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Clinton telling her opponent time to wipe the premises. From the start donald trump built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. He is taking hate groups mainstream. And helping a radical fringe take over. Behave the very latest from reno, nevada where clint yop just wrapped up those remarks. Also Donald Trumps rebuttal, not backing down at all on rhetoric that clinton supporters are calling offensive. Kis÷ if you want to have strong borders so that people come into our country, but they come in legally through k÷ ayhl legal p, that doesnt make you a racist, it makes you smart. It makes you an wtamerican. But a new poll suggests that voters disagree with that. And trumps former opponent calling out his immigration policy pivot. Whole thing 5j5n that donal trump railed against he seems to be morphing into kind of disturbing. We will bring you more of what jeb bush had to say and talk to a former member of his campaign coming up. Lets begin now with our top story and it is a dramatic one. Hillary clinton in reno, nevada launching this new attack on donald trump today and linking him to what she called hate groups. On david dukes radio show the other day the mood was jubilant. We appear to have takin over the Republican Party, one white supremacist said. Duke laughed. No, theres still more work to. So no one should have any illusions about what is really going on here. The names may have changed. Racists now call themselves racialists. White supremacists now call3cmw themselves white nationalists. The alt right but the hatea8s just as bright. And now trump is trying to rebrand himself as well. But dont be fooled. The Clinton Campaign previewed what he just heard from her and donald trump dismissing attackses in advance of her actual speech. It ssu the oldest play in t democratic play book. When democraticeusn policies fa they are left with only this one tired argument. Youre racist, youre racist. They keep saying it. Youre racist. Joining us on the phone from inside the Clinton Press sa this is a step further than we have ever heard from her before. Talk about what Hillary Clinton had to say and why they decided to go this far. nc nhay, chris. Apl jies if we come in and out here. We are moving along in this motorcade with Hillary Clinton. This speech was a very broad indictment of donald trump both trying to connect him to the alt right movement and casting him as racist famous. Also calling they1naltright a racist ideology. But really, chris, this speech was aimed in so many waysjnp at moderate republicans in particular. And she seems to try to give people who are members of the p÷ clintons have been back and forth and talking ab c5iu au right wing conspiracy answers hitting republican opponents for years. But here she says what we are seaing now from the altright and Trump Campaign is not conservativism or republicanism, it is Something Else. And it representsi something people should reject and calls it wreckoning that the party of lincoln has become the party of trump. And i think that you heard her address pretty directly this pivot that Trump Campaign is trying to make as they have tried to reach out in recent day and weeks. Cue hispanics. Cuepp5t and saying no this may sound different but it doesnt actually represent a material difference, chris. So where is she off to now . We are off back to new york. She will be returning to the east coast after this. She has more fundraising planned. Planning an appearance in ohio next week. But still part of her final fundraising i j]npush. And we should note that this event was originally planned as an economic one. Focussingz2g economy. She acknowledged that in the top of her speech. Something of an appearance and dropping into the swing state on her way from california to the east coast and [ inaudible ] Something Different here different indeed. Kasie hunt, thanks to you. Katy tur from trump tower now. We heard a prebuttal to the speech and we knew what was coming. Donald trump trying to turn Hillary Clintons argument around on her, right . Absolutely. Trying to prebut this idea that hillary will, if not call him a racist directly, link him to white ku xsupremacist, white nationalists. As they did in that strong and pretty forceful campaign ad earlier today using Donald Trumps lack of disevow on 1 dd using supremacists, white nationalists, supporting donald trump. Man in a kkk costume saying he supports donald trump. This is something that the campaign does not want out there. This is a narrative they are trying to push back forcefully on i can tell you this is one of the quickest responses we have seen from the campaign itself when it comes to an attack against donald trump. Usually trump will go out and twitter and fight back or he will fight back himself at a rally but the campaign or very early on this. Almost immediately trying to spin this message. Trying to say it was disgutting that Hillary Clinton was trying to paint him this way. They are clearly sensitive to it. Especially at the moment they are trying to make a more forceful appear to black and hispanic americans to get them to support him. He is using language like what the hell do you have to use to those communities. Still, it is done in front of mostly white crowds leaving some to wonder if the reality of did Donald Trumps message is he is trying to appeal more towardsn moderate gop white voters. Women specifically. And not necessarily minority voters in this country trying to turn them out in higher numbers because he realizes that the minority vote might be just too hard to get at this point. Right now polling, chris, between 1 and 2 among africanamericans that is a worst since 1988 except for barry gold water. He doesnt support the civil rights act. And also a little bit, not quite as bad as john mccain was, but john mccain was going up against president obama who became the first africanamerican president. So you have this push back against the idea that clearly he is sensitive to that he is a bigot. And then youve got this pressure coming at him from fellow republicans today including some who have run against him in the past. A lot of ted cruz supporters have had things to say about what his, they say, see as his back tracking on immigration and jeb bush as well. G xsn and rivals say he will come pri election. And remember donald trump went forcefully after jeb bush and marco rubio for supporting3htan kind of idea of amnesty for being part of the gang of eight. Saying that undocumented immigrants should get so n; of illegal or legal status in this country. Having him say that today is making many people say that he is basically just adopted jeb bushs plan and jeb bush responded to that flabbergasted and just now on wabc radio. Listen up. His views are, they seem to be ever changing depending on what crowd he is in front of. Sounds like a typical politician where you get in front of one crowd and say one thing and Say Something else to another crowd that may want to hear a different view. All the things that donald trump railed against he seems to be morphing into. It is kind of disturbing. The campaign is not calling this a flipflop saying he will always uphold0 saying he is changing his language but they are a to call this a flipflop and refusing to say donald trump changed his position. Chris . Katy tur, thank you very much. Now bringing in former chairman of the rnc and msnbc contributor. Guys, i dont remember a time in modern history where we had this kind of conversation that we heard over the course of just a couple of hours. I mean youve had each candidate calling the other a bigot. Openly stating arguments about ray sims, motivation, tactics, Hillary Clinton accusing donald trump of taking hate groups mainstream. Donald trump voicing what a lot of republicans have felt for a long time. That when theres a problem that should be answered with policy. The democrat answer it with charges of racism. I want in the broader politics and where we are as society, michael, i will start with you, what do you make of this . I dont like it. I think is very disturbing. It undermines a very importantt argument. We still as a nation need to have all of the questions of race, racism, bigotry, which are very much a part of the american fabric. We like to live in this idealic world chris that we sort of got past that because there was a civil rights bill, a Voting Rights bill. We elected a black man president of the United States. But as we have seen in recent years, the underpinnings of what has really kind of opinion fermenting beneath the surface are still there and still very much a part of the of what is going on in everyday life. So when you start throwing around these termsvhq bigot and racist, over something political, to me it takes you down a very important discussion that we need to haveyz when the is real racism and bigotry that needs to be addressed. edo u an, what do you make of thiarldiscussion some. I partially agree with my good wai friend, chairman steel. But you have donald trump calling Hillary Clinton a bigot with no evidence and yet here we just listened to Hillary Clintons speech where she laid outvt things that donald trump s said. People involved in his campaign, his new campaign chairman. The fight he ran. Headlines that they ran. e she went a step further. She outlined what she says is a history of racist behavior on his part. Went through practices in housing, in employing people in casinos, in the birther movement. Mexican immigration. She did a point by point tak down saying this proves, this isnt just my opinion, these are things that prove donald trump is a racist. And this gets to the larger point of what i was make. This is amplifies what she was saying in terms of expressing her concern about the tenor and i lc since about february. Remember, donald trump, since june 25, 2015, when he announced his president ial campaign, he had divisive wlaj language in there. And throughout the year Hillary Clinton has been making the same arguments about, not just donald trump where she, as you said, outlined and connected him personally to the divisive things, but also very much concerned i interviewed her last month, and she is very much concerned about the tenor and tone of Donald Trumps campaign and what that is doing to american politics. She said, she told me that she thought it was a threat to our democracy and she said it is frightening that someone running for president of the United States wants to show some discord and divisiveness. This isnt just her trying to score political point on donald trump. This is her expressing a real concern for the future of the country. Trump returned the favor, saying Hillary Clinton is the bigot. Let me play a sound. It is time to give the democrats some competition. For africanamerican votes and for hispanic votes. Hillary clinton is a bigot. Who votes. Not as human beings. Worthy of a better future. But we also know and in bringing up the teleprompter there, michael, a lot of this is driven by his kpu new campaign staff. A lot from kellyanne conway. Very smart polster. New poll out from quinnipiac that says 59 of likely voters feel that the way trump speaks plays to bigotry. How does this argument play out for the electorate. I think that that is something they need to be very concerned about. To be quite honest about it. I think if youve got a significant majority of americans, some who may even like you or who like to like you or maybe even support you feeling that youre kind of playing to this dog whistle, using this dog whistle on race, you do have to correct it. Igch1r think is appropriate and overdue toahave thehrir conversn on the republican side,t1 the president ial level, and consistent way about how we are going to work with african africanamerican communities and other communities of color on big issues that are important to them. But it does matter how you say it. It is very important how you frame it and you have to deal with past rhetoric, unfortunately. You cant walk away from that. 21 and i think though that the otherkr[ side of that coin is te is some evidence to suggest that when convenient and when opportune, and i know this firsthand as having been a candidate for office, democrats do conveniently play this card, whether Hillary Clinton going and adopting, effecting a southern draw when talking to black folks, plays the other way. This goes back it my first point about how both parties tend to manipulate these questions and issues around race in a way that they think is add vvantageous t them in the moment. I think it undermines the serious argument we need to have, or discussion we need to have. Gentlemen, were out of time. Important and provocative conversation. Michael steele, jonathan capehart, thank you both. We will talk more about this, about the altright movement and donald trump. We will speak with the ceo of the antidefamationegn league. And trump went after jeb bush in immigration plans but hisco new approach sounds an awful lot like jeb. And Snl Leslie Jones recently took a break from twitter over attackes. A pc what scared me is a gang of people jumping against you for ra is so mean. With the right steps, 80 of recurnt ihemic strokes could be prevented. And im doing ali can to help prevent another one. A bayer pirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. The perfect kidfriendly hotel. Simple to book which is great for families. Finally whatever captain obvious. Save up to 50 during the hotels. Com labor day sale. And get an extra 10 off with promo code lastchance. Altright is short for alternative right. Defacto merger between breitbart and thel k Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for this group. A fringe element that has effectively taken over the Republican Party. That is Hillary Clinton with a warning that the06txaltright taken the Republican Party over, with Donald Trumps embrace. How threatening is that tovk÷8 party and what exactly is the altright movement . I want to bring in jonathan from the adl. This is found owned fighting hate. You study hate. You understand hate. Pour people not familiar with this term, that is often just used within political circles, what is altright . So altright is short for alternative right. It is a movement of radical extremists who are not conservative. They aren . < what you might cal x conservative or fundamentalist conservative. They base their ideology on white supremecy. These are valid racist, antisemmites, antiimmigrants. They believe there is a conspiracy against white identity perpetrated by not just the left but by conservatives as well. They are quite dangerous. Some people pushed back on that and said it isp push everybody into who is in the altright movement into this racist category. Is it fair . Well, look, the same people that have this ideology were burning crosses 40 years ago. M. a ing crosses 40 years ago. Twitter but we see the same antisemitism, bigotry, and racism that characterized the extreme right for decades. So trump pushed back hard on his personal association with the hate groups. His campaign saying that no candidate can choose who supports him. He has not in any way endorse these folks. But let me play for you, if we have some sound, what a lot of people criticized from donald trump dating back to earlier this year. Will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you dont want him vote. So you understand, i dont know anything about david duke. I dont know anything about you are talking about with White Supremacy or white supremacist. I dont know. What did you think when you heard that this is. I remember when this came up during the campaign. Know there is anyo america who doesnt know who yo david duke is, to be perfectly frank with pu. I think this is a real problem and extremists and ideology penetrating the mainstream. Lets be clear about one thing. S there are folk in the preside president ial campaign on both sides who have racism. Paul ryan came out but it has been troubling to see these ideas mainstream and energized during season. I want to lookcqz at this in broader context. I dont remember in a president bl campaign maybe dating back to 1963 in George Wallace when we have heard the issue of race and racism discussed in dwight this way. George wallace for people who may not remember and evowed segregation and not drawing a parallel to cdidate here but these kind of conversations that so directly involve hate. I dont know, have we . Have we had these kinds of conversation since then . As you zvz said b been tracking these focner a b hundred years. To be perfectly honest with you, we thought we had marginalized these voices. But i think there are two things happening today that brought out to mainstream. Number one is social media. So these folks who are on the fringes now find way to connect with the4ih n country. A lot of it is done online, right . A lot is doneahi[nonline. They have gone after journalists and press online. We see hatred with journalistes who they identify as jewish using echo symbols that is a very troubling phenomenon. Second thing that is alarming is their language and rhetoric has found its way into the mainstream. Antiimmigrant discussion. Antimuslim discussion. Means like sixpointed star which you might remember. That literally can another controversy involving donald trump. It literally came from a user on social media and suddenly became a topic of conversation. So if you are an employee or anybody who thought that well not racism was dead and now the thought ]cu we had come furthern we maybe have, from the time of George Wallace, what do you do about it . R whether in social media ory a public scare or oped pages or everywhere we canlciu making su everyone knows that racism is real. Antisimmism is real. And if you dont work for what you have

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