This hour with the debate over when to reopen the country. Some states have decided to lift lockdown measures as the number of coronavirus cases continue to mount. In georgia, the governor allowed residents to go to restaurants, gyms and bowling alleys. Sam brock is in georgia this afternoon. What has been the reaction on the ground from residents about reopening . Reporter so i think you can pretty much slice it up this way, alicia, that those who are coming out right now are comfortable with the risk if theres enough precautions that are being taken. Those that are not comfortable are just staying at home or they are protesting the governor. Thats what we saw on friday in the decision to open up things like spas and nail salons and barber shops and gyms. Ive spoken to many Business Owners across all of those businesses. If you look at a Big Shopping Center like this, im in marietta, georgia, right now. Youll find some places that are open and some that are not. When it comes to what sort of precautions theyre taking, this particular spa did choose to open up when they were given the opportunity. Youll see the signs, take a mask and sanitize your hands, social distance sixfoot rule in effect. There is no guidance in the state right now that requires masks for patrons, only for some employees. But here they are requiring it. Another, if i walk inside youll see this plastic wrapping around the ipad so that people around touching it repeatedly over and over and theyre only using apple pay. If you move into the reception area, they dont let people just sit there. Theyre moving them in and out briskly in the rooms. The point is businesses right now are crafting their plans based on how they can maximize safety and reduce the amount of contact between people and other customers. It is impossible, alicia, for you to be an aeft stigz in this business and not touch someones skin so we asked how are you doing this, how are you navigating that field . We are a Business Owner, we have our family and if we keep closed, were going to break our business and lose our jobs. We try to be as safe as we can, like wearing gloves, masks, hand sanitizers. We require our clients to come and have masks and gloves and sanitize their hands before they come in. And this way, i think, its safe. Reporter and whether it is a barber shop or a spa here in georgia, or its in texas or North Carolina or california or anywhere else, the same inherent problems exist, and so what were seeing in the next week is 16 states have a stayathome order thats going to be expiring or theyre opening new businesses. The point is if we can develop a blueprint that works, that yes, there is contact between the Business Owner and the client, but if it maximizes safety, thats replicate that. Because all over the United States in the coming days its not just georgia, its not just south carolina. Its going to be tennessee and ohio and colorado. Many other states that are reintroducing reopenings into their state. And theyve got to figure out a way to manage this. Thats the point, and as we mentioned earlier, definitely divided opinion on how well thats going to go. Sam thank you so much. Just three hours south of atlanta is the city of albany, georgia, it is one of the hardest hit in the state with over 1,400 cases on friday. The mayor of albany is with me now. I know that you oppose the governors decision to reopen. Why . Well, thats easy. We are still recovering here in albany. Weve been hit hardest in the state. We know what the devastation that can result from this virus. Weve seen it firsthand and were just now in the process of recovering, rebounding from the virus and its not a time to lift the restrictions. Mayor, when you talk to your constituents, when you talk to Business Owners in your community, what are you hearing from them . Well, different things, ms. Menendez. The viewers who saw your previous segment saw some of the people in these various businesses have been out of work, have had no income in a month. They are concerned about whether or not they can continue to stay in business. But here in albany, actually im very proud, most of our independent restaurants have said we are not going to open up until we have a clearance or more confirmation from the medical community. Also, you have the consideration that it was only thursday night when restaurants received the restrictions, which have been imposed by the governor. So theres a lot of uncertainty. And then here in albany in the present climate, some Business Owners are convinced folks are not going to come out. They dont have the confidence to do so, which is understandable. Mayor, youve asked the governor for exemptions to these measures for hot spots. Have you heard from the Governors Office . Well, i did not directly. It was the chairman of the county commission, who requested that albany and hot spots be carved out. As you may know, the governor said no city or county can implement any measures which are more stringent than this executive order. I think that was not a very rational decision when you see that the rates of infection are increasing in certain areas in the state. And the chairman of the county commission was informed by the government, some representative of the Governors Office that the governor feels there should be a uniform executive order in place. However, i do need to say that the Governors Office assured the chairman of the county commission that in the event we saw an increase in the rate of infection, the state would allocate Additional Resources to help us combat the virus and bring it under control. Mayor, when you talk to health experts, health officials, you hear the same thing over and over again, which is that the decision about when to reopen will have to be tied very closely to the availability of testing. What is the availability of testing like right now in your community . Well, actually, we have been assured that the National Guard will be operating a testing site seven days a week. Anyone can be tested. I dont know if theres anything like that in the country. Thats what they call universal testing. But of course it will be up to our citizens to exercise that opportunity. As ive said, its not yet online. Were optimistic that we will have testing in place next week. Thats beyond what all but the most stringent advocates for testing call for. That is the availability of testing for everyone. All right. Mayor, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for having me. New yorks governor announced this week that early Antibody Test results revealed that one in five new yorkers may have had covid19. The preliminary results show that more residents were infected than officials originally estimated. Msnbc anchor corey coffin joins me now from new york city. What has the city learned from these early test results . Reporter i think that it was surprising for city officials to learn just how many cases might be out there that were not recorded. Some 14 of people in that early sample study tested positive for having antibodies, which correlates to some 2. 7 Million People in the state of new york, obviously much higher than the current number of recorded cases at this particular moment. And of course officials still have to think about the accuracy of the Antibody Testing. Those numbers will likely change as the testing get more and more precise because the fda, of course, had to fast track a lot of these tests. So even as the numbers tweak and get more accurate, were still going to see a higher rate. And of course as your previous guest just mentioned, Governor Cuomo says that testing is very closely tied with reopening the state. So theyre moving forward on a rollout basis with that. I also want to ask you while i have you, the pentagon has confirmed that the usns comfort will head back to virginia. Do you have a sense of why this is happening now and what the timeline is . Reporter yeah, weve just heard two field hospitals, Javits Center and usns comfort will be doing a draw down and they say that this will happen probably over the next week or so, with the goal of about april 30th. Thats not a hard line official set date, but that is the goal here. And what it looking like is thankfully, as hospitalizations go down, even though the numbers are still very high, hospitals are able to bring those patients in and the beds, the amount of beds that are being used here, for example, at usns comfort, just 71 yesterday out of the 500 beds they have. So the president has said he would like to move usns comfort to its next mission. All right. Thank you so much. In chelsea, massachusetts, a hot spot for communities of color, Antibody Testing there has produced alarming results. A survey showed that out of 200 participants, 32 of them had antibodies to the virus. Its a Staggering Amount compared to the 2 of chelsea residents who have tested positive. Here to discuss with us is dr. Aaron carroll, a pediatrician and professor of pediatrics at the Indiana University school of medicine. Great to see you. Walk us through this. What do these Antibody Tests mean . They tell us how many people have already been exposed to the disease and mounted an immune response. We hope that means that they would be immune to it in the future. But its the best measure we have at the moment to tell how many people have been infected and have recovered. To your point about how we would hope that thats what it means, interesting that you have the w. H. O. Reporting yesterday that theres currently no evidence that people who have recovered or had covid antibodies are safe from getting it again. What does that mean . So just because theyve developed antibodies doesnt mean that they could not catch it again. Some viruses work that day. Once we get chicken pox, for instance, we dont get it again for the rest of our life. There are some viruses that it wanes over time and you might need to get another vaccine or booster and as you get older, you could have more susceptibility. We dont know where covid is going to lie on that scale. It could be that people that get the disease are immune or a week, a month, a year or forever or really not at all. We think based on the numbers that weve seen that theres some level of immunity just because otherwise it would be raging through communities over and over again, even inside households. And we havent seen that so much. But we dont yet know if this is a virus where once youre in k infected, youre good to go. Theres also questions about these tests and whether or not they are in fact as accurate that we hoped they would be the New York Times reporting that scientists verifying the accuracy claim that out of 14 on the market only three delivered, quote, consistently reliable results. Can we trust these tests . Its such a broad question. What we really care about is do real cases show up positive and not negative. We dont want to see what we call false positives where its telling us that theyve been infected when they havent, or false negatives where its telling us that they havent been infected when they have. These really matter when a disease is really rare in a population because any positive you see is likely to be a false positive. If it is prevalent, meaning a fair number of people have had it, then the tests can become more reliable. But we dont know in what areas people have had it and not had it and were not really putting the tests under rigorous testing to figure that out. There are so many of them and theyre coming so fast its not clear which are the good ones and which are the sketchy ones. Doctor carroll, thank you so much for your time. Up next, doctors say testing is key to reopening the country, but widespread testing is particularly difficult in americas immigrant communities. Ill talk to a california congresswoman about how theyre tackling the problem in their district. 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Its something my next guest warned would happen. I would like to welcome california congresswoman nora tore es. Youre in a district one in every five of your constituents is an immigrant. How much does it affect Community Health if they are scared to go to a doctor or hospital to seek care . Thank you, alicia. It affects our community a great deal. Number one, every Single Person is afraid, deathly afraid of this virus. We all want to be safe. We want to go back to work. But we understand that we may have to pay with our lives. And look, that is not acceptable. When we denied one person, one resident, a neighbor or a child a test, we are denying health care to our entire population and we are putting all americans at risk. And that is something that i am so happy that finally the administration understood, but it took 42 members of congress to write a letter and it was only after two days after we sent that letter that the administration decided to back off. Now, i think it was a little too late, frankly, because the message has already been out there in our communities that they are the scapegoats. It started with undocumented People Living in our community and now that this president has moved on to legal residents of the United States, and that is unacceptable. And in the wake of all of this, of course some new decisions about immigration coming out of the white house. I want you to listen to some sound from the president on the new ban put in place. Take a listen. By pausing immigration, well help put unemployed Americans First in line for jobs, as america reopens. So important. It would be wrong and unjust for americans laid off by the virus to be replaced with new immigrant labor flown in from abroad. What does it tell you that in the midst of a pandemic, a Public Health crisis, that the president and his administration are choosing to make this a priority . It is unfortunate that the president , once again, is choosing racism and politics over the health care of all americans. Americans are already first in line for many of the jobs that we have, many of our jobs in Public Service require american citizenship already. What he is talking about here makes absolutely no sense, because while he works to build a wall in our southern border, we have hundreds of airports across the u. S. , you know, that dont have a border, per se. So we are dependent on many of these immigrants to do the tough jobs that simply americans are not attracted to work in those fields. Congresswoman, i want to ask you about relief packages more generally. Mitch mcconnell has said that any stimulus package will not include funds for state or local governments. What does that mean on the ground and what do negotiations look like moving forward . Look, it has taken a great deal of negotiating and giving a lot from Speaker Pelosi in order to negotiate the deals that we have been able to accomplish. Senator Mitch Mcconnell needs to understand and he needs to come to the realization that his state is not the fifth largest economy in the world. California is. And this is not the hunger games that were playing here with americans economy. And his state, you know, if we really want to bring it down to the reality, his state is dependent on california and new yorks economy in order to get some relief. So no, Mitch Mcconnell, we need to help all americans. We need to help all working families in the u. S. That are struggling. And hardworking immigrants should not be left on the sidelines. And american citizens born here in the u. S. Should not be left on the sidelines simply because they are married to a legal resident of the United States, someone who may not be an american citizen, but file jointly with their spouse. What are we talking about here . Were talking about american lives and were talking about our economy. Were never going to be able to get back to normal if that is a possibility, we have to do it by being realistic and by helping all of our workers and n