A look from people that were in the oval office. Here is department of Homeland Security secretary and republican senators purdue and tom cotton this morning. I dont recall him saying that exact phrase. I think he has begun clear and i would certainly say undoubtedly the president will continue to use strong laj waj. I did not hear derogatory statements, no. The haitian american republican congresswoman who was among the first to condemn President Trump. I cant defend the indefensible. They worked hard. They paid their taxes. When they pledged allegiance they meant every word of it. They did everything they could to take on not just the benefits but the responsibilities of what it meant to be an american citizen. You have to understand im a product of that. I dont know if those comments would have been made if i was in the room. What is the latest with the deal on daca and what are we hearing from the team regarding the president s alleged derogatory remarks . Reporter well, we have two separate tracks here, what he said or did not say. So its hard to evaluate whats going on with that when theres such an obvious disagreement. Its one thing to say not recalling. Its another thing to say another word was not used with headlines over the last couple of days. Its hard to evaluate whats going on when you principals of this levels who are not disagreeing. We have a deadline looming and rolled into that has been this discussion of what to do about immigration and included with that the program to protect certain young immigrants to stay in the United States. Neilson defenned tded his chara. I take a little bit of offense that the president is racist. What he is looking at is the system we have in canada. Im sure we are not suggesting that canada and their leaders are racist. Reporter and so there she is talking about the portion of the discussion behind closed doors on thursday where these leaders from congress and the agencies were talk about how do you decide the allotment from various countries . Under certain programs they set countries for given countries. You have countries being discussed and they are attributed to the president and how it should move going forward. Others are saying that its important to have a representative immigration from different parts of the world. So this is a heated debate with h lots of politics. It makes it hard to know where this is going this week. It certainly is tense and theres a lot on the line, alex. Indeed youre right. Thank you for that. One of the days other big stories, the fallout from the hawaii false alarm. The real panic that enpseudoafter the pals ballis c ballistic ensued. A missile may impact land within minutes. If youre indoors stay indoors. If youre outdoors seek immediate shelter in a building. Remain in doors well away from windows. If youre driving pull to the side of the road and lay on the floor or seek shelter in a building. Well announce when the threat has ended. It is always good to talk to you. I want to get right to you. Can you respond to the concern that the legitimate panic was heightened by the president s rhetoric about north korea . May i add that my family friend, while she read the emergency text that was sent out her interpretation and the way she spoke about it on air with me is that some Ballistic Missile was coming from north korea. It was her interpretation. I can certainly understand why she would have that interpretation. The president has been engaged and often the comments from our president have been very childish as when he was comparing the size to kim jong uns. You then get this alert that says theres something incoming and they need to seek shelter. I would imagine that many people had dpaexactly that same reacti. In one part of an interview he asked if he has spoken with mr. Kim. He said i dont want to comment on it. Im curious why would the president want to be so cagey about this . Wouldnt you and your colleagues and committees know about this . Well, i would hope he would explain whether he had or not. You know, when i first saw this it reminded me of the president s excellents a year or so ago he had met with putin. He likes to overstate things. You know, look at these two stories, one where he is denying the comments that he has a Good Relationship with kim jong un. There is a recording of it. He contests the actual recording that you can listen to and sounds pretty clear to me. Then you also have the president contesting what he said in that with senators. It will say doubt about what took place. When youre caught on it try to escape that it ever happened. So what did you hear though in those comments. Is truth now defined not necessarily by fact but in an interpretation via partisan politics. One democrat claimed he heard the president say the word shole. Others say we didnt hear anything. We dont recall. The georgia senator says, you know, he did not say that now. At first i wonder what changed his recollection in the past few days. It is in a sense that she more tune to when the president is speaking in racist terms. So it is more memorable for him than it may have been for others but nonetheless we are unfortunately where even the same events we have a difficult time perceiving in the same way. Is it about diversity or are we being too naive and thinking it would change the president s thinking . I think if she had been in the room and she had reminded the president she was from haiti he probably would not have talked the same way about haiti. I at least hope that would be the case. There was a a report of a situation and was talking about a nonkorea issue. I think it would help. Yeah. It was an nbc news report. He asked the woman where she was from and she said the state and he said no. Where are you from and she said korea. They are saying daca is probably dead. Can democrats negotiate with trump . How much of a political calculation are you all making by working with President Trump . First of all the president wants to glass over the fact that the president cancelled the daca program. That created this article official crisis. He basically said im calling this program to an end and im putting a shotgun to everybodys head. If you dont give me my wall im going to pull the trigger and send these kids to countries they never lived in or never had a recollection of living in. He created this and he wants to extort to build a wall if they want to protect these kids. I think from the democratic point they control everything. They control the white house, the house, the senate. They can put whatever they want in the budget. If they want our help they will have to protect these kids. We are not going to how them to build a wall nobody thinks makes any sense. Before i let you go, former white house steve bannon is set to interview with you. I want to play what was on msnbc yesterday. Here it is. Steve bannons regret statement did not say he didnt say what we this said. He regretted what he said. I think it will be hard for him to walk back because he has not done that at all. I know that you cant confirm that steve bannon will be speaking with you. How crucial might steve bannon be to your investigation . It all depends on what he has seen and what he has heard. It could be very significant. The one in trump tower but also that he was sure the president had been made aware of this or that the president had met people that came to this meeting. Obviously thats a key issue. There are a number of other issues as well. I can talk at a number that are in the public view already. He met with steve bannon where he just coincidentally met with a russian state banker at the uae while he was there. Well want to find out whether steve bannon was involved in setting up a back channel with the russians and a number of other areas to explore but certainly those comments he made about the meeting as well as comments over Money Laundering are really quite front and center for us. Is it your expectation that he would be testifying in front of muellers committee as well . I would imagine mueller will want to talk to bannon at a stern poi certain point. I think special council will want to talk with them achlts the special council has an advantage that we dont have and that is special council can sequence in what order he wants to do the interviews. Thats what we should be doing in congress. The majority is schedule witnesses without any investigative plan. Its made it very difficult. And you said special council and i said committee. Always good to see you. 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It was a heroing experience for all of those in hawaii. Reporter it is about 7 00 in the morning here. It is around 24 hours after, about 25 hours ago is when this alert went down. It was sent it from that place behind me. Inside is the headquarters, the Civil Defense authority for the state of hawaii. Candidly i was out in the ocean we have been looking into the very system that is in place. Of course this button was pushed inadvertently. It triggered mass hysteria. Take a look at this. Take shelter immediately. Up and down moan seek immedi. This is not a drill. You see people starting to run. The hotel staff and told my parents, seek shelter. You only have 12 minutes. The mistake was part of an Early Warning system put into place amid rising tensions between President Trump and kim jong un. If a Nuclear Missile is launched this is where youll find out . Thats right. These are state warning officers that receive a call on a security line and make a decision to activate the state wide siren system. Where is the phone . Behind us. There was never a signal to sound the alarm. It went out anyway. It was more than enough time to terrify people across the state. The governor took responsibility. Today is the day that most of us will never forget and many in our community was deeply effected by this. Im sorry. A system designed to save lives instead turning them upside down. In addition to tourists here there are real world consequences that have already been put into place. He is suspending all further tests of the Nuclear Missile warning system. They will have two people at all times present and necessary to push that button in order to send out the alert. This is something they have been planning for. It is something they have been doing out of a sense of abundance of caution. They think it is a lowlevel risk. The fact that it happened. It is a big embarassment. And youre one of my coolest friends. Of course you were out there surfing. Reporter not well, not well. At least going for it. Thank you. Joining me now political reporter for real clear politics. Chief washington reporter as well as msnbc contribute to. Kimberly, if mr. Trump hadnt been tweeting about the threat of north korea do you think the reaction might have been different . Did the president create a scenario where the possibility of a threat feels more plausible to our sit scitizens . I think youre about salutely right certainly for the people of ohio and the rest of the country. After a series of tweets i was in new york city and overheard someone say i might as well tord pasta and eat carbs because we are all going to die of a Nuclear Attack. We have the president engaging in name calling with a leader of a country who is building a Nuclear Arsenal and saying the purpose is to strike the United States. So for Something Like this to happen you can obviously understand why the people of hawaii were terrified yesterday. Any chance the president s cabinet members are trying to assert more pressure . At least wh i think they have tried and nothing has worked. The president has tried to make this argument that all of his predecessors have tried to deal with the issue to no avail. He thinks his strategy will be effective. It hasnt yet. These threats still exist. People are increasing their worries worries as kimberly just laid out. I dont anticipate he will step back from this strategy. We have seen when the white house offered more tempered responses and argued for the more diplomatic route only for the president to go ahead and use more aggressive rhetoric that raises alarm wells. Lets talk about the wall street journals revenues. Here is what the president tweeted. The wall street journal stated falsely that i have a Good Relationship with kim jong un. Both sides have shared that particular portion of the interview which was recorded. For all of our viewers once again here it is. I probably have a very Good Relationship with kim jong un of north korea. Well let viewer hear what they did or did not hear. Kimberly, one of the reporters said ultimately it doesnt matter. It doesnt change the overall point of what he was trying to make. Do you agree . I think thats absolutely right. Say the president said id with aposttrophy d it is a country that has repeatedly threatened a Nuclear Attack against the United States. Its a country kim jong un is a leader donald trump has been trading insults since the president buwas inaugurated. So the idea they could chitchat doesnt make a lot of sense. Even though we have tillerson and mattis that have a diplomatic collusion it hasnt worked in part because of the president s own words. The idea is nonsensical even if you take the president at his word that he said id. Dont they have a 2k3w5Good Relationship . This came out a couple of days ago. Im surprised why they are pushing back at this point particularly with all of the heightened concern. I noted later in that interview he said i have Good Relationships with these folks. So kind of putting it in present tense here. The president likes to kind of argue back and forth with the media. This also came after a week of questions about the stability of the white house and during that week not only the secretary of state but also the u. N. Ambassador all had to go out on tv and say that things were stable in the white house when they would rather be talking about other issues. Thank you so much. Coming up, the s word. Well ask al sharpton how he thinks President Trump should address Race Relations in this country. It takes a lot of work but i really love it. Im on the move all day long. And sometimes, i dont eat the way i should. So, i drink boost to get the nutrition im missing. 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