we'll have a live report with what we know right now. meanwhile, in washington, vice president pence will hold a closed-door meeting of the white house coronavirus task force in the next hour, as the president brushes off the rising death toll by telling axios -- it is what it is. we'll hear from the president later this afternoon when he holds a briefing in the 5:00 hour. let us begin with the breaking news. isaias is charging up the atlantic coast. millions are in its path. in new jersey and in new york, the storm is expected to bring t t rains political, what do we know? >> it was a hurricane in north carolina, but they were built for that. we weren't built for a tropical storm in the mid-atlantic. it's taking a toll on its trees and power outages. new jersey is reporting with over 1 million people without power. pennsylvania has 373,000. virginia 259,000, north carolina 176,000, and new york is now up to 172,000 without people. you add all of those up we have nearly 2 million people who don't have power because of this storm. the pictures are looking at, the tornado has struck at 1:00 in the morning in birdie county in windsor, north carolina. we know there's one fatality, there's a couple people missing. typically you get weak tornadoes with these systems, but these were strong tornadoes in the middle of the night. in the middle of a landfalling hurricane. so let me get to the map. we still have another six hour to go before it races up into canada. the storm itself just past philadelphia, due west of new york city, and as we go throughout this evening, it will race all the way up through vermont and be got. 65-mile-an-hour maximum sustained winds, gusting up to 80. we've had 16 tornadoes reported, and the watch will continue through 9:00 p.m. down through hartford and providence. again, the worst of the storm is over the top of new york city. katy last hour we had a 70-mile-per-hour wind gust at jfk. currently at 62 miles per hour. >> you look out the window and you can see those winds. joining me from new york city's south seaport is gabe gutierrez. we have learned that a hurricanes does not have to hit the city in order to cause massive damage. what are they doing to to prepare for what is down upon us? >> reporter: a major concern right here in manhattan is power outages. since this storm tracked a bit to the west. it's not even raining at this point. it was a few minutes ago. you can see the choppy east river behind me. yes, these winds are expected to pick up. you were croovering superstorm sandy. this is not expected to be nearly as bad as sandy. there are some parts of this region that frankly aren't used to this. look at lower manhattan, what the city is doing. mayor de blasio is saying the city is not taking any chances. this is called a tiger dam. it runs about a mile, essential cutting off part of lower manhattan from any of the storm surge that could come here. major concern right now is what happens in the next several hours, downed trees in this area, could cause massive power outages in such a densely populated area concern for the jersey shore, and this comes after the damage that bill karins was mentioning. horrible damage in north carolina, katy. >> it ravaged the jersey coast, the rockaways in new york city and also did damage to a case where gabe is standing, flooding subway station cutting off power to half manhattan. gabe guidier, thank you very much. now to the breaking news out of lebanon. a series of explosions in downtown beirut were caught on camera by multiple witnesses from multiple angles, one of blast sent a massive mushroom cloud over the city. is the damage and the injuries appear to be extensive. right now there's a call for blood donations across the country. nbc news they've global correspondent bill knenee knee s following the development. >> reporter: the cause of the explosions is unclear, but their power and their effect certainly is clear. the videos coming out on social media and from news agencies really extraordinary. what we do know is that the explosions -- and i say plural -- happened after 6:00 in the port area of beirut. security sources there are now suggesting that it might have been caused by chemicals or even explosives or munitions being stored in the port area, and people are saying it was possibly the heat and the humidity of beirut that could have set off these extraordinary images. the as you can see probably from these videos, there is an initial explosion with gray smoke. then underneath the gray smoke, you see flashes, you see fires, and then there is that second massive explosion with what looks like a mushroom cloud. instead the mayor of beirut said it looked like hiroshima. it's possible that the mushroom cloud was caused by seawater that was simply sucked up into the air by the power of the explosion or explosions. the latest figures we are getting is at least ten dead, and dozens injured. there is some distressing video coming out on social media showing bodies strewn all over the place. the united states has already offered its support. this explosion or explosions was heard as far away as cyprus, a greek island in the mediterranean, and some of the smoke was visual from the syrian capital of damascus. so millions of people, katy will have seen, and many will have felt they explosions. katy? >> i don't say this lightly and don't use it as a cliche, the explosion is jaw-dropping to see that mushroom cloud. you can almost feel is yourself when you're watching that explosion. thank you for looping us in with all that we know right now as of is today, the coronavirus has killed more than 150,000 americans, while florida, texas and california, along with arizona are seeing their case counseled and hospitalization rate potentially begin to decline, alabama and new jersey are emerging as new hot spots. and the rolling average of national deaths is up significantly from this time last month, but the president appeared to shrug all of that off. in an interview with jonathan swann of axios. >> thousands of americans are dying a day. >> they are dying, that's true. it is what it is, but that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. it's under control as much as you can control it. >> let's bring in nbc news digital senior white house reporter shannon pettypiece. it is what it is, is that what the white house wants to standby. >> >> reporter: the message the white house has been trying to get out, to racing alarms bells to take this seriously, wear a mask, to avoid krouse, to social distance, give mayors and governors to put mask mandates. that's going on behind the scenes. the real key strategy is to try to message its way out of the coronavirus by creating some urgency for people to put on masks and follow these recommendations they've had out there no months. the president's regarding downplay severalal the severity and putting himself on the defense rather than on the oat offense when it comes to the administration's response. they want the president to be talking about the ppe form are, the ventilators, but not at the extent of downplaying the seriousness. that's what creates concern once again among the president's advisers, among his campaign that has repeatedly been urging him to convey a more serious message about this. >> it also shows a lack of empathy when you say it is what it is. thank you so much, shannon pettypiece. white house negotiators are on back a capitol hill for another round of aid talks. right now chief of staff mark meadows, and treasury steve mnuchin is wrapping up a meeting. at 3:00 p.m. they will sit down with pelosi and schumer, but it's unclear after what mitch mcconnell said. >> the american people fighting all these ballotses and more, what do the speaker of the house and the democratic leader do with yet another day of deliberations? the democrats are blocking it all. it's like they expect applause for merely keeping a civil tone with the president's team, never mind they're still obstructing any action for our country. >> after a week of stalled talks, because republicans could not articulate a also position on hardly anything, i believe we're making progress. many. >> with me now, from capitol hill is jake sherman, a senior writer for politico, and as msnbc contributor. so, jake, what's happening? >> there's never, in my time up here, katy, or very rarely, the disconnect that we see between the reality on the ground, 150,000 people dead, people unemployed, unemployment has run out, and the pace of the negotiation on capitol hill. it's really jaw dropping that we have after more than a week they have not settled on one issue. they have not been able to close owl one issue. for example, they didn't even discuss unemployment insurance, which is kind of the centerpiece here of these negotiations. the i don't anticipate any resolution of these talks, or maybe even next week, two, three weeks, and took place after benefits have expired. there's no deal to be had. the one person on the sidelines right now is mitch mcconnell, who has not been part of these negotiations. i think he'll make an appian, baas it's soon that the democrats have not been able to come to a compromise with the white house, and mash meadows is threatening the white house may take action on its own. we don't know what action that is, and perhaps we'll find out later today. the white house doesn't have the power of the purse. they cannot appropriate money. >> they can no the. >> it's unclear, but it would be a concession, katy, that the white house does not have any answers here, and the white house does not have the ability to get a deal together. again, the president, who for many years held himself out as the king of the dials, has not been any close to they negotiations. in a time of crisis, i have never seen a president not reach out to the congress. that's a relatively stunning indictment of this president, who has no relationship with the top legislator of the united states. le. >> republicans can't get on the same page. they're angry that democrats are working with the white house, but the president is not involved. what's going to happen in the senate? is this just not going to happen before the august break? >> reporter: the base case is there needs to be some legislation. we're anticipating some of the vulnerable republicans, who are seeing their poll numbers in really bad shape, are going to go to mitch mcconnell and donald trump and say you need to cut a deal on unemployment insurance. we can't survive without this policy. i think a lot of people are asking those questions in the hallways today. will there be a deal because you need it for your vulnerable members? we'll see it explode over the next coming weeks, they vulnerable republicans need a compromise to go home to talk with their constituents about. >> jake sherman on capitol hill, thank you for that. later we'll have the california's 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wednesday teachers began to reopen campus. by thursday, 260 employees were barred from entering that are schools, either because they tested positive for the virus or were exposed to somebody who had. in greenfield, indiana, a junior high school student tested poach for the first day in class. they caught it earlier, but the student had already attended a partial day, possibly exposing students and teachers. a superintendent in arizona likened his decision of reopening schools feeling like there's a gun to his head. quote -- i always lost one teacher to this virus, do i risk opening up? clenching face a unique challenge as well. how do you house and educate students? coring to the niche tiff, most colleges and universities are planning for a hybrid of onloon and in-person learning. just 75 schools have committed fully to in-person learning. mitch daniels is the current president of purdue university. he's advocating for the reopening and said it would be a breach of duty not to. thank you so much for coming on. i visited your university a couple years ago. i had a lovely time there. thank you for hosting me. i wanted to ask you about your opinion of where things stand right now. i know you said it would be a breach of duty not to reopen schools a few weeks ago when you wrote an op-ed. where do you stand today. >> in exactly the same place. honest people can differ, and do, and the situation for different schools will differ likewise. we have never made any recommendation or advocated anything for anyone but purdue university, but for us, we believe in full view that there's no certainty. we cannot guarantee success, but we do believe it's the right thing to do to try, and not to tell 35,000 students, sorry about your luck, you put your lives on hold, or interrupt or on slow down your educational careers, because we can't figure out how to protect, really, others. i'm sure you know, while the virus is very, very dangerous to older people and ill people at older ages poses essential zero lethal risk to the young people coming here. our job, and we have spent tens of millions and worked all summer to protect staff and faculty, and of course those students who may have a co-morbidity. we gave every student the option to study offcampus. 88% chose to come to campus, which tells you they want this experience and believe it's important to their future. we're going to do our very best to make that possible. we will keep safety first. if it's not working at some point, reluctantly we'll go back to where we were last spring. we'll give it what they used to call the old college try. you also can't guarantee your staffe erers won't have a negative reaction if they contract the disease. if you say to them, you know, we had to give it the old college try? sorry you're really sick? or sorry you might have died? >> folks in your profession could do us all a better service if you would differentiate the severity of case. a case is not a case is not a case. cases in nursing homes are deadly serious. cases in es college campuses have an infinitesimal it chance of leading to mortality. they have a greater danger driving to campus than they will here? >> i'm just looking at the national statistics of various risks. you know, the risks, it's a tragedy that people like me live with that we lose students on a campus this size every single year. every one is a heartbreak, but statistically there are ten other risks that are more serious to students than this virus has been. the real test, and the thing we have worked so hard on is to separate staff and faculty from contact with students, perhaps as many as half our staff won't be on campus. our faculty had the choice to choose how to teach, and again, that's the assignment, to protect the vulnerable, but the cost we would impose on the lives and the futures of our students if we just threw up our hands and said we're not even going to try we believe would not be responsible. i know it's a difficult position. i know people in your position are taking it very seriously. i know there's a different rate for negative effects in the younger, but the rate is not zero for leality, but it's not zero for potential serious effects, long-term damage, and it's not just the younger students at your school. it's also the surrounding areas. if there's an outbreak among students, there's no reason to believe it's going to remain among the younger population and not be spread for people who work at the grocery stores in your community, or people who work at the coffee shops, the people who are surrounding and supporting the campus. >> it's an important note, but please note this, we are at least more worried about the surrounding community infecting the campus as vice versa. we've been in a vulnerable position, toe take enormous precautions, which i won't detail here, but we have done everything we can physically in terms of policy and the way we teach, feed and house people. it's a very important question, however, that when our students, many of them live off campus, we can't control those environments. they'll live in areas that won't be as serious as we have been. you're quite right that the interaction with the community causing a problem is very rail. if we shut down this university, our local community is hurt very seriously. it depends, as do communities all -- college communities all over the country, very much on the -- on the population and the activity on the campus, so simply closing down would inflict great harm on them, which some folks have overlooked. >> the economic aspect should not be overlooked. what is the threshold for pulling the plug and sending kids home. >> we wouldn't know which hard number to pick, but i can certainly tell you some of the criteria we will look at. one is if our capacity for isolate and quarantines those inconnected oar those who might have been infected. if that would be one yellow light for sure. >> likewise if there are hospitalizations and some stretch of the local medical facilities, that would be another one. we'll watch these things. we freely admit we cannot guarantee success, and there could come a point where we do exactly what we did in the spring, but i can tell you our students hope -- believe that the the last thing they would like been to see, and we're going to try to deliver for them. >> mitch daniels, thank you so much for coming on and walking us through your thinking. we appreciate all your time, sir. >> thank you. california now leads the country in the most covid cases. next up we'll head to california's bay area, a hot spot within a hot spot. the director of the nih will be here to lay out its new clinical trial, a treatment being tested on people currently hospitalized. tested on people currently hospitalized wayfair has everything outdoor from grills to play sets and more one of a kind finds. it all ships free. and with new deals every day you can explore endless options at every 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tight restrictions on residents earlier than most of the united states no cases are climbing just as they are across california. local leaders are -- joining mess from oakland, california, is jake ward. jake, what is on the table. >> reporter: you know, katy, it is a disappointing trend on march 16th, about of anyone else was thinking about it, the bay area locked people down and sent everyone home. now we're in a post-memorial day rise, seeing numbers go up to over 870 cases just a few days ago. this peak has state and local officials thinking how we are running our efforts here. of course, when you look at the numbers, it's important to understand a huge percentage of the cases, especially in counties like alameda, where i am now, full of the poorest and most disadvantaged people. latinos make up about half of the new cases, even though that community only makes up about 22% of the county. we are seeing again this virus preying on the people who are either complacent or desperate for work. it's just so hard to create a unified front against the coronavirus. >> jake ward in oakland, california, thank you very much. we have potential good news this asp. the national institute of health is moving forward with promising clinical trials for a new treatment. it hopes to use antibodies taken from people who recovered from the virus to treat people currently suffering from it. joining me now is dr. francis collins, director the national institutes of health. dr. collins -- director collins, thank you very much. >> your own immune system is an amazing bio-factory, and it's able to invading bodies and it can create antibody. a mon a monoclonal is now turned into a purified material that can be delivered to people early in the course of the disease to see if we can keep them from getting very sick. we're announcing today the launch of two trials, one for outpatients, and one for inpatients, people who have been diagnosed with covid-19, but early in the course to see if infusing this very active ape body that goes right to the hard of the virus to basically be neutralized could give them a better outcome. we need more treatments like that. just getting started, but it's another reason ton optimistic we are on the right path. >> so you're potentially doing this with people in the early stages of this disease, not people battling for their lives? >> we think the most significant hope for the monoclonal antibodies are for early on. we do have other treatments for more severe cases. we brought together a partnership called active, and people have been working around the clock since the middle of april to put this protocol together, figure out what would be the most powerful therapeu c therapeutics. this is the first one out of the gate, and we're excited to say this starting today 69. >> how long are the trials? >> they're both being run by large networks across the country. in fact one of them will also enroll some people outside the u.s. we need to enroll altogether about 2,000 patients, one in the outpatient, one in the inpatient. you need to have enough people to really tell -- this would be a placebo-controlled trial, where half gets the placebo, and half will get the antibody. >> there has been some concern about a veeck if a vaccine is able to be -- moving to market a little too quickly because of political reasons. maybe ahead of the election. can you put anyone's minds at ease? >> my only kernel is as a figures, is how we go as quickly as possible to develop treatments for people who are sick and dies at a time of terrible stress in our world and country. there's nothing political. we're just trying to find the answers as fast as we can. >> dr. collins, the president sat down with axios. on the death count he says it is what it is, we're doing the best we can, we're doing everything we can. are we doing everything we can to mitigate the deaths in this country? >> i can only talk about my part of it. as the process has played out for developing vaccines and therapeutics, we are doing everything we can, bringing together all the bright minds, people working 24/7 to try to make this successful and to save those lives. >> are we testing enough? getting the results back fast enough? >> it's clear that while we have greatly increased the number of tests we've been able to do, now something like 60 million, we have a current problem in terms of the turnaround time. just last friday we announced again the develop and implement aof seven new kinds of ways to do testing that could be much more rapid, in a program cause rad-x. we're pulling out every stop we can. dr. collins, thank you so much for joining the. our fingers are crossed for this antibody treatment. we'll be watching the clinical trials. come back when you have some results. okay. i would love to. meanwhile, wear that mask when you go outside. >> you bet. thank you very much. five states are holding primary elections today. we'll take a look at 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mail there. how is it going? >> exactly. just about 17% of maricopa county voters are actually expected to show up in person. that's because in 201883% of voters voted via mail. there's a long track record here. here in maricopa county it goes back to 1986. the governor this summer said he's produce of the way the elections are run here. i want you to listen to adrian fontez here on the process in the county. >> in arizona we've ballot by mail since 1996. we've had a few decades to work on this. we used to send a postcard, and we would send a ballot. now we have a permanent mail-in ballots. i think the most important thing i would tell everybody. states and counties have been doing this for a long time, have been doing it a long time. so folks need to have patients with their local election administrators. they had no to understand that some of this processing takes a lot of time. you want to get it right. you don't want to get it done fast. that's the most important thing to tell folks in this country. >> reporter fontes emphasizes that they are ready here. they have early polling location that open up four weeks before polls open. early ballots go out four weeks before election day. if you go back to 2018, there's a senate race. the race was not really known until three days after, because there was that logjam of countic. fontes says they will start counting early. >> we may have to take a deep breath and wait it owl come november. let's go to dasha. in michigan, this is the first time you can vote by mail for any reason. you don't need an excuse. how is it going out there? >> hey, katy, i've been at this east grand rapids polling site all day. we have not seen a lot of traffic here. this is all about mailing voting this time around. elected officials tell me this really is a dry run for november. they are dealing with now factors here. there's a no-excuse absentee voting here. on top of that the secretary of state took the unprecedented step of issuing absentee ballot applications -- not ballots, but applications to every voter in the state. that did stir controversy and got criticism from president trump as well, but it meant voters had one less step they needed to take if they wanted to vote by mail. all of that plus in pandemic as resulted in a massive surge in absentee ballots. -- in the 2016 presidential race, they issued about 70,000 absentee ballots. in this august primary, they have issued more than 127,000. that is a huge jump. election officials tell me that forecasts a pretty astronomical number they could see here come november. in michigan, unlike in arizona, election workers can't begin to count up 7:00 a.m. on election day, which means we could by waiting a while to get results from michigan. take a willen to what you county clerk told me about that. >> continuing the surge in absentee ballots now for an august primary, what does it say for november? >> we expect is the influx of absentee voting to continue. you know, that's a result of no-reason absentee voting, which is new here in michigan, but especially with the pandemic going on. what that means is that it is going to take longer on election night to tabulate and report the results. this is going to take a while, but we're not going to sacrifice security for speed. >> reporter: katy, she also told me she's hoping to get more funding to beef up their operations to get more scanners and more election workers but still she emphasized we may need a little bit of patience. katy? >> thank you very much. and the president keeps saying he wants to ban tiktok. why? so what exactly is behind president trump's threat to ban the video app tiktok. critics including lawmakers have claimed that tiktok is a fashional security threat because the parent company bytedance is based in china and required to turn over user data to beijing, no definitive proof yet of a threat to thagsal security so why is the president pushing this issue now? with me now is scott galloway. scott, always great to have you. thanks for being here. help make sense of this, why does the president suddenly not like tiktok? >> well, that's a tall order. i think this is a governance -- it reminds me of my school has this auction trying to raise money to be principal for the day, the president deciding he wants to be a ceo with bigger assets. highly unusual for a president to step in and say a firm should be sold. on top of it they're going to demand some sort of -- so it's -- the script is that any chinese company has a direct pipeline of data into the government. with this scrutiny can use weaponize that data. there's enormous controversy around companies that go into china, our tech companies. but, again, this seems like terrible execution around what has become just a series of kind of unpredictable steps. i don't think anyone could have imagined this scenario. >> there were lawmakers who were saying they didn't like it. i don't have it on my phone for a reason. did this come out of nowhere? did it get to the president's desk through a pipeline or just something he used because he needed a distraction? >> possibly. so, the president has made clear that he thinks tiktok is a security threat and he's threatening to ban it by september 15th. to suggest it should be sold to an american company and to be on the phone with that company's ceo that's highly unusual. there are probably other ways around it, okay the company could go public on a u.s. exchange, u.s. governance, have security measures put in place such as no data flowed back to china. think, you can see where this might play out. indonesia, second biggest market by users, turned around to facebook saying, we're going to ban you or you have to sell to an indonesian company. it looks like the president has decided that microsoft should acquire tiktok. >> yeah, it's weird. also weird that he's saying now he's created so much controversy around banning it that they're making all sort of money and 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