this week. but we're still working towards getting at least 50 people in a comfortable place. we're to the white house at 4:00. president invited us. the white house has been very much involved this these discussions. they're very anxious to help. we appreciate the invitation and i hope our members will head down. i think that will likely be the case. >> as you heard, prump has invited all republican senators to the white house for a 4:00 p.m. meeting. let's go to garrett, first of all, have they left? are they on their way to the white house? >> actually, you can see the bus right over my shoulder here they've pulled up and parked outside the capitol. closing off the driveway here and waiting for senators to come out and ride a couple of miles down pennsylvania avenue to talk to the president. just a few minutes ago, sean spicer rk who's making an unusual trip here to capitol hill in the middle of the day rk just left to take his own ride back to the white house as is his way, he said little about what he was doing here or hoped to accomplish on the hill beyond working with is that rights . my take away was that the president was less concerned with the timeline of getting something done, than of -- on this bill. that's what i heard from republican senators here as their meeting broke up. tom tillis of north carolina. said the the additional time here is a good thing. there's a lot of work that needs to be done here on this bill. a frankly open desire to try to work with democrats on finding a solution that might be more durable. than a democratic pass to affordable care act and an entirely republican past effort to praek it down. >> to be clear rk when you talked to her earlier, you sort of indicated and some viewers may not know what she was a likely no on this bill. there were a lot of reasons for that. >> sure. that's true. she has some unique issues to alaska. alaska is a place, low population tensity, a hot of people on medicate. and lisa murkowski has been a -- of planned parenthood. that was thought to be a nonstarter for her. she said straight up, anything the republicans are doing needs to be done in a way that improves care. and so an effort to strip funding for planned parenthood which has to do with their involved abortions, she said anything we're doing on health care bill should be to improve care. >> we're going to have an executive from planned parenthood on today to discuss those matters. while this is wraeking news, a surprise to some, if you could count, this wasn't a surprise. tov to have this vote on thursday with five republican senators, another eight or so saying no, mcconnell could not afford to lose those kinds of numbers. sean spicer wants a right bill. that was the hurry in the first place? >> a feeling on capitol hill rk really always when dealing with big legislation that the fast e you can get it done, the better. ep something that's going to be this contention. the more you send senators home to take fire, the harder it is to get done. we woke up this morning rk had six senators that were dwoing to vote no. the question was rk how many would vote to send them to the floor. at 10:30 this morning, i asked john cornen if they thought they had the votes. they realized this was an intractable math problem and needed to go back to the drawing board. that's where we are now. >> all right, it appears to be at the white house or being set up there. i swrus want our viewers to listen to the quick interaction you had with sean spicer, who doesn't typically show up at the capitol. let's listen. >> huh? >> discussion with senators. health care and -- >> sorry. >> okay. >> important subject. >> is it the president talking to the senators or listen to their concerns? >> two way street. he wants to hear their ideas. so, we look forward to hearing what they have on their minds and figuring out what we can do to replace. >> his defense of why they don't put more briefings on camera, there are certain times where he wants only the president to speak to the president. his evasiveness suggests to me we will hear president trump probably speak on this today when these republican senators come to the white house. i think that's what you saw there was potentially an effort to not get in the way of whatever president trump might say about this later today. zwl a. >> are you left with some schedule with what happens next? i know the buses are going to head to the white house. there's a meeting at 4:00. we don't have any other plan after that. >> no, i hate to say this on television, but we have no idea. the ball is entirely in mitch mcconnell's court here. they could go back to the committee process for this. they could go back behind closed doors. they could decide they want to go on recess on thursday and call it a week and deal with it when they get back in a week. this is entirely a mitch mcconnell decision. >> okay. thanks very much for this. appreciate it. going to be speaking to you again shortly. i want to go a breakdown of what the current bill means for your premiums. now, i ask you to be patient. this is complicateded. it's a lot of information and by the way, this is about the premiums, the stuff you would pay if you are in the individual market. not if you get your insurance through your work or medicare. aca, aca,obama care. r, resolution act. trump care. restoration act. this is frutrump care. under obama care, premiums were going to be going up that year by 5.5%. under trump care. the cbo says premiums are go up by 4.4% that year. so, remember, when people say lower premium, they're lying. the it's just not true. there are no lower premiums, they go up by less. now, what we use d and what the cbo uses when talking about o obama care, a 40-year-old making 57,000, just a little over the narc average for someone of what age, silver plan, $6500 a year in premiums, under trump care rk it's $5,000, but you're not getting the same deal because under obama care, you're getting in the bronze plan rk you're getting 60% coverage. silver gave you 70%, but trump care rk it's 58%. so you have to move from comparing it to the silver plan to bronze plan, so that's where this becomes different and now, i'm going to take the same 40-year-old making a lot less. about half. 26,500. this is by no means a wealthy person. just above the the poverty line. the aca bronze, the obama care bronze package with the sub subsidies in 2026 would cost you $700 a year. under trump care by 2026, that same low income person is going to be paying $1600 a year. more than double under obam care. when you hear people on capitol hill saying premiums are going down rk i've shown you two camera pm where is they're not. one is going is going up by -- 64-year-old. too much for you to qualify for medicaid. you don't work for a company. not old enough for medicare. under the bronze program with subsidies, you pay $4400 a year. you get no credits. if you're 60 years old in that salary bracket, so you would have paid $4400. you're going to $16,000. consider that while we listen to sar sarah huckabee sanders. >> we've got a full set of action frs the president's cabinet today on everything from global human trafficking to assistance funding for small communities. this morning rk iivanka trump joined secretary tillerson releasing the trafficking and persons report. she said this morning rk human trafficking is a human rights issue. that affects millions and this report is an tool for the administration to combat this tragic problem. the full report is available on the state department website. i encourage you guy to take a look. also this morning, the the department of veteran affairs hosted a meeting of robotics experts for a health care round table. the va is embarking on the largest transformation and modernization effort in recent history. part of that will be developing a robust robotics program within the department. yesterday, the interior department announced a record $464.6 million allocation to help small communities further demonstrating the trump administration's commitment to all americans. in states like utah, which received nearly $40 million and nevada which received $26.2 million, these investments are an important part of the federal government's role as land manager and neighbor to local community, including many of those that play a big role in feeding and powering our nation. many of these small communities in states like nevada are being hit particularly hard as health care insurance premiums rise and insurers flee their o bamcare exchanges. it's because of the people who have no choice for themselves and their families that it's so critical the senate votes to repeal and replace obama care. every day, a new announcement is made that puts health care out of reach. whether insurers are hiking up rates or leaving markets entirely. today rk the vice president is on the hill to attend the senate policy lunch and hold additional meetings and he'll be hosting senators at dinner tonight in his residence. both the president and vice president are fully engage d wih the senate and are hope tog create consensus. the president talked with several republicans members including cruz, paul rk capito and johnson. he's invited all republican senators to the white house this afternoon to continue these discussions. the president is optimistic that republicans will live up to the promise by repealing and replacing obama care. i know you guys are probably a little bit tired rk so you want to skip on the questions? figured it was worth a shot. and with that, i'll take your questions. charlie. >> recently -- challenged the accuracy of the cnn story rk afterward, it was retracte ee e deleted and the editors were fired. one of the targets of the story, the president went on twitter this morning and repeated cnn was fake news. why isn't there a response for the president? >> i don't know it's the response. report, there are multiple other instances where that outlet you referenced has been wrong and had to poibt that out or be corrected. there's a video circulating now whether it's accurate or not. i don't know. frankly everybody across the country to take a look at it. i think it's a disgrace to all of media, all of journalism. i think we have gone to a place where if the the media can't be trusted the report the news, that's a dangerous place for america and i think if that is the place that certain outlets are going, particularly for the purpose of spiking ratings, if that's coming from the top rk i think that's even more scary. and more disgraceful. i hope that that's not the direction we're headed. i hope that outlets that have continued to use either unnamed sources, sometimes, stories with no source s at all. we've been going on this russia trump hoax for the better part of a year now with no evidence of anything. things like the success at the va barely get covered. they may get covered for an hour at a time, but this story gets covered day in, day out and i think america is frankly looking for something better. for something more. and i think they deserve something better from our news media. sorry. >> actually expect us not to report on stories of a foreign country trying to influence the presidential election. >> i don't think it's that it's pektsed you're not to report on again, actual news if there's something there, but again rk i think there are a lot of things happen ng this world that a lot of people would like to hear about. whether it's job growth, deregulation, tax reform, health care. i think a lot of those things deserve more coverage than they get and all we're saying is you know i think we should take a good look at what we are focused on. what we are covering and making sure that it's actually accurate and it's honest. if we make the slightest mistake, the slightest word is off rk it is just an absolute tirade from a lot of people in this room. but news outlets get to go on day after day and cite unnamed sources, use stories without sources, have you know rk you mentioned the story where they had to have reporters resign. >> come on , this administratio has done that as well. why in the name of heavens isn't one of us right replaceable and any of us, if we don't get it right, the audience has the opportunity to turn the channel or not read us. you have been elected to serve for four years at least. there's no option other than that. we're here to ask you questions. you're here to provide the answers and what you just did is inflammatory to people all over the country who look and say see once again rk the president is right and everybody else is fake media. everybody b in this room is only trying to do their job. >> i disagree completely. first of all, if anything has been enflamed rk it's the dishonesty that often takes place by the news media. i think it is outrageous for you to accuse me of enflaming a story when i was simply trying to respond to a story. >> rapid fire because i know we're in a bit of a long briefing here. would it be fair -- how would you describe the president's mood on health care rk concer, concerned, encouraged and what did you make of the cbo spoiler then secondly, i'm going to ask you about the warning to syria. what's the message that the administration wants to convey, not just to the world community, but to the american people who see headlines like that and they wonder are we hurdling headlong into a major situation in that part of the world. >> i'll start with health care first. obviously, we're continuing to be optimistic. the president is committed, he said in all the members of the administration have said repeatedly to repealing and replacing obama care rk work wg the senate and house making sure we get the best bill for us. it's never been about the timeline rk but about the best piece of legislation. that's what we're continuing to do day in day out rk that's the reason the president has asked members of the senate to come here today so they can talk through that. so they can figure out the best way to move the ball forward. that's the goal of the the meeting this afternoon. and that's the goal of the administration. in terms of the the cbo score, as we said yesterday, the the cbo is a budget office and while it does well at time, predicting things on budget, whether it's revenue or spending, i don't think it does a great job and i think the administration's been clear and consistent that we don't always agree that it does a great job of predicting coverage. i think we is that true given their history, they projected that obama care, there would be 24 million people part of that. there were only 11 and that number is dropping every day. so i don't have a lot of confidence in that number on that part, but i think some of the places where they do a good job b are on the budget and revenue side and the cbo score that they pointed out was that it would cut deficits by $300 billion and cut taxes by $700 billion. i think those are good things and when they focus on the the budg bug side, that's a good thing. >> the warning to syria, what's your message. to the international community and also to the american people who may be concerned when they read a headline like that, that they're thinking we may be hurdling toward a situation that involving the thes u.s. >> i think the message from the statement yesterday was extremely clear. i don't think the it was a gray area. pretty black and white. >> can you explain because you went on the record this morning, what the process was that led to that statement last night. were members of the team at the state department taken aback by, can you give us an idea of how the prosecco worked rk deliberate that statement then create the statement for public release? >> leadership from the state department, dod, dni, the cia, as well as members of the administration within this building, were part of that process from the beginning. and fully aware. >> give us a timeline from the beginning? yesterday or -- >> i'm not going to walk through the detail process of the timeline for intelligence purposes. >> on health care. you said you accept or fine -- of the cbo numbers. >> i mean, they're a budget office. on the initial numbers we saw from that, the cutting of the deficit, of taxes, i think that's where historically rk they've been more accurate. it's not just my, like i've decided that, but historically, that's where they've been. >> for the purposes of the public looking at this, would this administration accept the budget and revenue numbers published yesterday as generally speaking? valid and worth taken seriously? i would think so for the most part. in large, yes. jennifer. >> two things. one on google and one on economic forecast. so, european officials have slapped google with this $2.7 million fine. is the white house cool with european regulators hitting a u.s. company when our federal trade commission hadn't accused them of behavior? >> i don't have anything for us to weigh in on. the regulations of a private company, but if anything change, i'll let you know. >> on the international monetary fund rk they lowered their forecast for u.s. economic growth down to 2.1%. which is lower than what president has been hoped for. can you share reaction on what you think about this new forecast? >> i haven't had a chance to dig into that but we'll circle back with you on it. jim. >> you called on me. >> sorry rk jim, let me take kristen. i'll come back to you. >> thank you. appreciate. if syria is poised to launch another chemical weapons attack, isn't that an acknowledgment that the air strikes didn't work in april? >> i think our goal every day is to do what we can protect life in all forms and to take steps to move the ball forward in defeating is isis including all efforts of terrorism and i think the statement yesterday did that. >> when air strikes didn't dissuade -- >> i don't know that it didn't. based on what we know. >> was there a principles meeting, deputies meeting before that statement was issued last night? >> i know there was a routine meeting that took place yesterday. i don't believe that there was anything beyond that. >> two questions. given the news about cnn -- >> be careful letting nbc set your standard. >> given the the news cnn's erroneous story, does the white house believe there are other russia related stories from major outlets that have not been retracted and are just as false including the february 14th story in "the new york times" about collusion between the trump campaign and russia which james comey called into question rk which many believe the the cnn story was based upon. >> i would have to look back at that specific story. there have been many. by "the new york times" that i would probably disagree quite a bit with. i think you could take it pretty straightforward that this administration disagrees with all of the stories that claim that the president and his campaign colluded with russia in any capacity. so, i think he's been extremely clear. that he believes that's a hoax and certainly something that's not true and didn't take place and any story related to that you would i think find frustration here. >> cnn retraction. does the white house now believe the news media have an obligation to review stories on the russian trump issue and retract questionably sourced stories on the opic? >> sorry? not following. >> do you believe the immediame should go back an look at anonymously sourced stories on russia and trump and maybe start a review process and retract where necessary? >> i think that would be a great idea. i certainly don't think you would get arguments from us if there were retractions from outlets on fake stories. but i also think there's a moment where we can all do better. i think that's what we strive to do every day and hopefully rk that's the goal. i know it is of many and hopefully it will continue to be of o not just the news media, but everybody involved in the process to continue to do better, to continue to strive for excellence and to continue to deliver the best we can for the american people. >> health care questions. >> you accept the budgetary calculations of the cbo, but not the projections on how many people would be insured. what about their projections on what would happen to premiums and deductibles? >> i think they said yesterday that the premiums would duodown roughly 30% by 2020. that seems based on what we've done internally pretty consistent. >> they would go way up. the only -- >> no, but i think in general and largely, they predicted they'd go down 30% by 2020. >> another question. the president promised that his health care plan would not have cuts to medicaid. does he believe that a family of four making $60,000 is too much money to qualify for medicaid is this in other words, that's just too high an income? >> i don't know about a specific level breakdown. again, there's a reason he's bringing senators over here today to talk through. we know there's going to be changes. we know there's going to be adjustments. the thing the president was committed to was making sure that anybody that currently receives medicaid, that's not touched and that is consistent with what's in the bill and will continue to be what he fights for. >> you said the house bill was too mean. does he believe the senate bill is less mean? as mean? more mean? >> honestly, i haven't asked him whether he thinks the senate bill, the mood of it, but i'll check on that and get back to you. thanks, guys so much. >> can i ask you a question? sarah? >> saying a lot after a press conference that was very interesting. got into a heated debate with a particular reporter then there was a question toward the end which was quite particular. looks like she may have asked it herself. but i need to move on because i've got a member of congress who has been waiting patiently throughout this entire thing. mark of nevada who's been a friend of the show. good to see you rk congressman. >> good to see you. first of all, i have to correct something. she was not watching my show before she started. there's no circumstance, going to ask my control room if they could show you this screen. under obama care , by 2026, tha year, was going to go up 5.5%. bcra, the senate bill, indicates it would go up by 4.4% a year. i think you understand this very well. under no forecast anywhere are insurance premiums going down. they might just go up by less. but they haven't gone down ever. >> well, that's an accurate statement of the reality which kind of underlining the real fact that people ought to be talking about at least a little bit, ali, which is if somebody thinks there's a sweet spot in health care, i'd like them to show us all where it is because there isn't one. it's going to be a long rk tough slog to get out of this. >> which is why i don't what this hurry is. why is july 4th matter. this is a really, really complicated matter. i spent four hours studying this thing after the score came out and this is the world in which i live. this is complicated stuff. >> it is and i learned from when we went through it over here rk did you read the bill, yeah, but the the question you ought to ask, how many times did it take you to read it before you understood because it is a complex subject and it's important this initial start, get it as right as much possible, but if anything thinks tl going to be perfection out of any plan in the initial stages of this, it's like, well, good luck, i hope you're right. the history isn't there. >> you're pretty active as i am on social media, so when you come on the show rk i hear from a lot of your folks. you come from a state that is a medicaid expansion state. you've got a senator who said he can't support this. when i last talked to you, you were on the fence about this house bill. you did end up voting in favor of it. >> that was because we went and did a deep dive on medicaid expansion. everybody talks about medicaid without differing between the the traditional and expansion. on the house bill on extangs, basically said if you're on it rk you can stay on it until you're 65 unless you eastern over eastern over 138%. you mentioned when you talk b about the cbo, they need to put their head on a swivel and look at 360 degrees. in nevada, one of the things governor sandoval takes credit for is that unemployment is dropping. they get their insurance through private plans, so it is reas reasonable to hope that as the unemployment picture continues to develop that more people are going to be joining that group and therefore rk not need the safety net which when you dif wrennuate between traditional medicaid and expansion in nevada, the expansion folks are in single digits. all of medicaid is about 13% in nevada. >> these distinctions are important because most people in america get their insurance through their work. and those people who go on these exchanges which your party has been carry iing on about how they're imploeding and death spiralling, that's 10 or 11 million people. 70 million on medicaid. >> one of the most important points, pay mitch and paul. when are we going to have the hearings on cost. the nice folks in the health insurance companies whose stocks have doubled in reticent times. i'm a republican, ali. it's okay to make money, but when we talk about cost, we need to talk to those folks and get them on record. >> so, what we have is a process problem to a large degree. we are not getting the democrats liked obama care rk some admit there are problems. some cyst and don't want to admit there are problems. republicans seem to hate it and nobody's working with anybody on this. now, i have tried to get pairs of you from congress and i had one pair today. last week. probably going to have another one tomorrow. at some point rk this would be a better outcome if republicans and democrats worked on it together. >> i got nothing to say this to expect you're absolutely right. i wonder when we're going to put the issue ahead of the the politics because as long as it stays politicized, we should all be fired. >> why is your zpasituation different from senator he willers when it comes to him thinking this bill is not good for the people of nevada and you thinking the house bill was okay for people of nevada? >> i suspect that the deal will have a chance now. i came out initially and said i'm noit putting my state in debt and i'm not kicking expansion people off health care. we went through the process to make sure those things weren't dwoipg to happen expansion population in nevada. he didn't get to, he didn't dwet to see much of it beforehand rk so i'm assuming he's going through the traps now seeing how it actually works. i talked with with secretary price this morning. he said it was talking to the governor. i suspect that if the majority leader who thought they were going to vote this week, that would be optimistic, more time is good. ep when you vpat had the transparency of committee hearings. >> thanks very much for joining me again. zbh thanks. we'll see you. >> the republican congressman from nevada. kristen we clker standing theren that white house briefing room. kristen, that, it's unusual for me to say that was an unusual press briefing because they're all unusual these days. this took it to a new level. at one point, a reporter getting very, very angry about something she said. can i play that? >> absolutely. >> if we make the slightest mistake, the slightest word is off, it is just an absolute tirade from a lot of people in this room. but news outlets get to go on day after day and cite unnamed sources, use stories without sources. have you know, you mentioned the story -- where they had to have reporters resign. >> come on. you're explaining to everybody right here, right now. this administration has done that as well. why in the name of heavens isn't one of us right replaceable and any one of us, if we don't get it right, the audience has the opportunity to turn the channel or not read us. you have been b elected to serve for four years at least. there is no option other than that. we're here tho ask you questions. you're here to provide the answers and what you did is inflammatory to people all over the country who look at us, say see rk once again, the president is right and everybody else is fake media. and everybody in this room is only trying to do their jobs. >> i disagree completely first of all i think if anything has been enflamed it's the dishonesty that often takes place by the news media and i think it's outrageous for you to accuse me of enflaming a story when i was trying to respond to his question. >> pretty unflappable, i would say, because that was a pretty on point akization. >> it was another extraordinary exchange here in the press briefing room and just to give it context, it came after some reporters were fired for repo reporting a story that turned out not to be accurate and it also comes after days press briefings that haven't been on camera. so that has added to the tepgss and obviously the fact that the president refers to the media as fake news and she was reiterating that criticism of the media rk but it unz scores how remarkable this moment is where there are a lot of tensions between this administration and the press. we did discuss important headline of the day. health care and that stern warning to syria overnight. first on health care, you heard her say that the the president remains optimistic that ultimately rk ultimately, they can get something done. he is dwoing going to be meeting with senators in an hour. actually, about a half hour. that briefing lasted for quite some time. then he remains optimistic. she had disputed the notion the cbo report that 22 million would lose their coverage. she made the argument that ultimately, that number could wind up being different then on syria, she pushed back against reports that other agencies like the nsc, dod and state department weren't informed about the thinking here at the white house before sean spice issued the stern warning to syria against launching another chemical weapons attack. when i pressed her on whether this was an admission on whether the first air strike failed rk she pushed back on that as well. saying that the thinking here within the administration is that they need to intervene to try to save lives. her portion of the briefing was shorter. than anticipated of course because energy secretary rick perry was first up at the podium and had a pretty robust exchange. >> talked for a long time. it's energy week. did you know that? >> i did. >> happy energy week to you. when you get a chance, please let them know, my head exploded when she talked about premiums are going to be 30% lower. lower than what they would have been under obama care. there are never going to be lower preem yups. i will have a full head of hair if there are. >> i think speaks to the point there are still a lot of questions here, whether it's health care or syria or russia that are bubbling up. >> when you don't give reporters the opportunity to answer those rk they bubble up. back to garrett. he is i believe is still at the capitol and are those buses, have they moved? >> no, the buses haven't moved rk but they're getting more full. we've had a number of republican senators start to load up here for their plan to head over to the white house. some of the folks on the buses are a lot of the folks who were no votes a few hours ago when we thought there was going to be a vote on this bill in the next few days. susan collins is on the bus. ted cruz and some of the folks who were quiet. lisa murkowski, ben sasse has not made a comment about the bill. all of these folks headed to the white house and you saw when we speak to sean spicer, there's not a lot hof clarity on whether who's going to be leading the conversation, whether this is the president telling these report republican senators or the senators telling the president what they can they think pass but i think we're going to have a wide ranging conversation. supposedly in the next 20 minutes! you must have to reschedule stuff all the time. nothing every goes. >> don't get on a schedule in the first place. >> standing by at capitol hill. anytime you turn on msnbc. back to you shortly. thank you. joining me now is stacy plasket. congresswom congresswoman, welcome to the show. i had other ideas what i was goipg going to talk to you about but ipg we have to stick to this conversation about health care, because i keep hearing from people, i don't know whether it's meaninmeaningful, but they talking about maybe the solution here is to have a bipartisan bill because you know rk republic, republicans are going to have a problem. by the way, the buses are starting to leave now. so the senators are on their way. some are on their way from the capitol to the white house to have some kind of discussions. congresswoman, what do you think of this? >> we've always been concerned, my side of the aisle there has not been discussion with both parties about any of the changes that should have been done to the affordable care act. when the democrats crafted this bill, we had innumerable hearings on it before the bill was drafted and put on the floor. we would love to have those hearings and have open discussions about how to be supportive of americans. i'm incredibly concerned about the bill we saw come out. the cbo scoring of course. the fact this is not just going to affect those in medicaid k who are going to see dramatic cuts, medicare and the elderly, but also, our ma lineals who will receive a cut to their tax credits. they account for that much. who are going to be affected by this bill. so we need to have a discussion and i don't care what happen s n the white house. this should be something all of us are involved here. >> yes, you're right, democrats held a lot of hearings about obama care rk but, but in the end rk we haven't heard from a lot of democrats that there are some problems with it. these rates have gone up at higher rates than we would have thought. there are a lot of people who are having issues with this. what do democrats have to do to get this on this game? >> a lot of the problems we have with obama care is at the fault of the republicans. new administration, some of the additional requests we had after obama care was passed and republicans took over the the house, so the discussion needs to be had. no doubt there are problems and we would love to see more people. the people of the virgin islands were never given part of the exchange. puerto rico. we have had enormous financial issues because we were not included and have arbitrary part of medicaid put on us. so we want to open up the discussion and we'd love to have amendments that make it more inclusive. i hear you. but there are just some parts about it that didn't work as planned and that could have been improved rk so is there space to get to this discussion with democrats not blaming republicans for everything wong? some is really just obama care. >> some of us have never been invited to the b table to have a discussion about the issue. so if we are not part of the discussion, the fact you're blaming one side, we've only been able to talk to ourselves and to the people outside of the the room rk the american people. republicans need to open the door, allow us, our leadership to be part of the discussion and then yes, i think that the leadership of the democratic party is willing to concede where there need to be tweaks and changes and our leader, nancy pelosi, has been open on the floor. >> what do you forsee happening? because on one level, you've got some piece es of bipartisanship on capitol hill. some was after the shooting at the baseball practice. some because there are problem solvers rk caucuses and some who feel the it's a bet r way of doing business. do you feel that partisanship breaking? >> listen, this is my second term. so i don't know historically where we are. this is a very frustrating term for me. i have colleagues i'm really excited about working with. carlos on the the climate solutions group. ted yoho and i are having discussions. >> these are republicans. >> republican colleagues i'm working with and i think all members find colleagues they can work with on the issues that will be supportive of their constituents. could we all get into a room and come to an agreement? when you see what come os in some of these campaigns rk that makes it difficult. when people want to be pulled to the right and left, i'm a member of the new democratic coalition and we love to talk about tax reform, infrastructure and ways to grow our economy and gosh, i'm ready to go that right now, today. >> we'll hold you to that. the democratic representative from the virgin islands at large congressional district. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. senate republicans announced no vote on their health care bill this week. does it mean the bill is never going to see the senate floor? let's take a look at the medical service provider which assists millions of americans every year. boy rk i can feel the twitter exploding before i say the name of it. planned parenthood. go ahead. sent in your tweets. boy, nobody's annuity yneutral parenthood. what do they do? okay. yes. it provides abortions although it's difficult to determine what percentage, the organization says it's 3%, some critics have taken issue with the methodology that lead them to that number. and say that it is possibly higher. we couldn't get, i don't have enough knowledge of it to figure out what percentage of planned parenthood does is is abortion, but on the topic, no federal dollars can be used to pay for abortions at planned parenthood. there are few in limited exceptions courtesy of the hiyd amendment. i can feel it on my phone. just stop for a minute. put your twitter down. it provides health services to 2.4 million people and are you sitting down for this? men. every year. one in five american women has visited a planned parenthood center at least once in her life. for many low income women, it may be their only option to access reproductive care. there are 105 counties in the united states where planned parenthood is the only full service birth controlfinally, i tool for helping saving lives. it provides 290,000 pap tests and 320,000 breast exams every year along with 4.2 million std tests and treatments. not advocate, just trying to tell you it's a complex organization. for more on what it does and how they'll be affected by the senate's bill as it stands now, i'm joined by alexa johnson. thank you for being with us. you are in the middle of everything. >> we are. >> you have just less than an hour ago, lisa, the senator from alaska, has indicated that she wants to work with democrats on this bill. she wants to do stuff and one of the things she is supportive of is planned parenthood. she's having trouble reconciling while party wants to defund it for a year. what happens after this year first of all? >> well as she said, she's in here for adding more health care and planned parenthood provides more health care to women and men as you said. at risk in this bill are medicaid patients being unable to come to our health centers for health care and as you explained rk some of the places in which we provide care is the only provider people can see in a year. so that's what's at stake in this bill and that's why our supporters are fighting back every day and saying do not mess with our health care. >> how big a deal is it if this bill goes through and planned parenthood loses funding for a year. >> as we saw in iowa, 15,000 patients were displaced and we could see that throughout the country, if this health care bill was successful, but we have faith in our supporters who are pushing back and calling their senators over 150,000 calls have been made to congress saying do not block my health care at planned parenthood and as we saw a delay in vote rk it's not necessarily a win, but it shows our supporters are making noise and as senators go back that toir states over recess rk they should be prepared to hear from their constituents. >> what does that say to you with the exception of ten or 12, almost all senators are not only prepared to go along with this, but republican senators, but they're supportive of the idea that it is get iting cut. >> you see mcconnell is delaying the the vote because he doesn't have all the votes he needs. she said she will not spoth a bill. you have u senator collins as well. two women standing up for women's health care. >> isn't that weird to you though? >> it is interesting. this is what happens when you have a panel of men behind closed doors making a health care law that will be devastating to women. ep low income. this will impact even more than just planned parenthood. 13 million women could lose maternity care. >> what is the message you want to give to people? >> we want our supporters to to up and keep the calls coming into senators and their health care should not be blocked. i stand with pp.org and be heard. >> thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> to get another perspective, i want to bring in james capretta, also the project director for obamacare watch -- not here to talk about planned parenthood, talking about the bill in general. what is ai's view on the senate bill as it stands? >> ai doesn't have a view, we're a community of scholars and everybody is allowed to have their own point of view. on senate bill it's a work in progress. obviously they don't have the votes yet and maybe that's a good thing because the bill probably does need to be improved in a number of ways. it doesn't do enough to bring discipline and cost to the system and doesn't do enough to make sure that people in the very low end can get affordable coverage, not just for premiums and into insurance but pay for services directly and it needs to bring much more competition into the marketplace and also needs to -- they don't want to do this, but do things in the medicare program that would bring reform to how services are delivered to patients. there's a lot they need to do to improve health care in the united states. some of is directionally right. i believe the medicaid reforms, a lot of people don't like them. i don't think -- i think putting more discipline into that system is not a bad thing. and directionally, he think it's probably in the right -- >> it's interesting language here, lots of people like reforms, we often think there are government programs especially big ones which can be reformed to be more efficient and do things like this. this administration seems to be confusing reforms and cuts. part of this transfer of responsibility of medicaid expansion payments to the states, it doesn't make entire sense to some people because states can't run deficits and can't take on those responsibilities, give them block grants and they stop going up after a while. people are worried the medicaid will be cut, not reformed. >> you have to look back what happened under the affordable care act. they provided 90% federal money for people that are working -- above the poverty line in many cases. so up to 138% of the federal poverty line -- 100% for a while and 90% federal money paying for their medicaid enrollment. meanwhile, the regular medicaid program which is operated for more than 50 years, pays between 50 and 75% for poor elderly people, disabled, mothers and children. there isn't -- by the way also because the supreme court decision in 2012 and many states people below the poverty line are inelible for medicaid and ineligible for the tax credits. there's a misallocation of sources that has to be addressed one way or the other and instability and unfairness across the country. you can't have a system where some states have massive support towards coverage because they elected it and other states because they are fiscally conservative don't do it. it's not fair to taxpayers. >> all of your points make a lot of sense. do they not call you guys? you're a bunch of scholars? why doesn't the bill -- you made basic comments dealing with people on the low end of the income system. creating competition which we're losing in many places and reforming medicaid. why does this bill not deal with this stuff? >> it deals with some of them but they are living under very difficult restrictions which is they are trying to pass this with just republican votes which i agree from your earlier comments on the show that's a mistake. when they do that, they have to pass it in a budget bill and that limits the amount they can have and provisions they can write in it. there's a reason why the affordable care act was unstable. it was written by one party. the same is going to be true if they try to do this just with republican votes. >> talk to whoever you can talk to to make this a bipartisan bill. jim capretta, i appreciate you taking the time. we'll take a break and then get to casey hunt. the future isn't silver suits and houses on mars, it's right now. think about it. we can push buttons and make cars appear out of thin air. find love anywhere. he's cute. and buy things from, well, everywhere. how? because our phones have evolved. so isn't it time our networks did too? introducing america's largest, most reliable 4g lte combined with the most wifi hotspots. it's a new kind of network. xfinity mobile. let's get right to cakasie hunt -- i don't blame you for confusing it for hill. the senate health care bill delayed and i caught up with mike pence who has been intimately involved in trying to get this bill passed and knows more about it than anyone else in the white house. listen to what he had to say on his way out the door. >> good discussions today, we're going to keep talking. obamacare is collapsing all over this country. and president trump and republicans in congress are absolutely determined to repeal and replace obamacare and give the american people the kind of health care reform they deserve. we're going to keep working it. >> so mike pence saying they are going to work on this as long as it takes to try to get something done. this obviously pretty major setback for the republican bill as it was written and just as we were waiting for talk to each other, ali, senators portman of ohio and caputo of virginia have put out a release, they oppose it in its current form. we're getting a sense of how intense opposition was behind the doors of the republican conference today. >> kasie hunt hill, part of capitol hill. >> i'll take it. >> that wraps it up for me. i'm going to see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern with stephanie ruhle then again at 3:00 p.m. eastern. deadline white house with nicole wallace starts right now. >> it's 4:00 and republican senators have made their way to the white house to talk to the president about the health care bill, that died with a whimper today. mitch mcconnell and colleagues took to the microphones to attack obamacare. >> the schedule may have changed a little bit but one thing that hasn't changed obamacare is collapsing. >> it's a bus, going off a cliff and democrats are saying stay on board, we're trying to rescue the american people. >> but seven years after that law was passed, the republicans failed to garner enough votes to pass an obamacare reform or repeal bill. we have chris jansing from capitol hill, wrangling white house eli stoke hols, i know you were at the white house where the action has moved from capitol hill down there. what do members expect to hear from the president? is he disappointed about a win or willing to be patient and wait for them to get their act together in the fall? >> you know, i think that the

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