Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live 20170722 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live 20170722

So Reince Priebus, who is the chief of staff, has long talked about as being out and in and out and yet he has hung on. Today the white house said that he is having lunch with the president out at his Virginia Trump National golf club with the treasury secretary and other top policy and speech writing aide steven miller. And so that to me is a signal that the white house wants to show that the relationship between the president and the chief of staff on a saturday afternoon is good enough that they are having a meeting and sharing a meal together. So there is nothing that we expect in terms of additional changes. However, Anthony Scaramucci, the new Communications Director did say he needs a chance to assess his team and we dont know if hell bring in some associates of his. He has not been in a Political Communications role before or if he will keep a number of the staffers who worked under sean spicer. Many came from the rnc. That is why Reince Priebus has been chairman. There is deaf nately a priebusspicer imprint and well see if there is additional changes. The rumors have long been swirling about changes, whether it is steve bannon or priebus and to this point they are hanging on. Richard. Kelly, one part of is this is scaramucci and what is the reaction to him as he stlood and were showing stood there and showing his first interface, not an easy group to keep in line. He seemed very calm. And hes a confident personality. He had been a host on a business show for a period of time. He is a selfmade billionaire who built Many Companies who is a confident person who has a Good Relationship with the president and that is currency in this white house. He has been friendly with Reince Priebus. He had them being like brothers and sparring with each other and Reince Priebus has done the circuit on television trying to explain these changes. He had been reported to be against this move and then coming out and saying he is 100 behind it so. We have a clip of Reince Priebus talking about what these changes mean for the white house. It is a good day for President Trump. To get a person in that calms and that he believes in and sometimes a fresh start is a good thing. Sean did a great job and he is a dear friend as everybody knows. But it is good to start fresh. And so sean gets to start fresh, anthony gets to start fresh and most importantly, the president gets to start fresh and i think that is a good thing. And richard, we heard that the president had been frustrated that there werent enough people voicing support for the president. His agenda and speaking in his voice, if you will. So when we watch Anthony Scaramucci you really saw him speaking directly to the president , directly about the president , professing his love and admiration for the president , things that would probably play well in the oval office and the residence here at the white house. So it is a new clock that is starting for the Trump Administration to see if they can organize themselves in a different way, especially in the face of these investigations, and the challenges with health care and all of those still to be sorted out problems dealing even with a republican congress. So it is a tall order and now there is at least the start of a new team in place. Kelly, what does this mean in terms of from your perspective here, reporting at the white house and on the hill for so many years, what is the new skill that scaramucci brings into the white house and what skill does he lose by sean spicer now stepping aside . Are they preparing for what might be a tough bunch of weeks to come . Well one of the things with sean spicer is that he had been a Communications Professional in politics for a very long time and so most of the reporters who covered washington politics for any period of time had a preexisting relationship with sean spicer. So there is a level of trust there and a relationship there. That is something that had value. And then spicer hit some road blocks and stumbles with some of the mistakes that i think he would acknowledge he made. And questions about his credibility. Now youve got scaramucci who is probably greatest strength is his own comfort in front of the camera and his relationship with the president. But he does not have longstanding relationships with as many as of the journalists and hell need to build those relationships and because he has not run a press Communications Operation before, certainly built businesses and dealt with staff and all of those kinds of things, but understanding sort of the interaction that goes on daytoday between any government entity, whether it is a governor or Senate Office or the white house and the working reporters who cover it. There are norms of how things are done. Spicer was of that mold. This is a new day and well see how it goes. Well see how it goes. So well said as always. Kelly thank you. Kelly odonnell at the white house. Next week, the russia investigation will take a big turn. Soninlaw Jared Kushner will be interviewed by the senate and House Intelligence Committee and don jr. And Paul Manafort will be interviewed. We dont know the date of that as of yet. But they will answer questions and provide documents. They will not testify in public, at least not yet. But a Big Development to watch out for in just the last few days, the president has been taking aim at special counsel Robert Mueller. Trump told the New York Times if he looks into his personal finances as he he is, that mueller would be crossing a line. That is in the New York Times and then the president today touting almost bragging on twitter about his pardoning powers. This all leading to remarkable moment last night. Two former intelligence chiefs blasted the president over russia with very candity comments at a security conference in saaspen. Take a listen. I wonder, if were making russia great again. I think russia is a threat to this country. If he is fired by mr. Trump or attempted to by fired by mr. Trump, i hope that members of congress or elected representatives will stand up and say enough is enough. It is the obligation to refuse to carry out some of the orders that are inconsistent with what this country is all about. Also there at that forum, nbcs National Security reporter ken delanie there in aspen. And ken, if you could read minds, if there were thought bubbles sitting out there in the audience when those two statements came out, did they really say that, were they really that candid, if you will, speaking to wolf blitzer there from cnn. But that happens when you are on panels sometimes. Richard, i think there was reaction of amazement and also agreement here at this National Security conference. Among both republicans and democrats. Those men, john brennan and James Clapper were articulating a view ive heard privately from all quarters here. Maybe not in such stark terms. And people may say of course president obamas former security will criticize President Trump. S in not normal. It is rather unprecedented. For a 50 year career intelligence employee like James Clapper that served republicans and democrats. There is deep disquiet about where the investigation is going and about trumps behavior toward vladimir putin. And brennon lamentented that it was an honor to meet putin. And he said this is a man who hacked and meddled in our oelection so why is it an honor to meet him. So a lot of angst here. And on friday, the Washington Post coming out from current and former Officials Saying that attorney general sessions did, indeed, speak with russian official about the campaign and potential policy movements or views from Donald Trumps inner circle. What do we know about that . That is right. This is a story that is brewing for a while, richard. Nbc news reporting a while back that there were some questions about whether Jeff Sessions had an additional meeting that he hadnt disclosed at the may flower hotel with kislyak but there are now intercepts that suggests that kislyak told his bosses in moscow that he had subsequent meetings with Jeff Sessions around the Republican National conventions. Sessions denies that he had these conversations an the fact that kislyak told his bosses in moscow that he did doesnt prove that it happened but it is a Significant Development and puts more pressure on Jeff Sessions to show that, in fact, he wasnt colluding with the Russian Ambassador during this time. And ken, lets move to another branch of government, the house and senate have agreed upon sanctions for russia and stiffer in view and in practice than the white house. Yeah, this is brewing for sometime. And today we learn there is an agreement and a vote next week. This is a Big Development. Because this would bind Donald Trumps hands. It would make it much more difficult for him to withdraw the sanctions that the Obama Administration put in place to punish russia for that Election Hacking and some other sanctions involving russia seizure of crimea and impose additional sanctions and now donald trump is facing the prospect of does he veto this bill that he doesnt like or allow it to become law and it is a break between those in congress and the president on russia. Ken delanie there in aspen, colorado, at a security forum. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Lets bring in vivian solano, and also sub saban with the daily beast. Thank you both for being here. Vivian, ill start with you on this and lets reflect on what ken is reporting and what he was describing for us and that is just within the last 24 hours these developments, one of which is the Washington Post reporting and the development of Financial Disclosures coming from Jared Kushner and ivanka trump which both indicate what may be involving the russia connection question. That is right. So you have this basically realm that now the investigation is starting to swirl around finances and we saw earlier this week where Robert Mueller may be investigating the president s finances, something that he has voiced concern about, that in the New York Times interview that was published this week made clear that he was not feeling comfortable with, that that sort of crossed a red line for him in terms of what Robert Muellers tasks at hand are and where his legitimately allowed to investigate and it is a major issue for the president and a major concern and that goes for his family members as well. They this is a president that used to very strictly adhere to confidentiality and had people sign nondisclosure agreements when it came to his business dealings and so this is definitely making him very unhesy and it is no doubt that he unleashed this morning on twitter asserting his ability, his president ial powers if you will, because he feels that at this point it is getting a little bit too close for comfort, getting into a realm that he does not feel comfortable with. And so that is obviously manifesting itself in his tweets this morning. Clearly. It appears as you look as what is also happening, it is negotiation and readjustment of donald trump jr. And Paul Manafort appearing again in front of the investigations that are happening on the hill. All of this happening again in a very short amount of time. Is the appearance there of that that the white house is notching up, if you will, reaction to the Mueller Investigation . Well, the president tweeting out and floating in the New York Times interview from a few days ago that maybe i will fire mueller, that is a paraphrase of course, is classic trump. He is operating in the mind of still being a business man. Where if he were running his business out of trump tower, sacking a guy like mueller or the equivalent of that in his business wouldnt really be a problem. But the situation here is that trump is dealing with the story that he hates the most. There is nothing that he hates talking about and reading about or watching on tv less than the russia story and the russia investigation. As i and my colleague lock lynn mckay have reported he literally yells at the tv when he sees coverage regarding the russia scandals, that he disagrees with and that he vehemently despises. And as you were saying earlier, these stories regarding team trump and the russian government seem to be coming at a very fast clip. And there is still the feeling that there are many shoes left to drop. And the white house is continuing to say that there is no fire, where there is a heck of a lot of smoke. And has the yelling increases, do you think, vivian . As we are saying here, has it increased just within the latter part of last week . If with you put those together, it seems like the white house based on reporting and in terms of the actions, that the white house could be a little bit more nervous. Absolutely. And it is showing in so many different ways. The resignation of sean spicer while it doesnt have anything directly to do with the russia investigation, it is all sort of product of this interest to really shift gears in this white house. And a lot of that is rooted in the russia investigation. And their inability to just completely get that narrative to go away. To stop leading headlines and driving so much of the story that is looked at in this white house within only the first six months, and so there is definitely a nervousness with the president himself when the president was going to france last week, i was on Board Air Force one where he briefed journalists for an hour and a half and he really wanted to just completely set this issue aside. Hes obviously always been very adamant about the fact that there was no collusion, that hes never colluded with the russians, he definitely wants to put away any narrative around don jr. Having done something inappropriate, so hes obviously very concerned about it, but the new emergence of the financial concerns and anything that has to do with his finances is definitely just getting under his skin in a new way we havent seen before. And his tax returns may be involved in this and the bloomberg reporting that potentially up to ten years of this financial background is now in the sights of mueller. So you have mueller who he may want to fire and you have sessions who is in big question right now, with scaramucci brought in, are they getting ready here, oswin for a major move potentially and he needs to have Different Team ready . A White House Communications team shakeup has been something that the president has been weighing and wanting to execute on and off again for months now. Basically since the dawn of his pressy press presidency or shortly after it started. But the president could bring in as much backup oren forcement with regards to the communication strategy and outside legal team but at the end of the day you still have a President Trump who will regularly and without thinking twice about it under cut his own senior staff and white house messaging, whether on twitter or in interviews with the New York Times or Washington Post or on tv. So this is a white house that at the senior ranks does understand that the president could call in as many reinforcements as we wanted but at the end of the day, trump is going to be trump. Thank you so much. Thank you both very much. Have a good saturday. Thanks. Thank you. What is next, the Health Care Battle. Yes, that is still happening. The republicans again suffering a major setback in the quest to repeal and replace obamacare. But that doesnt mean the fight is over. What republicans plan to do next. The opioid my doctor prescribed for my chronic back pain backed me up big time. Before movantik, i tried to treat it myself. No go. But i didnt back down. I talked to my doctor. She said one, movantik was specifically designed for opioidinduced constipation oic. Number two . With my savings card, i can get movantik for about the same price as the other things i tried. Dont take movantik if you have or had a bowel blockage. 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