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Cvs and wallgreens. We start with a president with no regrets in 2020 vision. A week from today President Trump will be holding two rallies the day before an important runoff vote for senate in mississippi despite an electoral map thats getting bluer as more returns come in. President trump sounding confident about his political instincts in the new interview with fox news basically defeat, what defeat . Nbc News White House correspondent jeff bennett with us. You end one election cycle. You start the next almost immediately. Are we getting a sense of whether the president as looked at the results and decided to change his tone . Reporter that is the question ive been asking the president s aids for the last two weeks. The sense im getting is the president is not really backing away from his selfstyle persona as a nationalistic culture warrior. He thinks that his 2016 play book worked fine when the data said it wouldnt. And he also believes, im told, it was key to Republicans Expanding their majority in the senate in the midterms. So the president clearly is focussed only on the wins and the way we know that is because despite saying repeatedly that a vote for any republican candidate anywhere any place before the midterms, it was a proxy vote for him, hes now not taking any responsibility for the gop losses in the house. Take a look. I won the senate. You dont mention that. Excuse me. I won the senate. Thats a far greater victory than it is for the other side. If you cant carry, and you certainly didnt carry it two weeks ago, michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, youre not going to get reelected. I didnt run. I wasnt running. My name wasnt on the ballot. I am on the ticket. You got to go out to vote. Im not on the ballot, but on a certain way, im on the ballot. I would give myself an a plus. Is that enough . Can i go higher than that . We have a lot of victories coming. I think if i go too low key, were not going to have those victories . The president gives himself an a plus. Despite the strengths in rural areas and small towns, a big question at this point stemming from the 2018 election is whether suburban demographics, whether that will block his bid for a second term. Because the midterm results reveal a widening rural suburban divide where you have growing numbers of College Educated voters. Especially in the suburbs who seem to be rejecting President Trump, and what theyre doing is helping to boost democrats. On the flip side, though, i can tell you trump aides are hoping, betting that democrats are going to overplay their hand and go too far left and basically wind up alienating the voters they won in november, two weeks ago. The president is also making headlines today because hes also trashing admiral bill mcraven, the Legendary Navy s. E. A. L. In the bin laden raid. He dised him by saying he should have found bin laden sooner. It was actually the cia that was tasked with finding bin laden. Mcraven was responsible for killing him which he effectively did. Heres the tweet the president sent out after all of this. He says of course we should have captured Osama Bin Laden long before we did. We paid pakistan billions of dollars and they never told us he was living there. Thats a story were tracking. These comments are certainly fitting a pattern where the president has disparaged former veterans. Most notably the late john mccain, when the veterans have chosen to criticize him. Je je jeff, thank you. We have a panel. Mimi roka. Rick tyler, and cornell belcher. All of them msnbc analysts. Mr. Tyler, let me start with you. Doesnt sound like the president is going to change anything about his style or tone. Should that concern republicans at all who are heading into 2020 . Absolutely. Look, this is not a surprise. The president doesnt want to take responsibility for a defeat. This is the biggest gains democrats have made since 1974. That was after Richard Nixons water gate. By any measure yes, they picked up two senate seats. Thats because the republicans drew the map lottery in the senate races, but they are getting crushed everywhere else. And seven governorships. Races in georgia werent supposed to be close. The same in texas. And he went 0 for 6 in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. Those are three states he needs. Theres no indication those states are trending red. Theyre the big blue wall that seems to have been rebuilt. Not to mention we heard the president say time and time again when he was campaigning for people a vote for this person was essentially a vote for me. Stop it. You cant take the president at his word. Youre right. I guess i should have learned that. Cornell, i want to play how the president played the georgia election. The president saying he saved the day. I went against president obama and Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama in a great state called georgia for the governor, and it was all stacked against brian. And i was the one that went for brian. And brian won. Cornell, is there any truth to that assessment . Well, as you talk about georgia, because last time i checked, you dont get much redder state than georgia. If you go back to the last off year election where a democrat ran for a governor of georgia, that democrat by the name of carter, a good georgia name lost by over 200,000 votes. But this is part of the problem. If youre at the rnc, this is part of the problem. Your Playing Field is shrinking. I thought georgia would be a Battle Ground state four or five years from now. This is a state that in the Obama Campaign we looked at. And sort of tried to see if we might be competitive. But right now if you look at georgia, if were losing georgia by a point, it is absolutely going to be a state that democrats put into Battle Ground configuration as well as, look, you know, arizona. You know, nevada, these western states that have been traditionally red are now sort of being a lot more competitive. If you are a republican, you absolutely have a smaller map to the white house now than you did before donald trump was president. Lets talk about this other developing story. Matt whittaker. Three Democratic Senators the latest to challenge the constitutionality of his appointment. Pete williams is standing by. Pete, walk us through this here if you can. This is the third legal challenge to the whittaker appointment. It was just filed in federal court in washington by three Democratic Senators. Richard blumenthal, Sheldon White house, and may si hirono. They say it violates a clause that says anybody serving in a cabinet level job has to be nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. They say they have legal standing to sue because they were denied the right to vote on the nomination. The Justice Department defended this appointment on the same grounds they attack it on. They say its true that he wasnt confirmed by the senate, but he didnt need to be because the office of abocting attorney general doesnt require Senate Confirmation because its temporary. But they say in their lawsuit that thats a legal fiction, quote, its a fiction that there exists an office of acting attorney general different from the office of attorney general even though the duties and responsibilities are the same. Last week the Justice Department offices Legal Counsel put out a long opinion upholding the constitutionality of the whittaker appointment. This is the third challenge. Last week there were two. One from the state of maryland in a pending case. One in the supreme court, and now this one filed in federal court in washington by the three Democratic Senators. All right. Our justice correspondent Pete Williams with that breaking news. Thank you. We have a former u. S. Attorney standing by. All of that in addition to trey gowdy today. Republican overnight Committee Chair from South Carolina said the appointment is an open legal question. Any validity to the legal claims so far against whittakers appointment . Absolutely. And actually, i rarely agree with trey gowdy, but im going to today. Its an open question. A lot of people who are immersed in the constitutional and statutory interation law on both sides meaning from both political views j conservative legal analysts have said this is not legal. There are strong arguments to support that. I dont know that this will have time to play out in the courts. The office of Legal Counsels opinion was flawed in some serious ways. It did a statutory interpretation analysis but overlooked a couple things. It blurred the lines. They were looking to support a decision that had already been made. The really important fact i think here is regardless, again, of the legality because while thats important, i dont know that were going to have time to see this play out in the courts. What do you mean . His appointment is temporary. Its 210 days. Although, once they appoint a nominee, my understanding is he can stay acting during that time. Things take a while in the courts. There are ways to speed that up through preliminary injunctions but i dont know that theres really going to be a point in time when a court is going to be able to definitively rule on this while hes in this acting position. They may. I mean, it depends how it plays out. But the important point, i think, in addition to this is trump is lying about why he appointed whittaker. He lied. He said it wasnt because of his views on mueller. And that, i think, just flies in the face of all of facts that we know and common sense when you look at the circumstances here that he bypassed so many other qualified people who would have been so much less controversial like Rod Rosenstein and many other Senate Confirmed people. He reached out as many have said from the bowls of the department of justice to pull this guy whose company he was affiliated with is under investigation for criminal fraud. You dont do that for no reason. I think its clear why he did. Lets go back to the criticism of retired admiral william mccraven. Heres what he said. Bill mcraven, retired admiral. Former head of u. S. Special operations. Hillary clinton fan. Hes a Hillary Clinton backer. And an obama backer. And frankly hes a navy it would be nice if we got bin laden sooner than in. Mcraven did not back Hillary Clinton although he has criticized trumps rhetoric. Heres the question here. Hillary clinton, barack obama. How long does the president continue to use them as his foils . Hes going to use them probably long past theyre in office past hes in office, because to his core group of his base supporters, its like throwing red meat to a lion. But i got to say that this you know, attacking our men and women in the service, it shouldnt be a republican or a democrat thing. Its not something you can imagine george bush doing or bill clinton or barack obama doing or reagan doing. This is not normal. And this president is hes violating things that are long traditions about america and the presidency that will have longterm implications. Hes eroding the moral weight of that office in a way that to me is more damaging longterm than almost any of his policies. Thank you. Always good to have you. Rick tyler, thank you as well. Thank you. Dems dilemma. The simmering blue rebellion against nancy pelosi. Is it real or is it just hype . Also on the front lines, well take you inside what has become a desperate search for nearly,000 loved ones still missing in californias deadliest wildfire ever. And blame game. In a new msnbc interview a former security chief on the facebook failure to communicate the russia threat. Eat. But he has plans today. So he took aleve this morning. Hey dad. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Tylenol cant do that. Aleve. All day strong. All day long. Now introducing aleve back and muscle pain, for up to 12 hours of pain relief with just one pill. This is moving day with the best inhome wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. And this is moving day with Reliable Service appointments in a twohour window so youre up and running in no time. Show me decorating shows. This is staying connected with xfinity to make moving. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Stay connected while you move with the best wifi experience and twohour appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Facebook is on the defensive once again as criticism of the company grows. Sources at the company telling nbc news that Mark Zuckerberg and coo sheyrl sandberg believe the tech giants issues come from a bungled press strategy not structural problems with the site. It follows the New York Times report saying that facebook delayed and denied signs of russian interference ahead of the 2016 election. But in a new msnbc interview the man who first warned of interference, facebooks former chief Security Officer and msnbc contributor said that the tech giants problems come from not being clear enough about how big an issue it was at the start. When we discovered the bulk of the russian activity in december of 2017, i think that the big mistake the company made and i was at the company at the time, so i have responsibility for this too, was not being much more fulsome about the fact that this was a huge deal that we did not have confidence that this was all of it. And that there was a lot of work that had to happen collectively to try to stop this. Joining me now, senior media reporter dylan buyers and cara fisher. Dylan, you have new reporting out on Mark Zuckerberg blaming the media and also referring to this New York Times report using an expletive. What else did you find . Look, facebook is an enormous company. Right . Theres no monolithic sense about how people are feeling right now. But theres an overwhelming sense of frustration and anger, i think, among certain parts of the company toward the facebook leadership because they saw this New York Times report as a chance to sort of correct what has been going on at the company for the last 18 months, to stop doing the thing where you deny the problems that you have, deflect and throw other people under the bus or say the buck does not stop here. Instead the sense is they came out and do the same thing theyve always been doing. You know, both Mark Zuckerberg and sheyrl sandberg at one point or another blame the Communications Team for hiring an Opposition Research firm in washington d. C. They say we didnt know anything about it. Theres just this sense. At what point are you going to step up and take responsibility for the companys problems . I want to play sound from your interview with alex stae moes last night. I know everybody is still exhausted from the midterms in. The truth is the democratic primary has effectively started. 23 y if you look at the last sets of accounts, theyre mostly on instagram and many of them aim left. If you read the tea leaves of what the russians might be interested in, it might be getting involved in the democratic primary quickly. We cant wait a long period of time before we address the issues. What needs to be done in terms of better addressing the issues that alex is talking about on all their platforms including instagram . They can spend less time blaming the media and addressing themselves. Dylan said its not monolithic. There is one person in charge of facebook who controls the company. Mark zuckerberg controls every aspect of the Company Including the shares. It does come from the top. And if this attitude that the media reports are the problem, they have a real issue if the ceo is saying this. The founder and Controlling Shareholder is saying this. The things they have to do is work on this stuff. The midterms were not as difficult as whats coming up in the 2020 elections. Its not just this country. Its globally. They have issues around the implo globe they have to clean up. They were growing and didnt put rules in place that would solve the problems before they started. Thats the issue. Cleaning up from sloppy management getting to where they are. Its a fascinating conversation. This is more of that conversation, and this is the part where you guys are talking about managing political advertising in online spaces. Take a listen. This is a really difficult line between government and tech. The Companies Act in a kwauz si government manner but nobody elected them. Nobody elected Mark Zuckerberg to have this power. We have to be careful what we ask the companies to fix. If doing so, we might grant them powers that down the road we would have rather have kept for ourselves in a democratically accountable way. What would you say . In terms of options that congress has, in terms of how we can prevent this from happening again, what are the options . Whats on the table . Its limited. I think one, congress doesnt really understand how the companies work. Hes right. These are quasi government. Hes right. Who knows in the future when all this information is available to one person who is running it. The question is can they do privacy legislation and do things like europe which has been stringent on all the companies, not just facebook. Can they do it . California has new privacy legislation thats stronger. Can we do it from the states and will the President Trump<\/a> will be holding two rallies the day before an important runoff vote for senate in mississippi despite an electoral map thats getting bluer as more returns come in. President trump sounding confident about his political instincts in the new interview with fox news basically defeat, what defeat . Nbc News White House<\/a> correspondent jeff bennett with us. You end one election cycle. You start the next almost immediately. Are we getting a sense of whether the president as looked at the results and decided to change his tone . Reporter that is the question ive been asking the president s aids for the last two weeks. The sense im getting is the president is not really backing away from his selfstyle persona as a nationalistic culture warrior. He thinks that his 2016 play book worked fine when the data said it wouldnt. And he also believes, im told, it was key to Republicans Expanding<\/a> their majority in the senate in the midterms. So the president clearly is focussed only on the wins and the way we know that is because despite saying repeatedly that a vote for any republican candidate anywhere any place before the midterms, it was a proxy vote for him, hes now not taking any responsibility for the gop losses in the house. Take a look. I won the senate. You dont mention that. Excuse me. I won the senate. Thats a far greater victory than it is for the other side. If you cant carry, and you certainly didnt carry it two weeks ago, michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, youre not going to get reelected. I didnt run. I wasnt running. My name wasnt on the ballot. I am on the ticket. You got to go out to vote. Im not on the ballot, but on a certain way, im on the ballot. I would give myself an a plus. Is that enough . Can i go higher than that . We have a lot of victories coming. I think if i go too low key, were not going to have those victories . The president gives himself an a plus. Despite the strengths in rural areas and small towns, a big question at this point stemming from the 2018 election is whether suburban demographics, whether that will block his bid for a second term. Because the midterm results reveal a widening rural suburban divide where you have growing numbers of College Educated<\/a> voters. Especially in the suburbs who seem to be rejecting President Trump<\/a>, and what theyre doing is helping to boost democrats. On the flip side, though, i can tell you trump aides are hoping, betting that democrats are going to overplay their hand and go too far left and basically wind up alienating the voters they won in november, two weeks ago. The president is also making headlines today because hes also trashing admiral bill mcraven, the Legendary Navy<\/a> s. E. A. L. In the bin laden raid. He dised him by saying he should have found bin laden sooner. It was actually the cia that was tasked with finding bin laden. Mcraven was responsible for killing him which he effectively did. Heres the tweet the president sent out after all of this. He says of course we should have captured Osama Bin Laden<\/a> long before we did. We paid pakistan billions of dollars and they never told us he was living there. Thats a story were tracking. These comments are certainly fitting a pattern where the president has disparaged former veterans. Most notably the late john mccain, when the veterans have chosen to criticize him. Je je jeff, thank you. We have a panel. Mimi roka. Rick tyler, and cornell belcher. All of them msnbc analysts. Mr. Tyler, let me start with you. Doesnt sound like the president is going to change anything about his style or tone. Should that concern republicans at all who are heading into 2020 . Absolutely. Look, this is not a surprise. The president doesnt want to take responsibility for a defeat. This is the biggest gains democrats have made since 1974. That was after Richard Nixons<\/a> water gate. By any measure yes, they picked up two senate seats. Thats because the republicans drew the map lottery in the senate races, but they are getting crushed everywhere else. And seven governorships. Races in georgia werent supposed to be close. The same in texas. And he went 0 for 6 in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. Those are three states he needs. Theres no indication those states are trending red. Theyre the big blue wall that seems to have been rebuilt. Not to mention we heard the president say time and time again when he was campaigning for people a vote for this person was essentially a vote for me. Stop it. You cant take the president at his word. Youre right. I guess i should have learned that. Cornell, i want to play how the president played the georgia election. The president saying he saved the day. I went against president obama and Oprah Winfrey<\/a> and Michelle Obama<\/a> in a great state called georgia for the governor, and it was all stacked against brian. And i was the one that went for brian. And brian won. Cornell, is there any truth to that assessment . Well, as you talk about georgia, because last time i checked, you dont get much redder state than georgia. If you go back to the last off year election where a democrat ran for a governor of georgia, that democrat by the name of carter, a good georgia name lost by over 200,000 votes. But this is part of the problem. If youre at the rnc, this is part of the problem. Your Playing Field<\/a> is shrinking. I thought georgia would be a Battle Ground<\/a> state four or five years from now. This is a state that in the Obama Campaign<\/a> we looked at. And sort of tried to see if we might be competitive. But right now if you look at georgia, if were losing georgia by a point, it is absolutely going to be a state that democrats put into Battle Ground<\/a> configuration as well as, look, you know, arizona. You know, nevada, these western states that have been traditionally red are now sort of being a lot more competitive. If you are a republican, you absolutely have a smaller map to the white house now than you did before donald trump was president. Lets talk about this other developing story. Matt whittaker. Three Democratic Senators<\/a> the latest to challenge the constitutionality of his appointment. Pete williams is standing by. Pete, walk us through this here if you can. This is the third legal challenge to the whittaker appointment. It was just filed in federal court in washington by three Democratic Senators<\/a>. Richard blumenthal, Sheldon White<\/a> house, and may si hirono. They say it violates a clause that says anybody serving in a cabinet level job has to be nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. They say they have legal standing to sue because they were denied the right to vote on the nomination. The Justice Department<\/a> defended this appointment on the same grounds they attack it on. They say its true that he wasnt confirmed by the senate, but he didnt need to be because the office of abocting attorney general doesnt require Senate Confirmation<\/a> because its temporary. But they say in their lawsuit that thats a legal fiction, quote, its a fiction that there exists an office of acting attorney general different from the office of attorney general even though the duties and responsibilities are the same. Last week the Justice Department<\/a> offices Legal Counsel<\/a> put out a long opinion upholding the constitutionality of the whittaker appointment. This is the third challenge. Last week there were two. One from the state of maryland in a pending case. One in the supreme court, and now this one filed in federal court in washington by the three Democratic Senators<\/a>. All right. Our justice correspondent Pete Williams<\/a> with that breaking news. Thank you. We have a former u. S. Attorney standing by. All of that in addition to trey gowdy today. Republican overnight Committee Chair<\/a> from South Carolina<\/a> said the appointment is an open legal question. Any validity to the legal claims so far against whittakers appointment . Absolutely. And actually, i rarely agree with trey gowdy, but im going to today. Its an open question. A lot of people who are immersed in the constitutional and statutory interation law on both sides meaning from both political views j conservative legal analysts have said this is not legal. There are strong arguments to support that. I dont know that this will have time to play out in the courts. The office of Legal Counsel<\/a>s opinion was flawed in some serious ways. It did a statutory interpretation analysis but overlooked a couple things. It blurred the lines. They were looking to support a decision that had already been made. The really important fact i think here is regardless, again, of the legality because while thats important, i dont know that were going to have time to see this play out in the courts. What do you mean . His appointment is temporary. Its 210 days. Although, once they appoint a nominee, my understanding is he can stay acting during that time. Things take a while in the courts. There are ways to speed that up through preliminary injunctions but i dont know that theres really going to be a point in time when a court is going to be able to definitively rule on this while hes in this acting position. They may. I mean, it depends how it plays out. But the important point, i think, in addition to this is trump is lying about why he appointed whittaker. He lied. He said it wasnt because of his views on mueller. And that, i think, just flies in the face of all of facts that we know and common sense when you look at the circumstances here that he bypassed so many other qualified people who would have been so much less controversial like Rod Rosenstein<\/a> and many other Senate Confirmed<\/a> people. He reached out as many have said from the bowls of the department of justice to pull this guy whose company he was affiliated with is under investigation for criminal fraud. You dont do that for no reason. I think its clear why he did. Lets go back to the criticism of retired admiral william mccraven. Heres what he said. Bill mcraven, retired admiral. Former head of u. S. Special operations. Hillary clinton fan. Hes a Hillary Clinton<\/a> backer. And an obama backer. And frankly hes a navy it would be nice if we got bin laden sooner than in. Mcraven did not back Hillary Clinton<\/a> although he has criticized trumps rhetoric. Heres the question here. Hillary clinton, barack obama. How long does the president continue to use them as his foils . Hes going to use them probably long past theyre in office past hes in office, because to his core group of his base supporters, its like throwing red meat to a lion. But i got to say that this you know, attacking our men and women in the service, it shouldnt be a republican or a democrat thing. Its not something you can imagine george bush doing or bill clinton or barack obama doing or reagan doing. This is not normal. And this president is hes violating things that are long traditions about america and the presidency that will have longterm implications. Hes eroding the moral weight of that office in a way that to me is more damaging longterm than almost any of his policies. Thank you. Always good to have you. Rick tyler, thank you as well. Thank you. Dems dilemma. The simmering blue rebellion against nancy pelosi. Is it real or is it just hype . Also on the front lines, well take you inside what has become a desperate search for nearly,000 loved ones still missing in californias deadliest wildfire ever. And blame game. In a new msnbc interview a former security chief on the facebook failure to communicate the russia threat. Eat. But he has plans today. So he took aleve this morning. Hey dad. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Tylenol cant do that. Aleve. All day strong. All day long. Now introducing aleve back and muscle pain, for up to 12 hours of pain relief with just one pill. This is moving day with the best inhome wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. And this is moving day with Reliable Service<\/a> appointments in a twohour window so youre up and running in no time. Show me decorating shows. This is staying connected with xfinity to make moving. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Stay connected while you move with the best wifi experience and twohour appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Facebook is on the defensive once again as criticism of the company grows. Sources at the company telling nbc news that Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> and coo sheyrl sandberg believe the tech giants issues come from a bungled press strategy not structural problems with the site. It follows the New York Times<\/a> report saying that facebook delayed and denied signs of russian interference ahead of the 2016 election. But in a new msnbc interview the man who first warned of interference, facebooks former chief Security Officer<\/a> and msnbc contributor said that the tech giants problems come from not being clear enough about how big an issue it was at the start. When we discovered the bulk of the russian activity in december of 2017, i think that the big mistake the company made and i was at the company at the time, so i have responsibility for this too, was not being much more fulsome about the fact that this was a huge deal that we did not have confidence that this was all of it. And that there was a lot of work that had to happen collectively to try to stop this. Joining me now, senior media reporter dylan buyers and cara fisher. Dylan, you have new reporting out on Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> blaming the media and also referring to this New York Times<\/a> report using an expletive. What else did you find . Look, facebook is an enormous company. Right . Theres no monolithic sense about how people are feeling right now. But theres an overwhelming sense of frustration and anger, i think, among certain parts of the company toward the facebook leadership because they saw this New York Times<\/a> report as a chance to sort of correct what has been going on at the company for the last 18 months, to stop doing the thing where you deny the problems that you have, deflect and throw other people under the bus or say the buck does not stop here. Instead the sense is they came out and do the same thing theyve always been doing. You know, both Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> and sheyrl sandberg at one point or another blame the Communications Team<\/a> for hiring an Opposition Research<\/a> firm in washington d. C. They say we didnt know anything about it. Theres just this sense. At what point are you going to step up and take responsibility for the companys problems . I want to play sound from your interview with alex stae moes last night. I know everybody is still exhausted from the midterms in. The truth is the democratic primary has effectively started. 23 y if you look at the last sets of accounts, theyre mostly on instagram and many of them aim left. If you read the tea leaves of what the russians might be interested in, it might be getting involved in the democratic primary quickly. We cant wait a long period of time before we address the issues. What needs to be done in terms of better addressing the issues that alex is talking about on all their platforms including instagram . They can spend less time blaming the media and addressing themselves. Dylan said its not monolithic. There is one person in charge of facebook who controls the company. Mark zuckerberg controls every aspect of the Company Including<\/a> the shares. It does come from the top. And if this attitude that the media reports are the problem, they have a real issue if the ceo is saying this. The founder and Controlling Shareholder<\/a> is saying this. The things they have to do is work on this stuff. The midterms were not as difficult as whats coming up in the 2020 elections. Its not just this country. Its globally. They have issues around the implo globe they have to clean up. They were growing and didnt put rules in place that would solve the problems before they started. Thats the issue. Cleaning up from sloppy management getting to where they are. Its a fascinating conversation. This is more of that conversation, and this is the part where you guys are talking about managing political advertising in online spaces. Take a listen. This is a really difficult line between government and tech. The Companies Act<\/a> in a kwauz si government manner but nobody elected them. Nobody elected Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> to have this power. We have to be careful what we ask the companies to fix. If doing so, we might grant them powers that down the road we would have rather have kept for ourselves in a democratically accountable way. What would you say . In terms of options that congress has, in terms of how we can prevent this from happening again, what are the options . Whats on the table . Its limited. I think one, congress doesnt really understand how the companies work. Hes right. These are quasi government. Hes right. Who knows in the future when all this information is available to one person who is running it. The question is can they do privacy legislation and do things like europe which has been stringent on all the companies, not just facebook. Can they do it . California has new privacy legislation thats stronger. Can we do it from the states and will the National Scene<\/a> be pressured into doing it . Or will it be haphazard . Thats the problem. I think privacy legislation on National Levels<\/a> should be the lowest bar we have. We have strong privacy legislation in this country. That needs to be passed. Theres other issues around disclosure and political advertising disclosure. They should be disclosing a lot of advertising data portability. The ability to move your data. The ability to know what happens to your data when it goes to third parties. All kinds of things that are difficult. This is billions and billions of transactions every minute going on on these platforms. Its a very large problem. Thank you. Dylan, quickly. Does zuckerberg still have the locker room . I mean, does he still have the support by and large of his rank and file employees and his board . Well, i think the real point is what cara brought up. Its right. It doesnt matter. Theres one person at the end of the day who can decide if Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> stays. Thats Mark Zuckerberg<\/a>. Im hearing hes losing a chair chunk of the locker room. Theyre irate at the way the leadership has handled this issue. Thank you both. 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Nancy pelosi facing opposition, and who is the next senator from mississippi . They are separated by just over half a percentage point. They are going to face a Runoff Election<\/a> in mississippi next week. Msnbcs Garrett Haake<\/a> watching the drama unfold from his perch on capitol hill. Lets start with miss pelosi. How serious of a challenge is the speaker facing here . Is she in any jeopardy . I think the bottom line here is if you were to bet on this, youd take pelosi versus the field and the safer bet here would still be on pelosi. The folks who would like to see someone else be speaker of the house have yet to come up with a challenger willing to put his or her name forward to oppose pelosi. Now, the name of marcia fudge has gone around, the congresswoman from ohio. She has not said whether she wants to pursue the job and met with pelosi late last week before going home to her district. Talked about a good meeting. The folks who are against pelosi are fired up. Theyve been talking about this letter they say they have that will show they have enough votes to defeat here. Theyve been talking about the letter for more than a week. Nobody has seen the thing. I think youd rather be pelosi than the forces aligned against her. Garrett, you cover this for a living. For folks who dont follow it as closely, the 78yearold from california, what is it about her that i peels to so many of her colleagues . Why is it shes been able to lead democrats for so long in the Lower Chamber<\/a> . First j shes been the most successful democratic democratic speaker in the house if a long time. She points to the passage of the aca, obamacare as a huge legislative achievement for her. Secondly, shes a fundraiser. Crossing the country cycle after cycle raising money for her democrats and handing it out. I think even republicans up here would admit theres no one as good of a vote counter. It sounds like a simple thing. Not getting too far out in front of behind her caucus, pelosi is the first to tell you she thinks shes worth the trouble that she sometimes causes her caucus because republicans have been using pelosi as a boogie man against vulnerable democrats for multiple election cycles now. And the pelosi allies tell you they also tried to do that in 2018 and right now democrats are up 30 seats. The arguments against her they say dont hold water. But she is she has been doing this for a very long time. A lot of the new democrats want to see a new face. Lets turn to mississippi. Run off held next tuesday. Republicans have a safe majority in the senate right now. 52 seats. How does this race change the dynamics . Not too much. It will make the next senate feel like the senate weve dealt with more last two years. It gives any individual republican an enormous amount of power in the senate. One or two republicans can hold up just about anything else that the party wants to get done. And it gives democrats a little bit more of an edge here. Again, because they can peel off theoretically, individual republican senators, but espy as a tough road in mississippi. Think about how close the alabama special election was even with all the drama and the controversy surrounding roy moore. Mississippi is a similarly heavy lift for democrats. Garrett haake on the hill. Good to have you. Thank you. Thanks, craig. Kansass grover is calling on one of his states county officials to resign following racially charged comments. When addressing a black woman, a commissioner who is white described himself as part of the master race when asked later, he implied his comments were made as a joke. The as kansas governor is calli for his resignation. He caused controversy in the past for calling general e lee as a wonderful part of history. Republicans claim victories in florida, Andrew Gillum<\/a> and bill nelson both conceding. And brenda snipes quit. Broward county missed a recount deadline by a couple of minutes. Floridas reporting ochbt resignation that it ends a 15year tenure full of botched elections, legal disputes and criticism. Jonathan allen was in florida for all of the political action. Good to see you, my friend. You wrote for our website that republicans had a secret weapon in the florida recount fight. Scott can thank an army of gop lawyers for helping preserve his victory by largely turning back the sprawling democratic legal effort to challenge the actions of Election Officials<\/a> and various aspects of florida statut statutes. How key to the gop victory was fighting back against the democratic legal challenges, onno jonathan . Very important. From the republican perspective they were standing up for the rule of law, for the existing statutes there in florida. Obviously from the democratic perspective, some of the statutes are designed or have the effect of not counting every eligible voters ballot cast. But what you had going on here essentially was a parallel fight or two pieces. One was about the 2018 election. The other was about 2020. Florida is always so very close in president ial elections. It has 27 electoral votes. A huge victory for either party when it wins, and what you had was democrats coming down to florida to test election laws, to test the actions of officials there. To see if they could set up a better board for themselves in 2020. Republicans defending against that. The point of that defense was a woman named jessica first onson. She hasnt gotten as much ink as the democratic superlawyer. She basically ran point for the republicans there. A sprawling legal effort. More than 100 paid and volunteer lawyers on the ground there for republicans. What is it about florida that makes it such a side show . I was talking to an elected official, a local elected official about that this week about that. He said no matter how much florida adds population, and its been booming in growth over many years now, that theyre so divided that if you polled floridians on whether they wanted ice cream or a kick in the face, they would split evenly. Thats good. Theres really just no theres almost no explanation for it. People move down there and for every two people they just split into other camps. No president ial election, no president ial victor in florida has gotten more than 52. 1 of the vote since 1988. We remember 2000. President trump won it with less than 50 of the vote. President obamas last florida victory i believe was with less than 50 of the vote. One of his two was. 2020 looks like its going to be an all out fight in florida 234678 obvious. Obviously a lot of attention in the upper midwest as well. But florida, florida, florida. Thank you, sir. Take care. All right. Jonathan just mentioned the obamas. Heres something that will make you smile, perhaps q on this monday. Michelle obama perhaps youve heard has been touring the country to promote her new memoir, becoming. The crowd who came to hear her speak on saturday night in washington d. C. Got two obamas for the price of one. [ cheers and applause ]. President obama strolling on stage with flowers. The former president comparing that moment to, quote, when jayz comes out during the beyonce concert. President obama did stick around to chat about the book and his love for his wife. Sharing details of when they first met and how he immediately knew he was one of a kind. Floridas attorney general suing wall greens and cvs for their alleged role in this nations crippling opioid crisis. And the California Wildfires<\/a> difficult. Well take you to the front lines in the recovery effort with those given the unimaginable task of identifying remains. It is relatively indescribable. It is complete and total devastation. Weve been tasked to help give the community closure as best we can. 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And they want to search every single parcel to look for every potential to find some of the people that are still missing. They have ran across certain components that they thought could be from either a human or an animal. Then theyll call and do dna testing and try to make a positive identification. Reporter as dusk turns to darkness, First Responders<\/a> get a reprieve and reflect on the difficult job they have to do. It is relatively indescribable. It is complete and total devastation. Weve been tasked to help give the community closure as best we can. Reporter this is personal for you. Youre from here. Yes, sir. My sons have both lost homes here. Thats typical of all our local First Responders<\/a>. Weve all touched personally by this. Reporter 15 miles west the walmart parking lot has become the unofficial refugee camp for evacuees with nowhere else to go. There isnt any organization. This is just people from all over chico and the state that are coming in and feeding people. Its amazing. Reporter ryan thought he lost everything. Even his best friend. It was just amazing, the support i got from the community to find luna. She got singed pretty bad, but were back together. Having luna back has made it so much easier. Reporter just a few cars away, roommates emily and travis are still in shock. When i tried to get out of paradise, thats the point where i thought maybe i could lose my own life. The trees were on fire on either side. You dont know what happened to your house. Im sure it burned. Im sure it burned. But im prepared for that. Reporter a lot of people i talked to, they tell me that they just there was no warning. As soon as the warning came on the phone, it was too late. Driving through the fire was the scariest thing ive done in my life. Ive never experienced anything like that. Its hard to sleep at night. You close your eyes and you see the fire, and its just i cant get it out of my head. Reporter i promised emily we would check on her house. The next day her worst fears confirmed. A few miles away, dave returned to his home and business for the first time. A million years i would have never thought any of this could happen. This is a 1931 corvette, fully restored. Not anymore. That right there has got me upset, though. Reporter thats your motorcycle . That was my bike. That was my pleasure. Thats what i did for fun. Reporter this was your home . Yeah. It was upstairs right here. Its all gone. Thats my bed and the bed frame right there. And i tried to get the hose and do something, but i couldnt and so i grabbed what ikt could. Get out. Barely. Let me bring in dana millbank, a columnist for the washington post. Devastating scene in paradise. Its hard to imagine there are still nearly a thousand people still unaccounted for. President trump wept nt to california over the weekend. He was in paradise. This is part of what he said when asked how a tragedy like this could have been prevented. Im committed to make sure that we get all of this cleaned out and protected. Got to take care of the floors. The floors of the forest are very important. You look at other countries where they do it differently, and its a whole different story. I was with the president of finland, and he said we have a much different he called ate forbe forest nation. They spend a lot of time of raking and cleaning and doing things and they dont have any problem. We should note here the president of finland has said he has no idea with the president is talking about. The floor of the forest, or what was that, dana . We also havent gotten any sort of clarification from the white house about what the president was talking about. Apparently maybe he saw something on fox news or something about raking around your house and kind of got the two juxtaposed. That seems to be the best theory people can offer. Look, its a ludicrous thing. Its caused a great deal of mockery around the world. It would be hilarious if not for the fact of what we just saw in that very moving story from california. Theres a lot of suffering out there. The president being told by his advisers that he needs to get out there and show some empathy. When he reads the words from the zript, he can get close to that, but when hes off script, it goes back to blaming the victims, blaming california. Focusing on his presence, and returning attention to him and how he is correct about it. And it has resulted in sometimes ludicrous things like the raking or calling paradise pleasure j california. Its sort of a comic tragedy. Lets switch topics here. John brennan, former cia director, he was, we should note in the situation roam during the Osama Bin Laden<\/a> trade. He tweeted in response to the president s tweets about bill mcraven. You constantly remind us how substantively shallow and dishonest you are on so many fronts which is why we are in such dangerous times. You would need an extremely tall ladder to get anywhere near the level of intellect, competence and integrity of bill mcraven and your sprepredecessors. What was to be gained by going after the admiral in that fox interview . Well, when the president feels criticized as he did in this case about the media or about the handling of intelligence, his response is to lash out and to believe that all of his critics are partisan. That is not the case in either here. What you have is intelligence professionals, military professionals and you have the president of the United States<\/a> essentially saying b i dont believe you. You knew where bin laden was. Pakistan knew where bin laden was. Yes, he mentioned him in his book. He didnt say he knew where he was or how to go about get him or that there would be a terrorist attack, the fact of mentioning bin laden in the 1990s, we were all talk iing abt him back then. So i think people in the intelligence community, in the military, regardless of party, are feeling like the president is saying he knows better than him. Washington post, always good to have you, sir. The state of florida trying to tackle this countrys addiction crisis by suing the two largest drugstore chains. Will it work . Will it work with fidelity Wealth Management<\/a> you get straightforward advice, tailored recommendations, taxefficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor to help you grow and protect your wealth. Fidelity Wealth Management<\/a>. Hello is friendly. Hello is open. Its welcoming. Everything we want to be when helping people find a medicare plan. So if youre looking for yours, say hello to hellomedicare. A new, onestop shop for medicare plans, including Medicare Advantage<\/a> and part d prescription drugs. All from the names you know. Learn, compare, even enroll all in one place. 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Reporter this morning, florida is suing the two nations largest drugstores, accusing helping them of create the states devastating opioid crisis. Floridas Republican Attorney<\/a> general, pam bondi, to the lawsuits filed in may among those initially named, the maker of o krrxycontin. They say they sold and shipped unreasonable quantities to cvs in florida and said the pharmacy giants failed to stop suspicious orders they received. A spokesman tells b nbc news in part, the lawsuit is without merit and that the Company Complies<\/a> with all federal and state laws were dispensing of controlled substance prescriptions, add aing we have stringent policies to prevent abuse. Walgreens says it does not comment on pending lawsuits. The suit claims since 2006, theyve dispensed billions of doses and c vrs, some 700 millin doses. In recent years, open oid related deaths hitting a high. In 2016, every single day, more than 115 americans died from opioid overdoses. In florida, 15 deaths a day. Attorney general pam bondi, she is the same one now on a short list of potentially to be the best u. S. Attorney general. When President Trump<\/a> was asked about this, he said id love to have her. Kerry, thank you. We will be right back. Kerry, t. We will be right back. Im all for my neighborhood. Im all for backing the community thats made me who i am. Im all for my theatre, my barbershop and my friends. Because the community doesnt just have Small Business<\/a>es, it is Small Business<\/a>es. And thats why American Express<\/a> founded Small Business<\/a> saturday. So, this year lets all get up, get out and shop small on november 24th. I got croissant. Small business saturday. A small way to make a big difference. But he has plans today. Ain. Hey dad. So he took aleve. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Aleve. All day strong. This is moving day with the best inhome wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. And this is moving day with Reliable Service<\/a> appointments in a twohour window so youre up and running in no time. Show me decorating shows. This is staying connected with xfinity to make moving. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Stay connected while you move with the best wifi experience and twohour appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Andrea mitchell reports starts now. Right now, President Trump<\/a> not holding back. In a wide ranging interview siding with a saudi cover up instead of the ca and other world leezers on who ordered the assassination. Blasting the navy s. E. A. L. Commander who led the bin laden raid and he wont sit down with. Is that your final position . Theres going to be no zit interview and nothing written or in person or b obstruction . 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