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MSNBCW MSNBC Live March 12, 2017

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This shows folks get a tax benefit or should you and me pay taxes on those Health Insurance benefits . If part of our society has a tax benefit for the purchase of Health Coverage then im of the belief and the president is of the belief that it needs to be fair for everybody. Well be talking about this a lot this hour. Also heres senator rand paul, one of the chief opponents on where he sees the fight heading. I promise you, this is the way its going to work. We will get obamacarelite, ryans plan unless theres enough conservatives to say no. If theres enough to say no when they start voting on the rules of debate, if they bring down the rule and they stop him on the tracks then a true negotiation begins and no ney goschvation counts until there are enough votes to stop obamacarelite. The white house has 24 hours left to produce evidence to support the president s wiretapping claims. I want to bring in kelly odonnell. Kelly, what can we expect to see tomorrow, if anything, really . Reporter this isnt something that would be playing out in public, and it is really the Justice Department, not the white house, per se. Although, its the same administration, who has been asked by members of the House Intelligence Committee to produce evidence based on the president s tweet where he raised the specter of former president obama somehow ordering a wiretap on trump tower that could have ensned the president. There have been manyfficia who looked at that and said it doesnt add up, but we dont have a definitive answer, publicly and the way to short circuit a longer investigation process which will deal with issues on russia meddling in the 2016 election to focus in on this one issue asking for a production of evidence. So that would happen, but behind the scenes, because of the nature of this being potentially classified information. In the larger sense we have some big clues where you have officials who are briefed by the intel je intel jens community who could have firsthand access to this information as they stand right now who say theyve seen nothing to suggest that there is such evidence to such a wiretap. So that has discredited the tweet and the whole issue of the credibility of the president is somehow being measured by this example and the president has been far less visible to reporters this week. Hes been on camera for events and not taking questions in the way he did if the first few weeks of his presidency. Today elija cummings, democrat of maryland who was here at the white house and met with the president on a separate topic and raised the issue of the president s credibility when it comes to some of the things hes been saying. When you come out and you make allegations as the president has which cannot be proven and then you find out that things are not true, you have now created a new sense of normalcy and that normalcy is one where adam schiff just said. You question almost anything that comes out of the president s mouth. Reporter and when congressman cummings was here at the white house earlier this week and he talked to reporters about a meeting which had to do with the very specific topic about drug prices, but he was able to sit in the same room with President Trump, and i asked him did you get a chance to raise this specific issue with him . And he kw there was a limited agendand he was a guest of the president , and he said that he wanted to say to the president to sort of leave president obama out of this. Dont make wild accusations. This has bothered congressman companyings and Many Democrats feel that way, and so the idea of pushing this letter and seeking evidence is in some ways trying to bring this particular issue to a close. Its only been a week, but it has, in many cases, dominated a lot of what has been talked about in the past week. Well have to see what happens tomorrow, that is for sure. Kelly odonnell. Thank you very much. Very much appreciate it. I want to bring in eric pike and caitlin hugheyburns, political reporter for real clear politics. I ierin i will start with you, asking the white house for evidence to be turned in by tomorrow as i just spoke about with kelly. How do you see this playing out . I think kelly is right that we wont know very much about what that is, if indeed, evidence is turned over to the house committee. I think if the white house does not give any kind of evidence then that will leak, simply that they did not give evidence or that they did. We wont get the substance of what that evidence could be, just whether or not the white house gave it and that will tell us a lot right there if the white house is unable to produce any kind of evidence then it will discredit the president on that issue. Kacaitlin, how about you . Do you think theres evidence that will come forward and if not, what then . What does that say about the Trump Administration . I think its very difficult to say. You have republicans on capitol hill saying that they have not seen evidence of this so far, and that they are going to investigate it. What it does do, though, is create more work for a lot of these lawmakers who have already a lot on their agenda, of course, health care, tax reform, eventually and other items relating to investigating russia. I think this adds more to their plate and actually clouds the narrative of what they actually want to do. Caitlyn, do you think this is a deflection tactic . Well,or theresident i think it was a way that he thought that this was true and he speaks from the gut on a lot of this stuff without actually having, you know, the evidence to back it up. Weve seen that on other occasions, but he does have a lot that he needs to get done legislatively, needs a lot of these lawmakers on board and actually needs to be the one driving the message here, and so this does distract from other things. Erin, we have not heard from the president about these allegations since his tweet last weekend. Why . Think there is a good reason for that, and what were kind of getting from the white house is that they want to move on from this issue. I think maybe its possible that the president has been chasing some on this, whether or not we hear from him on this Going Forward this coming week remains to be seen. He will be having a press conference with angela americael on tuesd merkel on wednesday who shell be in town, whether he chooses to answer or deflect from it then will tell us a lot. I want to turn to the fight over health care and heres what rand paul said this morning about what hes hearing from President Trump versus what House Speaker paul ryan is saying. I think there is a separation between the two. Ive talked to the president , i think three times on obamacare, and i hear from him that hes willing to negotiate. You know what i hear from paul ryan . Its a binary choice, young man. What does binary choice mean . His way or the highway. I want you guys both to weigh in on this, caitlin, ill start with you. Is there a disconnect there . I think paul ryan and President Trump have slightly different goals here. Remember, paul ryan and the republicans have been campaigning on repealing and replacing the Health Care Law for the past six or seven years now in consecutive elections. They know that if they dont get something done on this they are going to see perhaps repercussions at the ballot box, but in a variety of different ways. You have moderates and conservatives upset with this plan. President trump, however, has kind of a different goal. He campaigned, of course, not only on repealing and replacing the Health Care Law and campaigned as negotiator in chief. You talked to conservatives and talked to moderates and they both say that trump is not an idea log and he does showroom for negotiation and he talked to outside groups who have been pushing against this Health Care Bill and they do see room for trump to negotiate and the big question here is how much the president puts on the line in terms of his own political capital, how strongly he campaigns for this. We know hes been working behind the scenes and look how strongly if he does campaign and twist some arms here or whether he decides that this is not the avenue to go. Erin mcpike, caitlin hueyburns, appreciate it. I want to turn to a different topic. The Michael Brown shooting case, the store Surveillance Video the public has never seen. Could it have made a difference . We are going to show you that video next. You do not want to miss it. The classes, the friends, the independence. And since we planned for it, that student debt is the one experience, im glad shell miss when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. Ameriprise so we know how to cover almost alanything. Ything, even a truckcicle. [second man] how you doing . [ice cracking] [second man] ah,ah, ah. Oh no [first man] saves us some drilling. [burke] and we covered it, february fourteenth, twentyfifteen. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum or is it your allergy pills . Holding you back break through your allergies. Introducing Flonase Sensimist. 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I want to start first with reverend jake hansler, the attorney for the Convenience Store and its employees joining me now on the phone. We have him live with us. We appreciate that, reverend. Thank you for joining us. Very much appreciate it. Before we talk i want to give a few points to the audience to warn them of what theyre going to see. The footage has not been authenticated by the st. Louis county police and its been edited by the filmmaker and we cant confirm how he got it in the first place. Jay, ill start with you. What is your reaction to the claim that marijuana is being traded for the cigarillos and they were not stolen by Michael Brown . Well, first of all, i hate to throw water on a big story for the news media, but this is neither new nor news. This video has been around. It was turned over to the police at the very beginning of the investigation, and including this part of it. So not to jay, not to cut you off. I do want you to continue, but important to note this is the first time we are seeing this so that everybody out there sees it. This is something that was not released. That could be while you may have known of the existence of the video, we as the media and the people out there watching, they did not. Go ahead. And so its not new and its been out there, but the speculation that this filmmaker makes that this is somehow a transaction for between Michael Brown and the store, marijuana or whats ever in the bag for sill cigarillos is just nonsense and patently false. It didnt happen that way. If you take it to its logical conclusion, you see Michael Brown walking out of the store without the bag of cigarillos. Now that makes what the filmmaker is saying is that somehow the store had a layaway plan like macys or walmart for cigarillos. What if fact was happening was that Michael Brown was again, taking products that he didnt pay for. They asked him for it back. He turned around and put the product back on the counter because he didnt have he wasnt willing to pay money for those products. Whats Michael Brown putting on the counter . What do you see . What i see is a baggie. What i am told is there was some kind of a lot of people out there dont know whats a baggy. It was a plastic bag and what i am told is it had Something Like marijuana in it. I have no idea what it was. You see one of the people in the video smell it, but i can tell you this, the people in the video, the clerks dont smoke marijuana. They didnt take the marijuana. Maybe Michael Brown thought that they would trade him cigarillos for marijuana, but they didnt, and so, you know, the filmmakers story, while it may make for great publicity for a new newly released documentary is a false assumption is that any agreement between them and that is not the case. Have you spoken to the clerks from the video from the night before . Absolutely. I have worked very closely with this family all along and ive known about this, and i knew this story. The reason the story didnt come out to begin with is that, you know, if you look at the story as it actually happened, that is Michael Brown throwing drugs up on the counter, presumably, and then trying to wal o of the store without paying for the cigarillos that had the people talked about this back then those that, you know, were more favorable to mr. Brown and his version would have said that the media was piling on, that the police were piling on. They were talking about something that was irrelevant. It had nothing to do with what happened the next day at canfield. What it showed was Michael Brown was walking out of the store with something he didnt pay for, exactly what he did the next day when he shoved the store owner into the chip shelf. A lot of people do see it from your perspective and there are a lot of people out there that see this as raising some questions when it comes to . Yes. There are still a lot of questions, seeing this video and also why it is that this is just being released now. Why are we seeing this now . I think thats also why these questions are being raised. Reverend jake hansler, thank you very much for joining us. I want to bring in reverend al sharpton host of msnbcs host of politics nation and with the action network. You saw the video and what is your reaction to what he had to say . As you know, i was involved with this case and worked with the parents of Michael Brown and still do, and in fact, preached at his funeral so i was there when within 48 hours of him being killed and called by the family. The thing, i think, that raises real serious questions about this video being released is that, with all due respect to jay, if everything jay is saying is true, it changes with the public and potentially grand jurors were told that because it establishes that there was some kind of interaction with Michael Brown and he didnt just walk in that store and just was a thief that the police were pursuing. So even if there was an atteted drug trade as theyre saying, even if there was some disagreement, was there a history here that we did not know. He was not a kid that walked into a store unknown, robbed from it and the police were looking for him and when the police found him this encounter happened the next day. This changes the narrative even if everything jay says is true. Would it have changed the outcome of the trial of Darren Wilson . There was no trial with Darren Wilson. Thats the question. Would it have changed whether there would have been a trial because the grand jury could have then said, well, wait a minute. Grand juries only find probable cause. They dont find right. They dont find guilt or innocence. Wait a minute, this is two days and not one day of exchange. Why did he go in the next day and why would a cop pursuing him then and is he such a hostile kid he would have went for a policemans gun when he didnt shove anybody the first day . It raises a lot of questions that was never raised before. So in its worst interpretation it doesnt help darren browns side here, because if they said wait a minute, if they had two days of encounters with him, why didnt they call the cops the first day . Why did they call the second day on somebody that they saw and knew who he was saying he was robbing the store . This starts to, in many ways, unravel the whole scenario that many of us were told. Especially since you say you have a relationship with Michael Browns family. Have you heard about which exchange before . Iv

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