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Accomplished in one meeting. He tried the down play expectations in that but we dont have the idea of What Future Conversatio would look like, would he extend the time next week. Have another one in a matter of months, we to be know any of that. But getting things done on the front end is something they are concerned about. Local countries have a lot ride on it. And the president has a lot of shake. We heard from shinzo abe praise for the president to get it thisser if a. There are questith appearances of success versus the substantive success that needs to be determined next week and beyond. President trump may sn be forced to testify under oath thank to multiple depositions he might be facing. On tuesday a judge in new york ruled that President Trump must sit for a deposition in a denamation lawsuit brought by a former apprentice contestant. She accuse had imsexual assault inconsistent there itruth,nd there is truth adjacent statements and outright lies. Its different the stakes are different wn ifngnder oath. Right. Andow we see how popular a potential deponent he is. And as you alluded too, there it is not a yes orthovs. Ether will be required tof thot throw in Robert Mueller for extra fun. If you are if the president does if he is caused to be deposed in any one of these things, are there any rules or can anything happen in any deposition . Depositions are meant to be opportunities to gather information. They are generally fairly loosely run. A lawyer is present. And he can object or she can object to the line of a question. Typically, the questioning keeps going, and objections are held. Obviously, were the president to be deposed he would be represented by counsel and it will be a very tough situation. On the other hand the president has spoken about how much he is wig from time to time to testify, even to Robert Mueller. So we would he to see where he comes out. For now, certain in the Summer Zervos case his lawyers have protested. One of the arguments they make is he is simply too busy. But there is Supreme Court precedent, you may remember fron no one is above the law. Thats what the judge in this case has said. Can donald trumpsit law on what the deposition can include. Anything is possible. They can argue there ought to be limits. It is not a full pg expedition. Take the defamation case, it has to focus on the let me of the case. Significantly here, it was before he was serving as president , which will make it possibly f that deposition to go forward. We know you cant lie if you are being interviewed by the Fb Yoknow Youant Lie in front of a grand jury. What aut for a deposition . Same rules, you cant lie. I woke up this morning to comments that Rudy Giuliani had made at a conference in israel about why he doesnt believe that Stormy Daniels has much credibility. I thought we had largely litigated these things in the past, right, that the idea that he said she is a porn star do we have this . Can we play it our audience . I dont know if we have got it. Kno donald trump look at his three wives. Beautiful women, classy women. Women of great substance. Stormy daniels . I respect all human beings. I eveno respect criminals. But im sorry, i dont respect a porn star the way i respect a career woman or a woman of substance, or a woman who has Great Respect forer as a woman and as a person and isnt going to sell her body for sexual exploitation. So i respect all human beings. I even respect criminals, but im not going to respect a porn star. I hope the legalystem Doesnt Subscribe to this. You know, there is no barrier for her based on her line work to bring the claim she has brought. My reanha isy daniels is an entrepreneur in an industry where the customers are largely men of the it would be prudent for lawyers or men in general to tamp that line down. I was shocked. I was surprised that somebody would think if you are representing the president or any cli t you would put e of argument forward. Certainl has legal basis. I guess what we are wondering is atmospherically does it really help the case . I would argue not so much. It was kind of gross to hear. Lisa green, legal analyst. Coming up, republicans are split about what to do about immigration but some are optimistic that progress might be made. The republican congressman who supports the dockets disposition. And still ahead, the president prepares for the7 summner he imposed tariffed on a new set of imports. We will look at what to expect from the summit when we come back from this quick break. You are watching msnbc. Not cool. Freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting . Now thats cool. 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Quicksilver earns you unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. Actually, thats super easy. My bad. Dont worry too much about the term. Basically it is a move that would move Immigration Legislation out ond onto the house floor for a real detend a vote. Such a move two course Speaker Paul Ryan to call on aill he doesnt like or isnt sure he has the support for. House democrats joined about 23 republicans in congress using this maneuver to force a vote fo immigtion proposals. They Almos Enosignates tpull th. Speaker ryan trying to hold off an a hisuthors and prevent mayhem in the republican conference is trying to hold the line. He is negotiating with the various fashions top with a unifi gop plan for Immigration Legislation to introduce sometime later this summer. All of this comes at a time at a time when arrests at the u. S. Border with mexico are on the upswing. Topping 50,000 in may for the third straight month. Joining a republican congressman from nevada w supports the petition. This is not just a matter of supporting something onhe me it is rrie y like many members of the congress on both sides of the aisle are frustrated with the fact we havent moved forward on some meaningful Immigration Legislation legisl you are description of the procedural tool th the Discharge Petition is and leading into this is pretty darn accurate. You for ischarge petition doesnt mean im going the vote specifically on any one of those. But it meents i want the legislative process, i want a chance to go to rules committee and offer amendments. And i wan a cnc to vote on the floor. You say why is that . Its like does anybody think the status quo is working regardless of what your plitsds are . Thats right. We have had this conversation, and its meaningful for you and your constituents to get this done. Im not bothered by the fact that not all republicans are not on the same side. That is the beauty of our pluralistic republican democracy. But is there enough Common Ground to get something happening . I dont know. I mean the senate tried voting king of the hill. They had a vota on this and they didnt pass anything. That could be in the result in the house, too. But to be prohibited as being reported forr against something when you are a legislator is a curious thing. Rememberthe es ge us ch 6th adline, 90 days in the Rearview Mirror now. When we talk about what is the magic of continuing to do nothing . You have got me. Already some issues on immigration where there is not commongreement amongst republicans and certainly not agreement with democrats on the border wall, this is issue thats very for people the come to terms with. But on the issue of some solution for the dreamers forth almost of one mine on this. I think most republicans want some resolution to this. What does it down to . That some republicans are okay with a path to citizenship for you know, when you look at . That particular issue you say years. E president was citizenship was at the end. Bob god lat was talking three years but he had to keep signing up. Thats fine. Put together on the floor and lets see what the Amendment Process produces and then see what people actually vote for. This bit where we are saying i dont want the bring something unless i know, et cetera a going to be signed into law. Withllue respect I Dont Kn Anybodyho a 100 crystal ball here. Remember when we took health care to the floor . Guess what . We took the hard votes and it didnt get into law. Are we supposed to shut everything down . No. Thats the process that your nstituents want to see, some legislative process. This is the part that frustrates people, things stuck in committee and conversations go on in the small groups but it is tough to defend nothing. Judge me by how i vote. Thats thisbusiness. Give me a chanc the vote. Setting up this Hurdle Thatsi D unless i know its going to pass is like well f we did everythinghat way we probably wouldnt have a country right now. What do you say to those people i did it i was a bit tongue in cheek when i said Speaker Paul Ryan is holding off a mutiny. It isnt muteny but it is a coma i think to the way Leadershipngs S be done. Through committee and such. How do you see pushing back on the leadership. There3ep that have a higher Voting Percentage with the president than the speaker is. This isnt a bunch of people running around trying to tear things down. Secondly, there is probably general agreement on 80 f e issues. Are we going to let the perfect be the competitor to the good . After this long the last tim we were listening to cassette decks. Some of your viewers dont even know wha cassettes are. Good to talk to you. Comi u nex wll other side of the Immigration Debate among republicans. 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Retaliatory tariffs, everything from lamps to pork and cheese to flat steel. Some of the tasks aimed at the Agricultural Sector are set to double nex month testimony retaliatory tariffs hit 3 billion of american gd flowing across the border to the south. The European Union is targeting similar commodities including whiskey,ycles, denim, tobyio, juices and more. Those tariffs target 3. 4 billion worth of goe goods flowing from the United States across the atlantic ocean. Canada is ting the hardest stance. In addition to some of the same items targeted by mexico and the eu, they plan to hit pizza, chocolate, paper prodawn mothers, household appliances, shaving creams, soaps, pat res asks Playing Cards and more. Do you know what you have to do to canadians to make them put a tariff on kegs, beer kegs . The canadian tariffs are going to hit 12. 8 billion worth of american products. All together three of our biggest Trading Partners are putting tariffs on nearl 30 billion worth orts f the United States. Now the u. S. Tariffs and the retaliatory measures come as President Trump prepares to head to canada for this weekends g7 summit. The president is going to face angry allies when he m with the leaders of canada, the ance, germany, italy, and japan. Trump imposed these tariffs because of concerns about chinese steel flooding the market and hurting american companies. Instead, this has turned into a fullblown trade war with some of americas closest allies. Joining us now to have a closer look at this, jane harmon, president of the Woodrow Wilson center and linda yu a professor at Oxford University and author of the book, what would economists do. Thothf you for being here. Thank you. Thanku. Listen darks what you right about in your book, you about back to some of the Emis The1700s and 1800s when bryn was the big economy in the world. Their understanding of the fact that if you have a Trade Deficit if you are a wealthy country and you have Trade Deficits with other countries thinkore creatively. Its not necessarily a bad thing that you use t cash that you have t buy other peoples cheaper goods. You think about why for instance america has a Trade Deficit. It has had a Trade Deficit since at least the second world war. A lot of it is because if you have a stronger dollar you can actually buy more goods. It helps your own economy. I should also say that one of the lessons from ricardo some of the great economists is that all economies are based on trade being free. But it is a not. Another approach would be to say listen the biggest thing america produces are services. It is a hard to Sell Services globally. Its not as open as selling, say, aer ka. Therefore, lets open up the services market,t america is really good at. That would improve the Trade Balance and probably make our allies not so angry. Thats an interesting partf though is that we have in terms of Manufacturing Workers in ica,oth parties have been responsible for spinning a tale that somehow we are going to make things better for them. We are going to buy cheaper ods me in other countries by lower wage workers but well fix your problem in ever inning america. Somehow. I dont know what we are going to do for them. We we always promised them we would do something. They fed up and voted for donald trump who said im going to do something for you. They got fed up. But to the just for that reason. Automation is taking jobs worldwide and we havent figured out the next generation of good jobs for enough people. We also dont have our Education System aimed at train people forn high school for some of those jobs. About you the other piece of this tt head spinning is how this administration doesnt lynch a to b to c. Where are we getting in a trade war with europe and our closest allies based on the National Security stion of the trade law when we are letting zte, this massive Telecommunications Firm in china, which does things that have huge National Security implications off the hook . And why are we do this right now when t president is heading to europe to singapore next week to negotiate where we need our allies. A huge deal a potentially huge and possibly successful deal with north korea . Why are we doing this. Linda, the fact is one of the great thing about trade when done right over all of history you look back at some of the small nation states used to trade with everyone, because they had peace with everyone. Maybe they had peace because they traded with everyone. But there is a relationship between good trade and peace. So where you are looking for a world with more peace, keeping your eyes on board is probably a good strategy. It is a good strategy. What we have learned is that globalization if done right really does bring prost pair. We have seen a lot of that around the world. I think the problem with the moving workers is that globalization hasnt helped everybody. Rit. There a tse who have been left behind. Not just by globalization, but also by technology. If you look at the hollowing out of the middle class, median wages in this country have been stagnant for four decades. That made people say the status quo doesnt work we want something different. I think that is legitimate. However how you get to the better outcome, i think that is the he could. In order for you to have a better trade relationship with your Major Trading partner the European Union is our Major Trading partner. You ought to have a

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