Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20180803

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20180803 17:00:00

Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. House and some speculations as to whether or not or how much the president knew that these individuals were fact making these specific statements. How much would he have been known of the exact wording that came out of these officials . Well, the Administration Says it was the president s idea. He very much wanted them to come out but it is unprecedenteunpre. We never seen anything like it. It was clearly aimed sending a message to the people that they are taking this problem seriously. Critics point to that, we are less than 100 days before the midterm, why did this briefing happened several months ago or a year ago. Kristen welker is live with us at the white house. Thank you. Lets bring in Jonathan Allen and former senior director Cyber Security at the white house and john mclaughlin, it is great to have all of you. Jonathan and allan, let me begin with you. I want to read from your piece on msnbc. Com. You wrote a twopiece event, you shall sha is trying to undermines the democracy. Who are people to believe her . The president or the countrys top experts and officials in this matter . I think in terms of the mechanics of all this, the russians influences the 2016 elections and attempting the do again in 2018, hacking our democracy. You have to go with the National Security professionals here. The president s argument that this is all a hoax is a political argument. It is not one based on facts or based or any search hes done on the intelligence. We should believe as though officials said there is a serious threat from russia in this election than the last. The president yesterday again with the hoax, his crowd and base, you know at this rally and i was there last night, they want to hear that. They want to hear that what hes doing is trying to have diplomacy with russia and trying to make a better world and they want to hear that his election is credible because they all believed in it. He obviously is worried of the legitimacy over the course of time and he said both things that the russians interfered and he believed Vladimir Putin when he says he did not interfere and having any degree of variance on that opens the door to those who would call it a hoax as he has. Christopher, i want to get your take on the statements that came from the National Security team and whether or not the white house is on one hand doing this for purely theatrical or optical reason when we see what the president is saying out there to his campaign and the messaging thats coming out we saw earlier in the day. Is the white house taking the russia threat seriously . I think there are people in the administration who are doing a lot of good work. I welcome the conference yesterday although as people said that conference could have happened over a year ago but better late than never. There seems to be good initiatives. If the president is under cutting that message. You have a conference like that for two purposes, one is to raise awareness so the American Public is taking it seriously and two, to send a message to putin that this activity is unacceptable and if he does it again, there will be consequences. That effect is under cut by the president s statements either not saying anything at all or saying statements like he did last night and throughout the period where he under cuts those officials who are out there. If i am putin and i look at that and you know what i can bare the cause and the messaging is mix and i will do it again. Director mclaughlin, let me pick off on the points that christopher just raised. Explain to us anybody who ran an agency, why the president s message is more important than a specific order. What if hes Behind Closed Doors as we heard from officials that the president has directed us to do x, y, and z, why should we be so concerned of what hes saying in public . Well, first, eamon, we dont know what the president said to get that conference underway. And, i think the main problem thinking back to my own experience that within the Executive Branch, i know all of these National Security officials. I am sure that individually they are doing the best they can and doing what their agencies can do. Unless you can have direct public and direction and mobilization from the president , the Executive Branch does not move as vigorously and bringing all the power of the federal government to bear. Whats lacking is a coordinated mechanism to pull together in a powerful way of what all of these agencies and officials can do. I think we are witnessing something that is in my 40 years in government here a positively, on the one hand these National Security officials saying what they said and on the other hand hearing the president calling it all fake news. It leads to that question, do you believe what you are told by white house communication or do you believe what you see or hear with your own eyes. Thats a terrible dilemma to put in front of the american people. Obviously you believe what you see and here. Despite the president actually saying that last week. Do not believe what you are seeing and reading when he was attacking the press. Chris, whats your level of confidence of any attempt of interference can be blocked this late in the game so to speak . Yagain, i think some good things going on. Chris wray talked about some of those efforts. We heard from the deputy in aspen last week, my confidence were pretty low that theyll be able to block it. We dont have the top level officials of the white house coordinating all these efforts. You will recall that National Security adviser bolton got rid of this Coordinator Position at the white house, one that could bring a lot of inner agencies efforts together and seemed like they are doing a good thing. We unless it is you know nunified, in a vulnerable place. Director mclaughlin, is there any significance in this action other than the north korea link than the russia bank . It is a good thing to do and reenforces there is a sense of two separate governments working here. Officials who carry out these steps which are all welladvised and the president who seems to be giving a different message entirety and under cutting the effects of it. Putin will hear about the sanctions but hes also hearing from the president of what he says. I have been told the by the russians that sometimes these strengthen him. 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The government is the one that has been ordered by a judge to do these unifications and now theyre saying because of aclu and another ngos on the ground, they should be the one to do it. They should essentially take the lead. There are about 572 kids remains in the governments custody. Regardless of whose responsibility it is, it literally falls on the government in the first place. No, there is not. Thats what is coming together right now in court. I was looking over some of the things that both the defendants and plaintiffs are talking about among themselves that they want to be shared between each other. I should remind everybody, 410 of the 572 are parents who are already been deported. Theyre outside of the United States and they were deported before it was possible for them to be reunited with their children. We are talking about simple stuff. Phone number of parents and birth certificates of children. If a child or parent speaks an indigenous language, what language do both the child and parents speak. There is no centralized database and there was no centralized database and now it was clear al along months after, they still dont have this figured out. The administration is sitting on information thatll allow the parties to find these parents. What kind of information do you think the aclu was referencing there that can facilitate the unifications . We know. Theyre called anumber, thats given to a person. Anybody thats apprehended by the border of control. They say these numbers con train a treasuretrove of information thatll make tracking down these people particularly outside the country in order to reunite them far easier. The latest court filing the government says we dont think it is necessary to give over the afile because there is a whole other list the aclu wants. It is bickering about information when remember we are talking about 572 kids that are still sitting in u. S. Government custody after being systemically taken away from their parents and held by the u. S. Government. Thats what it is about. 572 kids are still in custody of the u. S. Government. Jacob, i know you have been following this story from the beginning. You have been doing encredibinc. What are you looking for this . We have to hear what the judge says. The aclu when i was in court last friday down in san diego, do you really need all this information to unify these kids to their parents. It is going to be critical to see what the judge says as far as proposals by the government. If you clap back at them for a lack of a better term, hey, why dont you guys take the lead. We know you will stay on top of the story, keep up with the excellent report, appreciate it. Thank you. The Alejandra Juarez Have lived in the United States for 21 years. She thinks the decision to come here back then saved her life as an escape from the violence she faced at home. Juarez has two daughters. 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And thats just one school, two semesters, three girls. Together, were building a better california. Republicans with primaries still to come. They want to look to tennessee for two big lessons. Experience in washington could be a liability instead of an asset. Endorsement from President Trump could push you over the top. Those are the big take away our congresswoman diane black, she ran as a trump endorsement. She lost to Business Executive bill lee last night. Our political kmoocommunist andk tyler and hes also a political msnbc analyst. Gentlemen, great to be with you. The primary this season to lose a bid statewide Office Without President Trumps endorsement. How significant and how important is President Trumps endorsement in the primaries . Well, i would say it is significant. The problem is it is a quagmire i see a lot of republicans running to gain trumps endorsement and the argument is whos going to help trump with his make America Great again of his agenda. If you get out of the primaries, the Republican National committee is really the Republican National cult. It does not have any coherence and therefore having a broader appeal and becomes more difficult. During the general elections these republicans who gained and won their Party Nominations because of trump endorsemes en. I am going to get to that point in a little bit. Your colleague, amber phillips, wrote this today which i thought it is interesting. It is not coincidence of the first election cycle that he became president promised to drain the swamp and declaring the political system as rigged that nearly half a dozen gop lawmakers have lost their primaries for higher office. Does the fact that the President Campaign so hard on draining the swap has a Ripple Effect on the gop . Well, it may have a Ripple Effect on the Republican Party. The president has tremendous leverage over republican lawmakers because he may be struggling a bit in the polls. Hes mr. Popularity compares to incumben incumbents and republicans in congress. I think the president is having a great deal of success in this in part because hes looking and seeing where are the winners and whos going to be winning these contests and he tends to side with the winner. It clearly has a huge impact in these primaries. You know certainly we have seen that close to here in virginia that it is something of an albatros. Shes now going to face a moderate democrat, rick bredesen. How do you try to win against a democrat like bredesen. Republicans did not lose tennessee, so this should be a no brainer or not a contest. Now i believe that it is going to be a close race and i do Think Bredesen was a popular politician from tennessee is going to be able to make a case that this is referendum on trump. Thats all hell need because if the president is even 40 in tennessee, and against everybody else, hes going to win. I think you go out every single day and make a case that why to send a message and this is not the way the country wants to go in. Let me play this. He made this pitch for impeaching President Trump. Take a listen. You should join the movement of 5. 5 million americans who had enough.

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