Plus, actions speak louder than words. Why the topics the President Trump didnt talk about last night in ohio, and to impeach or not to impeach. New polling on where the voters stand. We start with the growing concern among a number of Current White House officials and former Campaign Aides that the president could end up issuing pardons for Paul Manafort, this despite warnings to at least wait until after the midterms to do Something Like that. President trump had a fundraiser for the Ohio RepublicanParty Last Night making no mention of his formter Campaign Manager or others who have turned on him, focusing his ire on democrats instead. While democrats run down our country, they really do, they run it down, its always negative, nasty, the way they come after me. Get used to it. We won the election, were going to win again in 2020 and hopefully were going to keep winning. Were also getting new insight into the mystery safe and just how the National Inquire rer kept negative stories about the president out of its tabloid. This in light of its ceo cutting an immunity deal with the prosecutors in the Michael Cohen case. There is what a former executive said last night. This is a way the inquirer operated for a while. One of the benefits of being the owner of the company, you can publish what you want and so thats how you collect friends who want those favors and its they take care of each other and thats kind of what the situation happened with trump. Were you surprised that david pecker basically turned on donald trump and obtained an immunity agreement . No, im not at all because at the end of the day whats more important to david pecker is david pecker. Joining me now, a reporter with the hill. Com and journalist and hope of the faqnyc pod cast. You covered new york. You know all of these characters. What surprised you more . Was it the m Community Deal for david pecker, the knowledge of this safe or the immunity deal for Allen Weisselberg, the cfo of the organization and why did you choose either one. Im not surprised that Anyone Around trump chooses to protect themselves. Trump demands loyalty but doesnt inspire it. Hes a very transactional karktkarkt character. He very much wants things in exchange for Something Else real estate often revolves on those terms. New york politics very much and politics in many places interacts that way and trump has learned these lessons over years. What was surprising to me was that federal prosecutors were able to quickly to get david pecker publisher of ami to sort of come forrd what and cooperate. Usually someone in trumps position is able to offer something sort of in exchange to prevent that kind of cooperation from happening. Hes sort of dangling that kind of offer with Paul Manafort but it looks like the people who are around trump very much act like trump, keeping their own interests first and foremost and being very transactional. Hes certainly shown loyalty is a one way street and you talk about david pecker i mean, according to that former executive he said david pecker is out for david pecker first and foremost. But which one stands to do more damage in your assess mts to the president . I think peckers safe is going to be a very big sort of question mark, but i would caution, although many journalists, almost every journalist doesnt regard the National Enquirer as a real journalistic sort of enterprise, it is very cautious road to go down when prosecutors are going to a News Organization or something that purports to be a News Organization and asking them about information that they decided not to publish. I no ethe National Enquirer, its mocked. Its not a journalistic effort, but the prosecutors can show they were more in the habit of collecting information and doling it out for specific purposes they may have an easier time. But this is a slippery slope to go down. Julia, is there a sense from within the white house, that inner circle of what they fear most . Is there any way to gauge that . Yeah, i mean, i think very certainly is worry at this point and we can look at the president s rhetoric on all of this coming out. Weve seen a very frustrated rhetoric from the president. He said flipping should be illegal. Clearly frustration with Michael Cohen and with the Paul Manafort stuff weve seen that, you know, his rhetoric on manafort is much more gentler because manafort has been loyal to him. But lots of frustrated rhetoric on cohen and the recent developments around all of that, but potentially more shoes to drop. We saw that the ap reported that there was, you know, a safe of many trump stories that were clearly unflattering towards the president and possibly having to do with payment, hush money payments, so there definitely is a worry within trumps orbit about what could happen in the future and you know, this comes at an interesting time before the midterm election, so this could very neg tatively impact races that dont want to be focused on the constant scandals surrounding the president. You bring up manafort. We mentioned the pardon there. With regard to a possible manafort pardon, it says that aides expect trump to go rogue on that despite the fact that hes been counselled by many that he should not issue a pardon to him. What are the consequences if he indeed pardons Paul Manafort . There are huge political consequences with obviously establishment republicans, Congressional Democrats and democrats in general, but i dont think it will necessarily impact his base. I dont think trumps base in Many Republican voters necessarily care about this probe and you know everything thats wait, so you think even if he were to do that before the midterms that it would not have an effect on the outcome of the election at all or at least how people go to the polls . Not necessarily with his base. It could have a very huge impact on democrats and swing voters but i dont think it will impact his base if he were to do that before election but like i said, a lot f ohis language is suggesting that he likes to award loyalty and clearly he wants it seems like he wants to reward loyalty with manafort at this case, but we dont know if manafort will flip or not. He still has another trial coming up in d. C. Hes close to 70 years old. Hes facing a max 30 years from just this last virginia trial. So we have a long ways to go on that. And among the rge chas are obstruction of justice. Can we throw up the progressive set of Time Magazine covers that have suggested that this past week has left the president look at that last one all the way to your right there. The president is just drowning in the oval office. Do you think the president s feeling that . Hes made no mention of the rough week he had in the ohio speech. Is there a sense of how he feels . No, because it sort of changes moment to moment and whatever the reality is, trump has a habit of sort of projecting a more optimistic kind of view, if you will. And remember, weve seen this pattern before. Trump is advised, trump goes rogue, advisors back pedal and try to cover up. So trump being told one thing and then maybe doing Something Else is something weve seen many times before but i think the outcome of the midterm elections is really going to shape how he starts talking about what is happening around him. Okay. You guys stay where you are. Well come back and talk with both of you in just a bit. Theres another story were monitoring for you. That being senator john mccains fight against cancer. It is on going but his family stating he is ending his treatment. Hes been battling the disease for over a year now. Both his wife and his daughter sending out tweets about him along with the statement. New today from hawaii, hurricane lane has been downgraded to a Tropical Storm, but the National Weather service is warning this storm still poses a big threat for flooding through at least tomorrow. Then youve also got winds on top of that of at least 70 miles per hour. Were in maui with the very latest. A very good morning to you. Whats it looking like out there . Reporter good morning to you, alex. The rain is falling steadily, not a whole lot of wind. Officials breathed a sigh of relief when that storm was downgraded to a Tropical Storm but they warned the threat from this flash flooding especially the stuff thats already on the ground, still very real. Catastrophe in slow motion. Lane wreaking havoc even after downgraded to a Tropical Storm overnight. The storm now pounding the coast, covering hawaii in sheets of rain unleashing disastrous levels of flooding, submerging cars and destroying homes. If your home is threatened, leave the area. Reporter on the big island some areas recording nearly 3 feet of rain. Prime conditions for mud slides, prompting several rescues. And on maui, heavy winds fuelling a string of brush fires, forcing mandatory evacuations. I thought i was going to wake up to a raging flood and really high winds and high rain, but instead i woke up to a calamity of fire. We all planned for the very worst and hoped for the best and i think we are were lucky. The storm not forecasted to make direct landfall but its lingering churn may mean even worse flooding. We dodged a bullet. Doesnt mean its over. Well have rain and wind and local flooding and we need to be vigilant. And tourists trapped by the storm making the best of it. I just like seeing the winds and you know, blowing and the waves are just amazing. Its really cool. Something like youve never seen before. Very powerful. Reporter this morning residents here bracing for more heavy rain as lane lingers. On big island the National Guard being brought in to deal with the impact from all of that flooding. Storm warnings across the state expected to last throughout the day. Ill tell you, thank you very much. A little after 1 00 in the morning. Appreciate that. All this weeks immunity deals, how might Robert Mueller use them against the president if thats what he elects to do. But before the break, axios calls trumps hell week fear and fury the worst week of Donald Trumps presidency. Weve heard of black friday. This week we had orange tuesday. Look the Campaign Manager, guilty, the personal attorney guilty. The National Security advisor, cabinet meetings now are going to be held on visiting day. So Many Republicans going to jail. 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It means that these witnesses now have complete motivation to tell the government whatever they need to know and that could be i cant stress enough how rare immunity is. It is incredibly rare to get immunity from a prosecutor. Its a huge process. They have to get approval and its probably plausible denyability so they can say i cant do it. I cant get it. What theyd much rather do is have someone plead guilty and then say maybe someday down the road if you decide to cooperate well dangle a level reduction in your sentence like a carrot in front of you, but that es ooono thats only if you Razzle Dazzle us with everything you know. Immunity could blow up in a prosecutors face if that person ends up being the real doer, the real bad guy. So they only give out immunity when they really want something. A few months ago they would say cohen was the one who quote, knew where the bodies were buried. Now were saying something about weisselberg along with david pecker that there was an approval of immunity. But with regard to david pecker we can pretty much what he is being queried on. Thats on the payments to Stormy Daniels and carren mcdoug gal, the stories that ami and the National Enquirer bought and then sk squelched. Is there reason to believe that he as the cfo of the Trump Organization will be queried about that . Is it just about these payments . Thats why this is particularly interesting because if it is about cohen and if it is about the payments, that doesnt make a lot of sense because cohens already been got. Cohens already pleaded guilty. Hes no longer really of interest in terms of securing a conviction for the government. So why move on to weisselberg . It can only mean to give that grant of immunity that the information he has is so valuable it logically extends beyond payments that cohen has already testified to. Now of course the government needs corroboration, they do need someone if addition to cohen saying these payments were made. They have a tape, maybe that helps them but it doesnt make sense that they would give weisselberg immunity for just securing more of a conviction against Michael Cohen whos already been convicted. The implication is that this immunity grant is for a large body of information and all you need to do is look at Allen Weisselbergs title over the last several decades to get an inference about where thats leading. So Michael Cohen takes the plea deal admitting guilt on eight counts. Youve got Paul Manafort convicted on eight counts but i want to play for you what one of the jurors said yesterday about plea deals. Listen to this. The prosecutions star witness, rick gates, youre saying that he didnt have that much of an impact on you . No, most of us just threw that whole witness out because he had something to gain by saying what he said, and we thought that didnt make him a credible witness. We didnt like it that he took a plea deal. Look, thats the kind of thing the president s been complaining about. How do you gauge the veracity of someones testimony. Thats a decision made by the prosecutor and its a tough one because as Defense Attorneys will point out in kwloclose thae government is making a deal with the devil. They are putting on the stand and putting under oath a liar. He told you hes a liar. He is a liar. Hes a criminal, and the only reason hes here is not out of the goodness of his heart, but to get the benefit of his bargain, to get a deal and save his own skin and save his familys skin. And so sometimes that works. Other times jurors say, we dont care, we know theyre all