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Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live Decision 2020 20200702

Deaths of u. S. Troops in afghanistan. The u. S. Saw a Record Number of coronavirus cases in a single day, infections are spiking in 40 out of 50 states. Trumps response. Well, this morning he gloated that the country is opening up faster than anybody thought. More on that coming up. And i will be joined by stacy abrams to talk about the president s failed responses and the fight for Voting Rights in georgia and beyond. We begin tonight with a new report in the washington post, that the white house is not planning an Immediate Response to intelligence reports of russian bounties because donald trump does not believe that the reports are true or actionable. But after a briefing delivered by the cia director to the gang of eight in congress today, senator Chuck Schumer begged to differ. Visually angry visually angry schumer called on the president to get tougher with russian leader Vladimir Putin. Im not going to say anything about the briefing but i believe that the president is not close to tough enough on Vladimir Putin. You dont think its a hoax based on the briefing . Trump has repeatedly dismissed reports on the russian bount scheme as a hoax. Despite mounting evidence that appears to support the credibility of the intelligence. The New York Times is now reporting on a key middle man to russias operation, who for years handed out money to reward taliban linked fighters for targeting american troops. But after security agencies carried out sweeping raids, they discovered he sneaked out of afghanistan and probably back in russia. I am joined by corey booker and i have to get your response to the ad, this Lincoln Project ad is epic, senator. And i want to let you listen to a bit of it, here it is. [ speaking Foreign Language ] its pretty harsh, that is probably the roughest ad against trump so far. It does beg the question, theres something very odd about Donald Trumps relationship to russia to say the least, we know they helped him get elected president , the Mueller Report showed that, the idea that he has not reacted to the news that russia was allegedly paying bounties for the troops, what do you make of the relationships between russia and donald trump . Clearly so many examples in his short time in office where republicans and democrats have expressed concern about his relationship with putin and we know the International Community and peers of mine around the European Union feel the same way. I mean, we had a real ansanctio and consequences for what they have done in crimea and donald trump is saying we should bring them back in the g7, for the president to have had multiple contacts since he and his team were aware of these bounties for him to not say anything to putin or discuss their election, ongoing election interference attempts in the United States of america. For him to continue to be silent and yet to try to reward putin and reward russia is absolutely unacceptable. And joy, the thing that really yeah. I mean, you know, you get to know a lot of soldiers when you are a United States senator and you tell them all the time, we have got your back. We support you and to have a president that seemingly doesnt have their back when they are being threatened, its a unifying thing to make sure that we are all standing strong in defense of our soldiers and it was a time that the president failed them and therefore failed all of us. Right, and we know, my brother went to fort dix in your state of new jersey, its an enraging story and everything about it is enraging and theres a part of the story that apparently the person that was trafficking the money to militants to kill the troops was taking american money as a contractor to build roads, do we need to rethink our entire strategy on afghanistan as well. It doesnt seem that we are at least in the administration doing a good job of looking where our money is going. This person may have been taking u. S. Contractor money. You use an important word, strategy. The problem is, this president has shown no strategy in afghanistan and no strategy with iran, he has left those regions more unstable than he did when he came in. We are now seeing a situation where russian influence, in iran, if n syria and afghanista has grown, and the respect among our allies has diminished. What do the allies say when they see us not having our soldiers backs . Go ahead. Do you, if this kind of a headline had existed during president barack obamases term, do you think that republicans would have called on him to resign. And is it is something that should cause the current commander and chief to do so . I mean, you could go from this president s doing Foreign Policy by tweet, putting the soldiers at risk in this case and a hundred others in between of his failed Foreign Policy efforts that republicans would have called for obamas resignation, they clearly have a double standard when it came to obama, and it comes to the defense that they are giving of Donald Trumps unacceptable actions on the world stage. Senator corey booker, thank you so much, really appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. And have a good fourth of july weekend. Meanwhile, when it comes to the intelligence on russia, trumps refusal to hold the kremlin accountable is consistent with his frequent pandering to Vladimir Putin. The socalled election in russia should prove putins autocratic habits. He has been cleared to serve as president until 2026. Much about the vote was irregular even for a russian election. Im joined by the former National Security adviser under obama. I have to go back to the allegation or claim by donald trump that he was not told by his National Security team. About these bounties that started last year. Is it credible to you . No, its not credible at all, joy. First of all, the report suggests specific dates that this information was in the president ial daily briefing. So, the absolute best thing that donald trump could say, he got briefing and he failed to read it and that nobody on his team thought that they should take it to him. If thats actually what happened, thats such a massive break down in how the National Security apparatus is supposed to work, theres no higher cause than protecting our troops who are in harms way, if you have explosive information like this, that russia is paying bounties. You have specific corroborate rating evidence, that we know middle man and we can track money flows, we have interrogation reports. That is widely disseminated reports, and its not credible that it was not in at least a written briefing to trump, if he refuses to read the briefings why is he command er and chief of the military. Its a good question, lets listen to speaker nancy pelosi, she took part in the gang of eight briefing and here is what she said afterwards. At the same time as the white house was aware of this threat to the security of our men and women in uniform. The president was still flirting with the idea of having russia be part of the g8, in total opposition to the wishes of the other members of the g8, why were they not raising this to a level to say to the president , this is not a good time for you to be saying that russia should be part of the g8 . You know, and it strikes me that, when president obama learned that russia was attacking our election, he took very specific actions. They were actions to help donald trump, they were sanctions that put on two intelligence agencies and three company cans. 35 russian operatives were expelled. They shut down two russia owned facilities. And i recall, it was michael flynn, Donald Trumps incoming National Security advise, who what he got in trouble for was lying saying to russia dont worry about it. We will undo it. I asked senator booker about it as well, theres something odd for Donald Trumps affinity for russia and his refusal to take action. We know he has spoken to putin half a dozen times this year, and theres no evidence that he has raised one negative word about these bounties for our troops. Something is odd about it. Can you make anything of it . What is behind it in your view . Well, joy, sometimes what is staring you right in the face is the most obvious answer, which is from the beginning, this president has been defferential to Vladimir Putin and he is insisting that america does not pay attention. We have donald trump spending years to try to redirect attention to other things. We see donald trump undertake a Foreign Policy that has a Common Thread of what ever he does, seems to be what is in putins best interest, whether its inviting him back in the g7 or the withdraw of troops in germany, which putin very much wants. Whether its the general unraveling of the alliances, which is a long standing russian goal. And joy, the really alarming thing that is staring us in the face here is we have an election in a few months and why would russia not, once again try to interfere. They can do so with the massive Information Campaign that we have seen them undertake, and do so by trying to hack the election infrastructure that we have seen in the past that they might want to do. So, perhaps what donald trump does not want to do is pick a fight with somebody who he thinks is on his side, in the coming election. And that, i think, is deeply troubling reality that we have to live with. You know, there was, i still recall, during the bush administration, Condoleezza Rice giving the briefing to congress in which they had to read from the president ial daily brief. Bin laden, determined to attack inside the United States. We now as you mention know, that russia is still determined to attack our election and nothing is being done. Its pretty shocking. Ben rhodes thank you for being here. And meanwhile, stacy abrams coming up is going to join me and im going to ask her about trumps white Grievance Campaign and his fascination with statues and Voting Rights and Police Violence and more. And the trouble with mr. Kushner, trump regrets the fact that when he needed political and campaign advice, he went to jared. You will see by june, a lot of people will be back to normal and the hope is by july, the country is really rocking again. Yeah, not rocking, we have more to get to, stay with us. 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I dont think we have on to mandate something in georgia to get something right. We may disagree whether the government needs to mandate it or whether we can trust our people to do the right thing. I do, im a trusting person. Welcome back, that is georgia, governor ryan kemp tod today. Kemp is on a statewide tour to promote Wearing Masks. Georgia has more than 27,000 ca 87,000 cases of the virus. And on wednesday, the state set a new daily record of new confirmed cases and surpassed the record at the with more than 3400, setting a single day record for the fifth time in a week. The governor said he does not want to politicize wearing a mask like his boss does. Today, Steve Mnuchin was asked about that. We are in the middle of the pandemic, is the president more focused on preserving the confederacy than getting the pandemic on under control. The president is concerned about everything, the issue on statues is a complicated issue. Trump has repeatedly argued that those seeking to remove statues and monuments of slave holders just dont understand their history. In a new book, our time is now, stacy abrams talks about a element of history that donald trump does not seem to understand. The Founding Fathers gave a nod to universal equality but they abandoned the aspiration by penning the organizing documents. Let me be clear, the disenfranchisement is a feature of our law making not an oversight. Stacey abrams is here with me now, its great to talk lets circle back and talk about your governor, brian kemp, the governor of georgia, who is not going to mandate Wearing Masks despite an incredible spike in cases there. He is going to encourage it like a suggestion. So the mayor of savannah is requiring it. Mayor johnson said is, frankly i dont believe we have any other choice. Can you explain the disconnect, how a mayor is trying to protect the city and the governor is saying, its just an option . Because, van johnson is a leader and brian kemp is not. This is the person who is one of the last governors to close the state despite a disproportionate share of the Covid Infection occurring in georgia at the time we had a city in albany, the city of albany was the fourth highest rate of infection in the world. And he stumbles in to the decision to close the state. He was one of the first to reopen the state, diss fight every metric saying do not do so. And his response has been to not lead but to suggest. We dont elect suggesters. We elect leaders. And thats why we are proud to have mayor van johnson, and we are unfortunately being guided along, haphazardly by a governor who was failed in his attempt to be a leader and i hope he will learn from Governor Abbott in texas, that learned that mandating to save lives is why we have people in charge. You know, theres a, theres a twopart part of this. Theres the part in which the governors want to genuflect to donald trump and be obedient to him and then theres the real experience. Especially in Southern States that have large shares of black and brown people, in states like georgia, where the disproportionate rate of death is so high for black people and poor people and brown people. Do you feel that maybe theres an indifference, maybe, coming from some of the leaders because donald trump is certainly important to them. And him liking them and supporting them is important to them. But this disproportionate rate of death among black and brown folks does not seem to move them. Its not just a suggestive indifference, its a deliberate and provocative difference, the southern Economic Advancement project is something i formed. And we last week announced south strong. Org, which is our attempt to guide the south towards a Recovery Plan that actually cares about the people here. And we specifically look at the racial inequity of covid19. Its contraction rate, its death rate. The economic effect that it has and southern governors with limited exceptions of Governor Cooper in North Carolina and governor edwards in louisiana have done little to actually address the fact that 59 of the population of the south is african, im sorry, 59 of africanamericans live in the south. We are disproportionately affected by covid19 and they have done absolutely nothing to tackle the challenges that is faced. The challenge it creates for our livelihoods and our lives. And this is not an accident. This is part of a pattern of behavior that can be traced to Voter Suppression, traced to economic oh, presentatippressioy respond to the challenge when the challenge is for those that are black or brown. One of the things that we learn is that you lived in mississippi as on young person and you know that state as well. So, theres this thing happening in the south, where you know, first South Carolina did it and you know, a lot of it is driven by corporations saying hey get the flags down or you will lose business. So lets just be real about why the governors are doing what they are doing. Now, you are seeing in mississippi the flag taken down, you know, out of, there out of their state flag. But at the same time, that governor turns around and then signs, and then vetoes bills that would have allowed poor people, white and black, to be saved from having their water cut off, when you have on wash your hands in a covid outbreak. What do you make of the sort of, you know, atmosphere, that the south is changing but the mechanics showing its in a lot of ways not . Its why i was so eager to be the governor of georgia. State power, the leadership of the states is what directing so much of our lives. Its why while its critical that we elect joe biden as the next president and we take the senate from democrats, we cannot forget the governors and state legislatures battles. We know the reason that the state legislatu

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