Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20180430

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20180430

Election area, progressives battling mainstream democrats for the right message to ignite a blue wave in november. Do democrats need to move to the left . Lets begin with President Trump whos about to hold a press conference this hour with nigerias president mohammed due buhari talking about fighting terror even as were hearing the words Nobel Peace Prize and President Trump in the same sentence. South koreas president suggesting today that mr. Trump deserves the honor for his efforts to end the decadeslong standoff with north korea over its Nuclear Weapons program. All of it following a weekend rally where trump was clearly pleased by chants of nobel. [ chanting nobel ] thats very nice. Thank you. Thats very nice. Nobel. I just want to get the job done. Nbcs Geoff Bennett is at the white house this afternoon. Geoff, mr. Trump supporters get ahead of themselves with all of this nobel talk what are you hearing about korea from there at 1600 . Reporter hey there, chris. White house officials scramble to get things in place for the summit between President Trump and the north korean leader, President Trump himself is trying to build some suspense about the location of this potential summit. Now, as we reported, singapore had ranked high on the list as possible sites. As Trump Administration officials bet locations based on all the great many security, vet them, on neutrality concerns, but President Trump apparently has a new idea. Hes talking about the peace house, which is located on the korean dmz. He tweeted about it earlier this morning. What he wrote numerous countries are considered but would peace House Freedom house on the border of north and south korea be a more important and lasts sight than the thirdparty country . Just asking. Point out, the peace house was built nearly 30 years ago for the specific purpose are host ing the north and south. Too much concession for kim to have the talks on kims own turf. Two very top Trump Administration officials talking about this. Mike pompeo, secretary of state, said when he met with kim over easter weekend sized him up and came away with a determination there was at least a slight chance for a denuclearization deal, but john bolton, the new National Security adviser says the potential still exists, chris, for no deal at all. Take a look at what he had to say. Theres nobody starry eyed around here. Weve all been call add number of things. Naive is not usually one of them. I think the president sees the potential here for historic agreement, but as he says repeatedly, the potential for no deal at all is also there. Reporter north korea is one of the questions we hope to put to President Trump. You mentioned hes hosting nigerias president here. A joint press conference in about a half hour from now. Expect questions on this and also on that care stlavan that arrived from Central America from the u. S. mexico border. Thank you. Bring in ann gearan, msnbc political analyst eli stokols and ambassador nicholas burns, former undersecretary of state for Political Affairs under president bush. Ambassador, you just heard what john bolt hadnt to say. Playing a little expectations game, trying to tamp them down, maybe a little reality check. Let me ask your reality check. How realistic are the administrations hopes there could be denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula . I think john bolton the right to set expectations low. This was a dramatic weekend beginning friday with the meeting at pipinonmon. This is not just Nuclear Weapons also the entire industry that surrounds it that might take years to negotiate and accomplish. I really think the administration is trite say, this is very promising but a lot more has to be done with china. To keep china onboard the sanctions, keep south korea and not let the south korean the get so far ahead of the United States it limits President Trumps authority. I would say this. President trump has done a good job. Positioned the United States well but the hardest part is ahead not behind. Ann what do you think is happening with president moon . Does he genuinely believe President Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and optimistic whether or not this is beginning of the end or the end of the beginning as ambassador burn said or maybe a little bit of, as other World Leaders have done, flattering a man who likes very much to be flattered . Chris, actually both of those things are true. President moon came in to office with a goal of bettering relations with north korea, and from his perspective things really couldnt have gone better and much more quickly than he really ever could have imagined, and he credits President Trump, rightly, with helping with that. President trump likes to take a lot of credit for getting things going way back with his agreement to support moons position on inviting north korea to the olympics, and trump is right about that. That did set a different tone between the two koreans and many things have flowed from that. But clearly also president moon has learned a couple of lessons, including from his neighbor in japan, shinzo abe, about the value of buttering trump up and kind of keeping the focus on him. Youll recall that when moon was suggested as a potential nobel recipient in recent days, his response, if indeserves it, it would be President Trump. Yes. He also apparently told, kim told mr. Moon the following, eli. Ill quote it here. I know the americans are inherently disposed against us, but when they talk with us they will see i am not the kind of person who would shoot Nuclear Weapons to the south over the pacific or at the United States. I mean, first of all it is, as has been pointed out, pretty startling a statement by somebody who threatened to do exactly those things when he and President Trump, eli, were going at it last year. Yes. Amazing how much the rhetoric on both sides of this north korea and President Trump have really shifted in the last couple of months. The president was onstage at the United Nations generally assembly threatening to annihilate north korea and in the last several weeks being open to not only the summit but talking about kim jongun as being, you know, a leader he respects, in spite of Otto Warmbier and in spite of all the threats, missile tests and things like that. So i think the president clearly politically is excited about the possibility of a deal. He revels in the chance of nobel, revels in praise, we all know this. Obviously, this is very complicated. This is a president has that not always had a real long Attention Span for details. Whether they will in the policy briefings, intelligence briefings. He likes to get things done and get to the handshake and photo op. This is really complicated stuff, at the ambassador has already pointed out. Meantime, ambassador, isis, boko haram, spoken on probably in the next 20 minutes, and the two men are talking now. Those conversations come in a day when in afghanistan there was a double suicide bombing that killed at least 31 people including 9 journalists, a bbc reporter, a famed a. P. Photographer. Ambassador, the u. S. Ambassador, john bass, responded to the attack by restating u. S. Resolve to combat terrorists in afghanistan, but beyond those kinds of words, what needs to get done . Well, so much needs to get done. I think the trump and Obama Administrations have done a very good job nearly completing destruction of the Islamic State and caliphate in iraq and syria. That needs finished and the problem metastasizing terrorist theft in afghanistan, with the Islamic State and postal qaeda groups operating. You see it in nigeria, all across the belt from the east coast of africa to the west coast of africa, indigenous terrorist groups. Nigeria has been a victim of boko haram as you say. Air power, intelligence, special forces along with others can help all of these countries cope and im afraid it will be a longrunning battle for all of these countries, and we have to stay in it with them. Well see what else gets touched on at the press conference. Often it depends on who gets called on, but a couple of other things we want to talk about here outside of foreign affairs. The president singled out montana senator, a democrat, john tester, for blame in the failed nomination of rear admiral Ronny Jackson to head the Veterans Affairs administration. Let me play that for you. Tester started throwing out things that hes heard. Well, i know things about tester that i could say, too. And if i said them, hed never be elected again. Now, we should point out, anne, the president made threats like that, that he has information or tapes or whatever, that turned out not to be followed up on. Having said that, is this just him calling out his democrat of the week . Is it a preview of what well see through the midterms . What do you read into that . Well, first of all, i dont know what the president is talking about, if hes talking about anything specific there. Tester has is a moderate red state democrat who whose stock and trade has been nonpartisanship and i think what youre seeing here in no small measure is the white house seeing an opening to make a sort of nonpartisanish middle of the road red state democrat, put that seat in play, which is really hasnt been, and really play to the president s strengths on attack. Hes very good on attack. And unfortunately for tester, tester gave him a little bit to work with by not getting all of his facts 100 correct in the things he said last week about Ronny Jackson. Meantime, there a sort of a burgeoning controversy over Vice President pence. Hes set to address the nras annual meeting and there was a posting on their website getting a lot of attention. Due to the attendance of the Vice President of the United States, the u. S. Secret service will be responsible for events security at the nra, ila leadership forum. Firearms and firearm accessories knives of weapons of any kind prohibited during to, prior and after his attendance. Parkland students jumping on this, one tweeting, the nra evolved into a hilarious parody of itself in addition to that there are members, selfproclaimed members, eli, of the nra agreeing essentially with the parkland students in saying things like, either you believe in security or you dont. Believe in the right to arm yourself or you dont. Now, the nra is trying to make nothing of this, to dismiss it saying, look, this is all about the secret service. We can do that, but is there more here . Is there hypocrisy here . Again, you point out, a secret Service Decision not the nra deciding one rule applies for the president , the Vice President and then their position on Everything Else is the opposite. But the students may be right to point out what is at least some pretty ironic symbolism here in terms of a group that advocates for arming teachers, more guns, good guy with a gun stops bad guys with a gun and here is a conference drawing thousands of people who believe they are those good guys with a gun into a building to see the president , the Vice President , and being told that they wont be able to carry their firearms. So you can understand how that looks so hypocritical to people who look at the nras argument and say when the president and the Vice President show up, the secret service clearly doesnt buy into that argument. I want to go live to Benjamin Netanyahu, because he had been teasing he had some big information involving iran and the iran nuclear deal. Lets listen in. Incriminating photos. Incriminating videos and more. Weve shared this material with the United States, and the United States can vouch for its authenticity. We will also share it with other countries and will share it with the International Atomic Energy Agency. So let me tell you the histories of this materiel. Weve known for years that iran had a secret Nuclear Weapons program called project ammad. We can now prove that project ammad was a comprehensive program to design, build and test Nuclear Weapons. We can also prove that iran is secretly storing project ammad materiel to use at a time of its choice to develop Nuclear Weapons. Heres what project ammads explicit goal was. Creating Nuclear Weapons. This is an original iranian presentation from these files and here is the mission statement. Design, produce and test five warheads, each with ten kilaton grade tnt for integration missile. You dont have to read far to see ten kilotons here, tnt. The specific goal of project ammad. Thats like five hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles. This is an original iranian spread sheet from the archives of project ammad. Look at what it has here. Yellow keg production. Centrifuge enrichment process. Warhead project. Simulation project. And test. And indeed, when we analyzed whats in these archives, we found that project ammad had all of the five elements, the five key elements, of a Nuclear Weapons program. I want to take them one by one. First element is designing Nuclear Weapons. This is an original iranian illustration of a weapon. Again, you dont have to read far to understand this. This is u235, enriched youura at the core. The only place you find in the core enriched uranium and heres a uranium simulation, original, putting all the components together. Thats the first component. Second component. Developing nuclear cores. Heres a photo showing the casting process and a cast metal core from the archives. And heres the secret underground facility the iranians were building to produce nuclear cores. We have hundreds of documents for each of these components. Third component. Building Nuclear Implosion systems. This is an original iranian photo of a measuring device for implosions, and heres a simulation of a Nuclear Implosion. Fourth element preparing nuclear tests. Heres a map of five potential locations for a nuclear test in eastern iran. One, two, three, four, five. We have many, many more such documents. And, fifth, integrating Nuclear Weapons on missiles. Heres a design for a Nuclear Payload on a shaab 3 missile. Heres the warhead. Heres the bomb. I dont have to remind you iran is expanding its Nuclear Capable missiles nep started with 1,000 kilometers, now up to 2,000, roughly. They can reach riyadh, tel aviv, moscow but theyre working on far, far greater ranges. They are planning much longerrange missiles. To carry Nuclear Weapons. So these files conclusively prove that iran is brazenly lying when it says it never had a Nuclear Weapons program. The files prove that. Heres what happened next. Iran was faced with mounting pressure in 2003. You remember that . That was following the gulf war. So it was forced to shelf project ammad but it didnt shelf its nuclear ambitions. So iran devised a plan to do two things. First, to preserve the nuclear flowhow from project ammad and second, to further develop its Nuclear Weaponsrelated capabilities. That plan came directly from irans top leadership. Heres another document from the archive. This is following the new directive of irans minister of defense. Todays, hes the director of the National Security council. Following the new directive of irans minister of defense, the work would be split into two parts. Culvert and so Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says siiran is lying regards to their nuclearabilities. You remember that back in march of 2015, barack obama still president and before a joint session of congress he gave many people consider an audacious speech considering the sitting president of a key ally, and talked strongly to congress against the iran nuclear deal. Continuing here with what he says ambassador burns is, again, a Significant Development what do you make of what youre hearing . Theres a lot to unpack here. First, that the israelis have evidence of a Current Program by the i

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