Requesting. Occasionally as well, yes. Now, before you is who . Amanda berry, gina dejesus and Michele Knight. And this is the now wellknown commercial production of their thank you statement that was shot from that video. Yes. Is that how they appeared to you on that day or the initial days . No. What was different . As i mentioned, the women had made dramatic recoveries, i believe, physically and psychologically. So their initial appearance to be was considerably more dire. The photo of Michele Knight thats on the screen before you now, do you recognize the place and location of that photo its photograph taken at metro hospital. So thats how she appeared the night of may 6th . Correct. Thank you. And this photo would be from what point in time . This would be the day or day after that point, may 7th or possibly may 8th. Now, this progression of amanda berry, do you recognize these tos . Yes. Do you recognize the place of that photo metro hospital. And this photo . Thats the fbi office. Thats may 7th. Now this triplicate progression of gina dejesus. Do you recognize the date and place of this photo. May 6th, metro hospital. This photo. May 7th, Cleveland Police office. Thank you be special agent. Judge, may i ask real quickly. Certainly. Do you mind . Yes. You have until 11 30. Thank you. Agent burke, you were directed by mr. Thomas through a letter that was found which was allegedly written by mr. Castro on april 4th of 2004. Do you recall that . I do. Youre familiar with that document. Youve read it, im sure several times, is that correct . I have read it several times, yes. And you would agree with me then based on your familiarity with the document that despite the circumstances, he did explain in that letter to whoever was eventually going to read it as to how these abductions occurred and he expressed remorse for his conduct, is that correct . I believe in the letter wrote something to the effect that he was sorry for his conduct. And i think that part of this too was he was unsure but certainly believed that he expressed in this letter he was sick and mentally ill and other than that he had no explanation for why he could possibly do Something Like this. Would you agree he wrote that . Yes. In essence you know that it does seem to imply if you would agree with me that this may have been a message, i guess for lack of a better word, a suicide letter, there was that sort of impression, we know that ultimately he didnt kill himself, but he did give that impression that it was a suicide type note. Would you agree with that . I dont know that i would concur that it was written as a suicide note. It did not give me that immediate impression. Thank you. I dont have anything further. Thanks. State will next call deputy david jacobs. Good morning, everybody im Thomas Roberts here at msnbc headquarters in new york. Were listening to the sentencing hearing, the testimony thats taking place there for ariel castro who has pleaded guilty to 937 charges. You were just listening to andrew burke of the fbi and his testimony showing graphic pictures of the home the women were treated in and kept in. Now well listen to a local deputy who investigated from the sheriffs department. Im assigned to the Violent Crimes force. Were you deputized . I have a special deputy u. S. Marshall commission and im also commissioned by the special agent in charge of the Cleveland Division by the fbi. In the interest of time were you involved or assigned to the investigation of ariel castro on may 7th, 2013 . Yes. Did you develop a strategy for that interrogation taos how you intended to proceed . I did. What was it . My strategy for the interrogation was to be nonconfrontational, to obtain information from mr. Castro that would meet the elements of the crimes that we thought that he may be charged with in the near future. Were you going into it in an attempt to brow beat him or be confrontational with him . Not at all. Did you administer miranda rights to him . Yes, i did. Did he read and sign a written form of miranda rights . Yes. At the conclusion of that process did he execute a three page summary statement of the course of that interrogation as to his core admissions of conduct yes, he did. There were two interviews i conducted. One was may 7th, second was may 8th. Second day we took a written statement from mr. Castro. Briefly i just want to approach, your honor, and show him states 11. Do you recognize this document, three pages . Yes, do i. Thats the written statement we took from ariel castro on may 8th, 2013. Now, can you describe how mr. Castro interacted with you in terms of if you pose ad question or a statement to him, was he in engagement with you during this interrogation. Was he responsive to your question yes. Surprisingly he was very his answers were very stuuccinct. When i asked him a question he answered the question. Typically when you ask an incriminating question you may not get the answer. I felt that ariel castro, when the question was posed to him ncry m incriminating questions, he answered those questions. Was he beating around the bush . No. Have you prepared some notes that are a condensation of the high points of the course of this interrogation. I have. Would you take us through in a narrative fashion, please. Okay. There were certain things that stood out throughout the interviews both days may 7th and may 8th that ariel castro had talked about. The way the interview was formatted was i thought that we should start with Michele Knight, she was the first person that was abducted in this case. We then went to amanda berry and then we went to gina dejesus. As it was formatted, we felt that it would be a lot easier to control the interview and gain the facts if we specifically talked about the incidents surrounding michele, amanda and gina separately. Ultimately we did that. Mr. Castro admitted throughout the interview to us on each occasion how he took the girls. He indicated that he had extensive conversations with the girls surrounding the time that he did abduct them. In his own words he used the word abduct. He referenced himself in the interview as a sexual predator. I asked him at that point, what do you consider, what a sexual predator is. He said somebody that continually repeats offenses. I asked him if it was a one time incident, how would he reference himself, he rear fed to that as a sexual offender. Did he use the phrase im a criminal. Yes, de. To put that in context, i also conducted interviews with his mother and his brother oneal. To put that statement in context, it was in reference to his brothers lack of involvement in this entire situation. Okay. From the totality of the investigation is there any reason to believe his brothers had any knowledge of what he was up to . In my opinion, no. And that is support by the descriptions of the victims that it was mr. Ariel castro and mr. Ariel castro alone that conducted this scheme against them . Yes. Now, why would he do what de . Did he tell you why he was abducting young women off the streets of cleveland de. We initially talked about how he did it which i explained a little bit earlier. Then we got into why he did it and his response was to purely satisfy his sexual needs. The circumstances surrounding him taking the girls was explicit to us it was to satisfy his sexual needs. Did he tell you whether or not he knew what he was doing and these acts were wrong . Absolutely. During the interview he said, you know, other than the fact that im the criminal. I knew what i did was wrong. He said that more than once. Did he explain why he had an obsession . He did. We talked about the gun for a short period of time. If my recollection is correct he got the gun from his father who had passed away and it was part of his collection or in his possession. He actually in his own words he said i used i showed the gun to the girls as a form of control. And are you aware he used the gun as a form of control to play russian roulette with his victim . I did learn that and that came through the victim statements, the second day that i interviewed him i asked him if this incident actually took place. His response was that he didnt recall, but if the girls said it then it probably happened. All right. And he played a trust game, he handed an empty revolver to a young woman, put to it my head, pull trigger, if its gods will i die ill die. Did he play that game yes he did. What was the purpose of that game . Im not completely familiar on the context of that interview. Was it part of his gamesmanship of seeing who he could trust and how far . I believe so, yes. Now did you reach a compelling point in this interview where he said something that he admitted he did, in essence, in cold blood. In his own words the first day i interviewed him which was may 7th we were talking about ginas abduction and that day his story was that he had gone to Wilbur Wright to see his daughter arlene also known as rosy. A short time later he observed rosy walking with gina. They were together. By the time he turned around on lorain road they were separate. His daughter was walking on the south side of lorain, westbound and gina was continuing to walk eastbound on the south side of lorain. He said i did a coldblooded thing on my daughter that day. He said that i drove past my daughter to get to gina. Did he ever offer any remorse about his conduct . He did not. He was given the opportunity the second day we interviewed him prior to me taking the written statement. I had explained to him that i wanted the statement to be in his words and if there was something that he wanted put in the statement to include an apology i would accommodate that. He did not take that opportunity and one of the last things i did say to him on may 8th after staking the statement is there anything you can say or do to the family that would make things better, there was no response. Have you seen mr. Castro in court here today . Yes. Would you point to him and describe what hes wearing. Hes sitting at the table wearing an orange jump suit. Would the record reflect the identification of ariel castro. It will, but it seems unnecessary that point. Showing you state exhibit 17 do you recognize what this cdr represents as a copy of the interrogation . It represents there was a video and audio taken of both times that mr. Castro was interrogated. Thank you. No further questions. Just one question. These interviews, sir, they were taken by you through the advice of counsel, lawyers . Yes. You went to see him and he completely cooperated with you, didnt he . To use the word completely i dont think thats accurate. I believe that, if i can describe it, he did cooperate. I felt that some of the elements of the crime were minimized, but he was very cooperative throughout the interview. Talked himself into convictions. Yes. He wasnt hesitant, he told you what happened from his perspective no he wasnt. Thank you. Your honor the state would next present dr. Gregory were listening to dave jacobs deputy they are affirmative the fbi and Cleveland Bureau right there talking about the interviews he conducted with ariel castro, referring to him as cooperative, not beating around the bush and referring to himself as a sexual predator and admitted to abducting these women, even gina dejesus who was friends with his daughter said he did a coldblooded thing to his daughter when he abducted gina after being with his daughter. You practice forensic psychiatry . Correct. For whom . University of virginia. So gross. Well you didnt use pam, so it looks like youre stuck with me. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray leaves annoying residue. Thats why theres pam. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray leaves annoying residue. Hereto a dinner from walmart fastfood can save you over 760 a year. The average fastfood dinner costs over 6. 50 per meal. A meal made with kraft recipe makers costs less than 3. 10 a serving. 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Is there anybody else in the fbi or your personal professional experience that matches the course of conduct displayed by mr. Castro in these sets of defenses . No. Hes in a class one by himself . Certainly there are cases where there have been longer term abductions and the like but the specific nature of this, to abduct and to keep unrelated, this number of unrelated victims for this lean of time in a, within a neighborhood setting is completely unprecedented. Turning to the next topic within your report, castro functions as selection of victims and methodical use of torture, psychological and environmental manipulation represented a calculated captivity. Would you explain that statement. Yes. Mr. Castro used or he stated in his fbi interview that his selection of victims was impulsive in nature. In fact, there was a pattern of behavior, always on the same street. These victims were similar in terms of their stature. Their age. They were female. And they also were very trusting. His use of ruses to get them in his vehicle and his house. Once there, over the years, he exposed them to significant degradation and violence which has already been described. He forced control in the most intimate and private functions of their lives which include food, bathing and toileting. Very a complete and comprehensive captivity. Now you next topic throughout the period of captivity ariel castro engaged in constant duplicity of family and neighbors in order to maintain control. Why was that significant to you . This is the most significant part of the case, i think that someone would be able to go on year after year be able to devise ways to conceal the situation from family, friends, neighbors for a time. He maintained a relationship with a girlfriend who was completely unaware he had these women in the house. His use of wigs which has already been described as playing music loud in the house. And he was musician but playing music sometimes to mask any potential for the women to be heard over the music were examples. The use of alias, making sure the daughter learned the names, all contrived to conceal this protracted captivity. Now, did he, in your view of materials, make any claim to anyone professionally that he needed medical help or treatment, Mental Health treatment . No. In fact, hes not diagnosed by the court clinic with having any Mental Health condition, correct . His competency assessment was done by one of the most respected psychiatrists in the country and he found no psychiatric illness whatsoever. Now, in this point number three you make mention of a quote by mr. Castro that he found significant. Yes. What was it . Its actually in that sections one was a statement in this document of 4 april 2004 in which he stated i live a private life, i function around others like a normal person. In fact, he appeared to have done that and was able to live this life around family and friends without them suspecting. Theres a with regard to the duplicity in the document in my discussion with colleagues they were struck with the fact that in the document he made a statement i had no idea gina was so young, she looks a lot older. We certainly know he was aware gina was a classmate of his daughter, he knew his daughters age and, therefore, to make that statement i had to idea gina was so young she looks a lot older caused some skepticism i think in the minds of those who were reviewing the document as to whether or not he was being truthful in writing the document and making the statements that he made. Based on the entire totality of the information that hes been provide do you have any professional reason to believe that if ever given his freedom again mr. Castro would not go back to his old way . No. Why do you say that . Well, the duplicity was so complete in terp of his ability to fool his family, friends and girlfriend who he maintained a relationship with over time. The fact that he was able to construct this kind of situation day in and day out as he said in his statement living a normal life i think is quite significant. He appeared to certainly have a lot of emotion and attachment to his home but whether or not theres true remorse with regard to the victims, thats a great question. Thank you. We would next call dr. Frank have a few questions. I know theres a time confrant but its kind of important. Doctor, you understand that mr. Castro was tested for competency only, wasnt the evidenced for psychiatry disorder, dont you yes. Okay. Thats what the doctor who gave such respect, to dr. Resknick, he examined him for one purpose, and one purpose only it was for competency . Correct. Competency is different than sanity at the time of the act . Correct. And you reported in your report based upon materials in review, what materials did you actually review . I reviewed, as i mentioned at the beginning of my testimony, the transcripts of the recordings. I reviewed the competency document. I reviewed Court Documents related to the apprehension charge documents. I was asked to i wrote this letter yesterday. This was not a formal exam, obviously and i didnt have the opportunity to examine mr. Castro. You never spoke mr. Castro or the ladies, the girls . Correct. Did you review t