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>> you too, ali. see you later. >> good afternoon, everybody, i'm ali velshi. keep your stories close to your heart. that's a reminder from diane rosenthal as she sent her last good-byes to her brothers today. 59-year-old cecil rosenthal 5rks 4-year-old david rosenthal, two victims killed in the senseless massacre targeting jewish people at the try of life synagogue in pittsburgh. today mourners lined up to pay their respects to both. cecil and david rosenthal as well as a doctor who was shot and killed trying to help others during saturday's attack. these three people are the first of 11 victims who will be buried in the aftermath of what is said to be the deadliest anti-semitic attack in american history. president trump is on his way to pittsburgh this hour, despite more than 74,000 people signing a petition by jewish leaders in pittsburgh stating the president was not welcome in the city unless he outright denounced white nationalism and the targeting of minorities. despite the mayor's pleas to the president, delay your trip, the mayor is saying, our attention and focus is going to be on them. we don't have public safety. but we can take away from what is needed in order to be at both. joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander, who's in pittsburgh. peter? >> ali g. dood day to you. we expect to see the president here in pittsburgh over the next couple of hours as he prepares to depart washington, d.c. over the course of this day i have seen long funeral processions as they arrive here burying three members of this con congregation over me, behind me. you may see younger men from this community that are more original b orthodox views. they were saying prayers of mourning today. what struck me in advance of the president's arriving, some people don't believe his visit, many we spoke to today, said his visit will not make the situation better here. i spoke to the nephew of daniel stein. he while going to one of the funerals today told me that the president's comments immediately after this massacre were, in his words, inappropriate. his suggestion that the congregation could have better protected itself if it had armed guards. he said to me, among other things, it felt like a stab in the back. just some of the language we're hearing from some of the individuals here. we know the four top congressional leaders, democrats and republicans alike, have said they will not be coming here to join the president at his invitation, as i speak to you right now. we are hearing some woman yelling. there's fierce debate right now. there are fights even among the jewish community over how they should honor the lives of those lost here. but, ali, it's also the mayor, a democrat, the county executive, a democrat, and the governor who will not be participating in the president's visit here. the rabbi of this congregation said president trump was welcome, but he himself will not meet with the president when he arrives. we still don't know exactly what's on president trump's itinerary at this time. it remains a closely held secret. all sf ali? >> peter, thank you very much. right before his trip, the president revealed a controversial part of his plan, immigration push ahead of the midterms. in an interview with axios, the president said he intended to sign an executive order that would end birthright citizenship. >> you can definitely do it with an act of congress, but now they're saying i can do it just with an execute order. how ridiculous, we're the only country in the world where a person comes in, has a baby and the baby is essentially a citizen of the united states for 85 years with all of those benefits. >> all right, "the washington post" and a whole lot of others say the president is wrong. first of all, 30 other countries practice birthright citizenship. not everybody does. but more importantly there's a question of constitutionality. the 14th amendment said all persons born or naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction there of are citizens of the united states and of the state wherein they reside. just listen to what the president of the national constitutional center told me earlier, the reason why we have birthright citizenship in america. >> we have it because we're not europe. europe had this idea of blood, you sanguous, if you're born somewhere, your blood entitles you to citizenship. we totally rejected that. the whole idea of the civil war is the presence of this country where you come to voluntarily that can base citizenship and that's why we're an open society, open to all immigrants. it really was the point of the civil war to reject this attempt the president is trying to resurrect. >> with me now is michael wildes, managing partner at wildes and weinberg, representing melania trump on immigration battles and author of "safe haven to america: battles to open the american door." thank you for being here. it's not an entirely open question. there are some legal scholars who say there are ways in which you can interrupt the 14th amendment in which the president by executive order or congress can do certain things, but it's -- the president said i don't need to make a constitutional amendment n truth, it's not easy to deny people citizenship if they're born in the united states. >> i don't know where the president is getting advice. in all truth, with respect to my client mrs. trump and her family, the president can only issue an executive order if congress is silent, if there is no authority, or they have ceded authority to the president. here it's expressly in the constitution. article one, section eight, congress shall establish uniform role of naturalization. look at the 14th amendment, the reconstruction amendments, 13, abolishing slavery, 14th, concentrating on civil rights, codifying a person born here is a citizen and 15, giving voting rights. the supreme court in a famous case in 1898 gives the whole notion, there was a chinese exclusion act that a child that was born to somebody who wasn't legally here, they could have become citizens, is a citizen. the 19512 walter mccarron act codifies it further declaring 8usc1401, a person born in the united states is a u.s. citizen. this whole argument is a false narrative. a child that comes into america cannot sponsor they're parent until they're 21. there are protections in the law. if that child's parent did not come in legally, they can never be sponsored properly. so this is all again more banter to get people to the midterm election. >> that's exactly what i was going to say. we've had this conversation with legal experts like you, all of whom who say very similar and very smart things you have said, the president, this is red meat, it's silly. but there are actual reasons why americans should study or at least know that the 14th amendment exists and take pride in the fact that is how america decided to build a country. this isn't an accident. this isn't some technicality to the amendment of the constitution. this is meaningful. >> no, it's by design and it has legal effect. if you reverse it, we'll go from 12 unlawfully present people to 24 and we'll have a cast system where certain people cannot do certain things, and we will go in a completely different culture and environment. interesting case comes to my father, who's an immigration lawyer also. a plane is flying over, an american man flag plane. a child is born on the plane. the child, when it lands, is an american citizen. the mother doesn't. we already have challenges. that child cannot sponsor mom until 21 years later and mom has to get her affairs in order. look, the president knows that this is expressly there. he is trying to perform. i do not believe him to be a big -- and i'm not here to defend the president, i'm here to say this president versus u sanguine, we want uniformity. isn't this beautiful -- >> that means what? >> blood. we don't want to model a lot of it. we have a little bit of use of sanguane in our system. blood relatives and forth. >> but the idea of blood relatives is not problematic, it's the exclusive way in which you deal with it. >> isn't it charming somebody who gives birth to a child here and, again, the notion of an anchor baby, i have never seen a woman come into our office so 21 years later she can be sponsored but the notion the president of the united states if they're born in america could have been born to anybody. the fact is this golden experiment, my book is called "america's golden doors," safe haven in america. our doors need to be hinged open. with the kind of language and rhetoric we're taking now, we're slamming them. we want to close them on people that would cause us harm but this is just another one in i think poor taste before an election. this is theater, ladies and gentlemen. don't are scared t will . it will go away. >> if people vote. the managing partner and author of "safe haven to america: battles to open the golden door." as we talk about america, a lot of attention is on texas and in particular latino voters there. to explain why, mariana atensio joins me now. mariana, good afternoon. >> good afternoon to you, ali. i'm in the seventh congressional district here in texas. this was a seat that was solidly red for decades, ali. in fact, it was held by george h. bush 1966 and been in republican hands ever since. now with the changing demographic, you still have college-educated whites, 14% african-americans and 30% latinos. democrats are are seeing perhaps their chances that they can get latinos to turn, flipping the seat blue. we have been speaking to latinos on the ground here for more than a day now about the issues that are motivating them to vote and vote early. most of them tell us it's health care, it's the economy, it's local issues ali like hurricane harvey relief, and also, of course, immigration. we're all sensing an underlying current here on the ground with some latinos and the fact some of them are feeling disenfranchised, like they don't belong, like their vote doesn't count almost. they're not a part of the process. in fact, pugh research center, and i'm hoping you can show these numbers to your audience there, they came up with a poll and it states basically latinos feel like their position in this country is as bad as it was ten years ago during the great recession. now, a lot of that here on the ground in texas could also have a lot to do with outreach. the fact some of the folks we have been speaking to, they tell us their doors have not been knocked on, they're not really informed about the candidates or the issues. i want to play two soundbites for you from two latino voters who expressed this to us here in the congressional seventh. let's listen. >> i just feel i'm not really wanting to get involved with the politics anymore. saying what they say out there and coming in office and doing something completely different. it feels almost irrelevant to even waste my time. >> they just need the information at the front of the door, but they have not taken the time to reach out and let them know what are their options that they have out there? >> what does that say about the importance of the latino vote here in texas? >> well, it says that there's a lack of information in it. and that the candidates are not reaching out to the -- to the latino voters. and we need do that. . >> we have been seeing canvassers on the ground, ali, especially the texas organizing project, and they tell us if you really approach latinos, if you're personable with them, if you talk with them about why the issues matter, remember latinos like the familiarity, you can convince them and engage them in the voting process. but it remains to be seen whether democrats have the funding and, frankly, the infrastructure at this point six days out to be able to make a change. ali? >> thank you, and thank you for pointing out latinos are neither monolithic nor is immigration at the top of everybody's list of concerns, like everybody else. they're concerned about health care and they're concerned about the economy. i think it's important to understand that when we talk about groups of any sort in america. mariana, thank you for your excellent reporting from houston. coming up, our road warrior blitz with seven days to go before the midterms, we're going to ohio for a firsthand look for republican volunteers as they fan over the phone and hit the side walks to get their candidates detected. we're looking at how effective that ground game has been. plus, early stretching for tennessee and voting is turning out nearly levels as we saw in the 2016 presidential election. how the recent events dominating the news are influencing voters. we will be back after the break. . another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically 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know it's important. the reporting on the candidates and issues that you care about in all of the key states, one of which is ohio, the home of two very high profile races, democratic senator sharon brown is fighting for thard term against republican congressman and the former bureau director richard cord ray. remember he got the job when elizabeth warren didn't is battling the attorney general in the race to exceed the term limit government john kasich. nbc's shaquille brewster is just south of dayton with a look how the campaigns are working to get the people to the polls. shaquille? >> hello there, we have brand-new information from the secretary of state's office here in ohio. across the state 737,000 have been cast, $1.2 million requested, an increase from what we saw in 2014. but there's also a more competitive rate here in ohio this time around. look behind me. you have volunteers making calls. they're making direct pitches to voters, sort of a closing message as we're about a week way from election day. i want to bring in blaine kelly. he's from ohio's republican party. blaine, what are they saying as they make these calls? >> right now we're a week way from election day. our closing message to the people in ohio is, look, here in ohio our economy is booming. we have the most jobs we have ever seen in the state of ohio and that's because of public policies and we're going to continue that here in ohio. so our message is over the last eight years, the republicans have made this economy strong and we're going to continue to build on that over the next four years if you allow us to do that again. >> blaine, this is a state president trump won in 2016. it's also a state president trump just tweeted his endorsement for mike dewine. why is this race so close? we have polling that shows it neck in neck? >> everybody knows ohio is the constituental swing state in the country. that's something we expected going into this race and we are confident after november 6th, mike dewine will come out on top. >> tell me -- i will toss this to ali quickly but i want to mention vice president pence will be here tomorrow, lindsey graham tomorrow night. donald trump will make a final stop here in ohio. can you tell everyone is having all hands on deck. in effort in the final week. >> everyone also takes ohio seriously. shaquille, good to see you. early voting is under way in tennessee, where the u.s. senate race could play a role who controls that chamber next year. marsha blackburn is facing off against former democratic governor phil bretterson to fill the seat left by republican senator bob corker, who's retiring. nbc's katie beck is at a early voting location in nashville. i'm sure you have the breaking news that taylor swift cast her ballot for phil bredsen. but there's other stuff going on in tennessee too? >> big news for millennials, that was a resounding endorsement from her, giving bredsen her endorsement several weeks ago and posting again today that picture of her and her mother hoping to influence younger voters. and there have been a number of young voters heading into the polls. early voting has seen a massive surge as in other states. 150,000 early voters in the state of tennessee and what's driving interest is the hotly contested senate race in trump country, where trump won by 26 points in 2016, they're in a neck in neck race. polls are showing over the past few weeks blackburn has a slight advantage, four, five-point lead but not strong enough to convince anyone of which way this race was going to go. honestly, the republicans will be the key. moderate republicans, are they going to give democrat phil bredsen a chance? is he going to be able to convince them he's a moderate candidate that can do the job? we did speak to small business owners, conservatives who say they are going to vote for bredsen despite being republicans and longtime conservatives saying this is someone whoa business, this is someone with a record we trust and integrity. so we know there will be some crossovers. whether there will be enough to get a win for the democrat is yet to be seen. ali? >> the early voting ends on thursday, and then i guess does that mean it reopens on tuesday again for regular voting? because it's about to end, are you seeing a rush of people? >> we have seen a steady line of cars. actually people honking to get into parking spots here today. and we actually have visited several polling locations in the area, all of which have had a steady stream. on the first day of early voting is when we saw the most people headed into the polls. but, yes, absolutely a heightened enthusiasm, a heightened interest. when you have one of the most hotly contested senate races in the country that is in a neck in neck basically a tie, there are going to be more and more folks that seem interested in the midterms certainly here in tennessee as a number of other southern states where a lot of people might not have expected these type of competitive races. >> catie, thank you for joining us. up next, kerry alexander in florida from parkland douglas high school, fighting the stereotype of apathy so often associated with this crucial voting block. you're watching msnbc. i can't believe it. that grandpa's nose is performing "flight of the bumblebee?" ♪ no, you goof. i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. nice. i know, right? ♪ [nose plays a jazzy saxophone tune] believe it. geico could save you 15% or more on car insurance. so let's promote our falle a homecomingtravel dealame, on choicehotels.com like this. touchdown. earn a free night when you stay just twice this fall. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com or more for rent every month, paying 1500 dollars newday usa could help you buy a home for what you're paying in rent. that means you could own instead of rent. and by using your va benefit, you don't need a down payment to make it 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other side or dialogue or discourse, you don't blame others. you're not looking to say if the other side did this, then it would be okay. >> because my side isn't always right, you know. we need to listen to each other and talk to each other. there's so much to be gained from listening to what other have to say. constructive criticism can be a good thing, help us move forward to the country, help us do better. so i believe in thoughtful dialogue and thoughtful discourse, and discourse that is useful and helpful. not in what we have right now, this discourse where people are saying, demonizing each other. that doesn't help us. look at this current batch of campaign commercials and they're the meanest i have seen in years. >> and you have seen a lot. >> i have seen a lot. >> you're an african-american republican which puts you on a lot of different sides of a lot of different issues. you have from your career gotten it from both sides, from african-americans who think you shouldn't be a conservative. you probably have had issues within the republican party. how do you -- how do you get to a point where people can respect that there are differences, you actually can have a different view than people assume you're going to have and have a respectful discussion about that? >> i'm an african-american male. i live in this country. i define myself as a black man first. i'm a republican who loves democrats as well as republicans. my family, my friends, most of my friends, many of my friends are democrats, and i love them and i listen to them and i care about what they think. i know i don't have all of the answers and i know neither side has all of the answers but we can certainly learn from each other. if we have a useful dialogue, why can't the best ideas win? you can be a conservative and as i am for civil rights and voting rights and against voter suppression and all of those things that i think are bad. you can be against those things and also still be republican and be a conservative. and you could have love in your heart for people whether you're liberal, moderate or conservative, you can have love in your heart for other people. >> you speak of love, some people speak of empathy. but a lot of people have said to me, and i've had this exchange on social media for the last few days, how do you tolerate someone else's intolerance? so there are a lot of people, particularly liberals in this country, who are saying that there is a bit of a racist fringe in this country that seems to be operating as a swing vote in many districts in this country and possibly on a national level. how do i empathize with somebody who doesn't tolerate that i'm day, black, muslim, a woman, an immigrant, a refugee? how do i extend -- how do i tolerate that? how do i empathize with the fact you have real fears about who i am? >> you have to listen to them first. it helps to listen to what they're saying and what they're saying it and maybe it helps to get to know them and for them to get to know you because sometimes people change. it's not -- there's always the hope people can change, you know. somebody that you met five years ago that was a racist or homophobe might end up being somebody who sees you past the color of your skin and may love you past your gender preference or identification. and that's the hope for this country. we have to talk to each other. we've got to try to understand and we've got to care about our neighbors like you care about ourselves. that to me is probably the most important thing. if you care about your neighbor li like you care about yourself, you try to understand and talk to your neighbor and listen to your neighbor. >> people talk about it and you put it down on paper and i appreciate that and thank you for the dialogue you wish to have. with seven days to go, maybe that's what we need to do, go out and campaign whoever you're campaigning for but maybe reach out to someone who's on the other side and have a conversation with him and show him you're prepared to listen. joe, thank you. and don't send me angry tweets saying you shouldn't talk to the other side because i really believe you should. joe is a political analyst and my friend. let's get back to the road and state of florida where the two biggest races are very close. new university northern florida poll finds the race between incumbent bill nelson and rick scott is inessentially a tie. and andrew gillum is ahead of republican ron desantis by about six points with a 3% margin of error. and these tight races seem to be driving people to the polls. the state's division election report 3 million people have already voted. nbc's kerry sanders in in sarasota on a bus with some younger voters trying to get out the vote. kerry? >> we just got off the bus. you can see it behind me. civic involvement is actually very interesting, it's a lot of fun, it's engaging. to see young people actually getting out and voting, no matter what your political persuasion, it is certainly fun and really engaging to see. joining us are some students here from parkland. you can see from the shirt, the young people will win, saving your kids from gun violence. this is not a single election election, of course. but you have young people joining you. david, i'll talk to you first and then sophie. david, i'm curious, is this about taking people's guns away or where do you come down because this is such a polarizing issue? >> the way i like to describe this to people is march for lives is an organization, it should be seen the same way as people who advocate for safer acars and roads. in the same way that people that advocated for safer roads and cars were not anti-car or pro-car, they were simply pro people not dyeing. we are simply pro people not dyeing. we're not pro second amendment or anti-second amendment. we're pro people not dyeing, whichever way we can do that. >> sophie, we've been on the bus with you. you're going around the country. you hit more than 40 states. you're trying to hit young people to vote to make sure they're registered. i know there were a lot of high fives with first-time voters here today. >> oh, yeah. >> tell me about the connection you think you're making across the country and whether you truly believe when it comes -- we've seen large numbers in the state of early voting, but by election day, do you believe this young vote will be influential? >> absolutely. like even already we're seeing young people turning out in higher numbers than ever before. and i think they were just like young people across the country, including us, are really activated by what happened at our school and what's been going on around our country for the last year. and it's really giving me a lot of hope to see people that probably would have never voted before, were never interested in voting before, really engage in an understanding how important this election is and how important using your voice and exercising your right to vote is. >> not going to be too dismissive of your generation because you guys have surprised so many people with what you have done, but when it comes time to vote, if there's no early voting taking place and in many parts of this country, that's not happening, how are you going to guarantee that the young person who has told you that they're going to vote and then gets invited to a pizza party or something that day and phone goes off and they decide to go somewhere else, how do you get that final step, which is what you have spent so much of your time especially doing? >> i think one of the main reasons we do that is with election reminders through mauf for our lives. we ask people to text change to 9779. >> you're using the technology that your generation is all about? >> yes, we have a shirt that you scan with your phone and registers you to vote. >> i notice you're using snapchat with stories as you're going around here. is that engaging? is it getting other young people to say, hey, i want do this? >> yes, social media is such a social part of our movement and we would never be where we are today, we never even would have had the march for our lives if it wasn't for social media. i think it's just another way our generation has learned to communicate and learned to express themselves and also like the amount of information accessible to us is just unbelievable. >> well, ali, as you know, we're going to really analyze the data when this is all said and done and see really how much of what we're hearing here actually materializes at the ballot box. >> kerry, ask david one more time, what are you supposed to text and to what number to get the information on where to vote? >> sure. somebody young wants to vote, what is it that you want them to te text? what's the number again and qr kwoed you're talking about? >> if a young person wants to vote and doesn't know where their polling place is or wants to be reminded when to vote, text the word change to 97779. three 7s, two 9s. >> and qr code, you guys have it on some of your t-shirts here now, probably a little late to register, because you have to register, it's an interesting thing, a lot of people don't know you can hold your phone up to a funny looking squiggle on a shirt and it gives you a direct link to a website. but you have found -- i know you guys were on "the daly show," you have found that actually works. >> yes, we have given people over 30,000 shirts across the country that register people to vote. it will have a huge difference. >> thank you all for letting us join you and, ali, lie i said, -- like i said, we will see what the numbers show us not too far away. >> text the word change to 97779. i actually used one of those services, no the because i have to be reminded to vote because i work at msnbc. we know when voting day is. but it's important to just get that reminder, did i make time in my schedule next tuesday to vote? is it going to work out? everybody gets busy. please make sure you vote. this is why. and by the way, speaking of social media, a new documentary, the facebook dilemma, takes a look at the social media's platforms influence over democracy and privacy in the united states and across the globe. is facebook more harmful than helpful? it's a question i find myself asking a lot. first, federal authorities are investigating the death of notorious boston gangster james "whitey" bulger. the 89-year-old was found dead this morning in a federal prison in west virginia, the day after he arrived at the facility. federal law enforcement official tells nbc news bulger was killed but didn't offer any other details about what happened. bulger was serving a life sentence after being convicted in 2013 after participating in a string of murders stretching from massachusetts to florida to oklahoma. we will be right back. over one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise 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a closer look at facebook's mission to connect with the world, its explosive growth and issues it created, that growth created, including concerns about data privacy and hate speech. frontline talked with current and former employees who witnessed the company's initial response to those problems. joining me to take a closer look is "the washington post" investigative reporter dana priest, one of the reporters involved in the frontline investigation. nathaniel glacier's pause when asked speaks volumes. >> it does. >> i have not had a definitive answer. is facebook ready? by the way, seven days out is the wrong time to be asking that question anyway because the stuff that influences people to stay home or vote or go to rallies or stay away from rallies has probably already happened. >> right. so they're trying to get ready and they think this is the first big test since 2016. to their own credibility, are they going to fix themselves, or is someone else going to come in and regulate them? obviously, they want the chance to do it by themselves. but how will we know until outsiders begin to look who they begin to tell us what really happened? they have people who are going to be taking down content in realtime. they don't have the machines built yet that can do it at a scale that it needs to be done eventually through artificial intelligence. and what's happening in the midterm elections, what they're trying to do here is replicated all around the world where actually our film shows you a lot of these problems predated the 2016 elections overseas, and there were people who talked to facebook in ukraine and myanmar and the philippines, pleading with them to do something about the bad influence their platform was having in their countries and didn't get things resolved. >> i guess the problem is when trying to figure out whether it's fixed or getting fixed, we're trying to prove a negative, right? the issue here is that if you think this is about -- if you think about election fraud as ballots being changed, that you can figure out. if it's about people who didn't go and vote because of something they engaged in on facebook or they did something else, very hard to determine how people's behavior changed because of their interaction with social media. >> well, i think it's a little bit more specific than that. it's is there -- is there still the same amount of manipulation and disinformation and fake news parading as something else on facebook that shouldn't be there, that violates their community standards but that they didn't catch because they weren't really honestly looking to catch it before? now they say they've turned the corner, they hear everybody, they really realize they should have done better. what they told us is we were too slow, we were too slow to understand that people had bad moat ivz as well. so, no, there are particular things they're trying to get rid of now. >> dana, thank you very much for the work on this. dana priest is "the 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the police officers, two of them congregants who were injured on saturday morning. the question is, what time they'll get here. we also were at the tree of life synagogue earlier today, and also looks like that may be a place where the president and the entourage will visit. just don't know which visit comes first at this point. if he does come here to the hospital, it looks most likely that he's going to come into a driveway just to my rear here, a lot of officers have been staging there in the past hour or so. and there are also some officers just off our camera in left position. earlier today, the depoorartmenf public safety sent a release out to the media basically saying that we all realize that there are going to be protests in town. the city, the mayor, the administration, would like people to continue to remember the families who are beginning to bury their loved ones today. those burials will continue on throughout the week. this is a very busy campus, university of pittsburgh. the commuter campus, a lot of students coming and going. so the traffic and pedestrian traffic is going to be slow, if you will here, probably over the next 60 to 90 minutes as the president's motorcade makes his way here, if he, indeed, isle coming here. we do expect that, ali. >> ron motte, thank you, ron motte is in pittsburgh for us. the president has landed there. we'll continue our coverage of that. just hours after one of the worst attacks ever on the jewish community the president sem essentially said the answer was more guns. specifically he suggested the synagogue should have had an armed guard. some families of the survivors accuse the president of placing the blame on the victims and not the attacker. one family turned down an invitation to meet the president today according to the "washington post." for that reason. for more on this and the larger issue around gun control, i'm joined by shannon watts, the founder of moms demand action for gun sense in america. shannon, thanks for being with me. you made a point on twitter that i saw the other day that while it may be sensible to have security in certain cases, and we know that we've had to have it at schools and a lot of synagogues and places of worship do. the idea that the response to a killing, a targeted killing by somebody who was targeting that group is to suggest that if they had been armed, it would have been better, seems to be a little bit of victim blaming. >> it's definitely victim blaming, and it's really disheartening to hear the president of the united states say that these mostly elderly people that were attending a baby-naming ceremony could have somehow outmaneuvered this mass shooter with a death wish when a s.w.a.t. team wasn't even able to take him out. i mean, four officers were injured. these are highly-trained police officers. the idea that more guns are going to solve our problem is absurd, and we shouldn't have to be armed to the teeth in this country to pray or go to a theater or go to school. you know, if more guns and fewer gun laws were the answer, we wouldn't have a gun homicide rate that's 25 times higher than any of our peer nations. >> you also pointed out, no disrespect to the police and first officers who keep us -- first responders who keep us safe, but shooting moving targets who are intending to kill somebody who are heavily armed is hard for everybody. >> it is, we see studies that show about a 30% rate of the ability of police officers, highly-trained officers, to accurately hit a moving target. it's hard. and then when you have adrenaline and suddenly you want to put guns in the hands of untrained civilians, it's a recipe for disaster. and that's why we are so hopeful that in eight days, americans will go to the polls and vote for gun sense champions and one way that you can find out who your gun sense champions are is to go to gunsensevoter.org and we're very hopeful that in just eight days we will send a very clear message to 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now, it is the end of october. so we have two months to make up for that, but it has been a rough year. see, it went up for most of the year. we're just about where we were when we started the year. all right. that wraps it up for me. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern with stephanie then again at 3:00 p.m. thank you for watching. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington, d.c. our hearts today are with the city of pittsburgh and especially the community of squirrel hill where the first funerals for victims of the tragic shooting inside the tree of life synagogue are taking place. the attack that killed 11 people is one of the deadliest anti-semitic attacks in this country's history. today, donald trump is in pittsburgh to pay his respects. amid protests and pleas from local officials for him stay away. bill, the mayor of pittsburgh, said this. "if the president is looking to come to pittsburgh, i would ask that he not do so while we are burying the dead. our attention and our focus is going to be on them. and we don't have public safety that we can take away from what is needed in order to do both." an

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