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MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson March 23, 2018

Making asia nervous, stocks down a trumps tariffs on china. We got our eye on the Justice Department, the deputy ig is about to make a major announcement on Law Enforcement. Pete williams in this that room right there. When we know the news you will know the news. Our team is hear and ready to go. Ill start with nbcs jeff bennet at the white house. Jeff, this white house whiplash situation with the president issuing the veto threat after his own administration repeatedly said he was good with this on any bus bill is to say, the least surprising. Well play what mark short said on this show yesterday about the exact situation. Listen. Hes totally fine and down . Halle theres several thing wed ask for in our budget we should go back to and say are you happy and those are this thing we wanted to see. So jeff, what happened . Well, halle, President Trump says he intends to veto the bill because it doesnt fully solve the docket issue nor fund his border wall. The president writes im considering a veto of the omnibus bill based on the fact that the the Daca Recipients have been abandoned by the democrats, not even mentioned in bill and the border wall which is desperately needed for our National Defense is not fully funded. Government funding is final midnight. This could be the third shut down on the president s watch. Senior aids informed us yesterday that President Trump would sign the measure. Yesterday, nick mull via any came into the briefing roam and answered his own question. He said is the president going to sign the bill, the answer is yes. Why, because it funds his priority. Mark short sotood in this spot and said 24 hours ago and says the budget wall funding is what was asked for. Kellyanne conway the s the third white house official who made statements about the president s intention to sign the measure. Heres what she said earlier today. This president gave us the most historic middle class tax cut ever. And what that means is, hes able to build on that economic message through the spending priorities. People are trying to go back on the taxes, now its not important well its well continue to brag about that all year long because its key. And no government shut down. Reporter now, theres one thing to mention, the president might be trying to position himself politically among the conservative base who have blasted this omnibus is waisting, wasteful spending that can blow a hole in the deficit. That said, i want to read to you what is the briefest of brief white house statements. The tweet stands for itself. Halle. They all do and they always do. Jeff bennet. Im going to ask you to stay right there. I want to get to msnbc Garrett Hague on the hill. The president has tweeted Something Like this as a negotiating tactic. In this instance you are in an empty haulway, the negotiation is over, members of congress has left. This thing was supposed to have been a done deal. Reporter absolutely, the opportunity for negotiation was over the last several weeks when the white house was working with congressional leaders on putting this bill together, not after post houses have passed it and everyone has left town. Yeah, its an empty hal way, there was one hearing scheduled in the house today rkt ive showed up. Its been postponed. We have bob corker who voted against the omnibus. He said hed bring the president a pen to sign that veto. Im outside bob corkers office, hee not here and not coming in today. These folks have gone home. If the president does veto this, youll be looking into the face of a potentially prolonged government shut down. If there was an agreement on daca and the border wall it would have been on this bill. Second, youll have a massive credibility problem for Republican Leaders who have been saying the president was on board with this bill. Who was paul ryan yesterday. When we do big legislation its very common for me to brief the president on big legislation. We do that all the time. Ryan there referring to his visit to the white house today before Mitch Mcconnell was on speakerphone. They felt they had sold the president on this bill. Its another remind for people on the hill that speaks for this president expect this president. This does highlight wen adviser to the president come out and talk about his position, we dont foe that this is the case because this is this third or fourth time that we have seen a major issue like this, the president come out and contradict exactly what his adviser said. As youre pointing out its also a credibility problem for Republican Leadership. I have to say was stunned by your tweet this morning. Senator lange ford was on the hill giving a tour right if. Reporter yeah. I ran into James Lang Ford of oklahoma here with his family, he was Walking Around showing them the capital. I made it sort of a passing comment to this as i was running to a camera, we might be here all week if theres a shut down and he laughed. I saw him later and said, no real have you seen this tweet. He said he thought he was the only senator in the house today. It just goes to Show Congress thought this was a done deal and they were out of here. Were going to see out this shakes out throughout the date. Garrett hague thank you for that. As you guys know this is not the only big headline out of washington. Theres also this staff shake up that happened late yesterday. Today the big story is how this will dramatically shift Foreign Policy. John bolten starting at the white house, april 9th, seven days from now. All eyes will be on that supposed meeting with kim jongun supposedly in may. Now, hes tasked with being one of the point percent for diplomacy. Then the nuclear deal. Bolten wants to rip this up just like his new boss promised when he was a candidate. Also the relationship with russia. Bolten has suggested their relationship was a false flag allegation although he later walked that back. Nbcs jeff bennet still with us. This is sort of the other hat for the today, the National Shake up. This unlike the veto threat sitting well with a lot of republicans right. Reporter right. Marco rubio owe and also tom cotton. Take a look at what lindsay gram had to say about this. I think hes going to help the president shape policies that make us all safer. The year of leading from behind is over. John bolten is a leading from the front kind of guy. Hes the right guy at the right time where the view i think will reinforce the president s instincted to go after our enemies and be a better ally. This is a shift weve seen over the last couple of weeks. The departure of rex tillerson, gary cohn and mcmasterism people who have at times tried to put the breaks on the president s America First instincts. Theyre all gone replayed by pompeo and now bolten. This is coming weeks ahead of major policy decisions that could effect u. S. Foreign policies for decades to come. Jeff bennet there. I promise were done with you at least for now. With us ash carter and our panel for the next 51 minutes. Nancy cook and jonathan allen. Thank you for being here on what turned out to be a real business friday morning. Mark, ill start with you. You have john bolten on the global stage again. You made an interesting point earlier when you were talking with our team that the veto threat is tied to this National Security issues were talking about. Sure. Let me First Respond to what senator gram said. John bolten is the wrong guy at the wrong place at the wrong time. We can talk about that later. I saw you scribbling on your photos. Its just wrong. He has the wrong temperament. He has policies thats going to reinforce trumps worse ideas. Weve got the policy changes, the inevitability of conflict i think is in boltens mine. And finally its his if youve talk to people who have worked with him relentlessly effective when working a trumps able. Which donald trump is going to love. This is a trump guy. Right. Bolten was accused of being a quote, serial abuser at the state department in terms of the way he treated his people. Item not going to say that managerment is everything, but the way he manage that staff has to be the number one concern we have here. We know he has trumps policy ideas. One of thing mcmaster was able to do was put together an effective National Security team. Boltens going to take all that down. When we talk about the policy implications for this. David sanger has that smart piece in the new york times. He talks about this is one of the most aggressive teams surrounding the president. I want to play you a bit of what bolten had to say on north korea, iran and russia. Watch. The president should get out of the nuclear deal with iran, resume all of our previous sanctions, put an increased economic pressure on the ra gem. Thank you for this opportunity to address the russian people on the 20th anniversary of the adoption of the russian constitution. I think this session between the two leaders could well be a fairly brief session where trump says tell you youve begun total denuclearization negotiations. You can tell me right now or well start thinking of something else. How can you be tasked with helping to have these two guys talk . I think bolten has not been super interested in the diplomatic channels and we saw that a few weeks ago at the warehouse when south korean officials came out and said were going to have this meeting. I think he has much much more hawk ish views as weve seen with the pompeo coming in, the president is building a team now that reenforces his ideas. There arent a lot of people around him that push back and offers other ideas. The next deadline is midmay here, who in the president s orbit is not going to tell him to not keep that deal in place . No one. The president doesnt like the deal, hes been convinced he shouldnt completely back out of it time again. I think youre right to point out the voices against it. I assume some people on the secure staff will be there, professionals at the state department will be there. Its only a matter of time before theyre overridden by the politicals. Whats interesting is i think thats true of all the people surrounding the president right now in these Foreign Policy rules. The other piece about people surrounding the president. I was speaking with author chris ripple yesterday with another piece i was doing separately about how the president was releasing people in march without having a chief of staff. Ripple said listen, this is rit riddled with president s who have used this as a model and thats important of a president having people around him who can tell them no. Hes not surrounded by a ton of people who will tell him no, perhaps say for john kelly mark. Concerning . Im not sure john kelly will tell him no all the time. Its very concerning. During the vietnam reinforcing the worst ideas that come out there, not thinking about the alternatives. What weve seen, trump like the muscular policy, blow them up. No ones there to tell him, have you thought through the ramifications of the action, is this the best course . Are you going to have a preventive war with the koreans thats going to kill millions when you have an opportunity potentially for some diplomacy . Also talk about who john bolten is. Ive got to imagine hes a sighing brett of relief. You spoke about the asian markets. Im concerned about china with bolten. We think of bolten in pcoa, north korea. Right. Boltens been outspoken in terms of the u. S. Should consider itself relationship with taiwan. If theres a hot button issue for china, it looks like is what its going to be is taiwan. Let me leave with this, with Richards Point this morning. The president is spoiling for war on several fronts. On the political front with robert mueller. On the economic front with china with tariffs. And potentially on the actual sort of military threat front bringing in john bolten look at this aggressive stance, for example, iran. Im worried every day were going to walk backwards into war. There are good reasons to be prepared for the iranians to go become on their word. Theres good reason to worry about kim jongun. We dont need the president to create more of those reasons. Mark i appreciate you coming on. I want to get to some of the news with the Justice Department. That live announcement happening now. You see on the right of your scene, department rod rosenstein. Leader from the Treasure Department from the fbi are also there. Nbcs National Security and justice reporter julia amesly is watching it for us. This is a new announcement on the cyber warfare front correct . Correct. Its not the first we have seen where the Justice Department and fbi has launched a very deep investigation, used treasury to issue sanctions against people who they will probably never be able to bring to the United States for charges. In this case its nine iranians who has been charged with stealing properties, from hacking into universities and even some government institutions. We know the u. S. Has a lot of policies that they try to prevent people from countries like iran, klein and russia from getting this high level research. One reason why some people from this country arent allowed to participate in that government research. These nine iranians were able to hack into universities, 144 of them and was able to get into the properties without having to come on u. S. Soil. They increasingly attempt to property from americans inagain nudity by infiltrating our computer systems, stealing or select call properties and invading our control on technology exports. What this means is that this is not just fine individuals that were sanctions but this was government based. These people worked for what they called the magna institute, that is backed by the iranian government. This has happened in china and just recently with the Russian Hackers who were also sanctioned as well. Julia answerly there. Thank you very much. I wanted to get to some breaking news happening now. Weve been telling you about this hostage situation at a supermarket in southern france, it is now over. The gunman who took those hostages is now dead. We confirmed two he or she substantials is dead as well. President e e manuel mccone says one officer in stable condition after being shot. Back here in washington we are told by the white house that the president had been informed about this situation. Were monitoring for more on that story. In china, President Trump fighting back with tariffs. What does that mean for your money as the market react . 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How can they achieve watch, i did it. To change the the school board, do it again. Youve been speaking with the parents. T kind of private. I can tell you why is it important to you . Nbcs marianna ar tense owe and our colleague mike mentally watching up with former vp biden. More on the rally tomorrow. Were also watching whats happening on wall street. Stocks are trying to bounce back in its first 50 minutes of trading. The trade war sent the dow into a dive yesterday but the big board is showing its up about 50 points, at least at this point. Thats after china announced plans to retaliate against the United States. Msnbcs david is live with the new york stock exchange. Explain why the market is concerned about this potential escalating trade war . Theres a lot less anxiety there was. The big dow up about a quarter. It was up higher this morning. When you go back to the length back in 2016, you remember how on lebs fight we saw a deep dive in the markets as the votes came in. Well see a dramatic chang to trade policy. It seems like over the last couple of weeks weve seen the makings of this happening. I think the Pivotal Moment came when that list was going to be widened. You have australia, argentina, the countries in the european union. They bought more time, a little more than a month to negotiate with the white house over whether or not theyre going to be exempted from those tariffs. We also have learned david, what

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