Occasion regarding russian involvement. President putin denied such involvement as i think he has in the past. The two leaders agreed though this is a substantial hindrance and the ability of us to move the russianu. S. Relationship forward and agreed to exchange further work regarding commitments of noninterference. The kremlin moving quickly to put out a different story. Tillersons counterpart saying President Trump accepted putins denial about hacking the election. Follow that up with a white house denial saying that is just not true. Who is telling the truth . Only six people in that room, they know for sure. The day started with a handshake and moments before the two leaders had the press escorted out of the room, President Trump had this to say. President putin and i have been discussing various things. I think its going very well. Weve had some very, very good talks. Were going to have a talk now and that will continue. We look forward to a lot of positive things happening. The meeting lasted a lot longer than expected. Scheduled for half an hour. Going on for 2 16. Heres more of secretary tillersons take on it. The two leaders, i would say connected very quickly. There was a clear positive chemistry between the two. There was not a lot of relitigating of the past. I think both of the leaders feel like theres a lot of things in the past that were unhappy about. Were unhappy. Theyre unhappy. I think the perspective of both of them is this is a really important relationship. Two Largest Nuclear powers in the world. Its a really important relationship. How do we start making this work. All of this happening as another day of violence broke out in the streets of hamburg. Reporter you can see it. Thats in my eyes and my throat. Lets go. Lets go. These guys are not giving up. We have much more on that to come. Lets go to nbc Hallie Jackson who is in hamburg for us tonight. One big question was answered the trump did speak to putin about election hacking. They brought it up first. Both sides agree to that. The rest of it, the conflicting stories, what can you add . Reporter both sides acknowledge this issue came up. The idea that russia interfered in the election. Thats one of the the, if not the trillion dollar question. Will the president bring it up despite a day ago refusing to say whether moscow did meddle with the 2016 election. Now we know the president brought it up. Both sides are saying it happened in different ways. You have heard the russian minister say that President Trump accepted Vladmir Putins denial that russia was behind that. One said that is not accurate. There was no acceptance of the denial. I think this goes to the kind of diplomatic dance that youre seeing. With so few people in the room, the potential for leaks is pretty low given it was both president s, their top diplomats and two translaters. Each side is delivering the story that they want people to hear. To cast the conversation in the lieg light that showcases what each country believes is their strength. Denying that the president accepted the denial. Notab notably, i think and you played it a bit there. Secretary tillerson saying he, meaning the president wants to find way forward with russia. Look to area where is they have Common Ground like, for example, syria casting that as the first indication of these two countries being able to come together when you look at the ceasefire said to go into effect on sunday. Hallie jackson covering the president for us. Thank you so much. President trump has down played russias involvement in the hacking even as recently as yesterday. Here is the question today. Can you say in the president was unequivocal in his view that russia did interfere in the election . Did he offer to produce any evidence or to convince mr. Putin . The russians have asked for proof and evidence. Ill leave that to the Intelligence Community to address the answer to that question. Again, i think the president , at this point, he pressed him and then felt like at this point lets talk a bt hbout how do we forward. Always good to talk to you. Im so curious to hear your take. That president putin and russia hacked to influence our election. Tillerson kind of skirting the question. Whats your take . Is this no more than when he see in a normal situation . Theyve got their spin and weve got our spin. Its fairly normal, to tell you the truth. What happens in these meetings depends on how something is said and how its heard. We wont know precisely what happened until we get a little more granularity on that. The fact that it was portrayed that trump accepted putins denial is not surprising. Hes probably doing that for a domestic audience and not to put too fine a point on it, the russians are not above dissembling after a meeting like this. It depends on how trump said it too. Im not surprised. I will say this though, if trump based solely on what tillerson said, if thats all we ever know, its fair to give the president a little credit here for engaging on the issue and starting a dialogue on it. If he said this is a problem between us lets move forward. Thats one thing. If he said, look, this is a problem that is very serious for the United States. We cannot move forward until we have satisfaction on this. It can be an obstacle. We need to look for ways to cooperate. A lot depends on how it was said and how it was heard. Its not as though there were cameras. We dont know. We do know that hes no newcomer to all of this. He has a lot more experience than the two americans in the room. He said certain circles in the u. S. Are still exaggerating by which i assume he means the Intelligence Community and he added although they cannot prove this. Secretary tillerson pointed to the intelligence agencies on providing evidence. Is that how that would typically work . It often happens with the russians. Ive been involved in this three or four times. When you have an objection to something they have done, they will ask to see the intelligence to have you prove it. You will provide them what you know up to a point. Youll say this is what you learned from our intelligence. They will deny what you have given them is real proof. I dont think this issue will be resolved on that basis. It takes continuous engagement. Secretary kerry was very frustrated in his efforts to have some arrangement. Always good to talk to you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Theres this big question still out there. Is President Trump planning to punish russia for hacking the u. S. Tillerson saying this about the state of relations. The president took note of actions that have been discussed by the congress, most recently additional sanctions that have been voted out of the senate to make it clear as to the seriousness of the issue. Its not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations. The question is what do we do now . I think the relationship and the president made this year as well, is too important. Always good to see both of you. Interpret that statement we just heard from Rex Tillerson for me. Probably no agreed upon resolution. The relationship is too important. What did you hear . Well, i heard that he was missing the point because the point on the sanctions for the Congress First and foremost is to make sure that they codify that they put in legislation, in law the sanctions that president obama put in place by executive order in order to basically assert ukraine sovereignty. Those sanctions were mainly about ukraine. There were some additional sanctions they put on that were also aimed at punishing russia for their Information Operation against the United States which i suspect is very much still ongoing. This idea of putting it behind us is a bit of a fantasy as well. If its ongoing you cant really put it behind you. By wide majority which is pending for the house to take action on, that law, that piece of legislation, which is not yet law, is addressed at punishing russia for what they did in the ukraine. Im going to interrupt you for a second. These pictures are pretty dramatic. I hope you both have monitors and can see the fires on the streets. We know there were some arrests throughout the course of the day. Obviously going on past what has been a very long day of daylight. All of this happening while you have this great contrast. Youve got the leaders who are at a dinner tonight. There we have him now. Can you hear me . Reporter i can hear you well. Give us a sense of whats happening there. Reporter so the police have moved in on the area that you will have seen us around an hour ago, 40 minutes ago. They have pushed a will the of the protesters back through the streets. This is a place where they are Still Holding out. You can see one of those burning barricades still alight. There are Water Cannons in the street behind it looking up in the sky. The Police Helicopter focused on this area. Again, once again we can see the protesters fighting back, i guess. Throwing things, stones, bottles, anything they can find. There they go again. Let me step out the way so you can see that. Our cameraman just giving you a shot there. The protesters walking into the line of the Police Water Cannon and throwing a barrage of bottles and stones at the police line. Trying to get close do where the leaders were meeting. They gathered here. Th we can see some things flying there. We can see some things flying there as well as seeing the fires. Im going to come right back to you. Angela merkel was asked about this today. One of the things she wanted to do was to show people who dont have an open Democratic Society that they allow protesters out there. They have a voice. Does this in some ways back up what other countries, where you cannot protest freely, where your voice is not allowed to be heard, does it give them some ammunition when they show these pictures back in their home country . It does cut both ways. If Angela Merkel is the leader of the free world, yes to those of us in the west. This can be a reenforcing. To the lights of Vladmir Putin who has sought over the past decade to undermine the international liberal order, this reenforces his point that what matters most is stability. It doesnt matter the character of the government. What matters is this chaos needs to be dealt with appropriately. I think both sides will reenforce their competing narratives. I agree with pjs point. You will see all these types of scenes being replayed because president putin does like to demonstrate that is west is a morally debased place where people riot and where we have whites shooting blacks, et cetera. He always highlights the negative in western society. I think when i look at this, at first i think the germans have a very healthy attitude towards protes protests. They exercise their demonstration muscle often. A strong antiglobalist movement. I woendser who is provoking some of the violence. If i were Angela Merkel, i would get my police in there and try to figure out who started this and pull those people out as soon as possible. Its taken up a lot of oxygen. Tillerson said syria was a major topic in that meeting. We learned about a limited ceasefire between the u. S. And russia although theres skepticism about what impact that will have. Was there anything else you heard coming out of today thats a headline that you think is important. I dont think that one meeting is going to change the character of the tension between the United States and russia. The reality is that the relationship is moving south. Its moving south for a very substantive reasons. I think secretary tillerson posed the right question, is there a path forward. The reality after today even with the meeting is the road forward will be a rocky one. Theres not a consensus on what to do about ukraine even with the limited ceasefire. Russia and the United States and iran have vastly different visions of what the future of syria should look like and even if they talked about north korea, russia has very few levels, nothing paralleling china in terms of how to put pressure on pyongyang. This was a meeting with low expectations and those were met. Its important for the United States and russia to have a dialogue. We shouldnt underestimate how difficult the road forward is going to be. My thanks to both of you. Well be going back to him as we watch what has been two days of violent protests. Keep it here on msnbc. Well be right back. Discover card. How can i help you . Oh, youre real . You know im real at discover, were always here to talk. Good, cause i dont have time for machines. Some Companies Just dont appreciate the power of conversation you know, i like you i like you too at discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Get the it card and talk to a real person. Take a look at whats happening live. Fires burning on the streets of hamburg germany as anticapitalist protests continue to take to the streets. 196 officers have been injured as they have been sent out in the streets. Police from all around germany have been sent in. Were keeping our eye on this dangerous situation. The big unknown leading up to the remarkable meeting, you see the picture there. I think the president took note of actions discussed by the congress. Additional sanctions that have been voted out. The president is rightly focused on how do we move forward from what may be a disagreement at this point. Moving forward. No consequence, no tough talk. Will putin direct hackers to stop what theyre doing right now . Before the meeting five Democratic Senators demanded trump, quoting here, ensure that putin hears you loud and clear. Interfering in our elections was wrong in 2016, and it will not be permitted to happen again. Always good to see you. Both sides agree this is the first thing that came up. No. Its the right thing but its checking the box. What do you want to come out of this with. We want a clear declaration on russias part. You never thought that was going to happen. Vladmir putin was going to say just kidding. I didnt hack. Thats why you dont expect it here. What does putin want out of this . He wants to sanctions to be gone. This is surely not enough for sanctions to be gone. The mover in the senate and house is more important. When we pass it the preside, th should still sign the bill. This does not remove the sanctions that are in place. Theres no mention of moving out of eastern ukraine. The sanctions are just as important today as they were yesterday. We have to make sure his objective and add on top of that, our european allies and i would see what other conversations President Trump is having with our other european allies. Fp you talk about those in the balkans, baltics, theyre concerned about russia. Are we going to abandon them because they dont want russia to be free without sanctions. You mention a number of the other issues that will so critical here. 13 of your colleagues in the house sent a letter saying they demand trump bring up syria. Let me play what he said. We spent a very, very lengthy period on syria. Our objectives are exactly the same. How we get there, we each have a view. Theres a lot more commonality to that than there are differences. One of the things they came up with was a ceasefire between the u. S. And russia in a corner of the country that they say is critical. Some other people have suggested its not going to have much of an impact. Do you see that as a real deliverable that came out of this . I think that were working on this before the meeting. I know former secretary kerry was frustrated about trying to have a ceasefire in other areas. Theres a lot of war and fighting taking place. Thats not included in this conversation. How much time does the or how long will the russians continue to try to support assad. Thats tremendously important. What role, if any, is iran playing and where is russia going to deal with iran who is also involved in all of whats taking place in syria . Those are still questions out there. Its good sound bite. Theres got to be a lot of conversation. Not now lowering our guards. Saying everything is okay, remove the sanctions. Theres a lot of republicans who feel the way you do. They have been concerned about not acknowledging russias role. Do yo see any congressional action when you go back in. All i say is we need to pass the sanctions bill. Thats tremendously important. Will it happen . The president needs to sign it. Well, i dont know. A lot of leadership of the house tries to protect the president. Im hoping the president says lets pass the sanctions. The president should support it. Always good to have you here. Thank you. Preert it. Still ahead, the g20 coming amid dangerous threats from north korea. What happens if pressure from the u. S. Fails. The secretary of state making news on that as well. Using artificial tears often and still have dry eye symptoms . Ready for some relief . Xiidra is the first and only eye drop approved for both the signs and symptoms of dry eye. One drop in each eye, twice a day. Common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. Dont touch container tip to your eye or any surface. Remove contacts before using xiidra and wait at least 15 minutes before reinserting. Chat with your eye doctor about xiidra. 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