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militants. but the big question, where is the help turkey promised . captain america, avengers and some of your other favorite marvel super heros are taking on a villain bullying. we'll show you how that is happening in today's big idea. it is international day of the girl. the day the world shine as light on gender equality. and we're celebrating with julianne hough. thanks for joining us. we want to go straight how to st. louis where at this moment, some 1,000 people are rallying in support of michael brown. the unarmed 18-year-old who was shot and killed by a police officer two months ago. people from all over the country are taking part in what is being billed as a weekend of resistan resistance. several events will take place as organizers hope to build momentum for a national movement against police violence. now, earlier today, people marched through the streets of st. louis using familiar chants and since michael brown was shot and killed on august 9, we have seen this play out several times. >> hands up, don't shoot, hands up, don't shoot. >> amanda, what has this day been like so far there? >> reporter: the march just culminated here within the last hour or so. and now the roughly 1,000 participants are gathered at the heart of st. louis for a rally to really spur on change. and i think that the diversity of this crowd is a true testament of just you how strong of a message this has been and you how successful of a weekend this is starting -- >> black power. >> reporter: -- sorry. but -- sorry about that. but the rally is continuing to go on strong. there are leaders and organizers here that are really getting the crowd moving and later this afternoon, sththey're hoping to have conversations to really spark a national movement. >> moving right up to your microphone. what is the goal of the pro tests? >> reporter: this weekend is really trying to make this more about mike brown,protests? >> reporter: this weekend is really trying to make this more about mike brown, more about just the police brutality, more the underlying racial tensions. this is becoming a national movement, they want to bring on change, more than just protesting in the streets, but trying to bring in legislation on the political level and really spur on any type of movement that will carry on past these amanda, thank you so much. meanwhile, about 12 miles away, police are investigating an unrelated police-involved shooting. on wednesday night, an off duty officer working a second job while in uniform shot and killed 18-year-old von dare von derrick miles. the officer fired 17 times in return. myers facing trial next month for a weapons charge. in an interview with ron allen, myers a myers' parents voiced their frustration. >> people supposed to protect and serve, they're taking their lives with no explanation. >> joining me now, missouri state senator. thanks for joining us. first thing i want to ask, facts on the ground are still pretty unclear as the investigation is ongoing. what does the community want to see happen here? >> i have to tell you after looking at the police report, the facts are inconclusive. there are multiple stories going around. one you have a video of mr. myers with a sandwich and sharing that sandwich with a bunch of his friends. and then you hear a report from the police officer who shot him saying that there was a bush that mr. myers came out of. however, in that community, there aren't many bushes. we also don't know if the finger prip priptss of mr. hires wmyers is gun. so what rlare the factses of th case. what we need to do is make sure that every single witness has the opportunity to communicate and be part of the investigation. the mother says that her son did not have a gun. police officers say there was a gun that was on the premise in the area where the incident happened. so we have to make sure there is a full investigation. there are some who are wanting the department of justice to be part of the investigation. but right now, what we have to do is to gets a much information as possible, tensions are already high. but we have to be reliant on the facts in making sure that there was is a transparent and open investigation. >> and speaking of those tenk tensions, what are you and community leaders doing to calm the situation as best you can? >> every single week, i hold two classes for civic engagement trying to get some of the people who are angry and feeling a lot of pain on the right path so that they are going in a direction that is useful, that is active, that is really a measure to put them in the right direction. we do not want people to be engaged in any violence whatsoever. this weekend of resistance, this weekend has been phenomenal so far. we have the naacp defense fund who has been teaching classes about the recall process as well as writing in candidates. there are a lot of people here in my district who do not want to vote for the democratic candidates nor bob mccullouch i the november election. so many people on the ground want to vote mike brown or the republican. is this this is a sea twhachange and we trying to put the energy in a positive light. >> we're hearing the people behind you, seeing the crowds gather. besides what you you mentioned, what else are you hoping to get out of the events this weekend? >> one thing i hope happens is that people are inspired. when we started this seven, eight weeks ago go, there are so many people who did not know how to direct their energy. and there are a lot of things that have been happening here. we hope this creates an atmosphere where we're peaceful for one and number two, that we are actively engaged in the political process. and so many people for so long have not been engaged. yes, many people have been registered to vote, but they have not come out to vote. so right now, what we're participating in, our civic engagement classes, and we want people to know their rights quite frankly. because rights have been taken away from so many of my constituents. and they're riled up now. which is exciting. and they want to be part of the political process. and they are on their own investigating what they can do to make a difference so that michael brown doesn't happen again and w and mr. myers doesn happen again either. >> are you worried at all that it might turn violent? >> i hope not. i've had many prayers today and the day before and people around the country who want to ensure that this is a peaceful engagement of people who are around the country. you know, there is so much love on the ground right now and we want that to continue to happen. we want to be productive in all of our civil disobedience. but we don't want to be violent. i do not support violence whatsoever. and we're just trying to take those people who have a little bit of anger inside of them and redirect them in the right direction. that's what is important here. we have to look at our laws and how we will clapg those laws. we have also have to communicate with police officers. and they have to be genuine when they correspondent with us. so we're looking for an open and honest discussion. we don't want any barriers in front of us. >> communication is key. missouri state senator, thank you for joining ugs. >> thank you so much. we want to move on now to that new front in the battle against the ebola outbreak. passengers arriving from certain african countries are now being screened at jfk. four other major american airports will start testing passengers on monday. and it's all a stepped up effort to identify inspecfected people before they fully enter the country. hours ago we heard from the cdc and a warning that it is not foolproof. >> no matter how many of these procedures are put into place, we can't get the risk to zero. that will not be the case p. but this additional layer should add a measure of security and assurance to the american public. this entry screening procedure for example would not necessarily have caught the patient in dallas as indicated. >> nbc's kristen dahlgren is at kennedy airport. chrkriste kristen, how has it been going today? >> reporter: we haven't seen any of the passengers come out yet that has gone through the process. it's happening in an isolated area of the airport and they will be released to an undisclosed location. so unlikely that we will hear from them anytime soon. but here's what's happening. a flight from guinea came in m earlier a today. as passengers get off, they're brought to the isolated location. the temperature is taken. determining if anyone has an elevated temperature, a sign of a possible symptom of ebola. they have also been asking passengers where they traveled while they were abroad, whether they were in these countries, whether they came in contact with anyone known to have the ebola virus. from there then, they would set aside those passengers and turn them over to the cdc who would then continue to ask questions, continue do a health assessment. and at that point, the cdc would say you're clear, you're able to get on your next flight continuing on for wherever your final destination is, or they would then perhaps hospitalize them, quarantine them or refer them to some other type of health organization. so this just one more layer in the efforts to stop the ebola virus from spreading here in the u.s.. >> as we mentioned a little bit earlier, we shoied t showed the video, cdc says these new procedures wouldn't have caught thomas duncan. so after they clear the screening process, are they free to go like douncan would have been? >> reporter: they are. ctc and customs and border protection, they do have their that i names. but if it's determined that at this point they're not showing any symptoms, they are free on go to their final destination. >> kristen dahlgren, thank you. and we do have this development for you. ebola patient ashoka mukpo has turned a corner in his treatment. that news has come to us from his father. you'll remember mug poe is the freelance nbc cameraman who contracted the disease while working in west africa. we will of course continue to keep you updated on his condition. u.s. air strikes target isis militants as they advance along the turkey border, but where is the help turkey agreed to give? we have answers. and today is international day of the girl. we're celebrating with julianne hough. find out you how she's marking the day. rough your nose... suddenly you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! how do you sleep like that? you dry up, your cold feels even worse. well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip, and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do. sleep. keep you updated on his find out how she's marking the and sleep right. breathe right. i love having a free checked bag. and sleep right. breathe right. with my united mileageplus explorer card. i have saved $75 in checked bag fees. priority boarding is really important to us. you can just get on the plane and relax. i love to travel, no foreign transaction fees means real savings. we can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the us. when i spend money on this card i can see brazil in my future. i use the explorer card to earn miles in order to go visit my family which means a lot to me. ♪ like a bear? 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united states included when it comes to the idea of the day of the girl. or the needs of girls. >> malala is a huge example of a young woman changing the world. you you know, the recognition that she's been given, that the fight that she's been fighting. and look at what she's done. so for us, i mean, it cooperate come at a better time. for it being day of the girl, it's very fit. it's an amazing time. i feel like you want to get behind something that is actually doing something. so for us, when we think about -- i think it was 65 million girls that were not able to get an education and now we're down to 57 million. so still a long way to go, but we are making progress. so even though it might not be a huge thing right at this moment, just the little thing that you can do helps so much. >> and that was julianne hough from the international day of the girl and richard lui. more than 4,000 people have died from ebola in west africa. up next, we will take you live to the heart of the outbreak where communities are desperately trying to contain the virus. go! wow! go power oats! go! go power! yayyyy! hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection? 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>> i think the first thing that needs to be done is that we need to stop the outbreak as quickly as possible. we need to make sure that those who are sick, they get treatment. and therefore the establishment of construction of the treatment is critical. and we need to ensure that the services that will be provided, people should access the exception s essential services. and the treatment centers so we present stability so it reduces the fear and panic. and of course we need to ensure that in the process of doing that, we prepare the country for any further outbreak in the future. >> you you talk about stopping the spread. and we also mentioned that there was a movement to try to get people from limiting where they could go, but lawmakers reject that had. would that have been i guess a step in the right direction to stopping will outbreak or were they right in saying, no, you can't put those kind of restrictions in place? >> right. i think that restriction was much earlier. but what happened practical if i tell you that communities themselves are initiated their own restrictive measures to make sure that you can not move there one point to another. not because you are being quarantined, but to make sure that you don't goi and g and ge inspefected or if there is infection in your community, you don't get it in another community. policing people will not be very effective. people will tend always to move. but if the communities themselves think that they need to contain and restrict their movements, then it bears weight. >> quickly screenings are starting at u.s. airports for passengers there impacted areas. have you seen an increase in effort to test people before any leave liberia or other west african nations? >> the government is trying everything possible to make sure restrict movement p. if someone is sick, we need to get the dynamics of the disease. definitely you cannot travel. and if someone has to travel, if person has to travel not detected, then we encourage that that airlines should be trained what to do and the airports should also be trained to ensure that if someone infected arrives, there is something for help this person not to spread infection. but many countries are putting in place and also a concern that there are no signs of ebola. >> doctor, we thank you for joining us today. >> you're welcome. >> now, dr. abar, let me bring you in. what do you make of the u.s.' efforts to fight ebola on a global scare? >> well, what we have to know, i totally agree with the other doctor. if we want to stop the spread of ebola in the united states, the first thing we must do is to stop the spread of ebola in west africa. we are a global community and we know that people in west africa, because they are -- have human nature like most people, they are going to want to come to the united states because you to ge situation which caused the situation to have the young man that passed in dallas. he wanted to get out of that area and he came to our area and he had to do whatever he did to get there. so we must contain this, but you we can't just start in america. we have to start in west africa. >> the u.s. is planning to send 4,000 troops to help in the crisis. but with everything that we have money about this virus and we're learning about this virus and the ease that we have to access an station in this country, is there too much panic about a widespread ebola outbreak or not enough? >> well, i think the panic theoretically is appropriate, but what we always have to remember is that we have the protocols in the united states to take care of this stuff on a daily basis in every hospital. we know that the mooez als is more contagious than ebola. so follow the roprotocols alrea in place. if we have a spread, it will be because of the lack of communication with health care workers on the ground and a lack of the coordination between federal agencies to be able to handle the outbreak. it's not going to be because of the veer uhe lens. if you keep your hands washed, universal precautions, this can be contained. if you don't, it will not be. >> a lot of people are looking to the situation in dallas with the man there, thomas duncan, he died and looking at that, that is causing a little bit of fear. he went to the hospital. he went to get help and it still didn't work. >> and that's the thing. if we have protocols and they aren't followed, then we'll have that problem. we at he have hospital in the united states, you're supposed to ask if you have had foreign travel, it was before the ebola outbring brinbreak we used to . and the communication was broken down. so the common things are common, but uncommon things are uncommon. but we live in the age of the uncommon, so we must address that. if you don't follow the pandemic will spread and that will be devastati devastating. >> all right. doctor, thank you so much. we appreciate it. so let's rewind to this day 12 years ago. it was october 11, 2002 when congress gave president george w. bush the go-ahead to attack iraq. the resolution authorized military action if saddam hu hussein did not give up his weapons of mass destruction. >> president bush now has the authorization there congress to go to war with iraq. the senate voted early this morning to approve a force resolution. house approved it on thursday. the resolution calls for the u.s. to work with the united nations and exhaust diplomatic nations before going to war. after the vote, the president said, quote, days of iraq acting like apoutlaw state are coming to an end. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. to an end. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? 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's also a visible player on critical issues ranging from gun reform to sex assaults on college campuses. but vice presidents haven't always been in the limelight in the way joe biden is. let's bring in jewels whittcover. his new company, the american vice presidency. from irrelevant to power. thanks for being with us. vice president biden made diplomatic waves having to apologize for calling out the mideast allies for their lack of participation in the war. what do you make of the position joe biden has been in? >> actually, i think the things that he said that so infuriated others in the arab world haven't happened. the wall street journal recently had an article that said what biden said was correct, that the turks and others, in the arab world had been allowing isis fighters to cross into syria. so factually i think biden was correct. >> so if the facts are all correct, do you think in these moments when people look very deeply into this, they say maybe the vice president is possibly saying what the president can't say? >> well, in any event, i think it probably wasn't wise for him to say. but that's what joe biden is. what you see is what you get. and i think it's refresh to go have somebody in that position who is candid.to go have somebody in that position who is candid. >> johned a d adams this about office, in this i am nothing, but i may be everything. you how has the vice president city changed since way back then? >> well, in those days of course the vice president had only two duties. to stand by in case something happened over the president and to preside over the at some. t senate. the latter one is pretty much routine handled by others now. but for a long time, but for a long time, they were after thoughts. in 1945, he wasn't even aware that he would soon have to make a decision about whether to use the atomic bomb. that was kind of a wake-up call about the vice presidency. but even so, it wasn't until about another 30 years when a president jimmy carter seriously considered somebody for vice presidency who would function with him as almost an assistant president, a full partner in governing the country. i think that was a very, very healthy development perhaps one of jimmy carter's greatest con any abuses to the political system. >> you've dedicated your book to walter mondale writing to walter mondale who first made a reality of the assistant presidency. mondale of course was jimmy carter's vice president. what is the assistant presidency? >> well, the sense that the vice president now functions as the closest adviser to the president and is given actual responsibilities that vice presidents never had before fp. >> only one of our 47 vice presidents was forced to resign in disgrace, spiro agnew. you wrote extensively about that in an earlier book. what made the agnew scandal so infamous? >> well, he was a crook. he took bribes as gruovernor of maryland and even when he got to the white house, people continued to make payments to him. so he certainly was probably the most infamous vice president we've had. we have a few others. but none that candidly breaking the law. >> no one stops that. all right. and y thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, it is called weekend of resistance. we'll take you live to st. louis. plus, an alleged conspiracy involving the cia. contra rebels and crack cocaine. it hits the big screen this weekend. i'll talk to the man helped the book that is now a movie. due cappuccini, per favore. domo... arigato? 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>> reporter: you heard it's not 100%, but this he aabout but th they can get about 94% of travelers coming there ebola-affected countries. more than half come through jfk, so this is the first test of the screening process. we just got new pictures in of that actually happening. some passengers gets in today from the country of guinea. so they went through the extra screening. their temperature a big part of this. the coast guard is using these infrared no touch thermometers so that they are able to tell if anyone is running an elevated temperature which could be a symptom of having ebola. the other thing they're doing is they're looking at where the passengers came from, whether or not they were in these countries and then giving them a questionnaire asking them whether they had contact with anyone who was known to have ebola or could have possibly had the ebola virus. so they're hopeful that by doing that, they're able to determine if anyone is coming into this country with an active ebola virus. >> so we've been talking about the screening and what takes place. but what happens if someone is indeed running a fever or doesn't answer some of these questions to the satisfaction of authorities somewhat happ somew happens to them? >> customs and border protections is doing the initial intake.to them? >> customs and border protections is doing the initial intake. then they would surn turn it ov the cdc and would continue to do a health risk assessment. the cdc could decide the person isn't showing any signs and doesn't seem to have ebola, then they would be told they can go ahead on their next flight. if they do suspect that there is something else, they would be turned over either to a hospital or to another health organization and they could be quarantined at that point just to make extra sure that this isn't somebody who is infecteded a then go on to spread it further. >> how long is it does the screening take? does it mess with the flight schedule? >> it could possibly. the travelers we've spoken to today says this is lives at stake. so even if it is inconvenient, it's worth it in order to be able to stop the spread. but going back to the original point that the cdc was making, that this isn't 100%, in order for there to be zero risk in this country, they're saying it really needs to be stopped in africa, dealt with in africa and stopped that outbreak. and so this really is a global fight. this is just one layer of security here to make sure that it isn't spreading. >> all right. kristen dahlgredahlgren, thank . we also have this development. american ebola patient ashoka mukpo has, quote, turned a corner in his treatment. that news comes to us this afternoon from his father. you'll remember mukpo is the freelance nbc camera than who contracted the disease while working in west africa. he is being treelgted right now contracted the disease while working in west africa. he is being treelgted right now nebraska nebraska. so definitely good news. now to st. louis, missouri where a passion natural large followed by a large rally just ended a few minutes ago.natural followed by a large rally just ended a few minutes ago. this is happening not far from the arch. it is part of what is billed as movement to stop violence against young black men. people from all over the country are attending with a clear message. >> this is a reality that we live in as young black men. and now is the time that we need to stand up and make sure that it stops. every 28 hours, a black man is shot. by police or vigilante. >> let's bring in tree main lee. tree main, what is the atmosphere like there? >> the atmosphere here for the better part of the last few hours has been a mix of jubilation, folks are emboldened by much broader than mike brown. disparities when it comes to the interaction with police. >> what are you hearing from people on the ground as they participate today? what is their main goal in th demonstration? >> folks have driven in from all over the country. i talked to folks from florida, from georgia, from morning cine city. but the list of speaker, the reverend arrested within days of the protest, he said when all is said and done, this will be a generation remembered for not bowing town. a member of the dream defenders said the movement is the heartbeat of resistance all around the country. and the family of mike brown said it best, for a number will of people, this they want an arrest of darren wilson for the killing of michael brown and that says it all. it's about the arrest of tear r darren wilson and the broader issues black men face when dealing with law enforcement. >> so do you see this moving from a row test to a movement, a broader message on many different levels? >> most certainly. in the first days after michael brown was killed, it was org beganic. people in the community who were enraged. but in the days and weeks that followed, as protesters grew, they got angrier. and now it's organized. there are clear political goals and ideals and demands. it's a far cry in what we saw in the initial early days. >> are you still seeing some of that rage, some of that anger and is there any concern that this movement could turn violent? >> certainly there is an undercurrent of outrage because many people are still wondering with all the evidence and witnesses that seem to point to something fishy in the case, why there has not been an arrest. but a lot of the early violence was sparked by a few bad apples and police who seemed to be overzealous. so there is still anger, still outrage that there is no arrest. but as of right now, things have been peaceful, calm and organized. >> have you seen the family members of, say, michael brown or the other guy this week von dare rit myers, have you seen them participate in this today? >> michael brown's family from a spokesman was unable to make it. vonderitt myers' family was here with a pastor and again they said they believe as many other people believe that the police of st. louis aren't telling the whole truth. they maintain he was unarmed. and they counter the story from the police that there was a shoot-out. they say that there was a shoot-out involved, but it was one-sided from the police to vonderitt myers. >> thank you so much for joining us today and keeping tabs on what is happening there. meanwhile, those provide tests have continued in ferguson over the last two months since the shooting death of michael brown. no protesters were arrested last night, but new reporting by the "washington post" is shedding light on the practices of the ferguson police department writing hundreds have been arrested since august for violating unwritten rules and committing minor offenses such as failure to disperse and for violating a noise ordinance. joining me now wesley lowry, the writer of that piece. he was actually arrested himself. tell us what you found in your investigation. >> of course. so myself and my colleague did a deep dive into the arrest policies and how arrests were being made during the weeks ferguson police department were in charge of policing the protests. and we found police were using arbitrary methods. they were arresting people who had not necessarily violated any law, maybe violated a noise ordinance, arresting without telling them what they were being charged with, holding them for arbitrary amounts of time and releasing them without giving them any paperwork. these are things that police departments have been told about by the department of justice and state officials. they have been warned that they shouldn't behave in some of these ways and yet these things continue. on one night police officers brokered with the protests. they arrested some people and they would them in jail and told protesters if you go away, we'll let those people out. and that was something i think led the county police to come in and take control of how this is being policed. >> and as we listen to this laundry list as you define it as it's happened, how is this owe did youring when the department is actually being investigated by the justice department to civil rights violations? >> of course. well, the department is being investigated, but no one really has the authority to come in and tell the ferguson police department what to do or how to police. department of justice is still probing the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case and that was years ago. so while the department of justice can give recommendations, it can monitor, it can write stern letters, it doesn't necessarily have the authority unless the state of emergency is issued to come in and actually change much of anything. so what we saw here in this case was the county police stepped in and said, okay, we'll take this over, we have more manpower and we can help solve some of these problems. >> speaking of change, last month the st. louis post dispatch reported that 50 cameras were donated to the ferguson police department by two plirivate companies. is the police department using those cameras? that could possibly answer some questions. >> they're using them sometimes. not always. but again, there has been real inconsistency in terms of the policing of the protests. my understanding is they have been using them in normal traffic stops and routines, house calls. but they have not necessarily been using the cameras during some of the protests policing. and again, i think the "l.a. times" had a great piece discussing how police cameras aren't necessarily the catch-all that solves all the problems because many police stations have inconsistent policies about how exactly you use the cameras. when do you turn them on, when do you not. so just because ferguson pd has been given the cameras, it doesn't necessarily solve all the problems. >> wesley, thanks for joining us you. the ebola virus is testing the u.s. go. in a way like never before. and a key figure the u.s. surgeon general, is missing from our efforts. we'll show you how this is impacting the response. and new fears as isis looks to seize a key city along the syria/turkey border. the latest from richard engel. blend for each of us covergirl p!nk blend of rockstar and mama bear her trublend... light 4 janelle blend of punk and funk deep 6 sofia comedienne and colombiana medium 6 there's a trublend to match 99% of all women. find yours it blends in doesn't build up for a flawless nude look so easy breezy beautiful covergirl find your trublend at covergirl.com ring ring!... progresso! it's ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. it's our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. apology accepted. i'm watching you soup people. make it progresso or make it yourself ♪ there's confidence... then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. it's no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. and during the big tire event, get up to $140 in mail-in rebates on four select tires. ♪ your customers, our financing. your aspirations, our analytics. your goals, our technology. introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. banking. loyalty. analytics. synchrony financial. enagage with us. in life there are things you want to touch and some you just don't. introducing the kohler touchless toilet. ♪ [light instrumental music] ♪ female announcer: recycle your old fridge and get $50. schedule your free pickup at: as the u.s. steps up its stefr effort, there has been one notable figure absent, the surgeon jur surgeon general. it's been nearly a year since being nominated, but he's under view the any for backing an assault weapons ban. a vote is it not expected any i'm soon.the any for backing an assault weapons ban. a vote is it not expected any i'm soon. so with knee is the surgeon general from 2002 to 2006. dr. coarh ochlcarmoma is joinin. how big of is problem is that there is no surgeon general in place? >> i think it's a tremendous problem. the country relies on a well-known authority, someone who has earned the right to deliver those messages to them, to calm them, to educate them so they ccan take the right action. and there are lots of people speaking, but the public doesn't know any of these people. >> let's talk about the surgeon general nominee. compare your confirmation process and give us a sense of why a vote is taking so long here. >> well, it's all politics. my confirmation took a couple of months. and i was confirmed unanimously, the first time in history to my understanding. i searched the term for four years. >> but this is a much longer time than a couple months. >> that's true. but i think it raised a lot of questions. i know the nra has been brought up, but the fact is dr. murthy is early in his career, he has no public health formal education. he's worked a couple of years as a physician and sometimes part-time as a hospitalist. that hardly rises to the level of being considered for surgeon general. and the nomination itself has to be patron imagine. he started a group that supported president obama for his office as president. and wret whyet when you look at resume, he's a gifted young man, i've communicated with him before. but i told him that i have concerns because really he hasn't earned the right to be a surgeon general yet. as you may know, the position is one of the seven uniformed services of the united states. you become apadmiral. it's hard to take a young man off the streets who has never been in uniform and put him in washington with real admirals and generals to make decisions when you haven't had the experience or training. so i think this is moorp the more than the nr ama. many of us are concerned that there are many who would be worthy of the consideration. and because of the politicization, we have continued gaps between surgeon generals. >> let's get to that fwgap. that is a major concern for the american public because we're dealing with boo ebola on a glo scale. trying to contain it in africa. and at the same time a, we have no surgeon general. who is going to fill this voida no surgeon general. who is going to fill this void,o surgeon general. who is going to fill this void 1234 we'? ? we're in a li nchllimbo. >> just like the army, navy and air force suggests names to the president and the president nominates and senate confirms, they have departed from that because of the politicization of the position. and they yuundermine the officen doing so and denigrate the career of those who have worked selflessly to be considered. but because they're not politically aligned, they look to try to align with somebody from outside. and in this case, this young man is a very credible person, but he only has a few years of experience and no public health education. and really hasn't had any significant leadership positions. how could we bring somebody like that to speak for the government and have the authority to speak to the american public on complex issues that he has never dealt with. >> they're still trying to decide that whole issue. in the meantime, we have these new airport screenings that start today. do you think that is too late or can the actuy be a game changer? >> i think this is another layer. my colleagues, dr. tom frieden, dr. fauci, very, very wonderful thought leaders in the field of public health, they have all spoken about this and we're layering on into our existing all hazards preparedness programs to identify as some of your earlier guests have pointed to. and close the gap. so this is good public health, but we also need a very credible surgeon general who speaks with authority and authenticity and years of experience behind them to call the american public, educate the american public and interface with all of the areas of government who are giving information so the public heres a single voice that can calm them and education thhe haeduca. >> thanks to joining us. new reports suggest jameis winston was given preferential treatment in his rain beingpe an case. various stories say win stop's lawyers had access to documents days before the state attorney's office did. that allowed the defense lawyers to get a head's start on the investigation. tallahassee police eventually declined winston with any crime. florida state has not directly responded to the reports on their star quarterback. however, the university now says winston faces a discipline area hearing that could lead to expulsion. go. ♪ fifty omaha set hut ♪ losing feeling in my toes ♪ ♪ nothing beats that new car smell ♪ ♪ chicken parm you taste so good ♪ ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ mmm mmm mmm mm mmm mm mmmmmm new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. ring ring! ...progresso! you soup people have my kids loving vegetables. well vegetables... shh! taste better in our savory broth. vegetables!? 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>> reporter: there is still a group of fighters in the city of company ban kobani it that are holding out. fighting for about a month. but up offici.n. firofficials a there could be a massacre. could be on the scale of the worst since world war ii. there are believed to be about 700 civilians in company ban any oirk many he wi oig, many who felt they couldn't escape the city. there are probably simple thousand fighters themselves. and a few thousand civilians, perhaps even 12,000 civilians who are in another part of kobani right close to the turkish border. they're all under attack. isis has surrounded company ban any oig on three sides. it's trying to completely encircle the city. it is facing street to treat in kobani itself and the militants have already begun posting pictures on social media. they do seem like pictures taken from inside kobani and they show militants carrying out beheadings, posing by piles of bodies, dumping them in the back of pickup trucks. kobani hasn't even fallen yet. and this is all on the turkish border. turkey has yet to respond. it says it won't respond. turkish president saying what happens in kobani is ultimately syria's problem, not turkey's. >> richard engel on the turkey/syria border. and would he have also watching president obama on the move this afternoon heading back to d.c. from california. this is new video that came in just moments ago of the president leaving california heading back to washington. while in calle came, he spoke to tech entrepreneurs on the important of the startup culture to the economy. mr. obama on friday testifyides part of the is an gais an gib rl mountains of a national monument. not only we see democrats in congress agree on something, but they are coming together in the fight against bol. ebola. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? 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>> may i first say i think what was important is that the very beginning, everalmost everyone offered their condolences to mr. do duncan's family. he is a tragic example of the devastation in sierra leone or beg guinea. so people are dying in the streets. and that was made clear. so we know we're very torn n fortunate to have a health care infrastructure. i think one of the bipartisan consensus was, first of all, debunk myths and of course one of those is that ebola is not airborne. and i personally on the record thanked president obama for the enormous capacity of the centers for disease control, resources going into the country and how we can do things better. i believe we should have a surgeon general because the surgeon general is an important mouth fepiece for health crises. but we have an extensive health care intra structure. no doubt. hospitals and clinics and doctors and nurses and practitioners and techs. we have all of that. but we found out that information is not being translated to places around the thag nation. and we should be none to easy on thinking that dallas is the only place that there may be a potential outbreak. in fact one of my held professionals said let's wait until the end of the month in that region until we sign. but i've found out a lot of hospital personnel don't know the procedures. >> we now know through an investigation that the associated press did that thomas duncan was sent home from the hospital in dallas despite a 103 degree fever. how confident are you that the mistakes in that case will not be repeated? >> the good news is that we have the capacity not to repeat those mistakes. that was an egregious mistake. we don't know whether or not the delay in treatment, the amount of fluids that he could have had over that period of time might have helped to, if you will, prevent or give a greater opportunity for other medicines to be utilized. we don't know that. and it's a thiragic incident th occur. but there are medical professionals who don't have the ro protocol s of how you admit someone with ebola, whether or not the procedures in admitting and also having the necessary tools and equipment. every hospital cannot have boxes and boxes of the trivec suits. so we need to be on alert. and i want to make sure and the center for disease control committed to me that he would have outreach to hospitals in america to know that they have the protocols for admission, to know the instructions on what to do with an ebola patient and make sure they have the bare necessities to keep it from spreading. >> communication and education is definitely key. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. and i hope the airport program is moved to more airports than just the ones that have been named. i think it will, very, very important. >> very good. thank you. the midterm elections will just a few weeks away and the picture is still pretty hazy as to which party will hold the majority in the next senate. you'll be surprised to hear what race could make or break the balance of power. a can of del monte green beans? 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>> we've seen orman up by ten, roberts up by six in the last week. i think it's probably a lot closer to a two or three point margin. but the sense seems to be pete know who pat roberts is. they're not undecided on pat roberts, but folks are still undecided about what any think about greg orman. so this could go depending on whether people decide whether orman is worth trusting or whether they decide they have had enough of pat roberts. >> you also spoke with reince priebus. what did he tell you? >> well, reince priebus tried to close the door on one of greg orman's biggest selling points. orman has been saying he'd be willing to caucus with either party to work with both sides to come up with solutions. and he said there is no way that will happen. there is just not a chance on this planet that greg orman would ever caucus with the republican party. i asked him twice and he really circled back on that. if the republicans can force greg or man to look like a democrat, to look like a liberal and say he's not one of us, they can paint him that way. this is a state mitt romney won with 60% of the vote. so getting a republican into office shouldn't be that complicated. they just have to convince folks greg orman would not be on their side. >> and john, orman is relatively new to politics. how do you see the race playing out even over the next week? >> the fact of the matter is that six months ago, three months ago, that race wasn't even on the radar screen. and so that's a good thing for the democrats. same holds true for south dakota. never even on the radar screen. and suddenly both of the senatorial committees are pouring a million dollars into south dakota where there a four way race. the real problem, though, for the democrats is the race that you alluded to and mitch m mcconnell. when she won't answer if she voted for obama, that shows the problem. but suddenly coming on the radar screen, i think most people still think the republicans have a slight edge to take the senate. >> i want to talk about what you just mentioned. our political director and moderator chuck todd said allis allison lundergan grimes' answer was a rookie mistake. take a listen. >> this election isn't about the presidency. it's about making sure we put kentuckians back to work. >> did you vote for him? >> i was a delegate for clinton and kentuckyians know i'm a clinton democrat. i know the members of this board respect the sanctity of the ballot box. >> lot tnot a straight answer. does that disqualify her? >> i understand where which you can chuck is coming you you from. this is a high profile is that the rasenate race, how do you n and it anticipate the question. his numbers are so bad in so many states that whether she want it s it or not, he will dr down some democrats. so the answer was pretty pathet pathetic. >> what is mitt romney bringing to the stump? >> he's really the closest thing to a unifying figure the republican party has. there is no one else that can bring the entire sort of big ten republican party in one place aunt not th and not that he was especially great during the primaries, but he is the closest thing. mitt romney has not been to kansas to campaign for pat roberts, but still the name has some cache. i think he tapped into a sense of buyer's remorse. reminds them of a time when they thought they could take out the sitting president. >> john, you're out in nevada. i want to get your input on harry reid. will he still be majority leader come january? >> well, he sure hopes he will be and he'll never show a sign of weakness. not on the ballot up it i winti but candidates love to talk about harry reid. on the democratic side, they're saying harry who? no, we won't vote for him. harry reid has been declared dead so many times. i've covered him for 30 years. i would not count him out. he has very good people on the ground. but he's the underdog to become majority leader again. but one thing people forget, this may not even be decided on election day when you have potential runoffs in louisiana and georgia. so harry reid will do everything he possibly can to be majority leader. i don't think even the republicans feel confident betting against harry reid. >> what does he have on his side? >> well, what he has on his side is the ground game of the democrats, which he has honed throughout america especially in nevada. some of the people who helped save him here in nevada in 2010 because of the turnout machine. that's really all they have. you have essentially the democrats turnout machine in many states versus the president's numbers and the advantages of midterm election that go to the republicans. that is what the battle is right now. i think it's slightly tilted toward the republicans. but harry reid has been counted out more are times than i remember. >> we'll see how it plays out. thank you both for joining us. some call it a story too true to tell. an alleged conspiracy involving the cia, contra rebels and crack cocaine. it is playing out on the big screen and i'm going to talk to the man behind that story next. keeping a billion customers a year flying, means keeping seven billion transactions flowing. and when weather hits, it's data mayhem. but airlines running hp end-to-end solutions are always calm during a storm. so if your business deals with the unexpected, hp big data and cloud solutions make sure you always know what's coming - and are ready for it. make it matter. i make a lot of purchases and i get aness. lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 70,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire. so you can make owning a business even more rewarding. ink from chase. so you can. you get used to food odors you think it smells fine, but your guests think it smells like this... 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>> no, i don't think conspiracy's the way i would describe it. i think the story gary webb wrote was very complicated. there are a lot of loose ends and i think he quickly became the story rather than what he originally wrote. >> well, the events gary wrote about took place in the 1980s. he published his work in 1996. what's compelling about this topic today? >> well, this is a story that i think and the film sort of capture ths that sort of came at the tail end of the sort of glory days of american print reporting. what happened to gary was really unique in that you'd never had three major newspapers as powerful as "new york times," "the washington post" and "los angeles times" essentially gang up on one particular report ir. not just one story but his entire career seeking to discredit him. and nothing like that has ever happened since. it's a sad story, but i think a compelling one today because even the editor of the "los angeles times" which attacked gary's reporting called gary a great investigative reporter. and he's exactly the type of fearless journalist i think we need more of today. >> for those who aren't familiar with the story, did all that lead up to his suicide? >> well, gary was forced essentially to resign from his own newspaper after the paper backed away from significant portions of his reporting. and when that happened he was never able to get a job in daily newspaper reporting again. and once you take someone's credibility away in journalism, that's basically all they have. >> that's very true. >> contra was -- that's known by u.s. officials. that's mostly undisputed. what went wrong? >> what he brought to the story that no one had known about was the fact these same traffickers that had been exposed in the 1980s had hooked up with freeway ricky ross which "los angeles times" has described as the kingpin, the mastermind if you will of crack cocaine in south central los angeles. where i think the story got wrong was in the first few paragraphs of the story and the packaging which showed a crack addict superimposed on the seal of the cia. it sbepded to imply but did not state that the cia somehow introduced crack cocaine into the inner cities but essentially arguing that by allowing these traffickers to access to people like freeway rick, they played a blind eye type role. >> was that that took him down? >> i think what took him down was there were loose ends to the story. as a reporter at the time myself i investigated this. and i always try to get at the answers. i don't know if we'll ever get to the entire truth of the matter. but it certainly is and what the big powerful newspapers that were in a position to continue to investigate and get answers did. they basically buried the story. then the cia came along in the height of the monica lewinsky scandal and reported that they had allowed their assets to deal drugs and did not report it to the justice department, which was a much wider i think scandal than even dark alliance had insinuated. >> your book is now a movie. it's out this weekend. what do you think gary would think of this? >> i don't know. gary had tried to -- you know, he wrote a book about this and gotten a lot of big offers with a lot of money when he was still at the newspaper. but when his book came out, the media largely ignored it. he had tried to get this film made about his book. and i think it's very bittersweet situation for me to be involved although it's exciting, obviously, to have this book be turned into a movie. but i think that gary would be happy, i think, to see his side of the story's getting another chance to see the front page. >> all right. nicholas scowl, author of the book "kill the messenger." thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we want to thank you for watching. we will be back tomorrow starting at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. have a terrific saturday afternoon. ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪ ♪ ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. 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