Senior adviser Jared Kushner is leading a task force that will doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacistrecommendeding . Recommend and vet candidates for pardons and communations. Memory support brand. You can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. Seizing control of the process from the Justice Department which usually reviews pardon prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Applications and then makes a nonbinding recommendation to the white house. Not the other way around but the constitution gives the president the ultimate power to grant pardons or communations for federal crimes and talking aability this and roger stone but lets start with nbc news intelligence and National Security correspondent ken dilanian outside the hes in the bureau in washington. The sentencing of roger stone came after ten days of drama within the department of justice. What did the judge say about this 40month sentence lower than the initial recommendation . Good to see you, as well, ali. The judge made a tonight of saying that all this noise had no bearing on her sentence and it really underscored that barr did not need to do what he did because seven to nine years was really never going to happen in oh no, here comes gthe neighbor this case. Probably to brag about it was well outside what any how amazing his xfinity similarly situated defendant did Customer Service is. Get and would consider the im mike, im so busy. Enhancements, though, the thing good thing xfinity that is aggravated the sentence, has twohour appointment windows. The threat to the witness of they have night and weekend appointments too. Roger stone and considered mitigating factors like 6 years hes here. Bill . Karolyn . Old, a first offender and that nope no, just a couple of rocks. This wasnt a violent offense and arrived at what many legal download the my account app observers said is a standard to manage your appointments sentence in a case like this. Making todays xfinity Customer Service but what she also did was try to simple, easy, awesome. Send a message to the many ill pass. Critics of this prosecution including the president by pointedly saying this was not a political prosecution. Everybody involved here was acting on the merits. She said that stone lied to congress in a way this had national and international significance. She said that stone was not prosecuted for standing up for the president but for covering up for the president. Thank you, ken. Joining me now is someone that knows roger stone well, sam nunnberg is an associate of roger stone and considered him to be a mentor and adviser to Donald Trumps 2016 president ial campaign. Sam, lots of talk today all about what happens next for roger stone. In a normal world roger stone goes to jail after the sentencing but he asked for a reconsideration of his trial and President Trumps been tweeting about him. Others have been tweeting about him. Folks at fox talking aability a pardon or a commutation. What do you think is likely to happen . I think the president is trying to figure out does he commute the sentence in the very least before roger would have to go to jail . Or, before barr has to testify. Nilgts debate. More than 19 mil watching. I believe barr is testifying in a couple weeks to the house. Remember, his attorney general has already said that he viewed heres some of the top moments from it. This as a righteous prosecution. He said that he at least like to talk about who were approved the memo in the minimum running against. A billionaire who calls women for at least five years. Right. Barr, if one doesnt like the fat broads and horsefaced fact that barr got involved, the lesbians and, no, im not fact is only to adjust what the talking about donald trump. Im talking about mayor sentencing recommendation was, not the idea that roger stone bloomberg. The best known socialist in the country is a millionaire isnt guilty. Correct. With three houses. I think the president theres the mayor says this he has a internal pushback i understand. Great record, done the wonderful things. This is the president s he has not managed his city very rs very well when he was there. Decision, this has whether or not the case was political, this im less concerned about the has been politicized as you lack of transparency on sanders mentioned on fox news and going to be a cause celebre i think for a lot of people and you have health than how to pay for his to look you know trend lines health care. Mayor buttigieg had a slogan. From the time in the financial it is not a plan. District is barr is going to it is powerpoint and amys plan become a man on an island, ali. Is even less. It is like a postit note people will be unhappy with the fact that a lot of people are walking that are from the [ speaking Foreign Language ] government and i dont believe that the durham investigation i wish everyone was as can produce anything compared to perfect as you, pete. The candidates back on the at least what the president s trail today hoping the expecting and you have people performance to give them a boost like roger stone who are going of momentum. To go to jail and possibly mike lets go to nbc news senior political adviser john allen in flynn. So all of the talk of las vegas. John, some time has gone by and commutation and pardons and in some peoples opinion Lindsey Graham tweeted this everyone that has something to morning saying the president is say about the debate has said it on fine legal ground to do that. Thats not the question. But to you where did it all the question is whether the president is doing all of this land . On the canvas, ali. Including Rod Blagojevich and this is the boxing capital of the world. Bernie kerik to set up for the i dont know if you remember ones that matter to him, roger this about 32 years ago mike stone, Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort. Look. Tyson versus michael sfinx. It is a very good question. What i would say with michael took 91 seconds for mike tyson flynn and Paul Manafort is their to knock him out. Charges what theyre tried for, thats basically what happened could possibly manafort is in jail and flynn are separate from to bloomberg and bloomberg getting up bean knocked back stone because stones charges down. Quite an amazing set of events obstruction of justice, lying to early on last night and they congress. Out of this investigation. Decided to get in the ring and so it would seem to me that if the president has said that this punch each other. It was almost like Linda Mcmahon is an illegitimate running it. Investigation, angry democrats, the trump cabinet secretary. Bob muler is a liar, why let i dont think i have seen anything like it on the roger go to jail . I suspect hes not going to. Democratic side ever before and how much is trump blowing off i think because theres so much of a suppression from these steam and criticizing versus how Democratic Candidates for so long. They thought that voters wanted much is tstrategic . To see them get along with each other and i think over time they realized people wanted to see who could take on donald trump. I would nt know. I was watching the debate and somebody that worked closely with donald trump and roger stone. Reading twitter at the same time the president strategic for and interesting to see what you the president is to use social see on the feed matches what you media. To continue to double down on see on tv and there were people these tweets after barr has critical of what they called a asked him not to. Circular firing squad. I think that is strategic for democrats going after each other the president to show hes the and others saying i can see what boss and he is not going to they look like if theyre up in barr has even put out that he a tough fight against the toughest of fighters donald wants to leave. There will be tension eventually trump. What is your take on it . Between them. I suspect barr will probably damaging or ultimately useful . Stay until the end of this term but the president im sure is yeah. Damaging to the people who get ultimately not going to be happy hit when they get hit and useful to voters to understand not with him. This comes down do a difference in how someone views only, you know, how these folks the Justice Department. I think you and katy had a bit handle themselves on stage because thats part of it but of a chat about this last week. Right. Also to get an idea of what the where the question is, is bill pbarr the attorney general contrasts are. For a year, more than a year, of the United States or Donald Trumps attorney general . These candidates have been running and trying very subtlety oversimplified way of looking at it. Where do you stand on this . Where do trumps people stand on to nuance the differences between them and harder for this . I stand on it that the voters to understand the big Justice Department is quasi differences. They try to paper it over. Independent, yes. As reporters when you get a it is under the article ii. So the president is technically chance to ask candidates questions a reason you ask tough the chief Law Enforcement questions to try to distinguish officer. In this instance, though, between them. Because this is related to the oftentimes when theyre doing their own ads, trying to paper Mueller Investigation which was that stuff over. Politicized and could have when they get in the debate resulted in the president s impeachment and heading into a situation thats where when you reelection i think thats sensitive for the president , see the differences and therefore, to have the right to important for voters. Good to see you. Monitor this and to ill see you in las vegas after the show. John allen, senior political you think he should, the right to monitor and analyst. Senator Elizabeth Warren is seeking or seeing renewed specifically with stone and momentum after last nights fiery debate performance. Heres some of what she said2 flynn. I dont know manafort is once again a separate issue, has financial issues. Decided not to pay taxes and country. We have got 98 of it left to go launder money. Youre right. And the way i see it is because so i think that wouldnt you think that the i did not spend 70 of my time president should not have the on fund raising. Ability to put the thumb on the but instead, spent it out with scale on things related to him . Town halls in 29 states and thats a very complex puerto rico. And i now have offices in 31 question because under normal circumstances, yes, i would states. Agree with you. I now have more than a million however, this is a historical donors nationwide who are part because we have never had a of this movement. President impeached heading into that were just getting started. Reelection, never had a president facing this kind of Elizabeth Warrens back on investigation before. The trail with new endorsement, and from a political point of the black to the future action view, its going to be very fund is a think tank to empower difficult for the president when black communities in u. S. Hes debating whoever that is politics and senator warren is and the person says you can talk first president ial candidate that the Mueller Investigation that the organization has was a witch hunt but one of your endorsed. Joining me now is groups closest associates, a good cofounder, alesia garcia, friend of yours, an adviser went to jail to cover up for you and sitting in jail. Cofounder of black lives if the president pardons roger matter. Great to see you. May not be an issue at that thank you for being with us. Time. Thank you for having me. Good to see you. I think what you said about thank you for joining me. What your organization said thank you. Roger stone is not the only about Elizabeth Warren stands trump associate in the news out to me. Today. The Watchdog Group citizens for you believe that shes got the best analysis of how power responsibility and ethics in operates in this country. Washington has filed a complaint thats a nuanced statement. Against the president s personal what do you mean by that . Attorney Rudy Giuliani with the well, what we mean is that United StatesAttorneys Office when we understand the ways in for the Southern District of new which black communities are left york alleges that giuliani likely violated the hatch act out and left behind underneath all of that is really a threatening to withhold statement about how power congressionally authorized operates. Black people and black assistance to ukraine. Communities are left out of the political decisions that impact the law bans the use of federal our lives every single day. Whether that be from Health Care Funds and federal programs to advance a partisan agenda. To education to tax policy. Joining us now is noah and these are things that are bookbinder, a former trial impacting the lives of our attorney for the Justice Departments Public Integrity families and communities. The reason we support elizabeth section investigates and warren is because she understands how race shapes policy and how race shapes prosecutes federal corruption cases. Practice. Good to see you. We think about the hatch act as but not only does she understand it, shes got a plan for how to somebody in an official capacity fix it and a plan for how to doing something that feels look engage us in the decisions that its partisan in favor of a Government Official or a the impact our lives. Thats why shes won our president or whatever the case is. Endorsement today. That kept coming out time and this is a different application or a different way of thinking time again last night. About the hatch act. She was looking for any thats right. This administration has run into opportunity to remind people she has a plan for that. A lot of problems with hatch act she has a specific policy violations where you have had white house officials and other prescriptive for all of those Government Officials who are not types of things. Supposed to do this making heading into nevada this weekend political statements in favor of and then South Carolina next the president s reelection or weekend with a majority population of voters in the democratic primary who will be opposing likely opponents. Africanamerican who started off being solidly behind joe biden, this is something different. Theres actually a criminal we started to see that provision of that law which says disintegrate. Tell me how this endorsement and how africanamericans are seeing that its a potential criminal offense to use federal Elizabeth Warren particularly funds and federal programs to through that policy lens. Essentially get somebody to well, i cant speak for all black people but the 30,000 to support a political campaign, black folks we talk to over the course of a year with our black census project where we did some take part san Political Action and thats what Rudy Giuliani deep listening of what black whens being investigated communities care about and what according to press reports by we want to see for our futures. Federal prosecutors in new york, we translated that into a policy thats what he seems to have agenda thats called black theres a lot of evidence that agenda 2020 which you can find on our website at black to the he may have done in that, you future. Org and then a range of know, he was right there in candidate endorsements to see getting these 391 million in how each candidate aligned with the policies and the practices federal funds to be used and that we care about. Then the threat of withdrawing Elizabeth Warren was far and that money to be used to get the away ahead in both understanding president of ukraine to make an the ways in which race shapes our lives, understanding what been hugely political helpful to needs to be done to change that the president. The argument hinges on the and understanding how to bring fact that what Rudy Giuliani was black communities to the table doing was in the end designed to in order to be a part of be politically helpful to donald designing the decisions that impact our lives. Trump. So we are going to whats your sense of the different ways in which this is im sorry. No. It is okay. We are mobilizing the community and our communitys networks to get involved in this upcoming adjudicated . Whats your sense of how that election. We think democracy is not a will be looked at by the court . Spectator sport and it only look. Works when we are engaged so thats what we are going to be the decision in the impeachment trial ultimately was a political doing in the months leading up to the primary and we are one. There were a lot of senators who excited to stand behind her. Went out there and said the i want to ask you about house has proved its case policies on specific issues that essentially against the would be interesting to president but were going to africanamericans or meaningful to them versus talking about vote to acquit him anyway. People argued it didnt justify something bigger, Elizabeth Warren as a vehicle for a shift withdrawal from office but the evidence was quite clear and in the power structure and that quite devastating. That would be beneficial to so i think when you come out of africanamericans than somebody with specific policies but that impeachment process which Elizabeth Warren you argue does is inherently politically and have those sp