and wounded three u.s. soldiers. courtney kube is following the latest. what do we know about this insider attack and that infiltration? >> that's right, frances. so three u.s. soldiers were killed and one wounded in this attack by what appears to be an afghan commando. the afghans are saying the commando was in turn shot dead after he shot these americans, but u.s. officials, u.s. military officials are not yet confirming that. what we know is this happened in eastern afghanistan in nangarhar province. that's an area that's really been overrun by isis in the past year or two but the u.s. and afghans have taken the fight back to them taking out many of the fighters there in the last six months. there was one high-profile strike earlier this year when the u.s. dropped a 21,000-pound bomb near where this insider attack occurred. you called an insider attack. the military often calls it a green on blue. it's something that we've seen happen quite a few times in the past in afghanistan. in 2011, '12 and even into 2013 we saw it happenuite frequently unfounately. this san area overrun by many insurgencies, including the taliban. they claimed credit for the attack earlier today but u.s. military officials are saying they don't really know who was behind this, whether this was a taliban fighter who infiltrated the military with this intent of attacking u.s. military forces. whether it was someone who turned. at this point we just don't know. >> nbc's courtney kube, thank you. joining me is nbc's kelly o'donnell in bramsburg, new jersey, where president trump is spending the weekend. the president has been briefed about this situation. what is the white house saying about it now? >> well, limited information, frances. we've been told in a couple of instances today that the president has been with his national security team getting the initial reports and then updates through the day. but we don't have any more specifics about that. we do know the president has members of the national security staff who are with him while he's here for the weekend in new jersey. and that would be a standard part of the team that travels with the president. he's got immediate access to what he needs. vice president mike pence was in milwaukee. he is beginning a much more public roll-out related to the health care law. kind of out on the campaign trail if you will, but related to trying to change the current health care law and looking to drum up support for that. but because the vice president was also briefed, he took a moment to acknowledge what happened in afghanistan at the beginning of his public remarks today. he's a sense of how mike pence described the events today. >> on my way here, i was informed that u.s. service members were killed and wounded in an attack in afghanistan. the president and i have been briefed. the details of this attack will be forthcoming. but sufice it to say, when heroes fall, americans grieve. and our thoughts and prayers are with the families of these american heroes. >> and so the vice president speaking on behalf of the trump administration there today doing it in a public way. we have not heard from the president directly through a statement or a tweet about this. nothing beyond the fact that he has been in the loop with his national security team. and given the fact that u.s. service members were killed, it would be expected at some point we would hear from the president directly, but we just don't know when that will be. no public events today and in the term of art in covering the president we've already received what's known as a l.i.d. which means we don't expect the president to travel anywhere today or do anything else. that's the plan from the white house. perhaps not until tomorrow or monday when we hear about the president on this issue. >> maybe something with 140 characters on twitter. kelly o'donnell, thank you. we're now following breaking news out of amsterdam where eight people were yainjured whea car crashed into a crowd of people at a train station. two people are in rious condition. the car had been sitting in an area where vehicles are prohibited. when officers approached, the driver took off at a high rate of speed and crashed into a wall. the driver was arrested at the scene. the incident does not appear to be intentional and the driver may not have been feeling well at the time of the crash. to the fall dlout over james comey's testimony that continues to heat up. accusations of lying, secret tapes and explosive charges of possible obstruction of justice. president trump saying comey vindicated him while slamming his honesty. >> in the meantime, no collusion, no obstruction. he's a leaker. james comey confirmed a lot of what i said. and some of the things that he said just weren't true. >> the president still not being clear on his threat that he recorded his january dinner with comey. >> do tapes exist of your conversations with him? >> i'll tell crow about that some time in the near future. >> you seem to be hinting there oar. >> i'll tell you about it over a very short period of time. >> when will you tell us? >> over a fairly short period of time. >> are there tapes? >> you'll be very disappointed when you hear the answer. >> did the president commit obstruction of justice in firing comey over the russia investigation? comey deferred to the special counsel on that, but he did lay out his case in his explosive testimony thursday. >> i hope you can let this go. now those are his exact words. is that correct? >> correct. >> he did not direct you to let it go. >> not in his words, no. >> he did not order you to let it go? >> again, those words are not an order. the reason i keep say his words, is i took it as a direction. he's the president of the united states. with me alone saying, i hope this. i took it as this is what he wants me to do. >> why do you believe you were fired? >> i think the president -- i think i was fired because of the russia investigation. something about the way i was conducting it, the president felt created pressure on him he wanted to relieve. our primary concern was we can't infect the investigative team. we don't want the agents and analysts to know the president of the united states has asked, and when it comes to the president, i took it as a direction, to get rid of this investigation. a really significant fact to me is, so why did he kick everybody out of the oval office? why would you kick the attorney general, the president, chief of staff, out to talk to me if it was about something else? >> i want to bring in aisha, white house correspondent for reuters and a former senior cia officer who ran operations in russia. to both of you, thanks for your time. we heard from the president in the rose garden on friday, making those headlines saying that he would testify. let's take a quick listen. >> would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of -- >> 100%. who would ask a man to pleej allegiance under oath? i hardly know the man. it doesn't make sense. no, i didn't say that, and i didn't say the other. >> if robert mueller wanted to speak with you about -- >> i would be happy to tell him exactly what i just told you. >> would that make matters worse? >> i think it depends on who you ask. most people are saying, i'mot a legal expert, but most people are saying tt his legal team would not have advised him to say in public that 100% that he is going to -- that he'd be willing to testify under oath. to make such a blanket commitment without putting any kind of -- putting any kind of conditions on that. they say it's probably not a good idea, and it might have been something the president just said off the cuff. but now that he's said it, he's not legally committed to do it, but it would -- you would have to think, he would have to think of the political consequences of making a public statement saying that he is 100% willing to do it and then backing off. >> we don't know if they exist. we know the comey memos do. his law professor friend that's expected to ask questions about the whereabouts of these memos. how much damage could they cause the white house if they became public? >> how much damage the memos will cause? >> it depends on what's in them. if it's pretty much what we already know, i think that's baked in. at this point, we've been over the meetings and the timelines and, you know, the grandfather clock and everything. so if the -- but if the memos have something that goes beyond what we know, some fact that comey has not revealed, it could be damaging for the white house. that's the issue right now is, are there other facts out there that could possibly harm the white house? >> we've heard from comey in that testimony saying the president himself was not under investigation within the fbi at the time. we've heard from donald trump saying that he feels vindicated as an outcome of that. the special counsel is investigating whether the campaign colluded with russia. wouldn't tt involve the president himself? >> yes, for sure. in fact, mr. comey hinted at the notion that the president is -- is inside the circle of the investigation. even if he's not a subject of the investigation. you have to remember, a counterintelligence investigation is about protecting the country from outside attackers. and they are not always going to be able to interview those foreign actors or foreign agents. so they'll investigate widely and since this touches on the trump campaign and the trump white house, all sorts of things are going to be looked at, become evidence and talk to people. so even if he's not the subject of this, in terms of looking for criminal behavior, as they investigate, they are certainly going to find more just like whitewater started out looking at the whitewater. seven years later, it ended up in a different place. >> do you think there are more arrows pointing at that, within those closed doors in the later half of the testimony? >> the issue for me is less really at this point about criminality. criminality will be an issue at the end of the investigation. really this is more like a clash of cultures between comey, who supports government service, honor, those types of things. things he talked to his fbi people about in the beginning of his testimony as opposed to partisanship here. so these things are going to come out over time. hopefully they're not leaked out over time. mr. mueller is able to investigate. >> at this point we're just digesting here as far as political reaction. couldn't be more different as faras, you know, o republicans. let's take a listen to paul rn and what he said on friday. >> the president is new at this. he's new to government. and so he probably wasn't steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between doj, fbi and white houses. he's just new to this. >> all right. two factors here in what paul ryan says. republicans seem to be obviously sticking with trump. is that good enough for -- to say that he's just not good at this? and what could change the outcome at this point as far as those republicans still backing him? >> well, i think right now, for his base, that probably is good enough, although it is very interesting to say that the president of the united states is just kind of new when president trump ran on being able to change washington and that he alone could do it. and now that he gets in there, it's like, well, he doesn't know washington. he doesn't know how to maneuver himself. so that's an interesting way to go about it. but that's working with his base right now. i think what republicans are looking at is the fact that, you know, right now -- i mean, they are obviously tied to trump. and so if he goes down basically, they will go down, too. so i think at this point, as long as the base stays with president trump, the republican party will stay with president trump. the republican politicians will stay with trump. if those numbers start shrinking, that's when you'll start seeing some republican lawmakers start pulling away. >> and we see those numbers. quinnipiac has 34% low when it comes to the president's popularity and also interesting to see when it comes to the president's own private attorney and going after filing that complaint against comey where that will go. where can that go, john? >> well, there's so much talk here about criminality, and if your talking point was, what i did wasn't strictly criminal, you aren't in a good place politically. this is more about behavior and ethics. i remember well in the '90s, a lot of talk when president clinton was in that some of his behavior would be such that people working under him would be fired. i remember generals talking about that and others. and when i was in the cia, people got fired all the time and often not for strictly criminal reasons. it was for ethics and behavior. those are political issues here, and that's going to be more harmful to him in the short term. >> aisha and john, thank you for your perspective on this this afternoon. another potential bombshell in the russia investigation. shocking new allegations in the case of an nsa contractor leaking classified information. we'll bring you the latest when we come back. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced. our senses awake. our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say...if you love something set it free. see you around, giulia in the mirror everyday. when i look when i look in the mirror everyday. everyday, i think how fortunate i am. i think is today going to be the day, that we find a cure? 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>> well, it looks as though it was a very incautious attempt to bring information to the american public about the russian effort to disrupt the 2016 election. there's reason to think at this point that she may have actually used a thumb drive based on her own communications, that she may have more documents. and that what she revealed is a widespread attempt on the part of the russians not only to influence our election through the dissemination of fake news. also through hacking into dnc e-mails to embarrass democrats and hillary clinton in particular, but actually to penetrate into our election registration software, which is what this is about. >> and given that, how serious of a security breach is that, especially if there were more to come? >> it's a very serious situation that's been identified. that's for sure. it would be of grave concern if we learn that, in fact, this was an effort across the board that the instances we know of or think we know of in florida, in illinois, that are being revealed since this nsa report went to the intercept, is very concerning. russia is a significant threat to democratic institutions across the world, not just in the u.s. we shouldn't regard this as it's over and done with. we have to attend not only to what may be in store for further u.s. elections and democratic institutions more generally, but we have the german elections to worry about. we still don't know what happened in the french elections. so this is a very grave concern that she identified. and in that sense, it's a good thing we know about it. >> given that, w have a question being posed. hero or traitor. something we've heard when it comes to -- when it comes to edward snowden, chelsey manning and those comparisons as well. what are the comparisons in your eyes? >> my answer would be neither. that is, she was incautious, of course, in the way that she communicated this information. obviously, not very skilled at that. and one can appreciate the fact that we have the information, but that is really -- speaks more to the fact that there is significant overclassification that we're contending with. so we see the number of leakers start to rise, i think, in part because there is a concern that there are just too many things being classified at this point. since 9/11, the amount of classification has expanded significantly. it's very easy to classify a document. whoever has written the document just writes on it. top secret. and also determines the level of classification. to declassify a document, however, is extremely difficult. and that's a kind of setup for people taking matters into their own hands and starting to disseminate information. >> we'll see -- >> at the same time -- >> go ahead. >> it has to be said that she made a mistake in the sense that it is not permissible, it is absolutely illegal to lea classified information. so whether this information should have been classified or shouldn't have been classified, she should not be leaking it, and we can't really think of her as a whistleblower because she is not disseminating information that reveals illegal conduct on the part of the agency that she is in or the government on our side. >> certainly watch which direction this case takes. especially with the mother's biggest fear that the government will make an example of her. claire finkelstein, thank you for being with me this afternoon. >> thank you for having me. now to british politics also on edge. theresa may scrambling to stay in power. now two of her top aides have resigned. the latest on that just ahead. t. ♪ to move... with you... through you... ♪ beyond you. ♪ [radi♪ alarm] julie is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor- positive her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ♪ ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. and ibrance plus letrozole shrunk tumors in over half of these patients. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts... ...infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. julie calls it her "new" normal. because a lot has changed, but a lot hasn't. ask your doctor about ibrance, the number-one-prescribed, fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. british politics in turmoil two days after a stunning election. prime minister theresa may's conservative party lost seats in parliament at a time she needed a big victory headed into brexit negotiations. now two of her top aides are stepping down. all of this as her country continues to deal from fall dlout from the terror attack one week ago today. british police releasing new information about the weapons used in the attack which left eight dead and 50 injured. for the latest we go to lucy kafanov in london. bring us up to date on what the investigation and what we're we're learning about the weapons used. >> the biggest takeaway is this could have been much bigger. khurum butt apparently tried to rent a 7.5-ton truck, the scale of the nice attack. he went online to try to rent this truck but his payment didn't go through so plan b was getting that white van. smaller, but still deadly. th found molotov cocktails, lighter fluid, blow torches. all three attackers shot dead by the police before they could return to the van to kill even more people. and also today, frances, police releasing images of a pink kitchen knife, one of three found on each of the attackers. 12 inches long. ceramic instead of metal. one had a letather strap to kee it on the attackers' wrist. they say it could be a crucial lead in their investigation. here in london, life is slowly returning back to normal. the red cross is calling for people to come together, urging them to visit bars and restaurants in a show of force. and we're seeing that happening. >> still chilling to know or think of what would have happened if that payment went through and that larger truck, the vehicle there. lucy, i want to talk about politics. prime minister theresa may losing her top two aides. so what happened there? what were the details leading up to it, and what happens next? >> the knives are very much out for theresa may herself, as well as her top aides. the decision to have this snap poll in the first place was a big gamble that backfired for her. she thought she'd come out with a stronger hand. inste instead, lost her majority. there's a lot of pressure to get rid of the top advisers that advised her. now she looks weak. brexit negotiations up in the air. and to get anything done in parliament as a minority government, her party has to get help from another party from northern ireland called the democratic unionist party. they are very right wing. socially conservative. they will want big favors for northern ireland in exchange for their votes so this is a shaky alliance and one that may not hold up. theresa may is not going anywhere, but frances, her sion looking very weak right now. >> we'll see if it strengthens in any way. lucy kafanov, thanks. as the russia investigation continues, so do the comparisons to nixon's watergate scandal. up next, a look at the similarities between the two and what it might mean for trump. the lobster and shrimp you love are teaming up in so many new ways. like new coastal lobster and shrimp, with a lobster tail with butter and herbs, sweet, smoky bbq red shrimp, and shrimp crusted with...get this...cape cod kettle chips. or try lobster and shrimp overboard. a dish this good... makes you this hungry. it's the highlight of the season, and can't last. so hurry in. ♪ ♪ isaac hou has mastered gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. great show. here you go. now he's added a new routine. making depositing a check seem so effortless. easy to use chase technology, for whatever you're trying to master. isaac, are you ready? 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>> well, there's always a concern after an attack like this about how secure our troops are. as you may recall, in 2012, ere s a stepike in the number of these types of attacks. 44 attacks. and after that, then secretary of state leon pa nettarded certain steps to be taken to protection our troops. greater vetting to make sure our troops were secure. and the number of attacks has decreased. they've also decreased because the number of u.s. troops in afghanistan has gone down. but every time an attack like this happens, it raises a question of how secure our troops are and what we need to do to make sure they're safe. >> given that and given the vetting that goes into this, when we're talking about infiltration into the afghan army, how does that even happen? what's the level of sophistication if there is at all in something like that happening, in getting through? >> well, it's unclear whether this person joined the afghan military as a member of the taliban or was turned once they joined. and there may have been an incident or something happened during their service that made them susceptible to taliban recruitment or they may have from the very beginning been a taliban sympathizer and that, i think, is what the investigation by the u.s. military will try and assess out to make sure there are no other infiltrators that can conduct a similar attack. >> what does that investigation continue. the information, finding out what happened. but how quickly can something be implemented? if this is something that's been reported as kind of on the rise that we're seeing more in the region that can be avoided. >> well, i think they're going to take a look at this particular afghan soldier and ok at their background, how they were vetted. see if there were any mistakes in vetting that need to be corrected. this san area where there is a great deal of fighting going on. it's an area where the taliban are trying to make progress in their fight against the afghan government and u.s. troops. and so there is going to be continued efforts by the taliban to try and inflict losses on u.s. troops as a part of this campaign. >> all right, andrew shapiro, thank you for being with me. >> thank you. well are no charges so far in the investigation between possible ties between russia and the trump campaign. but that certainly hasn't stopped a growth of comparrsons between the current white house woes and the watergate scandal, especially as the president ramps up his rhetoric against james comey. >> in the meantime, no collusion, no obstruction. he's a leaker. james comey confirmed a lot of what i said. and some of the things that he said just weren't true. >> joining us now is rick perlstein, an author of numerous books about american politic. including them, "nixon land, the rise of a president and the fracturing of america." rick, thank you. i appreciate your being with me. i want to delve right into this. this is how the new republic quoted a recent facebook post of yours. you wrote your followers this. "trump is trump, people. trump. stop messaging me about other presidents. okay. we can't help but notice you're all caps right there. >> that's rare. >> kind of shouting at these people and followers of yours. so given how there a no comparisons between watergate and what's happening now? >> no, of course there are. dozens of comparisons but also dozens of contrasts. the one i'm thinking about these days is, while in many ways the offenses of the trump campaign, allegedly colluding with russia, in many ways much more profound than anything nixon was accused of. but the investigation of trump dwarfs -- is dwarfed by that of watergate, which was a bipartisan investigation. and really consumed basically live television for months at a time. we all got excited when one witness was presented on live television the other day. that happened, you know, day after day after day. >> it's interesting how you put that in the perspective of the comparisons of what, you know, possible obstruction of justice. what people are asking and then what happened with watergate. but you say that nixon is worse than trump in a sense of more paranoid, more dangerous. but how can you possibly back that up if, at this point, you know, we're seeing if anything is going to come out of these investigations. >> well, lots of -- has come out of this investigation. we know that he basically tried to shut down an investigation of himself within very few weeks of being president. n then there's just this brand-new development that his own lawyer is threatened comey with a lawsuit which suggests, you know, a double obstruction of justice. when you intimidate a witness by having your personalawyer accuse him -- accusing him of a crime, you're just compounding what you've done before. >> i don't know about crimewise there, what criminality there is. there's going to be -- >> he said comey is a leaker. >> certainly that's the case. also interesting in your writing that you said there 24 things that separate trump from president nixon. first, his soul is sicker by miles than nixon. and second, the surveillance apparatus he is about to inherit is far scarier than the one available to nixon. expand on that. >> that's fascinating. the surveillance apparatus turns out is going in the other direction. it's been reported that the nsa is beginning a canvass of the evidence in the russia investigation. that's the biggest in their history. one of the things that is so different between trump and nixon is that nixon was profoundly competent. very well prepared. knew the levers of government. and nixon is having a hard time exercising tyranny just because he's so incompetent and he doesn't really know how to control these levers of power like the nsa. so that's certainly if we're going to go into the charts of comparisons and contrasts, that's a profound contrast right there. >> i can bet when it comes to your post about trump is trump, people, stop messaging me about other presidents, you'll probably have more comments on that after this conversation. >> i'm glad that people are paying attention. >> certainly a lot of people are. thank you for being with me. coming up, we dive into the cosby trial. an attorney following the trial very closely will join me to break down the first week and what to expect as the trial continues. i was out here smoking instead of being there for my son's winning shot. that was it for me. that's why i'm quitting with nicorette. only nicorette mini has a patented fast dissolving formula. it starts to relieve sudden cravings fast. every great why needs a great how. every great why (woman) there's a moment of truth.etes, and now with victoza®, a better moment of proof. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill, which didn't get me to my goal. lowers my a1c better than the leading branded injectable. the one i used to take. victoza® lowers blood sugar in three ways. and while it isn't for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. non-insulin victoza® comes in a pen and is taken once a day. 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>> i don't think there is any way he'll take the stand. if he, does it's going to be suicide. he might as well go to jail right then and there because they'll be able to open up and talk to him on the stand about the quaaludes, about the women in the past, about anything that has come up. it is just going to be open sesame street for him. so i don't know why the publicist would say that, although sometimes since it's a publicist, it is not the lawyer saying it. it just may be something just to create an aura of excitement. always these cases we don't know if the defendant is going to take the stand. >> with a case of this magnitude, you'd think they would all be on the same page with something like that. let's talk about the jury listening to the deposition on using quaaludes. how could that influence the decision making in the cause? >> they saved that for the very end, which is interesting. they are trying to create a pattern of behavior. in those depositions, which were quite explosive when they were unsealed, he talked about the fact that -- bill cosby talked about giving quaaludes to young women he wanted to have sex o as he put it, romantic rendezvouses with. so the idea was to put in the jury's mind the idea this is a man who associates the use of pills that knock women out with sexual behavior. >> debbie, when it comes to the defense attorneys, we also heard them grilling andrea constand over the phone records. she call him 50-plus times. what were they trying to build there or establish? >> oh, my god, all the inconsistencies there. if this case just rested on her without mr. cosby's prior statement and the deposition, it would be a problem because she contacted mr. cosby some 50-odd times by telephone afterwards. twice on valentine's day. she called him to get tickets and she went to canada, back home so that her family could attend the show he was at. that does tend to show that they had some type of relationship because all of this is occurring after the alleged incident. >> and the defense starting up next week, do you think they'll pick up with that or where do you expect them to start? >> i think there were two big parts the defense was harping on last week when they were cross-examining. the first is andrea constand changed the date of the alleged assault from march of 2004 to january. so they've been going after that. and, yes, the phone calls have been a big part. the fact that there was contact after the alleged assault. and particularly, they harped away on valentine's day. and they are trying to downplay the fact that she did have a working relationship in terms of her work at temple university, which -- where cosby i an icon. >> certainly more to come next week when the defense picks up. debbie heinz, ann kingston, thanks for being with me. coming up, the breaking news in the russia investigation. word just in that attorney general jeff sessions will appear before the senate intelligence committee on tuesday. so we'll get more on that straight ahead here. what do you have there? 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>> the attorney general is talking about a willingness to talk to them about classified information. that would suggest it would be a closed hearing. but that would be up to chairman burr, richard burr of north carolina who led the comey hearing that was getting so much attention this past week. we just don't have that answer yet. this letter just was made available to us through sources and it's an official document from the attorney general to those in charge of the specific committees on capitol hill. this would be the normal way you would notify about a change in a plan to testify but in all things related to the russia investigation, everything that looks like a change in plan or suggest that there is some attention that wants to be avoided. >> sure. >> certainlyets a lot of attention. >> especially withot of members of the public there hungry to find out more and hear what jeff sessions will have to say. kelly o'donnell, thank you. i want to bring in republican strategist noelle and peter. very quickly, as you're here with me, peter, the letter basically says in it lolight of reports of mr. comey's testimony, it's important that i have an opportunity to address these matters in the appropriate form. so we were talking about this, getting ahead of it and being proactive and adding a whole other dimension. >> it's a smart political move. this is a political issue. all of this is a political issue. it's not a legal issue at this point. it may become a legal issue and a constitutional crisis down the road. right now it's political. sessions being the ultimate politician is asking his colleagues to give him a closed session and he signaled that using the word classified meaning it has to be closed and from that we'll see what happens. but in talking to republican friends from washington this week, the real damage done by this week's comey's testimony was jeff sessions. >> speaking to that, noelle, what does he gain as far as going ahead and saying, okay, i'm going to go and accept this invitation to speak to the senate intel committee? >> well, and i think it's beyond political correctness, the right political thg to do. i think it's the right thingo do in general and i think that jeff sessions is showing his strength as someone that is very ethical and riding down the line and i also think that, you know, he's agreeing to do this relatively quickly. i mean, this letter came out pretty quick after the comey trials. and i also, you know, know that peter had mentioned the fact that he put in the word "classified" to determine it would be a closed hearing. i think it's good that he put in "classified" because we're dealing with classified information and who better to answer your case or answer your questions in front of than the senate intelligence committee who basically has a lot of this information and has a thorough understanding of what is going on with all points. >> when it comes to testimony -- >> well, including the fact that jeff sessions neglected to put on his papers when he was up for confirmation meetings with the russian ambassador. now a third meeting with the russian ambassador was never disclosed either. so he's in a weakened position. he's counting on the fact that he's got goodwill in the senate and in terms of his honesty, that's up for grabs. >> we'll hear from him on tuesday. when it comes to testimony, we have a president who said that he is 100% willing to testify here. will that happen? >> no. but it's fantastic. >> why do you use that word fantastic? >> because this is donald trump at his best but for democrats, if they're smart and get out of the weeds and stop debating whether this is a constitutional crisis, obstruction of justice and abuse of power and remind the american people that donald trump has promised to testify under oath. he made two promises that were significant, i will not lie and i'll never let you down. >> well, we'll see. as we talk to noelle about that, when it comes to the president testifying, you heard from peter using his knowledge saying that it's a promise he'll not be able to keep. >> well, you know, we are dealing with something entirely different and i think that your viewers, a lot of them dislike donald trump and that's okay. a lot of people on the republican side are very wary of donald trump. but we are dealing with something very different. we're dealing with someone that is approaching politics or approaching the office of the presidency like a business person. but further than that, i'll kind of echo on what paul ryan said when paul ryan said he's new at it. >> please do that. let me stop you for a second because we want to play it for our viewers and then we'll talk about it. >> okay. >> of course, there needs to be a degree of independence between the doj and fbi and the white house. the president's new at this. he's new to government. so he's teepsteeped in the long-running relationships between the doj and the white house, he's just new to this. >> noelle, is that the right response or the best response? >> as republicans, we represent the republican platform. but we when people are asking pundits questions, we don't know what's in his mind. but what i will tell you, and i know a lot of people that have dealt with him in business -- >> that's the most tepid lack of support i've ever heard. second, what about jimmy carter? what about ronald reagan who trump claims to be following in his foot step? they didn't have prior knowledge. >> i'm glad i got you both in there. thank you both. and that is my time, my friends. have a great weekend. no collusion, no obstruction. yesterday showed no collusion, no obstruction. >> on friday, donald trump gave that one response to what are in fact two separate scandals now plaguing his presidency. one has to do with a cloud of suspicion shadowing trump over this question. did he and/or any members of his campaign collude with russia to interfere in the election? it could be months or even years before this investigation into trump's ties of russia gives a definitive answer to that question. when it comes to building the case for pos

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