Dr. Anthony fauci and other Health Experts appeared before lawmakers yesterday to address the surging number of coronavirus cases in the United States. Well also break down results from some of yesterdays notable primary races, including one in North Carolina, where a 24yearold defeated the republican candidate endorsed by President Trump. Boy, and it wasnt even close. Hello and a fight over Police Reform. Senate democrats will oppose the republican bill to reform policing guidelines, setting up stalemate in congress. Well talk about that. Good morning and welcome to morning joe it is wednesday, june 24th. Along with joe, willie, and me, we have White House Reporter for the associated press, Jonathan Lamire, nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kasie dc on msnbc on sunday nights, kasie hunt, the host of Msnbcs Politicsnation and president of the National Action network, reverend al sharpton, and cofounder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei joins us. We have a lot of news to get to. And you know, willie, you and i, were always going back and forth oh, boy. About what our favorite bible verse is. I know a couple days ago, you talked about how the lord loves a joyful giver. And i agree with you there. But you know what, well take baseball any way we can get it, and we dont care whether they like it or not. Were at least going to get 60 games, whether theyre joyful givers or not. Theres so much news. Absolutely. The 10yearold poll in my house was ecstatic yesterday, so thats what im going on. Weve got 60 games. Its not 162, but i yelled upstairs at bedtime when the news crossed, george, the yankees are playing in a month and he was thrilled. So, i hope the rest of the country feels that way. The truth is, weve been waiting a long time for sports, for any sports, really, and to be able to sit there with your son or daughter and turn on a baseball game at night, well take 60 games. I know it wasnt pretty, but well take it. Exactly. Okay, a lot to get to. Look at this. Joe biden is leading President Trump by 14 points nationally in the latest the New York TimesSienna College poll. Biden now sits at 50 to trumps 36 of support. The former Vice President also has a twopoint advantage over trump among voters 65 and older, a group the president carried by nine points in 2016. It seems things are changing. Biden also has an 18point advantage among independents and is up 28 points among collegeeducated whites and 39 points among collegeeducated white women. While trump is up 19 points among whites without a degree, a group he won by 36 points in 2016. What does this tell us, joe . Yeah, well, it tells us you know, willie, National Polls this early dont matter, and we have to keep saying that. Okay. At the same time, a 14point loss by the sitting incumbent, down among seniors, a group he won handily, down 18 Percentage Points by independents, and down by massive figures in other areas that he needs to do much better on. You know what, maybe it doesnt matter a whole lot, but you look at history, and there is just theres no evidence anybody this far down will be able to catch up. But long way to go still. Yeah, youre right to add all the caveats, but at some point, when you have a series of polls showing the same thing, theres something going on here. I think people were so, you know, gun shy because of what happened in 2016 that they hesitate to make any judgments based on these National Polls. And of course, its not a national referendum. But the fox poll had the spread at 12 last week. This week, the New York Times, just this morning, at 14. And as you say, whats really most interesting as you go through these numbers and you can hardly find in this the New York Times siena poll, a place where trump is winning. Hes winning with white voters with no College Degree by 19 points. But other than that, jim vandehei, when you go down the list and look, among women hes down 22, men, losing by 3 points, older voters, in a statistical tie, Younger Voters hes losing, africanamerican, latino. You go down the list, and the independent spread of 21 is significant for all the obvious reasons. When you look at this poll, as someone who usually gives us the grain of salt that we need on a National Poll, what do you see . Im with you guys. You can ignore a poll here, a poll there. The trend is devastating for donald trump, and he knows it. Listen, 14 points. When you talk about, hey, there might be a hidden vote, theres not a 15point hidden vote out there. And theres a lot of indicators. Its not just the National Poll. Another poll yesterday in texas basically tied. The wisconsin polls, the minnesota polls, pennsylvania polls, michigan polls, arizona polls, states that matter polls, all bad for him. And look at that event, which did not get a lot of coverage, which i think people covered it a lot. In tulsa, he was talking about a Million People being interested, hundreds of thousands showing up, side venues being put up so they could have the big rock star appearances by him and Vice President pence, and almost nobody showed up. A third of the arena is empty. Hes devastated afterwards. A lot of turmoil inside the campaign. Why . Where does that turmoil come from . Not from one poll by the New York Times, but from all of the polls theyre seeing by fox, by the New York Times, by quinnipiac, by all of the internal polling that shows the exact same thing. So, yes, this can change. Hes freaking out. His new top his first meeting of the day now is at 5 30 a. M. With jason miller, his campaign strategist, so he can get the latest polls and latest gossip about politics. Now theyre all worked up about how do we smoke joe biden out and make it a referendum on joe biden and not just on me . And theres no way its not going to be a referendum on donald trump. Thats what these numbers show. And the idea that biden is going to suddenly start taking big chances and come out and do a lot more why would he . This is working pretty well for him. Make it about donald trump. Play it safe. Youre the same alternative. Seems right now like a smart strategy. But the problem is, mika, that every day and we say this every day, and i actually looked at the news yesterday and just came to the conclusion, this does not look like a man who wants to win, who wants to be reelected. You know, remember when he asked china to help him get elected . Yeah. Yeah. And marco rubio came out and said, oh, hes just joshing. Nope. Here, hes asking the communist chinese, the peoples republic of china, to rig the election for him, to get involved. And marco rubio said, oh, hes just joshing. Isnt that a funny joke . Hes just joking. And then, donald trump came out a couple days later, said, no, im not joking. And he repeats it again. And so, at this event in tulsa, the president said, he told people that he wanted to slow down the testing. And everybody said, oh, hes just joking. President s just joking. Staff members saying, oh, hes just joking. And the president , after they were insisting he was joking, he said at the tulsa rally on the slowdown the testing he said, no, he wasnt joking. And he said, you know, i dont i dont get around. Like, so, again, time and time again, this guy every day acts like he doesnt want to get reelected. He undercuts his aides who are trying to cover up for previous mistakes that hes making, and the situation just keeps getting worse. And you have to ask yourself, why is a guy whos down 10 points, 12 points, 14 points, why doesnt he adjust . Why i mean, obviously, hes incapable of adjusting, but at least he proved in 2016 that he knew when to keep quiet. But no, no and yesterday, while he was speaking to reporters ahead of his arizona trip, donald trump, once again, basically told people, assume the worst of me at all times. I wasnt joking. [ inaudible question ] were you just kidding or do you have a plan to slow down testing . I dont kid. Let me just tell you. Let me make it clear. We have got the greatest Testing Program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world, and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases. Okay, okay, again, first of all, i just you can never let that pass without just saying incredible. The president s lying. The ignorance is incredible. We dont have the best tests in the world. Even yesterday on capitol hill, you had dr. Fauci and the cdc director saying we need to make the tests better yeah. We dont have the best tests in the world. They also said, well, nobody ever told us to slow down the testing. But again, mika, ill just keep going back to what ive been saying all along the president of the United States continues to Say Something, as hes about to leave for yet another superspreader event thats what these should be called because thats what they are. That every american knows is a lie, that somehow, if you stop giving tests, that the infection rate will go down and people will stop dying. Even if we hadnt done any tests, mika, we would still, despite the fact we only have 4. 5 of the worlds population and the best scientists, the best doctors, the best everything, like, we would still, mika, have about one out of three deaths. Yeah. In the world from the coronavirus, from covid19, which, of course, the president said, where do they get the 19 from . Honestly, joe, when you really look at this presidency, hes never joking. And you and i never want to be on fifth avenue with him, because he is never joking. And youre right, these events are superspreaders. They may be rallies. They may be some sort of Campaign Event, but they are, before anything ask any doctor the perfect petri dish to spread a deadly virus. This is crazy that were at this point. He was visiting one of the nations biggest megachurches to talk to Arizona College students yesterday stuffed together. Stuffed together. And listen to this rhetoric. The democrats are also trying to rig the election by sending out tens of millions of mailin ballots, using the china virus as the excuse for allowing people not to go to the polls. Hey, we have a virus coming. We have to send think of it, california. Hes going to be sending out millions and millions of ballots. Well, where are they going . Where are these ballots going . Whos getting them . Who is not getting them . A little section thats republican. This will be, in my opinion, the most corrupt election in the history of our country, and we cannot let this happen. They want it to happen so badly. Theres never been anything where they have so many names. I could give you 19 or 20 names for that, right . Its got all different names. Wuhan. Now, wuhans catching on. Coronavirus, right . Kungflu. Covid. Covid19. Covid. I say, whats the 19 . Covid19. Some people cant explain what the 19. Give me the covid19. I said, thats an odd name. I could give you many, many names. Some people call it the chinese flu, the china flu, right . They call it the china, as opposed the china. Ive never seen anything like it. I really willie, i dont know where to begin. First of all, all the president had to do was ask any staff member in the white house. They would tell him the 19 came from the year of the outbreak. Covid, corona, v, virus, d, disease. Say it with me, covid19. The year of the outbreak. That said, i remember back in december of 2015, after seeing Donald Trumps press conference on the muslim ban, and i think we talked about how it helped him in the polls, in the republican polls. I remember asking, is this what germany looked like in 1933 . Ive got to ask the question, what are people going to be saying about us, willie, 50 years from now, when you have the president of the United States working himself up into a sweat and a lather, talking about naming the virus something that millions of americans find deeply offensive, and the crowd breaking out in wild applause. Im 57 years old. I can safely say that ive just never ive never heard anything like this before, before donald trump, and i pray to god, i pray to jesus that we as a country will never hear anything like this again. The president makes a racist remark. And a crowd of College Students break out in wild applause. And getting back to the earlier theme, that this is a guy that doesnt act like he wants to be reelected. You ask any Republican State Party chairperson that wants their candidate to win what that does to Asian Americans who used to be a reliable republican faction, and theyll say, well, it just, it hurts us, not only with Asian Americans, it hurts us with people of color. It hurts us with a majority of suburban voters. It hurts us with women, whether they have College Degrees or not. Again, this is a guy that is driving this campaign off the cliff every day, and it seems that he is working as hard as he can to boil down his base to 30 . Yeah, and hes enjoying it. And that was a manifestation a literal manifestation of playing to the base. As he went through the names of covid19 and coronavirus, you could hear the crowd waiting for that racist term that he used. It was almost like at the old rallies when they did the lock her up chants. They were waiting to say it. They were there to hear the hit song, one of his lines. And he delivered it. And he delivered it twice. And its ugly and its racist, and imagine being an Asian American in this country and hearing your president say that. We heard that side of it. The ugly racist side. We heard the ignorant side, that he didnt know what the 19 stood for. And then we heard the truly, as jon meacham said on this show yesterday morning, perhaps the most damaging side, which is that hes laying this predicate already that the election is rigged. And why is he doing that . Because we have polls that show him down 14 points, that show him getting crushed among women, suburban women, the people he needs to win over to be reelected. Hes laying the groundwork to look back, Jonathan Lamire, after election day, if he does lose, and say, this election is rigged, we should not go quietly. Jonathan, you were on that trip yesterday, all day. What was it like first to be well talk about the border in a moment, but what was it like to be around him when he was making that speech . Reporter willie, what we saw with the campaign yesterday is they wanted a burst of enthusiasm. What theyre seeing also is the president is increasingly talking to a smaller and smaller portion of the electorate, that base, and even just the diehards, truly hardcore portion of that base. As you said, i was with him yesterday in arizona. That megachurch in phoenix is about 3,000 or 4,000 people there, were the estimates, and it was packed. And on one hand, you could tell the president drew a lot of energy from it. After sort of the debacle in tulsa, where he stared at thousands of empty seats, he was clearly revived to see a large, boisterous, very loud crowd, that indeed, you mentioned lock her up. We heard that yesterday. We heard that yesterday, too. But the president was hitting the notes like he was talking to simply viewers on fox news or, in this case, young republicans. Some of them are College Students. Trying to make the case as to why the last 3 1 2 years, why his grievances are what they are, and laying, as you said, potentially laying the groundwork for the ultimate sort of the ultimate play of unfair sports play this fall with the election. So, theres a few things. You heard it. The crowd was goading him on when he was going through the names of the coronavirus. They were anticipating. Even shouted that racist term before the president said it back and then reveled in it. We heard him talk about the election being unfair. We heard him talk about joe biden not being able to get out of the basement and so on. In there was somewhat of a coherent argument. We heard it a little bit in tulsa, too, here as well, trying to paint democrats as the radical left, trying to suggest that biden cant control them. Theyre going to control him. Were going to see a lot of that. His advisers have told us thats an argument theyre trying to make, make that case in the months ahead. But its drowned out by the other noise and its drowned out by today headlines, once again, of him using a racist term that even some in his own staff have urged him just in the last few days, urged him not to repeat. By the way, Jonathan Lamire looking pretty good this morning after being in 108degree heat yesterday. But jonathan will tell you, its a dry heat. Reverend al great. Lets talk about, again, the president continuing to use his racist term, a term thats deeply offensive to a lot of Asian Americans and a lot of other americans. And you do sit back and wonder Mitch Mcconnell was asked what he thought about it, and he wouldnt respond. He said geez. Ask my wife. You wonder what elaine chao is thinking about it. Thanks, mitch. How long can she stay silent . She stood by him after charlottesville. He had her stand behind in a press conference as he defended himself in charlottesville. She said nothing. Shes saying nothing now. But, well see if she decides to ever say anything, because we really dont want to read about it in her book after the administration. She needs to say it now. For millions of Asian Americans<