what he said. >> i'm surprised that there's any conflict on this. what i said is that i believe that he believes that. i believe that he feels that he and russia did not meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not, i'm with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with their leadership. i believe in our intel agencies. >> reporter: notice he says as currently constituted because he called out three former intel chiefs by name, calling a couple of them political hacks, and a third a liar. and then he took to twitter. quote, when will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. they're always playing politics, bad for our country. i want to solve north korea, syria, ukraine, terrorism, and russia can greatly help. he's continuing the theme that he's had that it's important for him to build these relationships even with authoritarian rulers because ultimately that could help getting some of the things done that he wants to get done. one more thing that is very typical for him, he went after hillary clinton, he went after barack obama, saying he's done a better job with russia. one more tweet. does the fake news media remember when crooked hillary clinton as secretary of state was begging russia to be our friend with the misspelled reset button. obama tried also but had zero chemistry with putin. under any circumstances, the geopolitics of this region, especially the end of a 12-day pretty grueling trip, extraordinarily complicated, and now with tweets and the comments, that 25-minute interview that he gave aboard air force one, taking the attention away from what his staff said he wanted to do when he came here, which is to deal with north korea and trade imbalances, jacob. >> and with a meeting scheduled with duterte. we have president trump's trip covered from every angle with former bush white house chief of staff and msnbc political analyst, andy card, boston herald reporter kimberly atkins and malona sinkofsky. president trump called three former chiefs political hacks. he implied that he believed vladimir putin when he didn't interfere with our election. how damaging do you think to the intelligence community insults like this are? >> well, first of all, he's repeating old insults that he gave prior to becoming president. i think he did recover well. he now says he has confidence in the intelligence agencies, especially because of the new leadership that he installed there. but, you know, i'm one of these people who believes that the controversy of the president stops at the water's edge when he's over seas representing all of us. i think he's actually had a pretty successful trip. i think it's a trip that was too long. he's probably really tired. i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was so tired that he wasn't cognizant of what he was tweeting when he was tweeting it. i happen to believe the russians did meddle in the elections, i have confidence in the intelligence community and i think donald trump is becoming more confident in the intelligence community as he serves in his presidency and gains more confidence because of some of the people he put in those positions. so i'm ready to give him a pass. i'm anxious for him to come home. i'm sure he's anxious to come home. he's got a lot of work to do to try to help sell the important tax cuts that are so needed to keep this economy growing and change the nature of the way our government takes its money in and hopefully changes the way they spend it. >> for those that missed it, i don't know how you could have missed it, president trump tweeted last night. why would kim jong-un insult me by calling me old when i would never call him short and fat? oh well, i try so hard to be his friend and maybe some day that will happen. here is what current white house chief of staff john kelly told reporters. they are what they are, but like you know in preparation of this trip we did the staff work, got him ready to go and in each place we brief him up on whatever the next event is and all that. the tweets don't run by life, good staff work runs it. andy, as a former chief of staff yourself, do you agree that trump's tweets are not that big of a deal? >> i tend to agree with john kelly. i think he's doing a very good job. yes, the president is exhausted, everybody traveling with the president, including chris jansing i'm sure is very exhausted. and they're anxious to get home. look, the president demonstrated self discipline for the vast majority of the trip and that was important. he stayed on message. i do think that he has created a flurry of activity around his tweets and his lack of discipline in the last few days or the last 24, 48 hours. i'd like to see him exercise more discipline. but like john kelly said, it is what it is and john kelly is doing a good job of trying to bring discipline to the whole process and get the tough work done here. basically the trip has been a success, i don't think it's been a failure. i think he did demonstrate the ability to work with other leaders and to understand that it's important to build coalitions of support and he gets high marks for what he did in south korea, he gets high marks for what he did with the japanese, he gets high marks for what he did at the meeting in vietnam. we'll see what happens in the philippines. but this is a very important trip for the president of the united states to take and i think that generally he has formed partnerships that other people are pleased to see being formed. they do talk about the common goal of trying to do something about north korea and that is critically important. at the same time, i'm anxious for him to come home to help build momentum to get the tax cuts passed. >> andy card, appreciate you being here. thank you very much. and as promised, i want to bring in the boston herald's kimberly atkins and salona. check out pat toomey's answer if russia had been punished enough. >> so my answer is no. i think you've seen that the senate has responded, for instance, our insistence on tougher sanctions against russia and a congressional review mechanism to make it a little more difficult for this president or any president to unilaterally lift those sanctions. no, i think we have to raise the cost to putin for the outrageous behavior he's committed. >> here is what president trump said last night about russia. watch this. >> people don't realize, russia has very, very heavily sanctioned. they were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. it's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken. >> okay. so you have a republican senator saying putin has not been punished enough, republican president saying russia has been punished severely. how do you reconcile the differences here? >> at the end of the day i am hearing from lawmakers and people on both side of the aisle there is a deep, deep concern not just in what russia did in 2016 but the likelihood that they will continue to do it next year in the midterms and the elections in 2020 and moving forward. and they really want to find a way to prevent russia from doing that. now, we have the ongoing investigations both by congressional committees and by special counsel bob mueller's office that will help us get to the bottom of the extent of russia interfering with the election, but i think at this point they want to move beyond the conclusion that the intel communities, both past leaders and the current community said russia did this and we need to figure out a clear and concisive response to it. >> since we always ask you about russia, i'm going to ask you a different question. >> thank you. >> let's look ahead to trump's meeting with rodrigo dutuerte. >> i think this is something that i often have called strong men envy. when people ask why donald trump refuses to criticize like vladimir putin you see the same thing with rodriggo duterte, he likes the type of leadership that is more authoritarian and i think that very much our president wishes that he could have that kind of absolute rule. you even look at his tweets from the other week after the terrorist incident here in new york calling for the death penalty before a trial had even taken place, which is inappropriate for the president to weigh in in that way. and so, you know, i think that all of this is indicative, even these tweets and the conversation that the president said he had with vladimir putin about election meddling of the kind of leadership and the kind of power that he believes should be valid in the united states. our political system just doesn't work that way. >> kimberly, let me ask you about another strong man, kim jong-un, and president trump's just bizarre tweet with him last night. what surprised you more, president's apparent outrage over being called old and really just about being called old, not crazy, or the asser takes that he's trying to be kim's friend or the fact that he tweeted about it at all? >> when the president for a long time remains on message, stays on the teleprompter as he has for the majority of this trip in asia, i'm told by numerous people that sometimes he gets very frustrated with that. he prefers to be off the cuff. he prefers to speak his mind. one way that you will see the reaction to that is often on twitter. it seems to me that that's the result of that. that you can believe that although he was very scripted during this trip, he was upset by that comment and he wanted to let them know that on twitter, so it's not -- it's pretty much par for the course of the way we've seen the president react going forward. of course it's always a little unnerving to some when we're seeing these verbal spats between two people who have control of nuclear weapons and knowing that this could escalate to a really unfortunate situation. >> okay, now i'm going to ask you about russia. there has been a bit of a media war between the u.s. and russia. the u.s. is forcing rt to register as a foreign agent and russia is retaliating against cnn. what do you think are the implications of this dispute? >> i don't think there's anything wrong with making foreign organizations apply as a foreign agent as long as you apply that across the board. let's not forget this is a world war ii era law. this is also an instance where russia is following through on the promise that they made, right, which is essentially that if any steps are taken against rt here in the united states, then there will be some type of blowback on russia's part. so it's unfortunate because we need more reporting in russia, we need more information about what's happening in russia, and i think especially by foreign outlets to educate the people in the united states. when there's so much at stake and we're talking about really heavy foreign policy decisions, we need to know what's going on there. and so any kind of loss for the press, which is already obviously under incredible attack there and very constricted within a country like russia is a huge loss. >> all right, thank you so much to both of you. now to some breaking news we're following in the middle east where a major earthquake has rocked a region along the iran/iraq border. it was a 7.2 magnitude quake. we have not yet received reports of major damage or any deaths at this point but that could change. we'll bring you more information on this as it becomes available. we'll be right back. am. 40 milli americans are waking up to a gillette shave. and at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get. to to me he's, well, dad.son pro golfer. so when his joint pain from psoriatic arthritis got really bad, it scared me. and what could that pain mean? 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>> it would be a very dangerous precedent for any of us, for any person in this country, to just be cast aside as guilty because of press reports. >> do you believe leigh corfman? >> i don't know leigh corfman. i believe that both sides are alleging different things. >> nbc's vaughn hilliard is live for us in birmingham where he's been following this story. a month ago before this election, your hearing a lot from alabamans. what's the latest? >> reporter: we're suddenly having a conversation where there could be real political ramifications coming from these allegations against roy moore. doug jones is the democrat running in this race. he's a former u.s. attorney here in the state. he's running an interesting campaign. it's one that is not going after donald trump, it's not going after the white house. he's been meeting with educators, doctors. there are no public event on the schedule right now. that's why you have not heard much from doug jones coming from these allegations. it's interesting to be a democrat running in this race. can he actually break in and win over republicans in this state. hillary clinton won just two of the 18 most populated counties here, but could there actually be an opportunity for doug jones? this is connie thomas. he's never voted for a democrat in her life but this is what she just told me a bit ago. >> i see a lot of doug jones signs around that i'm really surprised in neighborhoods that i've never seen a democrat sign in before. and talking to people, people are fed up and sad and disheartened. >> reporter: so the conversation is could potentially republicans either stay home. i talked with another woman who told me she can't with a clean conscience, she should, vote for either doug jones or for roy moore, which leads to how could this all turn out. could there be a write-in candidacy for luther strange or write-ins for individual republicans that don't even -- haven't announced an official candidacy but are unwilling to vote for a democrat or roy moore. those are the questions. we're one month away, exactly one month from today, and suddenly where we're at as a result of these allegations. >> seeing democratic signs in republican neighborhoods, that is quite interesting to hear. vaughn hilliard will stay on this. thank you, sir. let's bring in our panel. joy sevance and midwin charles. joyce, i want to start with you, you're a former prosecutor. your husband ran against moore for chief justice and lost. what do you make of these allegations? >> all of this talk to voters should act like a criminal jury and decide whether roy moore is guilty strikes me as sillily. we reserve that standard of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt for times when we take away the liberty of our citizens. alabama voters are being asked to decide if he's fit to represent them in the united states senate, and "the washington post" story presents pretty compelling evidence, one woman who told her story close in time to when the allegations occurred to numerous people, backed up by three other women, young women at the time that they knew moore, backed up by 30 witnesses, now backed up by a former d.a. who worked with moore in etowah county who said everyone knew he was hanging out at shopping malls and high school games. he had a penchant for young girls and they thought it was really weird. these have a ring of truth to a prosecutor's ears. >> tell us about what rights moore's accusers have today and what legal advice do you assume moore is getting? >> well, you know, i'm not particularly quite sure what it is that these women -- whether they have rights at this point, but i will say this. roy moore, of course, like anybody who was alleged to be in violation of the law has the right to an attorney, he has the right to remain silent. of course these women if they perhaps want to pursue civil claims against them, i don't know if they are time barred, i'm going to assume they are. one of the most important things that we must remember is we are talking about very, very serious allegations against roy moore, a man who wants to be a member of the united states senate. we're not talking about a man who is accused of stealing candy from a 14-year-old. we're not talking about a man who is accused of stealing lunch from a 14-year-old. we are talking about a man who was accused of inappropriate sexual behavior with a young woman, which on the law, in the books is called statutory rape. so this is very, very, very serious. and whether he's guilty of that or not really isn't the issue at this point. the issue is we're talking about a man who is alleged to have engaged in very, very serious, dangerous behavior and this is not the kind of person that we want in the united states senate. >> republican senator tim scott today joined calls actually for moore to step aside. let's all take a look at what he and democratic senator amy klobuchar said. >> certainly the allegations are very, very strong. the denial is not as strong as the allegations. i think if the allegations are true, there's no doubt that he should step aside. >> no doubt that he should step aside. >> do you believe the senate has a duty to seat him? >> we may not have much choice on that, but we do have a choice on something else and that is that you can expel a senator once they're in with two-thirds of the vote after the ethics committee has as happened in the past does an investigation. >> yesterday, joyce, moore took a page out of the donald trump playbook and blamed the media. is that something that you get the sense is working with alabamans? >> we see a poll this morning that indicates that many of moore's supporters have doubled down and increased their support for him while others are becoming increasingly skeptical. the real problem here is we tell victims we'll support you if it's true. vulnerable 14-year-old girls strongly suspect that no one will believe them. this week it feels in alabama like roy moore and the republican party have confirmed that. whether that will be enough to persuade people to vote for doug jones or to stay home from the polls on december 12th, i think is still up in the air. >> well said. joyce vance, midwin charles, thank you both so much for being here on this sunday. appreciate it. coming up, president trump one year later, despite his divisive comments on the campaign trail, more than a quarter of latinos still supported trump's bid for the oval office. how do those voters hear about the administration today? 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[ speaking spanish ] so last week i went back on jesus' show to see how things have changed. >> jacob soboroff. >> you got it 100% correct. >> a year after donald trump was elected president of the united states, are you still happy with the way that you voted and the way that he's doing? >> yes. especially in the economy. the economy is growing. we are growing now 3.1%. >> that surprised me most last time was so many of your listeners called in and said to me, it doesn't matter that i'm latino, it doesn't matter that donald trump has insulted so many members of my race. i want to know a year later since all of this, do your listeners feel the same way? >> we'll open the lines. >> let's do it. >> marco -- [ speaking spanish ] >> i feel way, way, way better with this president than before he was president, so i will vote for him again and probably for his family if they run for president after 2020. >> a latino voter, nothing that donald trump has done, including ending daca, going forward with building the wall prototypes? >> wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. that's the problem, that's the problem. he didn't ending daca. daca was over by prabarack obam. he didn't renew it. that's way different, brother. [ speaking spanish ] >> my name is louis. i'm a mexican-born man. i came here when i was 4. enough is enough. enough of the political correctness. enough of everybody gets coddled. enough of the establishment. >> buenos dias. i voted for donald trump. at this point in my life i am not sorry that i did it. actually i am very proud of donald trump to be my president. i want to ask why these people in the media, regular media, is always talking about corruption of donald trump with russia. excuse me. it's all over the internet, all over the cable channels that the actual corruption with russia was hillary clinton. so excuse me, that is collusion. that is the problem. >> thank you very much. >> what's it going to take, jesus, for people to change their mind that supported donald trump in 2016? >> if something comes out and proves that he did something illegal, of course i'm not going to support any of that. >> but for the time being? >> he's good. >> to dig a little deeper on this, let's bring in our panel. julian epstein, republican strategist robert o'brien. thanks so much for being here. robert, let me first go to you. we heard those callers talk about daca. let's be honest, it could have been extended by the trump administration. the uranium scandal debunked. what's your take on what you heard? >> i think the take is latinos are the same as other american voters. they want good jobs, they want a strong economy, they want excellent schools for their kids and they want to be able to buy a home. so far they're watching donald trump bring manufacturing back to america, they're seeing the stock market do very well, they're seeing gdp growth that's very strong and so i think there's a reflection of those economic indicators in the support that he's receiving in the hispanic community and also across america. the goal of the gop is to make that outreach to latinas and latinos and hispanic americans and get the support up from 30% to 50 or 55%. >> julian, let me go to you because last hour i spoke with representative al green and asked him should democrats be reaching out to these folks or just trying to turn out more voters this time around like we saw in that blue wave that happened on tuesday. is it worthwhile for democrats to spend time and energy trying to reach folks like this? >> yes. i just said to your other guest i don't know what planet he's living on. hispanic voters have been voting for democrats by 2-1 as much as 70%. so, yes, hispanic voters are like the rest of the country. two-thirds of the country thinks this president is doing a lousy job and doesn't believe this president. so the surprise there in your interview, and the guy that you were interviewing, the radio host is a very conservative radio host. >> and he was an advisor to the donald trump campaign. he sat on his national hispanic advisory council. >> and his listener base is very conservative and republicans have had about 3 in 10, 30% of hispanics voting either because of evangelical leanings or conservative economic leanings. but that does not reflect where hispanics are. 7 out of 10 are voting democrats. you put that together with the fact that over 90% of african-americans are voting democrat and look at what happened on tuesday. on tuesday you had republicans using a blatantly demagoguic, ethno-nationalist, anti-hispanic vote in virginia. particularly women are turning off to this brand of politics. they find it repugnant. this brand is not working, it's not working with hispanics, it's not working with millenials, it's not working with african-americans, and now what we're seeing in the wave that happened on tuesday, not just in virginia, in new jersey, in washington state and all the polling is showing that college educated whites are turned off to this kind of ethno-nationalist demagoguery, they don't like it, find it anti-american, unpatriotic, and if this trend continues and even if the hispanic votes stay at the same level it is right now, which is 7 in 10, then it's going to be a wipeout in 2018 elections. your guest representing the republican point of view should be doing what they were doing in 2012 saying there is something wrong here. george bush got 44% of the hispanic vote and republicans are now getting 30%. so the existing status for republicans in terms of the hispanic support is horrible and your guest ought to be saying, wow, we need an autopsy the way we did in 2012 to figure out why we're not getting more hispanic votes and why college educated whites are turning away from me in droves. >> robert, let me get your take here. i hear julian saying you are sticking with the trump playbook where you should be pivoting away from these folks who represent a very loud and vocal minori minority. >> this is the identity politics that hillary clinton ran on and lost on. and i heard people like julian give these sort of comments, we'll put together x number of hispanics and x number of african-americans and then that way we'll win and we don't have to reach out to voters across the board. listen, what republicans need to do is have an economic message of empowerment for everyone. we've got to shun this identity politics. we've got to make sure that hispanic americans, african-americans, working class whites understand with lower taxes, lower regulation, people are going to have jobs, they'll be able to buy homes, they'll be able to send their kids to good schools. that's what all americans want. this idea that we can slice and dice the electorate and call people -- slice and dice the electorate and call people we disagree with ethnonationalists or racist, that's not american. my republican party and my message is that we have an outreach to everybody. a lot of these people, hispanic americans left countries that were socialist, that were highly authoritarian, that were heavily regulated. they came here because they wanted the american dream. that's what the gop is offering. we need to do a better job of -- >> that's an incredible flipping of the script. it is the republicans that played the race card. everybody -- every national commentator, every national observer that looked at the virginia election said it was the republicans by going after -- by using this falseness of sanctuary cities that don't exist in virginia -- >> that ad was despicable and that was a democrat ad. >> let me finish the ad. it was the republicans that made it an ethno-nationalist campaign and they lost. >> did you support the ad? >> let me start both of you here. give me one second here, i'm going to stop both of you. robert, i'm going to come to you very specifically. you talked about there's no ethno-nationalism, no racism. charlottesville was both of those things. the radio host on this program said he wouldn't bail on president trump unless he committed a crime, even if the russia collusion proves true. why does that not matter to these voters? and do you think they'll be able to put together another winning coalition again? >> i think what people wanting, they want a good job, they want good schools, they want to buy their home and have a growing economy with manufacturing and good jobs coming back to america. and that's the republican message. and look, there's been a lot of talk in the media with russian collusion, this and that. we know -- we don't know for sure but mueller may be investigating the uranium one situation and the millions of dollars that the clinton foundation took from russians. you know, we'll have to see what happens with the mueller investigation. i think mr. mueller should conduct his investigation. i think the leaks from that investigation should stop and we should find out what the special prosecutor has to say. >> julian. >> these are wonderful talking points. the campaign in virginia was a blatant appeal to race. it was a willie horton ad. the republicans in congress have accomplished absolutely nothing. this president has accomplished absolutely nothing in terms of any major economic reform. white voters are deserting the republican party as we saw on tuesday. this is a republican -- this is a president who is under criminal investigation in a russia -- on the russia matter and criminal investigation that is getting worse. his republican allies in the senate in quantities of 10, 12, 15 members of the senate are deserting him on one issue or another, whether it's taxes, whethers the russia investigation. your guest here representing the republican point of view is whistling past the graveyard if he doesn't see the cratering of support that is happening in communities across america because they don't like the brand of trump politics. if he doesn't see the cratering of support that is occurring on capitol hill with republican senators openly rebuking the president for his behavior, his tweets, his policies which are going nowhere -- >> it sounds like october 2016. those same talking points that ended in hillary clinton going back home to new york. >> all right, guys. thank you very much. robert, appreciate it very much. maybe you guys can continue this offline. this sounds like being on twitter. still ahead, the rush for tax reform. once he completes his trip to asia, the president will return of trying to pass a tax plan before year's end. we'll take a closer look at what's at stake. stay with me, mr. parker. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time... stay with me, mr. parker. ...saving time when it matters most. stay with me, mrs. parker. that's the power of and. president trump wrapping up his marathon tour of asia but also facing fire over his record on the environment. critics like sheldon whitehouse brand the president's new pick for the top environmental advisor as a climate change skeptic. they accuse kathleen hartnett of rejecting basic science. meanwhile at the conference on climate change in germany, the official u.s. delegation will present its first talk tomorrow. the event promoting the use of fossil fuels. joining me katherine lampell and jake levine. jake, let me start with you. normally the united states is a leader at the environmental conference. this year's top 23 tells a very different story. it's a shadow delegation basically. what's going on out there? >> i'm holding back some laughter, jacob, because were this not real life and not hugely important and serious and bearing on matters of public health and clean air and clean water, it would feel like a "saturday night live" skit going on with, you know, a recent appointment that really completes the trifecta of climate deniers who are now leading the agencies that are charged with solving climate change. so thankfully we do have what has been called a shadow american presence that's being led by folks like governor jerry brown from california, mike bloomberg from new york, jay ensley in washington, folks that have stepped up to the plate to bring things from their municipal jurisdictions and say we're still into this agreement and we're going to press forward, notwithstanding the abdication we've seen on this issue from the trump administration. >> katherine, let me take a look -- let's all of us take a look of president trump's nominee, kathleen hartnett. watch this. >> do you think if the ocean warms, does it expand? does the law of thermal expansion apply to sea water? >> again, i do not have any kind of expertise or even much layman's study of the ocean dynamics and the climate change issues. >> so, the question was does the law of thermal expansion apply to sea water. her response was, again, i do not have any kind of expertise or even layman's study of the ocean's dynamic and the climate. this is for trump's -- one of his top environmental advisers. what does this say about the president's leadership? >> it says that the president has no interest whatsoever in employing experts of any kind. even meeting the very lowest bar of what expertise would constitute. this administration has come into office and said, you know what, we don't care about experts who know anything about science, who know anything about economics, who know anything about really any subject on earth in which expertise would be useful for crafting well designed public policy. they are all about giving more influence to corporate interests and to those who might otherwise stand to benefit from the public policies that they are creating. >> al gore recently said he hasn't spoken with donald trump since the decision to withdraw from the paris climate accord. he said i tried my best and thought he'd come to his senses but i've been proven wrong. i don't feel i have the ability to change his mind. he surrounded himself with the absolute worst climate deniers who seem to have captured his mind on the issue. i think he calls them a rogue's gallery. do you with him? 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