saying or even his host there in so japan. so bring us up to date on this since we were sleeping while a lot of this unfolded. >> yeah. exactly. and while you were getting ready for breakfast, president trump was wrapping up dinner here. it wasn't just people inside his own administration, it was the person, the foreign leader that president trump was standing alongside when he made those he comments. he was asked specifically about whether he believed those recent missile tests by north korea violate united nations security council resolutions. that is something that japanese prime minister shinzo abe believes, it is somethinging that national security adviser john bolton says he believes, making those remarks publicly just this weekend here in japan. but president trump, to him, it just didn't matter. he brushed that aside, despite the concern that giving north korea a pass in effect on this could have potentially severe international consequences down the road. here is a bit of what the president had to say. >> my people think it could have been a violation as you know. i view it differently. i view it as a man who perhaps wants to get attention, and perhaps not. who knows. it doesn't matter. i think that some day we'll have a deal. i'm not in a rush. >> president trump insists he does still believe he's able to get to the denuclearization deal with kim jong-un. and i got to tell you, chris, even though there is a disparity between him and shinzo abe on the issue of the missile tests and the violation of the u.n. resolutions, shinzo abe, the prime minister, went out of his way to make concessions to the president, to in effect compliment him about the way he's been handling north korea, saying, hey, this is a new way of dealing with kim jong-un, maybe i have to give it a try as abe opens the door to his own face to face one on one with kim jong-un down the road. because, remember, this trip as a white house official told me is all about the relationship between these two leaders. yes, there are serious policy business as we saw from these north korea comments as well as other comments that the president made, but in effect most of the trip has been ceremonial events, very lavish ceremonial events like not just the sumo wrestling match or the dinner we're talking about, but the opportunity for president trump to meet the new emperor of japan, he becomes the first world leader to do so. >> and let's not, you know, forget the fact that was a very big deal for them to make him first world leader to go and meet the new emperor. but there is also a bigger picture, elena, this is not first time the president has sided with north korea or in fact other dictators or authoritarian leaders. what is the political calculus with that or is there one. is this more about the president backing and identifying people he simply sees as strong >> leaders? >> i think that senator lindsey graham gave a little bit of a window into what the president's thinking might be here. and when she said this is a top administrative goal for them, which is to open up and denuclearize north korea, and that this is a way to try and keep those negotiations going. now, that's a pretty tough cover for the president who has continued over the last year to really not get much out of north so korea. so i think that clearly he's trying to keep those conversations going because he's made that such a centerpiece of his foreign policy. but as of yet, it is not playing out in any way that is actually proving to be all that politically helpful for the president. >> the president still found time with everything else that was going on to tweet about impeachment and about the democrats. how much are things back home weighing on him? >> well, listen, i think the prospect of impeachment and the hanging shadow of congressional oversight on his administration is something that is always present for president trump. like a little bit of a burr in your shoe. always there, always feeling it, and the president is always irritated by it as we can tell from what he says publicly, what he says on twitter as well. you're right in that the moments before he headed over to that state banquet this evening here in tokyo, morning your time, the president was tweeting about the possibility of impeachment, tweeting his frustration with he democrats. he was also at the press conference asked about this, and the president repeated here in the world stage on foreign soil what we heard him say so often at home. no collusion, no obstruction. for president trump, it is yet another opportunity, another high profile opportunity to air his grievances, to share his concerns that he has about congressional oversight. but just because the president doesn't like it doesn't mean democrats aren't going to do anything about it, right? when the members of congress are on recess this week for the holiday weekend, but there are still wheels in motion related to a series of subpoenas issued to the president, to his administration, to his top staffers, for example, that are yet to be resolved, most recently, of course, that subpoena for deutsche bank and capital one and there was that agreement between the president's lawyers and congressional democrats to in effect hit pause on that for a little bit, but that pause button is not indefinite. at some point the appeals process runs out and the rubber meets the road and the trump administration has to put up with those subpoenas or show up in court. >> that's a critical question hanging out there. so, elena, you've been on the trail with democrats, you've written about kirsten gillibrand, mayor pete, amy are klobuchar. are these if you want to call them political things but impeachment the question of whether or not people testify, is that what's on voters' minds, is that what people are talking the about? the president believes that if the democrats decide they're going to go forward with impeachment, it is to his what benefit. what are you hearing out there? >> i spent last four days in iowa following kirsten gillibrand and elizabeth warren and of the events i saw, only one question came up about the mueller report. so i think that -- or at least in somewhat related to impeachment questions. i think these candidates are at times getting questions around impeachment, but i think the assumption even in the minds of voters is that a lot of this is baked in. they already want to get rid of the president, it is the question of how are they going to do it? some prefer a more aggressive tact through something like impeachment hearings, but for many of them, many of the voters i spoke with, they want to beat him and beat him at his own guy at t game at the ballot box. that's what the candidates are leaning into. when kirsten gillibrand was asked about the impeachment proceedings, she deferred to nancy pelosi and said if nancy pelosi believes that's what the house should do, she'll move forward with it. they're more than happy to lay it off on house departments, let them make the decisions, move forward, so they can then pivot to the policy areas that they truly care about and believe they are going to be able to distinguish themselves in this massive primary field. >> thanks to you. hallie we'll see you later. as the month of may winds down, hallie, i talked about this, the clock is ticking. in this case louder and louder for one of the president's closest confidantes, hope hicks. the former white house communications director who left that post early last year is being called back to washington. the house judiciary committee wants to talk to her. first requesting a trove of documents by next tuesday, june 4th, and also directing her to testify before the committee june 19th. hicks, of course, meets the standard for the investigation for sure because she is in more than two dozen pages of the mueller report. but will the president step in to try to stop her? nbc's hans nichols is at the white house. also charlie savage, new york times washington correspondent and former prosecutor cynthia oxn hicks hicks is one of the witnesses cited frequently in the mueller does report. does the white house have any say over whether or not she >> cooperates? >> well, the white house hasn't said whether or not they have a say or whether or not they're going to weigh in. i suspect the answer is yes. and i suspect the white house is going to do something with what they did with don mcgahn, they initially said don't hand over any of those documents, we think those documents belong to us, and they hinted that they might invoke executive privilege, and then later on they asserted absolute immunity to try to prevent don mcgahn from appearing. don mcgahn don mcgahn indicated he didn't want much of this and would let the lawyers from the white house and house judiciary fight this out and he wouldn't insert the himself. the white house has been pretty silent specifically on hope hicks, but in the past, that's fit the pattern, where they say they're mulling it, up to the lawyers and they come out with some sort of assertion of some sort of privilege trying to prevent a former aide from stepping before the house. >> charlie, do you think they're going to stay silent for long? what do you see as the white house options here? >> i think the pattern is for them to stay silent publicly up until the deadline and then at the deadline say, look, we're directing this person not to talk or talling telling them don't turn over the documents or we'll make another one of these very aggressive contradicted by a court precedent claims that former senior administration aides don't have to show up before congress. there is no reason for them to change that position. so far it is working with don all mcgahn. all of this has to be resolved in court eventually. and the question really in my mind is when are democrats going to start that ball rolling because they're not going to want the clock to be run out through prolonged litigation >> here. >> yeah, i guess you're right about that. and timing is everything, right? we're already in the 2020 cycle, so charlie. so what is the calculus on either side? do you think the white house thinks the longer this plays out, the longer donald trump can play, they're going after me and my family card, the better it is for them? >> certainly looks like that's their strategy. i haven't seen anyone say overtly that's their strategy. it seems to be that trump likes the fight, he likes to portray democrats as coming after him because that keeps his base riled up. and to the extent that they can drag this out in the courts, maybe they can prevent any new information or damaging televised hearings taking stuff that is obscure in the pages of the mueller report, making it visible to voters. maybe can keep that from coming out before the 2020 election. on the other hand, the first two courts that have looked at subpoena challenges by trump's team where they put forward this very aggressive theory that congress lacks legislative authority to even ask questions from an oversight perspective, the first two judges to look at that have not been impressed and they have moved very quickly it dispose of it and get it kicked up to the higher level. if this is a run out the clock strategy, it may not succeed. >> we saw with don mcgahn that he got a subpoena, he declined, he said no. he said he viewed the white house as a client. so is the hope hicks situation completely different? >> i think it will eventually -- it will turn out to be basically the same. she would rather not testify. anybody would rather not testify and become a player in this so circus. so she will take this bystander status and say the white house doesn't want me to and you fight it out like mcgann. why shouldn't she? it is working. there are six people who refused to testify in front of the house and the house hasn't done anything about it. probably the way this will play out is eventually somebody will push on mcgahn and however that is resolved in the courts will sort of trickle down to all of the other witnesses. but you have to start. the house is giving up its authority. the white house the white house is stiff arming them and getting away with it. and until the house asserts its authority in court and files more of these actions to enforce these subpoenas, no witness will testify before there is no reason to. >> and do you see that's where this is going, ultimately will be decided in the courts or could you see some preemptive compromise? >> i don't see a compromise at i think all. i think it will be decided in the courts and it is a question of how long it takes to trickle up to the circuit level, not clear to me that the supreme court will take it, but certainly will go through the appeals court level. and the timing cannot finish until they actually do something in the house. and stop talking about it. this whole debate, should we call it impeachment, not call it impeachment, should the table be round, should the table be oval, this is a typical washington waste of time. what they need to do is enforce the subpoenas, otherwise they're giving away their equal status with the executive branch. >> hans what do we know about this agreement between the president's lawyers and congress on some of his financial >> documents? >> it is basically a deal to fast track and to not drag out the appeals process and to have some sort of decision come down. so the agreement reached just a couple of days ago basically says, look, the trump administration won't delay appeals and that what the -- the democrats won't actually seek to enforce the initial ruling right away. it is basically a plan to somehow get clarity, get certainty from the courts, but on an expedited matter. the white house lost the first round of this in court. the white house is saying we're not going to drag this out, we're going to get a decision, democrats accepted it. >> i want to go back quickly, charlie to what we heard from one of our reporters, we heard this repeatedly from our correspondents, i'm sure the new york times too, on the campaign trail, you watch the q&as in places like iowa, other early people states. people are not asking about people impeachment. people are not asking whether don mcgahn or hope hicks are going to testify and whether or not, you know, said candidate thinks that they should be compelled in some way, whether congress needs to be more i'm i'm curious how you see this playing out in these early days of 2020 and maybe even in the upcoming debate. >> well, i think it is right that the ordinary voter outside of the beltway does not pay attention to this sort of thing. it seems very insidery, very inside baseball, very procedural, very incremental, and to that -- that plays to trump's advantage, right? he can stone wall and it is just the politicians are fighting aga what what democrats want, of course, is televised hearings that bring new information to light that can breakthrough that. and make the ordinary voter up in the hinter land or my home state of indiana, so forth, pay attention and say something bad is happening and they're sure they'll find that thing if they can get people to cough up documents and testify. right now, this seems very detached from ordinary life or things that people care about. but if you can get to a point where information is coming to light on television that may >> change. >> i can remember so vividly, i was very, very young, but during watergate, john dean's testimony is so vivid in my mind, in that view of him sitting there was something basically the world stopped and watched that. so we shall see what happens and sort of underscores how important this fight could be. charlie savage, thank you, hans nichols, cynthia oxny, tha you. still ahead, the southern plains are bracing for more dangerous storms today after powerful tornadoes tore through neighborhoods, killing two we'll people. we'll take you live to one of the hardest hit areas in oklahoma. and senator elizabeth warren continuing to push a slew of new policy proposals to differentiate herself from that pack of 2020 democrats. but she's also making a play for one of bernie sanders' most prominent supporters. more on her new playbook coming up. most patients who saw 90% clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. don't use if you're allergic to tremfya®. tremfya® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya®. stay clearer. janssen can help you explore cost support options. the doctor's office might mejust for a shot.o but why go back there when you can stay home with neulasta® onpro? 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>> reporter: kerry? >> reporter: good morning, when chris. when the tornado touched down here, it destroyed what was a it motel. it stayed on the ground, and just on the opposite side it went into a trailer park where two people were killed. residents of el reno, oklahoma, dealing with an ongoing nightmare, following a crushing 1-2 punch from 1-2 punch from mother nature. >> we saw the green flash in the air and heard the noise of the tornadoes and the sirens. >> reporter: the deadly and destructive ef-3 tornado ripping through the small oklahoma suburb saturday night, with violent winds clocking in at 140 miles per hour. the powerful twister leveling a motel, and devastating a nearby trailer park. >> i opened up the front door and heard a sound that i never want to hear again. >> reporter: shane clark says he didn't think he and his wife would survive the terrifying moments when the tornado tore apart their home. >> the house exploded. i remember us flipping in the air and spinning around, and lan landing landing and i looked around for a second and it was just pitch >> reporter: black. >> reporter: crews now sifting through the rubble, the town dealing with more loss, just days after widespread flooding swept through the area. >> we need your prayers right and now. and pray for us, but the main thing is we know we got to pick the pieces up. >> reporter: another tornado carving a path of destruction near tulsa. homes, businesses and schools left damaged. the storm's powerful winds toppling trees in the town of sepulpa, police encouraging residents to stay off the streets because of downed power and lines. and this dramatic footage from inside an oklahoma city chick-fil-a friday night. terrified customers leaping through the restaurant's drive through window, to seek shelter during a storm. overnight, more severe weather roaring through the region, making recovery efforts even harder for those who lost everything in a matter of minute on this on this memorial day when we stop and pause to remember those who have given their lives in service to our country, there are also 250 uniform members of the oklahoma national guard who are splitting their time between thinking about those who have fallen, but also helping those who need the assistance now. not only to clean up here, but sandbagging for that flooding problem, specifically in and around the tulsa area. >> the chris? >> the need is great. kerry sanders, thank you for back back in japan, president trump takes the side of a dictator over a former american vice president. his own national security chief and his host. we'll go back live to tokyo for the latest. ve to tokyo for the latest it's tough to quit smoking cold turkey. so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. stop chantix and get help right away if you have changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions, seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking, or life-threatening allergic and skin reactions. decrease alcohol use. use caution driving or operating machinery. tell your doctor if you've had mental health problems. the most common side effect is nausea. talk to your doctor about chantix. rodney: when i think about what makes quality public education, i think about the important people in students' lives that's beyond the classroom. marisa: the needs that students have for emotional counseling are not being met. rosanne: students need art and music. more creative kids tend to be better problem solvers. angelia: one of the things that we're out there marching for is more counselors and more nurses. roxana: when we have those resources and that support, we're able to give students the education that they need. rodney: because we know quality public schools... roxana: make a better california... marisa: for all of us. it is it is coming up on midnight in tokyo. and president trump just wrapped up day three of a four-day visit to japan, an action-packed day. hallie jackson is there with him in tokyo. hey, hallie. >> hey, chris. good morning to you there. good evening here as the president has now wrapped up his day in tokyo. and it was as you say action-packed for sure. the president in a notable ceremony became the first world leader to meet japan's new empero this is this is a trip as white house officials told me that is all about relationships, not just the relationship between the trumps and the japanese royals here as we saw in that ceremony this morning, but critically the relationship between president trump and prime minister shinzo and abe. and while the two emphasized what was described as the unshakable bond between these two leaders and between these two countries, there was a serious point of digression when it came to those recent weapons tests by north korea. president trump downplaying them, prime minister abe not doing that. >> watch. >> north korea has tremendous economic potential like perhaps few other developing nations anywhere in the world. and i think that he is looking to develop that way. he knows with nuclear that's never going to happen. only bad can happen. he understands that. he's a very smart man. he gets it well. >> i'm joined now here in tokyo with annie carney of the new york times, sumi terry is joining us back home on the east let coast. let me start with you, when you listen to what the president had to say to prime minister abe, and i know the folks in the united states are just waking up to this, but the idea that president trump would say that north korea's weapons testing is not a violation of u.n. security council resolutions, what kind of message do you think it sends not just to prime minister abe but the rest of the world? >> talking to me first? yes, first of all, i -- >> yes. >> -- this is absolutely a point of digression here. even though prime minister abe wants to show that he's closely aligned with president trump on all issues, when it comes to north korea, they're not. prime minister abe might be all smiles, but he knows short range missiles are a direct threat to the fact the fact that president trump said this is not a threat to japan or south korea, this is a they're problem. they're not aligned on this on issue. on north korea, i think prime minister abe was lined with president trump in 2017 when we were pursuing maximum pressure. but now prime minister abe is very wary of this engagement policy, this dialogue that leaves north korea nuclear weapons and missile program in tact and ballistic missile tests are a direct threat. i think north korea i think it escalate. i think it will be a controlled escalation. believe believe me, they're going to continually ramp up this pressure and perhaps fly one over japan, maybe a medium range missile, they're going to fly over japan, maybe by the summer. so i think this is a point of -- a problem between allies. >> given that then, do you think president trump is getting played by kim jong-un? >> right now i'll say so because they're impasse, north korea is not willing to get back to the negotiation, not even talking to each other, we're reaching out, but north korea is insisting that we need to get sanctions relief with the united states is not ready to give. so, again, what i foresee, what i predict is unless we give what north koreans what they want, a big sanctions relief, they're going to dial up this pressure. and president trump, you know, maybe he has until the end of the year, but the fact he says that short range ballistic missile test is not a threat to japan, that's a problem for our >> allies. >> even as the president was talking about these missile tests, he's also seeming to side with kim jong-un on something that else. that is his potential 2020 rival joe biden. you were in the room with me at the news conference today when the president was specifically asked about this. and the criticism that he's come under for essentially not defending former american vice president on foreign soil. here is how the president responded to that. >> kim jong-un made a statement that joe biden is a he probably is based he probably is based on his i record. i think i agree with him on but that. but i can tell you that joe biden was a disaster, his administration with president obama, they were basically a >> disaster. >> so, annie, given that, what are the ramifications what is the fallout going to be and is this a sign to you of how much joe biden maybe is under president trump's skin here. >> it is a sign of how much his mind is on domestic political issues at home, even while he's and here. and for him to be talking about the 2020 race on a state visit, on foreign soil, is just something completely different. what we saw today in the press conference was really his twitter feed coming to life until today there was sort of a split screen here on twitter. he was talking -- >> tough talk. >> his mind was at home. on the ground here he was enjoying the sumo and the golf and the president. when asked about the tweets, he doubled down on the rhetoric about joe biden and it was a strange moment for him to do that abroad. >> you talk about his mind being on domestic issues. we he saw that in a series of tweets that the president put out this morning or this morning east coast time, tonight before his state banquet tokyo time, talking about impeachment, talking about democrats, the congressional oversight. clearly it is -- >> every time there was a break in the schedule, he was on twitter, tweeting about impeachment, tweting about the rolling thunder, tweeting about sports events and political events that are going on at we home. we saw where his head is at on this three-day visit that is supposed to be all about providing him a wonderful time, strengthening this relationship and every time he got a break, his mind was back home. >> the centerpiece of the trip has been the meeting with the new emperor and empress of japan. we were able to be there for the ceremony today at the imperial palace, really rare access for foreigners to have to that area. and president trump shook hands with, spoke with, had a state call, with japan's imperial talk family. talk about what that means to the japanese here because it is a significant cultural moment for not just the japanese, but for president trump who is now the first to be able to meet the new emperor who descended to the throne earlier this month. >> the japanese are hugely into symbolism. this is this is a symbolic moment. i would say honestly this is not unusual that the president of the united states would be the first foreign leader to visit and have this banquet with the new emperor. after all, united states is the number one closest ally. if not the leader of the president of the united states who else would it be? i would say in that case it is not unusual. but it is a hugely symbolic >> moment. >> we have to mention, i want to ask you about the president's upcoming travel as well. next week we're all heading to london and france for the 75th anniversary of the d-day, at at the state banquet tonight, formal event, extremely formal, you're getting buzz you wore your weddi inding dress. >> i don't own any floor length ball gowns except for my wedding i dress. i wore it. >> love that. you're going to be on the trip. >> the london visit is a state visit that has been in the works since the early days of trump's on on again/off again, theresa may had been pushing for it, she needs an ally in the brexit negotiations, now it is going to come days before she steps down from power. but this will be a very different key visit with the queen, he visited in may before but that wasn't an official state visit, something only awarded to obama and bush in the so past. so this is going to be a big deal visit. >> lots of pomp and pageantry on this one. as for this trip, thank you, annie carney and you, sumi chris, you chris, you talk about deliverables for president trump coming out of the trip. the only real delivery has been the delivery of that trophy to the sumo wrestling championship. president trump is getting ready to head home tomorrow with lots more on his plate. chris, back to you. >> i would say if there say trophy for best handling of a wardrobe crisis on an international trip, with the leader of the free world, annie carney gets it. she also gets my award for best -- unbelievable. check hallie's twitter feed, my twitter feed, it is incredible. i got to hand it to annie carney, thank you very much to both of you. back here at home, several of the 2020 contenders are on the trail this memorial day. and one is calling president trump's failure to serve in vietnam an assault on the honor of this country. and as prom and wedding season gets into full swing, you've got to see this story. the startling results of a limousine crash test. you need to know this before you get in one. his before you get in one hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? 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does it serve a political is purpose? is it effective? >> it is important to recognize that this president lied about bone spurs, and we know that because he can't tell us which foot it was on, any records of it, the fact that he continued playing sports in college. so the fact he lied about it is a problem. it didn't hit him too much you look at 2016. you look at mayor pete, and how he uses his service, it is something to contrast. so it is not a disqualifier for trump supporters, the president's pavier, b behavior, think it gives some depth to mayor pete. >> i want to play more sound from pete buttigieg responding to report iing. >> the idea of being sent to war turns you into a murderer is exactly the kind of thing that those of us who have served have been trying to beat back for more than a generation. his idea that being sent to fight makes you automatically into some kind of war criminal is a slander against veterans that could only come from somebody who never served. >> he called it slander against veterans and you may or may not agree with that, this is also somebody who went after a gold star family and got away with it. so, so, again, is there a completely different set of rules than we ever had before for military service in the -- in running for the president? >> trump certainly tried to rewrite those rules or try to at least get a lot of americans to not think very much about them. but this is where mayor pete is he strongest. he isn't strong on policy as some people would criticize him for that, but his bio is very, very strong. and i think in adding to susan's point, the fact that he is gay and the trump administration has rolled back protects against -- for the lgbtq community i think further highlights the fact that this man, mayor pete, has this really strong service record that this bio is winning for him right now and getting him a lot of support. and i think it is a direct poke at the president who, you know, with his businesses and with his military service is trying to create this sort of image of himself that really doesn't exist. >> and probably doesn't want >> and probably doesn't want a comparison to donald comparison to donald they have one they have one thing, their ability to connect, right? they have something that is not teacha >> >> right. let's think let's think about this. it is memorial day. today, pete buttigieg is remembering the people he's served with that have fallen. it is personal for him. donald trump is talking about potentially parting war criminals. there is a very there is a very stark difference >> there. >> and, ali, there are always these simultaneous efforts at play with the 2020 candidates. you have to go after trump, right, because they know that what democrats want more than anything is someone who can beat but trump. but you also do have to differentiate yourself on key issues for from other democrats and senator elizabeth warren has slowly but steadily been trying to make inroads through her policy proposals. how is that strategy seemed to be working as you're talking with voters there in iowa? >> i mean, you have to make it an argument against donald trump because all of these democrats know that that's where this race is going eventually. but right now in the immediate term they need to figure out how they can make themselves stand out when there is 20 plus other candidates vying for this job. and so for elizabeth warren, she has tried to own this, i have a plan for that lane in a similar way to the way mayor pete is owning the values candidates i lane. i asked if policy and substance was what they're looking for and if they're attaching that to elizabeth warren? the answer seems to be yes. >> i think that warren is very good with policy. she has a great history with polic she's she's extremely smart and i like the fact that she is able to break policies down in a way that everyday americans can i understand. i think we need to have a candidate who is focused on solutions and has a plan. you know, there are some candidates that kind of shied away from because they don't have any policies out there. and when people asked them questions, they don't really have much of an answer. >> look, it is really early, a lot of the voters i talked to say they're still trying to decide who to throw their support behind. but one of the things i've been hearing is that even though it is early, they're going to give the candidates the benefit of the doubt, they don't have to have all of the substance up front, but they are going to want to hear about it. as much as folks like mayor pete made the argument that democrats need to leave on values before policy, they have told me they would like him specifically because he has their attention to start filling in some of those gaps. yeah, he has it on his website, but he starts talking to voters on the trail in iowa too. >> you have this many people, you have to find your lane, you have to figure out what keeps you going past these first couple of primaries besides performing very well. this is the way that the new york times put it. miss warren has repeatedly appeared together in recent days with representative alexandria ocasio-cortez, sending an unmistakable signal she tends to pursue mr. sanders' left wing is base. is that what has to be done if you're somebody like elizabeth >> warren? >> i said this before, i don't think sanders' strongest competition is joe biden. it is elizabeth warren. to make a broader point, there is a peril for him, whether impeachment peril or the peril of not being re-elected. i think what democrats are looking for is a path forward. there are a lot of things that are scattered out there. who is going to bring that that's together? that's why elizabeth warren is trying to occupy the space of i'm going to be the policy person to give voters a policy way forward, teaming up with alexandria ocasio-cortez is about galvanizing that base and attaching policy to that. >> good it see both of you, thank you so much for coming in on memorial day. appreciate it. ali, thanks to you as well. as we approach the high season for graduations and weddings, we have an eye opening look at limo safety. why one senator is calling the industry's lack of regulation the wild west. when it comes to e sugar in your family's diet, coke, dr pepper and pepsi hear you. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance. because we know mom wants what's best. more beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. balanceus.org . at carvana, no matter what car you buy from us, you get the freedom of a 7-day return policy. this isn't some dealership test drive around the block. it's better. this is seven days to put your carvana car to the test and see if it fits your life. load it up with a week's worth of groceries. take the kiddos out for ice cream. check that it has enough wiggle room in your garage. you get the time to make sure you love it. and on the 6th day, we'll reach out and make sure everything's amazing. if so... excellent. if not, swap it out for another or return it for a refund. it's that simple. because at carvana, your car happiness is what makes us happy. this is a popular season for limousines from proms to weddings. a new nbc news exclusive investigation explores the safety of those stretch limos and the lack of regulation. nbc's gadi schwartz takes us inside a crash test that could have you thinking twice. >> reporter: once a stretch limo, now all that remain, a mangled mess of metal. this is a crash test simulation. but in july of 2015, four women were killed when their limo crashed in long island, new york. last october, a birth celebration in upstate new york turned tragic in this stretch limo accident. in all, 20 people killed including four sisters and 2 procedures. the most deadly transportation accident in the u.s. in almost a decade. but what is it that makes limo accidents especially dangerous? to show you what happens when a stretch limo like this crashes with dummies inside, we are at cape, one of the leading crash tests facilities for commercial vehicle, and this is nick, head engineer here. nick, what are we seeing today? >> looking for how the passengers fare in this test today. >> reporter: show you what he's talking about. there are passengers inside. here we go. this is one passenger. she's not wearing her seat belt. two more back here. total of five passengers in the back of the limo. engineers installing sensors and rigging cameras all over the course. even high-speed cameras to capture every frame. now, one final check inside the limo. in the control room, getting ready, too. >> 10/4. confirm brake check now. >> stand by for countdown. >> reporter: the crash seconds away. >> three -- two -- one. [ buzzer ] >> reporter: now watch as this stretch limo speeding at 35 miles per hour heads right towards that wall. whoa. look from a different angle. this is the moment the front of the limo smashes in. now it's slow motion. smoke filling the air, debris flying everywhere. >> look at all of that damage. just from 35 mimes an hour. >> that's not uncommon. obviously cars travel at higher speeds. pre-bak before impact. >> reporter: outside. take a look at the inside? >> let's look. remember a woman right here. where did she go? >> reporter: chaos on the inside. becoming a projectile. in passenger flying through the air head smashing into the roof of the limo. >> inside the limo looks like this passenger is wedged underneath the seat? >> yes. seated in the back of the limousine. clearly moved all the way to the front and somehow wedged herself underneath that cushion. >> reporter: how bad of the injuries do you think? >> a very serious have not fatal injury. >> reporter: what about the two belted passengers? this belted passenger experienced major whiplash. >> what about this passenger? >> this passenger was belted with a three-point belt but slid underneath the belt. it's not an ideal place to find yourself. >> reporter: we showed senator chuck schumer of results of the crash test. >> mayhem. she's a projectile. >> yes. >> ends up underneath the seat. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: in a three-year span, two deadly limousine accidents other kurred in the senator's home state putting a spotlight on the industry's lack of regulation. >> what's the most concerning part? >> the wild west. anybody in a garage can stretch them and for every inch you stretch them the more dangerous the limo gets. with no regulations. >> reporter: once modified, no longer regulated? >> no longer regulated. no rules about what kind of safety standard should be in those. >> when people get into limos like this, seat belts of common after thoughts? >> exactly. there aren't regulations even about those. >> would you ever let a loved one get in a limo? >> i'd be really careful about it. i'll be really worried. >> wow. nbc's gadi schwartz reporting. buckle your seat belt. coming up in minutes from now, top of the hour, vice president mike pence holds the wreath laying ceremony and make remarks at arlington national cemetery since the president is in japan honoring the fallen on this memorial day. this is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental that led to the ride ♪ which took them to the place where they discovered that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. ♪ flights, hotels, cars, activities, vacation rentals. expedia. everything you need to go. expedia. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture now might not be the best time to ask yourself are my bones strong? life is full of make or break moments. that's why it's so important to help reduce your risk of fracture with prolia®. only prolia® is proven to help strengthen and protect bones from fracture with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it or take xgeva® serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip, or tongue swelling rash; itching; or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia® as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections which could need hospitalization; skin problems; and severe bone joint, or muscle pain. are you ready? ask your doctor how prolia® can help strengthen your bones. the best way to hit the beach? with neutrogena® beach defense® sunscreen. helioplex® powered, uva, uvb strong. beach strength protection for the whole family. for the best day in the sun. neutrogena®. guv to the to see this. jaw-dropping rescue from china. in a security camera, dangling from an apartment above. rushes to put himself beneath the 2-year-old child and suddenly, check it out. the toddler falls barreling through his arms knocking him out cold. amazingly, the toddler, likely because his fall was broken, suffered no serious injuries. the quick-thinking hero, minor scratches and bruises. i do not know, craig melvin if i would have been quite so brave, but, wow. good for him. >> you would have been. >> i don't know. but, hello. happy memorial day. >> yes. good to see you. >> picking up the news for us. >> thank you, chris jansing. always good to see you. and craig melvin here. coming up this hour on "msnbc live," unshakable bond. president trump heads to japan, found time to take new shots at a potential 2020 rival. we will go live to tokyo. also ahead this morning, the president's striking back at