Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20170717 :

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20170717

Dropped to 36 . It is the lowist six month Approval Rating of any president in polls going back 70 years. So what exactly are people not liking . Well, first, manners. Say he has acted in a way that is unpresident alsince taking office. 68 dont see the president of the United States as a positive role model. 68 say his conduct is damaging to the presidency overall. This number actually includes 38 of republicans. A new monday mouth poll that just came out shows that 41 think that donald trump should be impeached and compelled to leave the presidency. According to bloombergs poll, 58 za prove of how President Trump handle is relations with other countries. Now to some portions of these polls you likely heard less about, if at all. The people who are sticking with donald trump no ha matter what. Check this out. 24 think that donald trump has acted in a way thats fitting and proper for a president. 23 believe that President Trump is doing a better job than prior president s. 27 think americas leadership in the world has gotten stronger under donald trump. 24 are very confident that President Trump has put the countrys interests ahead of his business and family when dealing with foreign leaders. And believe it or not, 26 believe it was appropriate for donald trump, jr. To meet with that russian lawyer who said she had damaging information about hillary clinton. So it seems like roughly a quarter of americans will not stop supporting President Trump no matter what he does. Now, some may be surprised by those numbers, but during the primaries youll remember donald trump voters stuck with him through thick and thin. My people are so smart. And you know what else they say about my people . The polls. They say i have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that . Where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters. Okay . That just never gets old. Donald trump you remember was the leader of the Birther Movement from the start. Hes been playing to this voter base for a very long time. And with gerrymandering and high voter enthusiasm, this core support of donald trump voters may be more powerful than some people think. Finally, 67 za prove of President Trumps use of twitter. Meanwhile, the president tweeted on sunday, the abc Washington Post poll, even though almost 40 is not bad at this time, was just about the most inaccurate poll around election time. Okay. Lets get right to the white house, nbcs hans nichols was part of this or had just been listening into this off camera briefing with sean spicer. Its still continuing. So im going to ask you about these poll numbers in just a moment. But first, sean spicer did address a tweet that President Trump sent out this morning about how most politicians would have accepted a meeting like done junior did. And ali, he went a little bit further in that and science just moments ago here at the white house said that theres nothing out there to suggest that this meeting wasnt about adoptions. This meeting that done junior had. In some ways hes resuscitating, hes reviving the initial defense that this meeting was about adoptions and the magnitsky act, not about the pretext of the emails rft meeting which we saw when the emails was released and they were gigd into this meeting potentially by having a conversation about information on hillary clinton. So in some ways theyre going back to the earlier defense. Just other quick highlights from that briefing. The president according to spicer was very active all weekend from his place there in bed minister, making is calls on health care, defend sg the president s ratio of tweets about the female Golf Tournament and his tweets on health care. Its a six to four ratio saying tweets just take a couple seconds. He was working on the phone all weekend. And just real quick for you, ali. Ible were going to have some sound in just a second. What hes doing on health care, hes almost doing the old two step on this. One, saying that this is Mitch Mcconnells baby, that Mitch Mcconnell is very skilled, he can get this across the line. At the same time saying that the president is remaining ti. Somewhere along the line the white house is going to have to make a decision. Is this President Trumps bill or is it Mitch Mcconnells bill. And right now they still seem to be splitting the baby just a little bit. All right. As you said, the breeflg has just ended so we can play some of this. Lets just listen in together. Whats the white houses position on whether or not its okay to meet with a hostile government for opposition research. Look, you know im not going to get into the specifics of it. But i will say that its quite often for people who are given information dpurg the heat of a campaign to ask what that is. Thats what simply he did. The president has made it clear through his tweet, and there was nothing as far as we know that would lead anyone to believe that there was anything except for a discussion about adoption and the magnitsky act. But i would refer you back to counsel on that one. All right. So thats what you were talking about, hans. Interesting about how that always ends, i will refer you back to counsel on that, the president s coins or done juniors counsel. And thats sort of are become a bit of a pattern for both the on and off camera breefgds when reporters ask a great deal with the russia probe. That has got to be difficult for either the president s personal lawyers or done juniors or Jared Kushners because the president continues to tweet things and then the white house refuses to go any further with many of these issues. And ali, spicer suggested there that he didnt know for certain that ty cobb did not review president s tweet this morning on where he thought what his son did was appropriate. So presumably this is ty cobbs brief, right. He has the portfolio inside the white house dealing with this investigation, dealing with russia matters, and yet, according to sean spicer, he said he did not believe he reviewed that very tweet by the president , which could potentially complicate this investigation. Right. And that was these are always the reasonings we hear that theres somebody else and a new lawyer and someone is going to be adding to this. All right. Hans nichols, good to see you. Thanks very much for joining us. We will stay with this story and well catch up with you a little later in the hour. Okay. Were still following the latest on this ever evolving situation. Just going to listen in to see what it is. I should be doing next. Were following this. All right. Kristen welker is in the Briefing Room where that briefing, the not on camera audio only briefing has just wrapped up. Kristen, tell us what else happened in there. Well, as hans just sort of laid out, a number of the headlines had to do with the russia probe and also health care. Given that theres going to be a delay on a procedural vote this week, some proponents of the legislation are concerned that that will give opponents more traction, more time to knock this bill out. So i asked press Secretary Sean Spicer what the president was going to do about it. He said hes going to be very engaged. Take a listen to what he had to say. Is the president resigned to the idea that it seems unlikely that the senate will vote on any type of repeal and replace bill anytime in the immediate future . I know senator mcconnell has made it clear that he would like senator mccain back. And as soon as senator mccain can travel back and senator mcconnell feels its appropriate, hell schedule that vote. We feel very confident about where we are now, and we look forward to getting that bill on the president s desk and getting it signed. Reporter and, ali, the president also saying or sean spicer saying that the president is going to invite lawmakers here to the white house later this evening. We asked for a specific list. No details. But he indicated hes going to be very active in these final days. That will be a difference from what we have seen over these past several weeks, because the president has really let Vice President mike pence when it comes to outreach from the white house, and all eyes have been on what the president would do knicks. So well be watching to see just how engaged he gets. But again, a lot of questions about the russia probe. I also asked spicer if the president thinks now that this is a legitimate investigation. Remember this is something that he has referred to as a hoax and a witchhunt. And spicer sort of dodged that question saying that it had already been answered over the weekend. It is clear this is an issue that isnt going away. Thats why President Trump did bring on ty cobb to serve as sort of the outreach and the point person here at the white house on this very critical issue. Okay. Kristen. Thanks very much for the update. Thank you for the clarity that you bring to it. Lets carry on with this discussion of the ever evolving situation surrounding the meeting between donald trump jr. , a kremlin linked attorney, a russian american lobbyist who is also a former soviet counterintelligence agent. Nbc news reports at least six people were now in that june 9th, 2016 meeting in trump stour. This as the Washington Post is reporting that President Trumps Campaign Committee made a payment to the law firm of an attorney representing donald trump jr. Last month, nearly two weeks before it was announced that the same attorney would be representing the president s son in russia related probes. For more i want to bring in one of the authors on this report, Washington Post reporter. Good to see you. It is impossible to keep up. I dont know how youre doing it, with all of the developments in this. But tell us the significance of this newest development. Sure. So the latest Campaign Finance report that came out for the president s Reelection Committee showed a huge spike in legal fees paid pi the committee, including a 50,000 retainer paid to a criminal defense attorney who is representing donald trump jr. In this russia probe. The campaign would not answer questions about whether this payment was in fact connected to the representation in this matter. But it does show that there was a payment made to him before even President Trump said he knew about this meeting. Ma taka, there is also, maybe its the same thing or its not. There was an 89,000 payment for Legal Consulting that was paid by the Donald Trump Campaign to the trump corporation, a reimbursement for legal fees. Or what do we know about that . So unfortunately the Campaign Committee is not answering any questions about that. But, yes, it appears to be some sort of reimbursement for legal fees. Its ponl that the general counsel of the Trump Organization was involved in some sort of legal work in producing documents related to this probe. We obviously have seen many reimbursements to the Trump Organization and its related entities over the course of the campaign for services such as rent and travel and hotels. Those were all payments that drew a lot of scrutiny and some criticism that the Trump Campaign was using money to spend money on its own properties. This is the first time, however r weve seen legal sftsz attributed to the trump corporation. The viewers are seeing pictures of the president inspecting heavy industrial equipment, a cat vehicle there with Vice President pence. This is, of course, are made in america week. Were going to talk a little bit more about that later. Its worth noting that it is permitted under federal law for the campaign to be reimbursed for Legal Expenses that had to do with campaign activity. It would not be permitted under law for the campaign to be reimbursed for Legal Expenses that are unrelated to campaign activity. But i guess that becomes subject to interpretation, whats campaign activity. Correct. And that is really the test is whether these Legal Expenses would have been incurred if the campaign did not exist. And if the campaign is spending money on legal payments, that has to be for some sort of representation involving activity related to the campaign. And so if this retainer indeed was to donald trump jr. s attorney for the russia probe, that suggests the campaign views his meeting as connected to a political activity. Thanks for your great reporting. Shes a political reporter with the Washington Post. Coming up, i was just mentioning made in america week at the white house. Something im going to hazard a guess the president , the man behind the donald trump clothing line doesnt really know much about. Where are the shirts made . Bangladesh. Thats good. 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Businesses, if theres no capacity is it appropriate to make those things overseas . Well, think about all of the things that we buy every day. Of course theres a market because we depend in this country for so many goods and services, some of which are made in america, some of which arent. Okay. That was White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer a short time ago talking about products made in america and made overseas. This is, of course, made in america week after all and thats prompted people to ask some interesting questions having to do with the economy. For starters, take a look at the stock market today. This has the potential to be the fourth Straight Record close when the markets close in about 40 minutes. Nine points, ten pints. I dont need to tell you this. The stock market is no longer a perfect indicator of how the American Economy is doing. Made in america week gives us and gives me the opportunity to talk about something that looms even larger for the average american, and that is the delicate tug of war between lowpriced goods and manufacturing things here in the United States. And i have the perfect guy to have this conversation with me, my brother from another mother, ron, and you i been having this conversation in different ways since we had hair. This is a real problem. Thats about right, 30 years. This is a real problem because americans in fact, i want to put up a chart of wage pressure in the United States, where hourly wages have been since 2007. I think weve got that. And what youll see is that they are down. They are starting to come back up again, but the American Worker has not seen their wages go up in a meaningful way. They want cheap stuff. So we want high wage jobs and we want low priced goods. Those two things work in opposition to each other. They do. And they can be commute wael exclusive. When you look at walmart which was in some ways one of the first big zrupgsz to take place on the goods side in the retail world. Now a lot of that material that they brought in was outsourced and made elsewhere. Right. And so those costs for consumer goods came down dramatically. Even as manufacturing was also outsourced at the same time. Right. So if youre in a closed economy where everything is made here, prices will be higher and open economy things will be elsewhere, prices will go down but wages wont go as much. A put that chart up. And its worth showing because when we see this, sl average hourly rages in this country, 26. 25. Its up 2. 5 from last year. This is too little money. You cant be weltdy or prosperous on that kind

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