first up, customs chaos in the midst of a pandemic. what took so long to get everyone through? and did this hurt more than help? new answers about the results of the president's coronavirus test as the white house promises nationwide testing, why there are new worries about the rollout? states putting off primaries, but some are not. how the coronavirus outbeak could have a lasting effect. a lot of news coming at you. we have a team of reporters and analysts for us. we begin with the coronavirus pandemic. in the u.s. there are at least 2955 confirmed cases of coronavirus across 49 states and port roeky, this morning the death toll climbing to 60. >> overnight chaos across the country as president trump's europe travel ban went into effect, reports of massive delays, hour-long lines at several major airports including new york, dallas and chicago. you're looking at video from one of those airports. first, georgia, now the second state to postpone its presidenti presidential primary. the vote scheduled for march 24th is pushed back until may 19th. this comes days after louisiana rescheduled its primary until june. president trump tested negative for coronavirus. that is according to a statement from his doctor. this is hours after he confirmed he was testing at a briefing after a press briefing yesterday. >> i also took the test last night. >> you took the test? >> yeah. and i decided i should based on the press conference. >> when will we have the results? >> i don't know. whatever it takes. they send it to a lab. >> all right. so at that same news conference, vice president pence announced the administration plan to extend the european travel ban to include the uk and ooirnld. wendy wolf at the chicago o'hare airport. what happened there and at other airports across the country last night? >> good morning to you. customs can be a nightmare on a good day. but last night travelers coming to the u.s. from europe had an absolute nightmare. it took hours to get through these doors hippbehind me becauf the extra coronavirus screenings. yesterday here, we saw a lot more ems workers planning to take temperatures of the passengers coming into the united states. unfortunately it looks like there weren't quite enough. take a look at these pictures. passengers wait the up to eight hours to get through last night. airport staff tried the best they could do to help by giving out bottled water and snacks. illinois governor blasting the federal government overnight on twitter calling the long wait and krounds crowds unacceptable and the issues that need to be address the immediately. this is after the president added the uk and ireland to the travel ban. remember, u.s. citizens returning home from europe are being asked to self quarantine for 14 days if they have visited any of the countries on this travel ban. the passengers we spoke to taking all the chaos in stride. >> there's a lot of panic and a huge amount of delay because i think it was the cpd if that's what they're called, weren't allowing people in until they wept through the paper checks, sign forms. there was still people left after the four-hour wait. >> we are waking up this morning with a new normal here in illinois, and frankly across the country. the governor here has closed all public schools and masses and church services with more than 250 people are canceled indefinitely while we try to flatten the curve of this. at the end of the day, whether air travel, ladies, or shopping at the grocery store, we need patience and calm in the days and weeks and months. >> eight hours in line, more than patience. >> it was truly body up against body, so tightly packed. one thing i want to clarify with you, where you're standing right now, the line has gone down. but you say there will be another rush of people coming in. >> there certainly could be as people try to get home from europe. these are the doors that people come through after they go through immigration. so the pictures you were seeing that people had given to the different television stations last night, that's what's behind these doors. that's not happening now. and the flights we are expecting here in the international terminal this morning are from mexico. they won't see the lines. we are going to have another wave later this afternoon from europe and hopefully they will get their ducks in a row. >> it's not like you can really stagger that. because a plane comes in, you have hundreds of people all at once. >> at chicago o'hare, wendy, thank you. we want to get to hans nicols live from the white house. we know the president was tested for coronavirus. >> tested negative. the president in that surprise press conference yesterday said he had taken the test, after a note from his doctor that he wouldn't be taking the test or, a test wasn't indicated. but the president saying his temperature is very low. doesn't have any indication. he has had exposure to people who after the fact had tested. that's what really fomented these media questions about whether or not the president has been tested or will be tested. now, there's a broader question to stick with the testing theme on just where they are with the drive-through tests, where they are with having broader tests throughout the country. and we heard from the surgeon general last night acknowledging the problem but also promising a solution. >> there have been problems with testing. tony fouci has said it. i've said it. but we feel that we are in a good place now through partnerships with the private industry. what people need to understand is, in it our country the cdc was never designed to be able to provide testing for hundreds of millions of people. but the president and secretary azar have named a testing czar to oversee coordination. we are at a critical inflection point in this country where we need to flatten the curve. do we want to look more like south korea with a lower mortality rate or more like italy? >> so there are two tracks coming out of the white house. on the health front they're talking about flattening the curve. there's an acknowledgement things will get worse before better. there's also hedging on the test and what it means even if you come back negative. we heard from dr. bricks yesterday that even a negative test doesn't mean you're totally in the clear, especially if you've had exposure. it might not show up on the test. we'll get a briefing today at 5:00 p.m. to clarify a lot of this. president clearly was trying to take a victory yesterday on the stock market and the bill that's expected to pass the senate later this week. it passed the house late on friday. there is an economic effort to have some sort of stimulus injected into the economy as we heard from multiple officials yesterday, we're in the early beginnings of the economic battle. >> hans mnichols, thank you. now to europe, in italy the highest number of cases in the region, more than 17,000 affected. more than 1900 recovered. more than 1400 deaths. claudio levagna, making changes that will last significantly into easter. what's the plan? >> the vatican announced it will close its doors if not the walls until april the 12th, which includes easter, the most important holiday in the religious calendar here to stop the gathering of people here, especially in st. peters, to stop the spread of coronavirus. if you want to see how that works, you can see it right now as the pope, pope francis, for only the second time in history, is reciting his traditional sunday prayer online, streamed online. usually he does that from the window of the papal apartments overlooking st. peter scares in front of tens of thousands of people here. that's what they're trying to avoid by announcing that all celebrations are going to be streamed online rather than in front of the faithful. this is not the first time he's doing this. he's already done the prayer online last weekend on sunday. but that was a bit of a half-baked measure or attempt. because in the end, they displayed, they streamed the prayer on the big screen at the back of st. peter, so 2,000 people came anyway. that's what they're trying to avoid. not only that, while he showed up at the prayer to great them to the joy of the people people here and the horror of authorities trying to avoid that. nobody can go in now and it's going to stay like that for the foreseeable future. all celebrations from today's celebration from the pope will be spraetreamed until april 12t >> claudio, thank you. joining us now, eileen sullivan marks, good morning to you. i am so struck by those pictures of the airports where people are waiting. we want to show them to you again. we've been told social distance, three to six feet. this is not social distancing. what do you make of these pictures? >> scary. when i saw those pictures, i immediately looked at you and said they are too close together and coming from a high risk area. so this is something that people are feeling scared about. but we need to understand what does it all mean in our daily lives? i see santarry wash around here, good for you. what do we need to do? if you're not in that line, do social distancing. you don't want to be in large crowds, be near people. if you end up in that situation, stay home for two weeks. >> is a restaurant a group of large people? would you go out to eat? >> i was at a rest raichbt last night. of course the restaurants in new york right now are kind of empty. i want to help them out. but there weren't anyone near me by six, eight feet. that was all right. what you have to understand is that the virus is in the droplets of our oral pharynx if you have it. and those are weighted down. it's not like it's out in the air and going to float 20 feet. it's going to go three to six feet. it's in our stomach, intestines, here, you swallow. all good practices have to be followed, hand washing as well as making sure if you do have a cough, you cover your face, cough in the elbow, wash your handsing with all of those things we know. >> i think i've heard the term wash your hands about a million times over the last two months. but the importance of drinking a lot of liquids, another interesting point, the fact that we consume the virus. it cannot live in your stomach acid, is that right? >> it passes through our system. we don't know enough about that. acid kills a lot, but i would be cautious about anything going through the intestinal system. >> we have a piece for news, a professor under quarantine in shanghai said he felt safer in china than the u.s. he wrote, in china the obligation to isolate felt shared and the public changes immediately. sterilization, cleanliness, prioritized by everyone at all times. in contrast in the u.s. are hasay fair. lack of leadership have left americans confused and exposed. do we want to be like italy? south korea? is it a societal things where americans say, i want to go out? >> have the choice? >> i think when he was in china and he was isolated, they were in the middle of really understanding how serious it was, and it was spread far more than where it is right now here in the united states. but i think people are changing their habits. look at the streets of new york city. i'm talking to family and friends who canceled major events, anniversary parties. i know someone i know who's canceling a wedding. you have to make these decisions ahead of time. i think people are wrestling with this, usually talking to a nurse, tweeting me, what do we do? big events have to be canceled. what's happening right now is we are hearing of these major events occurring, and that's waking us up. i think americans are waking up, and they're changing their habits. every little thing we do, flattening the curve, every little thing we do means we are ahead and we can show we're ahead faster. there's time to do that. we can do it now, so we don't end up in as much of a pickle as having so much high-level need in hospitals and health systems. hospitals and health systems are preparing. they're overpreparing. they'll be ready. however we need to get ahead of that so we don't have as much of a dire circumstance in the health system. >> is avoiding the large gatherings enough? you think you want to go out in nature, walk, touch the handrails? >> then wash your hands. >> people just need to hunker down at home or is it okay to take a stroll? >> you can take a stroll. i used the handrail, came in here, haven't touched my face. >> you're the only one in american not touching their face. >> i can't stop thinking about it. >> it's so hard. >> especially once you think about it. >> your yes, you just -- >> yep, or your eye. the graphic one more time about flattening the curve and shore showing where we're at. where would you estimate we're at right now? and you said we can still get control of this. we haven't hit that peak that's above that dotted line? >> we're probably going to get a little bit above it. what we need to think about is how do we not get to that tippy top? and that's what we mean by flattening the curve. that's why i think it's very important that we do everything that we can. i'm planning out four to six weeks ahead with our schools, you know, with my university, with my students that we're remote learning, not having clinical sites, direct patient care at this point. we're doing a lot of simulation learning, virtual. that's going to continue another six weeks. we'll know where we are in six weeks. probably going to get above that dotted line. let's not get to the peak. >> a lot of good information. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. the president's son in law adding fighting coronavirus to his list of responsibilities. >> the a typical path he took to get advice on the pandemic next. y supplements-neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. i've always been faand still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin... i want that too. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. what's next? 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welcome back to msnbc. a live look around the world. stunning images, this is the arc day triumph. several times this week president trump has spoken publicly about the administration's plans for the coronavirus response. among the doctors and medical experts at the middle of the white house plans, jared kushner. >> the washington post reporting he enlisted a doctor in his family who crowd sourced response suggestions from facebook. >> join us now, kevin cirilli, bloomberg news. good morning. what's your reaction to that? any surprise he's getting involv involved? >> politics aside, his portfolio has included virtually every top high profile situation in the administration. it's not a surprise. he worked on the u.s.-china trade front. i think the broader takeaway, kushner aside, the broader takeaway, speaker of the house nancy pelosi working round the clock with steven mnuchin to advance a bipartisan bill that targets free testing for all when they're come with the help of the private sector, working with government officials on both sides of the aisle. this is what i think folks have to focus on, the small business administration. 30 to $50 billion in liquidity to use that they're going to be targeting over the next several weeks and months with the help of speaker pelosi and democrats to small businesses around the country, not just to worry about big businesses but small businesses to provide loans, make sure that once we're past that they can make a roaring comeback. >> are those enough to prevent a recession? >> i think the term i hear from top economists, that's a quar question, technical recession. the contrast between where we are in 2020 versus where we were in 2008 where they are very different situations. to prep for this interview i was reading some of the local reports coming from china where businesses are opening. apple has reopened stores in china. they've used this word, revenge spending. people have been having to stay home so long they're going out and spending a lot of money. i think we're going to have some patriotic spending when we're through this. look, you ask a very important question. there was a first round of economic stimulus that advanced in the last 48 hours. the federal reserve likely to keep rates low. there's going to be more need. candidly, more republicans oppose that house measures than democrats did under the leadership of speaker pelosi. >> her package includes two weeks of paid sick leave, three months of family medical leave, enhanced benefits, and a boost in medicaid and nutrition funding. do you know about the timing of this? >> immediately. the senate is set to vote on this monday evening. the president signaled his support. i go back to this. speaker pelosi and the democrats really working with the administration. she said that this was something that she felt she wanted to show to the american people that, yes, republicans and democrats can come together to provide economic relief for folks as we continue to move toward this. and there is other pockets of bipartisanship happening on capitol hill. i spoke with senator mark warner, a top democratic on the intelligence committee. i interviewed senator marcha blackburn, a republican from tennessee. they're raising the questions to make sure the economic supply chain is protected, to make sure that once we flatten the curve, that things are going to be make sure that the liquidity in the markets are still there, to quickly bounce back. that's the biggest difference between now and 2008. we know what's stalling the economy, once folks start to go back to shop and are able to shop like they are in china right now, then that patriotic sense of small businesses and main street, that will come back roaring. >> so we know that the president has tested negative for the coronavirus. but he did seem fairly unaffected by the possible tee he could have had it or was downplaying that. we asked him about that at yesterday's briefing. take a look. >> respectfully you've been sending mixed messages. we watched as you shook hands yesterday. he talked about 5 million tests being available, probably won't need that many. has your own sense of urgency evolved? >> no, i've been urgent. this has been from the beginning. you know that because i closed up our country to china. >> why are you shaking hands? >> it almost becomes a habit and you get out of that. and frankly i was a nonhand shaker. >> will you -- >> wait a minute. relax. >> the president's response, and we've gotten more and more people on capitol hill trying to work together as you mentioned bipartisanly bringing everything forward. do you think the president is on par with that? >> can i just say, kelly o'donnell once again giving a master class for us, young journalists, she's an all-star. >> she's holding her -- >> absolutely. asking fair questions. i think what that moment illustrated is a moment quite frankly that all of us in america are realize, we've gone from hand shakes to elbow bumps. that's where we are. in this week in particular and the administration going to be giving another briefing with dr. fouci at 5:00 p.m., talk is going to turn to free testing. >> kevin cirilli, thank you very much. >> yeah. airport bottle necks at a time when you're supposed to be avoiding big crowds, they were crammed like saur dooenz. >> besides the health concerns, what's the economic impact of the ban? 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>> it's a one-two punch. demand has limited because of the fears because of the outbreak. president trump also a lot of people in the airline industry were blindsided by president trump's announcement that travel from european countries was going to be banned. the government has been revving up to implement these restrictions. airlines have been canceling flights, thousands of them. when it comes to the economic impact for them, they've been hit hard by the coronavirus outbreak. fears, travelers no longer wanting to get onto a plane. scared they're going to get some kind of infection or the coronavirus. we've seen in terms of stocks, most major airlines, stocks plummeted by more than 50% over the past couple of months. the new ban means they'll be losing millions of dollars in revenue. what american airlines is doing, they're parking most of their fleet, because not only are they suspending most international flights but demand domestically is plummeting and they're trying to deal with their own revenue. we're seeing all three, american, delta and united, wavi waiving fees. >> what's the possibility of a bailout? we know that virgin at leant is going to ask boris johnson for a $7.5 billion bailout. do you think that's possible here? >> it's possible. they're hurting and in crisis mode. >> thank you for joining us. the restaurant industry and workers taking a major hit. >> the government is encouraging the public to avoid large gatherings and practice social distancing to curb the spread. >> joining us now, founder and ceo of tara lucci evino. luca di, pietro. >> perfect. >> talk to us about what you and your family has experienced so far? >> we have restaurants in new york city, and our business in the last week has been going down steadily, and we are down about 70% from the beginning of the week and year over year. >> 70%. what a difference that could make? >> we are in crisis mode and trying to make providing more comfortable and save everybody's job. it is a struggle. i'm trying to be creative. >> what are you doing? >> one of the things we are trying to do is having our restaurants focus more on deliveries. we are implementing more deliveries. we're trying to be creative with new things to deliver, such, you know, we've never made pizza. we're starting to make pizza. we are making hlassaugna that yu can make at home, having our own people become delivery persons. because so that we can keep our staff employed. we have many people that work for us that work paycheck to paycheck, and we want to make sure that their paycheck doesn't disappear so suddenly. >> what do you need as an owner. what would you look to from the government? >> first and foremost, fraeks, taxes, sales taxes are due on friday. every 20th of the month, sales taxes are due. we would welcome a delay in the payment of sales taxes until further notice. that would save so many restaurants. right now that cash is so important to pay vendors, to pay rents, to pay employees. so that would be first or most one of the most important actions that government and state government could take. >> how long can you sustain what you're doing right now? how long can your business take a hit for? >> i cannot foresee the future. i believe that as we are now -- i would not last more than a month if things did not change and if we do not get some help. >> you have family in italy. we know italy is now being called the especially stra of the outbreak on a virtual lockdown, even services, celebrations during holy week are going to be spraemd online. they won't have any members of the faithful present. how is your family doing? how are they coping? >> well, they are doing okay. they're not -- no one that i know has been sick or hospitalized. and that makes me feel good. over is at home. i spoke with my mother yesterday, and it was pretty funny. she said, i am so tired of sorry to say it watching the news. i'm just going crazy watching the news. i cannot read because my mind is just -- the only thing that saves me and makes me happy is cooking. so i'm just spending a lot of time just making food. and i said, just two of you guys and you're sheltered? 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>> is it a best guess? >> i was like sometimes the -- kind of like, why they put 14th? well, how do you know? we are hoping so because so many people are, you know, being hurt. the industries around sports i think has been great, it's been great that a lot of teams have stepped up and said they will pay their stadium vendors. i think that's a really good thing. hopefully this sense of community while we're waiting for the games to begin will, a, extend to the people who, you know, who demand on these games for livelihood. and i'd think it would give -- i think you had mentioned how we rely on these games for an escape. maybe we need to stop escaping and focus on things we've not been. >> you wrote an article saying coronavirus fallout shows how we have taken sports for granted. what do you mean by that? >> i think that just, as you said, for so long, that's been our respite, escape from the real world. and, you know -- but i thought about it and said, you know what, baby? that's part of the problem. it's been so much of an escape. we've got a huge election coming up. maybe this time we should really think about how we're going to get, you know, voter turnout? what role can athletes play in getting people to register to vote? there are so many more important things that we sometimes use sports to run away from. why not that was part of the problem with colin kaepernick. people were complaining that now the real world wasn't truly into the stadium. so, you know, i mean i'll always like a glass full kind of person. so maybe we could use this time of absence to really focus on things that really matter, from family to politics to like i said an election, how are we going to make sure this does not impact our ability to turn out. >> glass half full, could any of those games have been played without and audience? >> of course. but the thing is, i've been doing this for almost 50 years. i've been in press boxes, arenas, i was just at the super bowl. i'm sure that all these decades i was there, our stadiums were probably filled with germs, and, you know, what i'm saying? last remember a couple months ago the patriots had to take two separate planes because half the team had come down with a virus in the flu. we've seen it with the utah jazz. teams are always dealing with viruses and fluz and quarantines. they didn't unplug the season. this is a new reality. >> what do you think should happen with the olympics? it's not canceled yet. do you think it should be, or postponed? >> it seems like if we are concerned about tons of people being around each other, yeah. the logic is that, sure, it should be unplugged. i hate to say that because again, as somebody who's been doing this and covering the olympics, i know how hard people have worked to get there. but if people are really concerned about this, yeah, it should be. hopefully, i hate to use the word hope, it would be great that sooner rather than later we've got to get our arms around this. my biggest concern is one of the wonderful things about our society is we've got a beautifully open society. i hate to see us put ourselves on lockdown. now like going to a -- i'm here in phoenix. i went to a little restaurant, and i almost felt like it was a patriotic duty to, you know, to support vendors. so anyway, yeah, i think that if things are as they are now, yeah, they should unplug the olympics. i really would hate -- i'd hate to see that. i would like for us to come up with a solution before that. >> bill, i'm from phoenix i have to know, what restaurant? 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wyoming canceling in-person voting. is it a bad precedent to set, or should more states actually follow suit? >> i think more states will probably follow suit. now, as far as the logic behind that, it is debatable. at least for the next two weeks, you will see a lot of cancellations. but let's look at turnout. typically in a democracy, you want to make sure that more people are participating. if you were to hold massive elections while authorities from the cdc, the w.h.o, governors, the president of the united states, while they're saying don't be around a lot of people, practice social distancing, that is going to drive down the numbers of people actually participating in these elections. so i know some of the logic behind this is, we want to have more turnout and so these elections are being postponed. >> georgia's had a lot of issues with voting problems, with registration, security concerns, even a lawsuit over minority voting access. is this kind of thing going to just be another headache when already systems are dealing with the pandemic and what to do? >> let me tell you the biggest issue here. i still have a question for the secretary of state in georgia, where i live. if individuals have already early voted in the presidential primary for georgia, they get to vote again on march -- excuse me, on may 19th. does that mean they get to vote for the presidential primary twice? those are questions we have not had the answer to yet. it will spark more issues as it relates to voter suppression in georgia. i promise you, people are going to say, this was not well thought out and this was another suppression tactic, regardless of the background of that, that will be the narrative starting monday. >> whereas the flip of the coin, as you mentioned, is that not delaying it could affect voter turnout. really quick, rashad, "rolling stone" writes that tonight's debate is bernie's last chance. do you agree? >> yeah, last chance. i will say this. i think bernie bros might be riding with biden after tuesday, because i predict that biden is going to win pretty much all of those states, and he's going to win arizona by double digits. and that's going to be it. nail in the coffin. >> wow. rashad richey, thank you for your time this morning. and stay with cnbc for live post-debate analysis. join lawrence o'donnell and our team of political experts tonight only on msnbc. and on tuesday, join brian williams, rachel maddow, and steve kornacki, breaking down the results. that's tuesday at 6:00 p.m. eastern. thank you for watching. i'm lindsay ricer. >> and i'm cory coffer. next on velshi, the ugly side of fear amid the coronavirus outbreak. all of that coming up next. mid coronavirus outbreak all of that coming up next ♪ ♪ for people 45 plus at average risk. i took your advice and asked my doctor to order cologuard, that noninvasive colon cancer screening test. the delivery guy just dropped it off. our doctor says it uses advanced science. it's actually stool dna technology that finds 92 percent of colon cancers. no prep, and private. colon cancer screening that's as easy as get, go, gone. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your healthcare provider if cologuard is right for you. ask your healthcare provider take dayquil severe with vicks vapocool.d, (acapella) whoa! 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