the Supreme Court. Overnight we want to talk about the alarm bells going off in arizona because republicans are waking up to a victory, a win in that states eighth congressional district. Debbie lesko the projected winner in a special election. The president tweeting out some congratulations this morning. Just a couple minutes ago over on capitol hill, our kasie hunt caught up with the republican chairman of the House Freedom caucus. Mark meadows who is make news on this. Watch. Debbie lesko will join the freedom caucus, is that right . That will be a decision for her to make. Weve supported her. I endorsed her in the primary. We look forward to her joining our ranks. We will certainly take a vote to offer her an invite to join the freedom caucus. We do anticipate that she will based on conversations. But you can never make a commitment like that without knowing that youre a member of congress so we look forward to having those discussions in the next day or so. Mark meadows there the heres the thing