governor mike pence, substantial evidence will be provided. donald trump has promised to produce evidence that proves claims made by women accusing him of inappropriate behavior are false. pence said on "the today show," this information will be released within hours. >> it's coming. and it's coming, frankly, probably in a matter of hours. i know that melania trump through her attorneys already reached out to one of the publications, "people" magazine, to call for a retraction. >> it's showing us evidence. >> well, just stay tuned. more information coming forward. >> donald trump gave his strongest denials yet to a riled up crowd in florida yesterday. >> these claims are all fabricated. they're pure fiction, and they're outright lies. these people are horrible people. they're horrible, horrible liars. this is a conspiracy against you, the american people, and we cannot let this happen or continue. >> everyone still talking about it. the trump campaign taking a devastating hit from powerful pleas of president obama and it went viral yesterday, first lady michelle obama speaking on the campaign trail. >> if your only agenda is either negative, negative is a euphemi euphemism, crazy, based on lies, based on hoaxes, this is the nominee you get. >> i can't believe i'm saying a candidate for the president of the united states has bragged about sexually assaulting women. and i have to tell you, that i can't stop thinking about this. it has shaken me to my core in a way that i couldn't have predicted. >> nbc's jacob rascon live from greensboro, north carolina, where donald trump will hold a rally later this afternoon. jacob, now governor pence put the clock up and people are waiting. what are people saying about his comments on "the today show"? >> reporter: and last night too. he said there's substantial evidence and there's no official anything from the campaign, but there are reports coming out of trump world from an unnamed advisor that they plan to bring out allegations against a mexican billionaire carlos slim first reported by "the wall street journal." this is something who's a shareholder, a minority shareholder with "the new york times" and donor to the clinton foundation and plans to peg all of this behind this global conspiracy behind pushing out allegations that are false in order to distract against wikileaks and other things and they say this proves the conspiracy that he talked about yesterday, this global conspiracy that it's basically trump against the world. this fits well into his argument. of course, this is something that when reached out, they said, it's ludicrous. they're not involved in mexican politics as well as american politics and part of a right wing conspiracy. >> live at another trump rally and another major development this morning in the race for president. we have some brand new nbc news battleground map numbers showing hillary clinton expanding her lead now with 287 electoral votes. 17 more than she needs to be elected. donald trump standing at 157 down 30 from last week and hillary clinton making gains in georgia and utah now moving into the toss-up column. but it's the topic of e-mails that continues to surround her campaign. wikileaks just released what they said is more hacked e-mails from the account of campaign manager john podesta. msnbc's kasie hunt has the latest from los angeles, so kasie, what are we hearing about the wikileaks e-mails now this morning? >> reporter: hey, tamron. this problem getting worse by the day for the clinton campaign. although, they continue to emphasize that these e-mails are hacked stolen material and focusing on the connections to the russian government. we got a statement from the vice chair of the intelligence committee yesterday, dianne feinstein talk aboing about thid learning from the nbc investigative unit, the hackers may have had access to john podesta's e-mails as recently as a week or two ago and potentially well to his campaign account which would have given hackers access to more information than we might have thought. now, of course, this is the unpredictable side of what is going on right now for the clinton campaign. in the meantime, they've had a pretty coordinated campaign with their surrogates out on the campaign trail for the last couple of days as hillary clinton has fund raised here in california. she was in san francisco, los angeles, now she's, we are in beverly hills waiting to head up to seattle for another fundraiser. but of course, it was michelle obama that got all of the attention yesterday and that is already part of a new clinton campaign ad. take a look. >> the belief that you can do anything you want to a woman. it is cruel. it's frightening. and the truth is, it hurts. if we let hillary's opponent win this election, then we are sending a clear message to our kids that everything they're seeing and hearing is perfectly okay. we are validating it. we are endorsing it. >> reporter: so there you have michelle obama in what the clinton campaign says is a speech she decided she wanted to give herself. i think we can expect to see a lot more of michelle obama on the campaign trail in what's left of this campaign. >> just going back a couple of questions to follow up here, kasie. the idea that some of the e-mails in podesta's e-mail account could go back in two weeks, after the dnc leaks, were there no changes in how they handled e-mail? not in an attempt to hide but knowing there had been hacks in the past? >> reporter: the clinton campaign itself if you remember at that time during the convention, there were a lot of questions about whether clinton e-mails, that the clinton campaign e-mails were hacked. at the time, the campaign was saying privately there had been no evidence such a thing had occurred. of course, the dnc had seen it happen, had brought in an outside firm to try to help mitigate it and figure out what had gone on and new questions about what exactly has happened with the clinton campaign itself. tamron? >> thank you very much, kasie. the same day the bombshell "access hollywood" tape released, he believes five men wrongly convicted from the '80s are guilty and now one of them says trump rhetoric is making him fear for his life. it was a case that was with racial tensions in 1989. you know the story i'm sure. five teenagers, four black and one hispanic accused of raping a white woman jogging in central park and the teens became known as the central park five and sent to prison after giving what they say were coerced confessions but exonerated in 2002 after the dna came forward. and they admitted they were guilty. the police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. the fact that the case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous. an op-ed said because of trump's comments, he is now, quote, overwhelmed with nagging fear that an overzealous trump supporter might take matters into his own hands and joins us now. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you for having me on your show. >> you know, i think a lot of people have asked this question. particularly, in the republican primary. why weren't people discussing more of donald trump's past, especially as it related to the central park five? there was a documentary that just came out. he was featured in that documentary that followed your case, but little has been discussed about it. why do you believe that was the situation here until now? >> back in 1989, the judgment to convict and really find the perpetrators who did the crime that they went out and basically tried to do anything and everything in their power to see if they could get a win and unfortunately, what that meant for us is that we were crucified in the media. donald trump taking out the full page ads, i don't think it was two weeks later. i mean, this crime happened in 1989, may 1st, the ads were running in new york city's newspapers calling for the reinstatement of the death penalty and calling for similar way to what he's saying now, he wants to be the law and order president and wanted the police to be given back the power to do anything and everything to the citizens of this country and that sounds like we're talking about going back in time as opposed to moving forward. the fact that the truth came out, the fact there's overwhelming evidence, we did not do this crime and the fact that the city settled with us and the d.a.'s office produced what we moe know as the nancy r report, robert said, had we known then what we know now, there would not have even gone after us. >> when you talk about the full page ad, let's bring it up so people don't know about it, after just a few weeks after the incident, donald trump came out with the ad. bring back the death penalty. bring back our police. he uttered similar support of police on the campaign trail and some say he's exploiting the tensions between minority communities and police even today. in 2014, he slammed this $41 million settlement paid as a result of you being in prison for seven years. now, with this news, that behavior that he's accused of even though the statute of limitations has passed on some of them could have been a criminal act. and he was calling you a criminal. does that vindicate your feelings about, does that give you satisfaction in some way? i guess i'll put it that way. >> in a way, it really doesn't. because donald trump is a really good at this bait and switch kind of thing. you know what i'm saying? this all over again. he was saying things on camera. it's not like he's 20, 30 for that matter. he's a 60-year-old man and saying things that are very, very disturbing to the american public. >> yousef, the president has been talking about this on the campaign trail as was the first lady. i need to take our audience to president obama but thank you so much for joining me. hope to speak to you soon. let's listen to president obama in cleveland, ohio. >> mayor frank jackson is here. and although he's campaigning elsewhere in the state, i want the make sure we give a shoutout to your former governor and the next united states senator from ohio, ted strickland. well, i love you back. thank you guys. thank you. so this is probably be one of the last times i'm going to cleveland as your president. i'll come back, but just go to a game. but understand michelle and i, our lease was only eight years. so now we're making sure we didn't break any china, making sure haven't ruined too many carpal tunnel carpets. we want to get our security deposit back, but we are so grateful, so blessed to have all your support over these years and it's been a great privilege. and i remember when we were campaigning here on that closing day and we were in the midst of two long wars. put an enormous burden on our military families. we were in the early days of what would turn out to be the worst economic crisis of our lifetimes. you had all kinds of challenges from health care, to climate change where we weren't even pretending to do something about it. we were just kicking the can down the road. and i told you then eight years ago that i wasn't a perfect person. i wasn't going to be a perfect president. but what i guaranteed you was that i would work every single day as hard as i could to make sure that working families all across this country got a better deal. and you gave me the honor of serving you and eight years later, we have fought our way back from recession. we have helped our auto industry set new records. our businesses have turned job losses into 15 million new jobs. we slashed our dependence on foreign oil. hold on a second, young man. don't be interrupting everybody, come on. come on, sir. come on. come on, everybody. let's do our little chant. hillary, hillary, hillary! hillary, hillary! all right, i think we're okay now. i noticed this has been happening everywhere. and i keep on telling folks, you got to organize your own rallies. you know, if you're confident about the other guy, just go to his rallies. i feel confident about my candidate. that's why i'm at this rally. so you don't have to spend time over here. you know, go knock on some doors for your guy. that's a better way for you to spend your time. unless you're just being paid to be here. in which case, you know, everybody got to make a living. where was i? so eight years ago, we were in tough situations. but because of your resilience, because of your faith in each other, in this country, we have slashed our unemployment rate in half. incomes are rising again. in fact, incomes went up last year by the largest amount that has ever been measured. poverty is falling. last year, poverty went down faster than anytime since 1968. 20 million people have health insurance who didn't have it before. the uninsured rate is at an all-time low. we brought more of our brave troops home to their families. we delivered justice to osama bin laden. marriage equality is a reality in all 50 states. by almost every measure, our economy is better than it was when we came into office. and that's not just true across the country. it's true right here in ohio. you just look at the auto industry. that was flat on its back when we came into office and now, it's selling the best cars in the world and it's doing as well or better than ever before. and that means there's hundreds of thousands of folks here in ohio that have benefitted. so we've been busy, but i'm here to tell you. you want me to tell you? i'm here to tell you that all of that progress goes out the window if we don't make the right choice right now. and it shouldn't be a complicated choice because it's choice between who is qualified as anybody who has run for this office and somebody who has proven himself unfit to lead or represent this country the way that we love. and i've said this before. democrats and republicans have always had their differences. and that's a good thing. that's how democracy is supposed to work and when i was running against john mccain, when i was running against mitt romney, we had serious disagreements in debates about economic policy and foreign policy and social policy. and those elections were close. and i thought, i have the better argument and i would be the better president, but i could have seen either one of them serving honorably, not embarrassing us on the world stage. they would have engaged in legitimate debates and normal democratic processes. but that's not the case with today's republican nominee. he doesn't have the temperament. he doesn't have the knowledge. he doesn't seem to have the interest in acquiring the knowledge. or the basic honesty that a president needs to have. and that was true before we heard him talking about how he treats women. don't boo, vote. and that was true. when he talked about how muslims are unpatriotic or when he talked about how mexicans were rapists or when he made fun of somebody who was disabled or he talked about our veterans and our troops and gold star. you don't have to be a husband or a father to know that that kind of language, those kinds of thoughts, those kinds of actions are unacceptable. they're not right. you just have to be a decent human being and for those of you who didn't have a chance to hear michelle yesterday talk about what it meant to her. i could not be prouder of her. i said yesterday that this is why i married her to improve my gene pool, so my daughters would be smarter than me. but she was sticking up, yes, she was sticking up for women. yes, she was thinking about the le lessons we're teaching the next generation. she was also talking on behalf of men who know we're better than this. who don't want to teach our sons the kind of things we've been hearing on television. that believe that one of the measures of any society is how does it treat its women? how does it treat its girls? are you treating them with respect and dignity and equality? and if you believe that we are better than what we've been hearing, the good news is, as she pointed out, there's something we can do about it. right here in ohio, a battleground state. ohio is always close and so you can vote early right now. early voting started on wednesday. and i know everybody here is early voting because otherwise you wouldn't be here. if you stood in line to get to this rally, you've got enough sense to get to early vote. but for those of you who may not be here, and you don't even know if you're registered, go to iwillvote.com/locate and you can find the early vote site near you or request a ballot. iwillvote.com/locate. this is not an infomercial. this is an opportunity for you to exercise your right to vote, your civic responsibility. the essence of citizenship and you don't need to wait until election day. you have a chance to reject a dark and pessimistic vision of a country where we turn against each other or we turn away from our role in the world. you can reject a politics of fear and resentment and blame and anger and hate. you can choose the america we know ourselves to be. a country full of courage and optimism. a country full of generosity and ingenuity. you know, we've got real challenges. still, when i ran eight years ago, i said, we're not going to solve everything in one presidency. we've got real challenges. there are folks out there who are still struggling to pay the bills. students who still try to figure out how to pay off student loan debt. there are parents who are still concerned about caring for a sick child or worried about whether they're going to be able to keep their home. everybody is worried about political gridlock. all across the country, people are concerned about the possibilities of increased racial division. there are pockets of ohio and america, despite the tprogress we've made that haven't recovered from factory closures. there are young people worried about whether they'll have the same opportunities that we've had, but i will tell you this. i've traveled all 50 states. i have talked to hundreds of thousands of people. and what i've seen more than anything else is everything that's good about america, everything that's right about america. i see people working hard. i see people starting businesses. i see teachers teaching kids, taking money out of their own pockets to make sure they've got school supplies. i've seen doctors who are out there serving the indigent and poor to make sure they have health care. i've seen men and women in uniform serving to make sure we are safe. i've seen police officers and law enforcement and first responders who run into danger instead of running away from it. i've seen young activists who would call on us to live up to our highest ideals. i see a young generation that is full of energy and ideas and is not going to be held back by what is right now, but is going to seize what ought to be. and i see most of all, americans of every party, background, every faith who believe we're stronger together. young, old, black, white, latino, asian, native american, folks with disabilities, all of us allegiance to the same proud flag and there's one candidate in this race who devoted her life to that vision of a better america and that is the next president of the united states, hillary clinton. now, her opponents made it pretty clear, he's just going to drag this election as low as it can possibly go. and he figures if he makes our politics just toxic, then maybe you'll just figure out, you got no good choices and just get discouraged, don't vote. but don't fall for it. because i'm telling you right now, hillary one of the smartest, toughest, best prepared one of the most experienced persons to ever run for this job. you know, there's nothing that completely prepares you for what it's like to manage a global crisis or send a young person to war, but hillary's been in the room when those decisions were made. she's been a first lady. she has been a senator. she has been my secretary of state. and each and every job, she has worked tirelessly and diligently and she's listened to the american people. she's done her homework. she has performed. she knows what the decisions that a president makes mean concretely for a soldier or veteran, a kid who needs a great education, for a worker still looking for a good job or a raise or a decent retirement. even in the middle of a crisis, she keeps her cool and she pays everybody the proper respect. and most importantly, no matter how tough the odds, no matter how much people try to knock her down, she doesn't point fingers or whine. she doesn't talk about how everything is rigged. she just works harder and gets the job done and never, ever quits. she doesn't quit and she doesn't make excuses. and by the way, isn't that what you want from a president? you know, i noticed her opponent, he seems to be in the middle of a game making excuses all the time for why he might be losing. it's always interesting to me to see people who talk tough but then don't act tough. because if you're tough, you don't make excuses. you don't start complaining about the refs before the game is even done. you just play the game, right? that's what hillary clinton is doing. she's out there playing the game. she's just in the arena for you fighting every single day fighting to make sure that everybody gets a fair shake. that's what she's doing. there's not a person out there who's been more qualified to serve as our president, that includes me and that includes bill. and she's going to be great at it. she's got real plans to address the things she's heard from you, specific ideas to invest in new jobs. specific ideas to help workers share in their company's profits, specific ideas to make sure that fewer jobs move overseas, to make sure that jobs come back in places that have been abandoned. to invest in our people, put kids in preschool, put students through college without taking on a ton of debt. you know, her opponent may be getting headlines threatening to sue the press for stories he doesn't like. you know what hillary is doing? talking about what we need to do to fight climate change. she put forward a child tax credit that would help millions of families. she wasn't complaining or whining or fighting. she was just doing the work. and that's what you want from a president. somebody who's going to sit there and do the work for you. you know, her opponent, he doesn't make very specific plans. if you asked his opponents right now, if you asked his supporters right now, it would be really hard for them to describe what exactly they were going to do. he says he's great at making deals, but as i pointed out, i don't know a lot of people who operate a casino and manage to lose almost a billion dollars in one year. you know, usually the house wins, you know what i'm saying? house always wins, unless he owns the house. then it loses a billion dollars. i don't know a lot of successful business people who just use that failure, losing a billion dollars to then avoid paying federal income taxes. he said it makes him smart. all it does is it means he's not doing what all of us as citizens should be doing, which is giving back to our troops, and our veterans and our roads and our schools and making sure that america continues to be the the greatest nation on earth. that's part of citizen shship n trying to weasel out. that's why you leave the country? you teach everybody how to avoid doing their responsibilities? he rooted for a housing crisis because he said, you know, i it might help his real estate situation. he said that's called business. filed for brupts six times and then allowed him to stiff small business and workers that had already done work for him and owed money. when your concern isn't about the small business that is just trying to make ends meet, you'd rather make a buck off their dreams but not being honest on the other side of your deal, you can't claim to lead this country. you're not fit to be president of the united states. and i have to say, because he's getting some support from some working folks and i want to say to them, look, if a guy spent 70 years on this earth showing no regard for working people, there's no record that he's supported minimum wage or supported collective bargaining or invested in poor communities and then suddenly he's the champion of working people? come on. come on, man. apparently, his speech yesterday, he started talking about global elites, there's a conspiracy of global elites. this is a guy who spent all his time hanging around trying to convince everybody he was a global elite. talking about how great his buildings are, how luxurious and how rich he is and flying around everywhere, all he had time for was celebrities. and now suddenly, he's acting like he's a populist out there. i'm going to fight for working people. come on, man. you want to know what somebody is going to do? look at what they've been doing their whole lives. and if you want a leader who actually values hard work and respects working americans and if you want higher wages and better benefits and a fair tax code and equal pay for women and stronger regulations and wall street, then you should vote for hillary clinton. if you want to know who's going to keep you safe in a dangerous world, the choice is even clearer. hillary's going to make sure we finish the job at defeating isil without resorting to torture or banning entire religions from our country and she's got the knowledge and the experience and the temperament to be the next commander in chief. you can't have a guy who's insulted p.o.w.s and attacks a gold star mom. and called our troops and veterans weak. and cozies up to dictators and tells our allies we might not stand by their side unless they pay up first. he may be up at 3:00 a.m. in the morning because he's tweeting insults to somebody who got under his skin. of that's not the the kind of president you want. not fit to be commander in chief. and not fit to lead the world's greatest democracy. and by the way, this is somebody who threatens to jail his political opponents or silence the media? who welcomes russian meddling in the electoral process and is now suggesting that if the election country go his way, it's not because of the stuff he said, but it's because it's rigged and it's a problem. you know, some nations do operate that way. and they're tyrannies and they're oppressive. they're not the world's greatest democracy. we have fought against those kinds of things. we say in a democracy, you can't threaten to jail your opponents. there are things called due process. you can't just ban reporters or press that you don't like. because there's this thing called the first amendment. in a democracy, you have a contest but if you lose, then you say, congratulations and you move on because the country and our system of government is bigger than any single individual. that's what we do. the united states of america has always stood for something better. which, by the way, i said this last night. i got to go back to this again. it's part of why i'm disturbed about republican elected officials who know better but are still supporting this guy. you know, i said in part what's happened here over the last eight years, republican officials who know better, some of whom i talk to. they're sane people. they're normal folks. but what they've done is they've allowed a lot of crazy talk to just be pumped out again and again through all kinds of these media outlets. conspiracy theories, i was born outside of this country and hillary and i started isil and we're going to impose martial law and trying to take everybody's guns away and crazier stuff than that. and a lot of republican elected officials have just stood by. a lot of house members, a lot of senators, they stood by and they didn't say anything because it was a way to rile up their base. and it was a way to mount opposition to whatever we were trying to do. and over time because a lot of the hardcore republican partisan voters were just hearing this stuff over and over again. they started to believe it. and that's what allowed donald trump suddenly to emerge. donald trump didn't build on this crazy conspiracy stuff. and some republicans who knew better stood by silently and even during the course of this campaign, didn't say anything. i mean, i know that some of them now are walking away. but why did it take you this long? you said you were the party of family values. you weren't appalled earlier when he was saying degrading things about women? when he was judging them based on a score of a 2 or a 10? that wasn't enough for you? you're walking away from him now. it wasn't disturbing enough for you when he was saying mexicans who come here are rapists? or suggesting that people, patriotic americans of the islamic faith somehow are suspect and should be treated differently? that wasn't enough? you know, i'm glad that some of them now said, wow, this is really bad. i guess we need to, we need to walk away, but if you're doing it just for political expedience to look at poll numbers and say, this might get me in trouble, that's not enough. if you say you're about family values, you've got to be about family values all the way through. if you say you spent all these years extolling reagan and how tough he was with the russians, how is it that you suddenly stand silently when you nominate a guy who says his, a guy he admires is the former head of the kgb? if you say you're about the constitution and opposed to what obama is doing with executive actions because that shows, he's a tyrant, but you're okay with a guy who says to his opponent in the middle of the debate, i'm going to throw you in jail. how does that work? how does it work? and that's why i want everybody to understand what's at stake here. you know, one of the things i've learned these past eight years is that progress is hard. you've got to battle it out. even when you have victories, like the affordable care act. it's not always perfect. and you've got to work to make it better and you take two steps forward on something like climate change, there's going to be folks who try to push you back and the special interests are strong and it is true that the country is so often divided along party lines and it's very hard to get folks to compromise. and hillary understands all that, but what she also knows is that if you stay at it and you work hard, good things can happen. she knows that in a democracy as big and diverse as this, we can't demonize each other. we can't just refuse to compromise, even when we're right, we've got to work with other folks. she knows you've got to listen to each other, and see ourselves in each other and fight for our principles. she believes that there's common ground out there. and she believes that we can and should conduct ourselves better, that our leaders are not going to be perfect but we should aspire to at least express the de s decency and goodness of the american people, not just our worst impulses. we should conduct ourselves with just a basic sense of what this country is about. a certain sense of dignity. and that's not always flashy. that doesn't always grab headlines. that's not always the thing that will get you on the news. that's not always going to fit on a tweet. politics doesn't always lend itself to that. but if we want progress, if we want progress, we've got to work for it. progress, it doesn't always come right away and we don't always get 100% what we want but if we keep at it the way hillary kept at it decade after decade, progress happens and if you don't believe that, ask the 20 million or more americans that have health insurance today that didn't have it before. ask all those auto workers right here in ohio who had been laid off and thought their plan was going to shut down and now they're working double shift because we're cranking out so many cars. ask the proud marine who no longer has to hide the husband he loves. ask the young persons who are getting more help now to pay off their student loans. change is possible but it doesn't depend on one person. it depends on all of us. young people especially out there, i want you to know, you've been through a lot. you've grown up through war, recession, all kinds of incredible change but i have seen in you the best in america. i see that you don't try to turn against each other. you try to look out for each other. i know you care about being open to the world, not turning away from it. i know that you believe in an inclusive society and an innovative society and a vibrant society and you believe in democracy. and i see the tsame values in yu that have always driven this country forward. decency and honesty and hard work and civilly. they are not old fashioned, but timeless. they're what binds this country together. and so even though sometimes politics can seem frustrating, even though sometimes our democracy can seem mean spirited, you have a chance right now to reject that kind of politics. you have a chance to reject the politics of fear. you can lift again back up the politics of hope. let's not go backwards. let's go forward. you've got a chance to elect a woman who spent her entire life trying to make this country better. don't fall for the easy cynicism that says your vote doesn't matter. don't fall for what trump tries to do and just make everybody depressed. don't believe it. i promise you, your vote counts. your vote matters. there was a time when folks couldn't vote. when you had to guess the number of jellybeans in a jar to vote. the must remember of soap bubbles on a bar of soap to vote. folks were beaten to vote. they risked everything to vote. and this election, whatever the issue you care about, it could not be easier for you to vote. if you care about inequality, you need to vote. if you felt the burden in the primaries, you need to vote. you can vote for somebody who cares about themselves or somebody who fights like heck for working people. make sure we have a minimum wage raise and equal pay for equal work. you care about criminal justice reform and civil rights. you can vote for somebody who has fought against civil rights for most of their life or you can vote for somebody who went under cover to make sure that minority kids were getting an equal check and a good education. that's never stopped fighting since. you care about the environment and climate change. you can vote for somebody who thinks that it's a chinese hoax or you can vote somebody that thinks that there's something called science. and that we should pay attention to it. and will fight to protect our planet. immigration reform and continue to see this nation as one that is a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants, then you've got to get out there and vote. donald trump's closing argument is, what does he have to lose? the answer is everything. all the progress we've made right now is on the ballot. civility on the ballot. tolerance on the ballot. courtesy is on the ballot. honesty is on the ballot. equality is on the ballot. kindness is on the ballot. all the progress we made the last eight years is on the ballot. democracy itself is on the ballot right now. so if you want to send a message, make it loud. turn back, turn back the voices of cynicism, turn back the voices of ignorance. send a message to progress. send a message of hope. send a message by voting for hillary clinton and show our kids and the rest of the world, we remain the greatest country in the world. thank you, everybody. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> president obama in cleveland, ohio, noting this may be his final visit, at least as president to this critical state. let's talk about what we just saw with thbs news politicnbc n candidate rick tyler, msnbc news political analyst, howard fineman and annie linski. let's start off with you. yesterday michelle obama, today president obama in ohio. it looks like they are trying to wrap this up while we are all waiting for three weeks to tick away. >> they are clearly trying to wrap it up in a bow and deliver it to hillary clinton. i thought one of the interesting parts of the speech was at the end where obama is really trying to tell people get out to vote. to the extent that donald trump has a strategy which is questionable it is to depress the vote. what he wants to do is convince millennials and women to stay home with all of his bringing up bill clinton's misdeeds again. what michelle obama and the president were trying to do is counter that especially in ohio. it looks like it's in her column again. >> i have to get the panel to hang on for a second. howard, stand by and rick. chris jansing is standing by with a new development out of cleveland. chris, you have the white house director there? >> yeah. we have the white house director of political strategy. he was backstage here. we have exclusive access before the president went out. he'll be on air force one with him. he was riffing a lot on donald trump. what's in his head now? >> we have 25 days left to make an argument that isn't just about democrats and republicans. so the president and the first lady go out, chris, in the context of all the work they put in for eight years and understanding the stakes the american people are facing and what's on the ballot. >> reporter: you hear here's the affirmative case for her. it seems he was going off script about donald trump. what's in his head? what's motivating that? >> again, chris, it's what he said. he's seen the american people for eight years. he's seen the decency and the goodness and the hard work. and the way that at the end of the day really people turn to each other. unfortunately what you hear on the other side is just the opposite. >> reporter: but trump -- no? come on. >> with all the president of the united states faced in the past eight years it's pretty fair to say nothing gets under his skin. >> reporter: the biggest applause line was for those of you who didn't hear michelle yesterday, i understand he watched the speech in the limousi limousine. what was his reaction to the speech which is blowing up on social media? >> complete pride. what you heard the first lady talk about yesterday wasn't politics. it wasn't democrats and republicans. it was human decency. goodness. when she said, i want to talk to you as women, as americans and as people. when she was articulating in an amazing way people feel on a day to day basis, what men feel on a day to day basis isn't blue versus red. that's the quintessential michelle obama. the pride he felt that you heard about -- >> reporter: i heard he was fist-pumping. >> those are state secrets. i can't get into it. >> reporter: there is a little competitiveness. they joke about it. when i was at the white house last week everyone thought she one-ups the president and her approval ratings are higher than his. you have these two working for one candidate. what state secrets can you share? >> i can't divulge any state secrets. but you see when he talks about the first lady. when the first lady talks about the president it's a partnership that's developed over years and years. what they have been through together as a family, as husband and wife. as parents over the past eight years is extraordinary. frankly, as someone who works for them i've got to tell you the pride i feel because you see the dignity and elegance and the grace and the respect they bring to their jobs and to each other is really inspiring. >> you became close to the president because you are the guy who knows. you can micro look at every part of the country. you talk to the president about political strategy. that's your job. talk about this, what we saw with michelle obama in manchester. how does it play into the strategy to get hillary clinton re-elected? it seems like you are preaching to the choir. >> the key the to any appearance by the president, first lady, vice president biden is the coverage -- and thank you for it -- and what happens on the ground. how many volunteers come out of it? how many new e-mail addresses? how many text informations come out of it? you can be sure that secretary clinton's ohio team today is going to turn the energy here into early vote. it will turn the energy into new shifts for volunteers. that's what a good feel organization does. at the end of the day in a close race if you have a good field it's one, two or three points. that's the strength of michelle obama in new hampshire, barack obama in ohio. that's what you will see them doing over the next three weeks. >> we heard from them. what we have heard from the hillary campaign and hillary clinton herself is we take nothing for granted. we'll work every day. never look at the polls three weeks out and say, oh, we got this. when i talk to senior members of the white house staff they say the value to the president is detail. you know what's going on in the country. what keeps you up at night now when you think about wanting to get hillary clinton re-elected? >> you know at any campaign first of all fundamentally you have to run as if you are behind. you have to make sure the infrastructure you have, the turn out, the message is in line and in synch. we are beginning early voting now. >> reporter: what are the early trends telling you? >> there are numbers in places like north carolina and florida which democratic turn out is higher than anything you saw in 2012 or 2008. that's organization. >> reporter: what are you worried about? >> i worry about everything. i have to. >> reporter: more specifically? >> i'm not going to share specifically what i worry about. >> let's talk quickly in the last 30 seconds about ohio. talk to the democratic and republican party chair. they say it is dead even. what are you watching here? >> early vote. where it's coming from. how does it compare to past cycles and the two campaigns, if they are doing a good job, will look to see if the people who are voting are new or simply people who will vote november 8 anyhow doing it earlier. that's the data the campaigns need to look at. we'll do that. >> reporter: all right. david simas, thank you. >> welcome home. >> reporter: thank you so much. that's the president's director of the office of political strategy and outreach. talking to folks on the ground they hope and believe michelle obama will also come here between now and election day. they see the power in terms of not just ratcheting up the base but getting people to volunteer. we'll have david with us later on msnbc. >> when you see the reaction from the crowd just today, i heard you talking early about the working class neighborhood. your father supported the democratic party going back there now. the event you were at and the battle for voters in the old neighborhood. >> 35 miles from here is where i grew up. my father was a factory worker. your parents were also factory workers as my dad was. when i talk to them. when i go back to my hometown which is heavily democratic, union. there are so many trump signs in the yard i never would have seen before. how do you convince them strategically they should not vote for donald trump. >> the argument that secretary clinton will give in the early weeks is about the same values they care about. hard work, honesty, not taking short cuts. it is about doing things the right way, committing your life to that. >> we'll talk to you more later today. >> great job. thank you for watching all week long. we appreciate it. i'm tamron hall. we'll be right back on monday. "andrea mitchell reports" is now. >> thank you very much. now on "andrea mitchell reports" striking back. donald trump lashing out at his accusers and with the electoral map slipping away, firing up conspiracy theories that the election will be rigged. >> the corrupt political establishment is a machine. it has no soul. i knew these attacks would come. this is a conspiracy and we cannot let this happen or continue. >> warning shot. mike pence today threatening a trump campaign info dump against the women accusing trump of inappropriate behavior. >> i think it's coming. it's coming in, frankly, probably in a matter of hours. >> reporter: >> triple threat. two obamas and one biden taking down trump with the first lady in the lead. >> it has shaken me to my core in a way i couldn't have predicted. the belief that you can do anything you want to a woman?