announced that 33 people tested positive for the virus and 8,400 californians are now being monitored. so far there have been 59 confirmed cases in the u.s., according to the world health organization. worldwide over 83,000 cases and over 2,800 deaths of the coronavirus have been confirmed. the impact on wall street continues as the dow and s&p are on pace for their worst weekly performance since 2008. down more than 10.5% on the week. yesterday the dow experienced its single worst day point drop in history plunging nearly 1,200 points while both the zps&p 500 closed. and in strong contrast to success earlier this month. the dow closed on a record high february 12th and it only took the s&p 500 six days to fall from an all-time high to correction levels marking the fastest drop of that magnitude. this morning the dow futures eae pointing to an opening loss of more than 600 points while the s&p and nasdaq also point to lower openings. the effects of coronavirus is already wide-ranging as major business events take significant precautionary measures. so far the walt disney company closed tokyo disneyland until mid-march. the k-pop boy band bts canceled several concerts and the band green day canceled tours in asia, tech giants, facebook and microsoft along with epic games pulled out of a game developers conference in california next month and korean air says is it will not allow passengers with a fever to fly in the u.s. >> so, willie, a couple things here that -- a lot to talk about today. we're not just going to key in on a few small things and nitpick. it doesn't seem, though, so concerning how ill-prepared we are for this. in the early stages especially. you look at the patients, the infected patients that were allowed to fly back to the united states, despite the fact health officials didn't want them to. apparently, and we can ask jonathan about this. apparently the administration, the president overrode that. then infected patients with other passengers who were not infected in the same airplane. put up some plastic, the air circumstance case. >> all over the place. >> and travels fast between people. >> yeah. a patient, and then, of course, this california patient, who was infected, but the cdc did not allow them to take the test? now she's in pretty bad shape, by reports. we heard yesterday 8,400 people in california may be infected, but they only have a handful of kits to test for it. i mean, our government is woefully ill-prepared, it seems. at least at this early stage. >> yeah. you had an hhs whistle-blower file a report. saying exactly what you're saying. this isn't being handled the right way. officials sent to california to meet people, americans coming home from china, weren't properly protected, didn't have the gear they needed. so the president has said, jonathan, that this will disappear, to use his word. this clearly isn't disappearing. this is only getting big ger overseas and we're beginning to see the effects here at home. >> says if will go away when the weather changes. slated april as that date. we see it spreading rapidly. i was with him in a trip to india earlier in the week. something even a month's pageantry and rolled out the red carpet we has obsessed what was going on with this virus. in terms of the public health crisis, yes, also its impact on the economy and the markets. >> appears to be from all indications more obsessed with the stock market and the stock market's impact. >> whatever inspires him to deal with it, is fine with me. >> but there have to be people around. by the way, if you're looking at jonathan and willie with that background and wondering what set we're on, it's a different set. it's the "match game 75" set. gene rayburn coming in, in a few minutes in bright red. >> you guys look great. >> is there somebody in there that actually can tell the president or have they told the president when he says it's going to just go away. we understand he's trying to be, you know, do happy talk for wall street, but every time he says something like that, the markets go down even more. they are actually -- the markets are deeply unsettled by him not having a realistic view of just how serious this may be. again, the operative word, how serious this "may be." >> in a crisis, potential crisis, be consistent and disciplined with your megging. consistent and disciplined with your messaging has never applied to donald trump. that is a concern here. you're right. his initial focus looking very much through the economic lens. no president ever tied his fortunes to wall street like he has. taking credit for every possible market increase. yesterday we know he inherited the growing economy from president obama and made that central to his re-election bid and is rattled by the drops of the last few days, no question. people in the white house realized, come to recognize how serious this is. we've seen them form a task force, the vice president is in charge, although one can question his ability to handle this considering how he handled medical issues including hiv in indiana while governor there. but this is -- people around the president are mobilizing, recognizing, how important this is. >> and waited too long. >> a sense they may have waited too long and also the president himself wanted to be part of that news conference two days ago and his not only sort of scattershod handling, the presentation, clearly not exactly masterful handling of the facts of the disease has only rattled people further. we saw the impact on the markets and now the administration is trying to course correct and put a more sober face to this. so far it hasn't worked. >> a reason he wants all messages to go through vice president mike pence's office, because he knows he can control that information as opposed to say hhs or cdc. down to wall street and bring in dominic chu. dom, nearly a 1,200 point drop, the worse single day loss in the histories of the dow jones industrial market. what's it looking like this morning? >> to add to jonathan's point here, the reason we don't want to be alarmists about either the medical impact for the coronavirus or the market impact, but there's no doubt that the issues around the coronavirus are having a significant impact. you mentioned that 1,200 nearly point loss yesterday in the dow. the biggest single day point loss in the history of the dow. more important here from a broader perspective, not just the dow. the s&p 500, a broader measure of the u.s. stock market, has now lost in the last six days some $4 trillion worth of market value. $ trilli6 trillion lost in glob value, all of that from dow jones industrial indices and a scenario markets for the s&p have now fallen by 10% or more in the fastest period or span in market history. that is to say we were just about six, seven trading days ago at record highs and took only six days to fall by 10% or more. as the coronavirus fears start to emerge in the economy, a host of analysts on wall street trying to predict or model out what the economic impact will be. a number of big investment banks including those at goldman sachs, jpmorgan and citigroup and others have now economist teams and analysts team who have taken down their forecasts for broe growth in the economy, not just here in the u.s. but around the world. that translates into fewer corporate profits. in fact, folks at goldman sachs citi group predicting no profit growth for s&p 500 companies in the year 2020. now, they are still making money, but it's hard to justify rising stock prices when companies don't make more money, and folks, that's the reason you're seeing markets react the way they are because of an uncertainty about just how much the world economy will slow down based upon the latest results from those tests around the world and coronavirus, guys. >> you know, so much of the markets are going up and down and i know about markets because were y willie and i go to otv. reading the dogs is about the same as reading blue chip stocks. have we not been proven time and again? >> all right. just get serious. >> sorry, dom. you don't have to respond to that. >> i've been to the racetrack. hard to say this, but hard to say anything else with regard we can predict what the market's going to do. right? so many factor in place. >> nonsense. leading to a question, that's this. i was about to suggest that i actually knew what happened with stock markets. so that's why i did the self-deprecating dog track joke, all the kids have done i assure you of that. >> yeah. >> usually when i look at markets i say, this is witch craft. so much goes up and down. we don't really know why evaluation is not tied to the way a particular business is going, but in this case, it's not speculation. the drops are connected to very real events that are happening right now. no guesswork. corporations across america, across the world, are cutting back non-essential travel. severely cutting back non-essential travel. conferences are -- are being canceled. i talked to a diplomat who was going to a very critical international meeting, and said that he was not going to be going. that the country decided they were going to have to sit it out. you're looking at huge events that are being canceled across the globe, and our parent company here is going to have to make a decision on the olympics in japan right now. the japanese are trying to figure out what they're going to do with the olympics, and i'm sure a lot of organizations across the world, the same. this is -- this is the severity of this on business. as you see a lot of tankers just sitting out, you know, in china, in ports, going nowhere. this is -- this is an extreme situation. supply lines have been shattered, and thes going to have -- it's going to have a real extreme impact, and i don't know that we've even seen the beginning of the worst of it, and that's got to just terrify investors. >> uh-huh. >> it does. to all of those points, you speak the truth. i mean, first of all, we saw what happened to the world's biggest wireless technology event. the mobile world congress. biggest event for wireless technology in the world got canceled in barcelona earlier this year. and facebook, a huge conference for all people tied to its application and platforms. they are canceling their developers conference later this year. everybody is now looking at their travel plans saying, yes, this could be an issue. more so perhaps a bit more uncertain about this whole thing is whether or not that becomes a long-term issue. right? because if this is just a situation where it's the next three or six months, even nine months, you can kind of say, hey, things will bounce back in that tile. the real uncertainty right now is about whether or not it lasts for even longer than that. that's the reason why a host of different companies from the likes of microsoft, to other technology companies, to folks out there linked to industrials are saying, hey, if the economy slows down, our business will take a hit. our revenues, our top-line number, bottom-line profits will take a hit and why you're seeing think revaluation. to your point about certain companies impacted by this. it's not all negative. right? i just looked earlier this morning. shares of clorox of all companies. not the sexiest name in the world at record highs now because in part people are looking at bleach and sanitizing products. by the way, for the videoconferencing thing you were talking about. zoom individual jo-- video, the w.h.o. uses up to its record highs. if i can't travel i'm grog to teleconference more. keep an eye on those type of stories that will play out in the next few weeks. >> dom, thank you so much. alex tells us, you keep an eye on santa's little helper in the third race. he's going to win it. >> okay, so -- >> this is serious. this is so -- as far as, again, the supply chain. so often the markets will go in one direction or the other and sometimes it doesn't seem to be connected to something that's real. it's based just -- again, just on animal spirits. this is so connected to a bad situation, to broken supply chains, to things that corporations are doing every day and you're just getting the sense that the snowball is just starting to go down the hill. >> the thing to know is that these companies do not do these things lightly. they don't stop travel. disney does not close disneyland. that he don't cancel events for companies that have been planned now not even coming to california now and these are based on data and being preventative. obviously, the market the oldest saying in investing, uncertainty is bad for the markets. they don't like uncertain and there's nothing more uncertain than a possible global pandemic. >> feels like the white house could take a real hit on that, the united states did not lead on this. this may have began elsewhere. all the signs weren't out there. maybe china wasn't completely honest. we know of that problem, but there was enough information out there and this virus flies between people. it's very hard to contain, and only now, this week, did the white house get itself together and try and put something together to look like they are addressing it. i'm sorry. it seems like the toothpaste is out of the tube. >> can i just say really quickly, though. it is interesting that china, president xi, is facing criticism globally because he wasn't transparent from the very beginning and this is going to impact his legacy. you would think that would be a message to this add min station. >> enough to see. >> and this white house. again, i disagree that the toothpaste is aurout of the tubf the white house scrambling. the number of infections are fairly low, but they're going to have to move quickly and the president is going to have to assure the markets i suggest by bringing in people who may not be political allies to help with this process. >> president xi jinping is the key figure here. it's his relationship with president trump that influenced why this white house was sort of slow to publicly talk about this. because the president is, the u.s. is currently working 0en a trade deal with china. president trump has repeatedly talked about his close relationship with xi jinping and very reluctant to publicly criticize china's response on this and that led to the white house and the administration moving a little slowly. >> what do you sense now? since the meeting yesterday, since the conference yesterday, what do you sense, or was that two days ago? >> the day before yesterday. >> do you sense a different attitude inside the white house? is this task force led by the vice president, are they able to move aggressively? >> well, they want to. they're still sorting out some leadership issues. secretary azar believed even after walking off the stage wednesday thought he was still in charge of the task force and reiterated yesterday, oh, no. this is vice president pence's job now and he brought up an expert from the state department who has more experience handling these issues running the day-to-day while the president take as broader look at things atop this task force. there is alarm there and not just the president right now talking about the economy. a real sense this is spiraling. >> inside the white house. >> inside the white house. >> say to people critical of, willie, people critical of all the information going through mike pence. when you're talking about a pandemic, certainly any management structure would do that. if you have a lot of people dealing with something like this, you don't want one cabinet secretary saying something, causing a panic and the other contradicting them. i think it's very normal if this were a normal management team. i would say this is the right way to do it. but if any of us were running something like this, any leader returning something like this, thee would say, hey, we have a person in charge of the task force. all the information's going through that task force. by the way, if mike pence isn't telling the truth, if mike pence is trying to be overly sunny, you know? optimistic? there will be leaks to the "new york times," to the associated press or the "washington post." we'll find out. >> yeah. in a conventional white house or conventional company that would be the right management structure. the problem is we've learned over three and a half years that mike pence is so loyal and so differential to the president. as the point person is he obviously just saying what the president says. the president says aeays "it's to disappear. one day like a miracle it will disappear." >> again, mr. president if you're watching, talk like that will just make the markets collapse even faster, and will make us even less prepared for the virus. so it really is, jonathan -- who is a person inside the white house that can go to him and deliver that message? mr. president, you're only hurting, you're only hurting us? at our efforts to prepare for this. you're also causing panic in the markets across the globe when you speak that way. who's inside the white house who can tell him that? >> in this current administration? >> dan scanvino. >> there isn't somebody. this is the president trump we've talked for months now -- >> nobody can go into the white house and say it's all going to disappear magically you're causing panic in the markets? it's going to collapse. >> a few voices of course he still listening to. >> can kudlow tell him that? >> to a degree. secretary pompeo, jared kushner. the vice president on certain issue, but there's never been -- those guardrails don't exist anymore. this is the story of the trump administration. for months now, the erosion, the disappearance of the voices in the administration who could get in his, could get into the president's face and say, sir, this isn't working. they're not just watching nervously what's happening in asia. look how quickly it's spread to italy? not just the number of cases but the economic impact. reports about hotel occupancy plummeting in milan, canceling soccer games. the fear that could come here. >> and the uae had a race, a cycle race, a bike race, and there were two people from italy that went over for the race, and tested positive. now they're quarantined. that's how this spreads. >> go to hans nichols at the white house with more on who can talk tolt preside to the president about the potentials here. jonathan lemire mentioned jared, hans? >> reporter: jared at least understands markets and borrowing costs. to the extent he's willing to impart negative news to the president isn't something we've really seen. from a reporting perspective, who understand economics, market side, larry kudlow, to some extent ivanka and another circle who's willing to bring bad news to the president? it's unclear in that case if those circles overlap, but one message the president does get and that's directly from the market. we know he watches it closely. he understands borrowing costs. the fed understands borrowing costs. so when the pentagon a lot of time says the enemy get a vote in any military access and the president's entire response to coronavirus, the market gets a vote. we'll see to what extent the president tries to talk down the market, or talk up the market, i should say, because that's always a very difficult proposition. >> all right. hans, thank you so much at the white house. we appreciate it. let's go now to orangeburg, south carolina. msnbc correspondent garrett haake. a lot going on in south carolina. this actually is one of these -- one of these contests you don't know which direction things are going to break and it's going to have a real impact on super tuesday. talk about everything that was going on there. we have a couple polls out showing joe biden comfortably ahead. others showing it a little closer. we hear bernie's leaving the state. looks like he understands that this one's for biden. the polls, we're talking about biden up in the monmouth poll 20 points, 36 to bernie sanders 13. steyer 15, elizabeth warren 8, pete 6, amy 4. and obviously, a pretty big spread there, but what can you tell us about what happened yesterday and what you're expecting today? >> reporter: yeah. a choose your own adventure feel to these polls. all showing biden leading by a question. a comeback in the race more broadly start with numbers saturday that look like that monmouth poll. if biden can keep bernie sanders from even getting delegates, below 15%, that's the kind of thing that could slingshot biden into the super tuesday states. i was with standers esanders yd made another stop in north carolina and in massachusetts today. he said on the stump he sees things getting closer and closer here, but winning south carolina was never key for bernie sanders. if he can keep within punching distance of joe biden that would be a victory but he's already trying to play out in the super tuesday states in a major way. now we're starting to see biden extend his reach into the super tuesday states a little bit more. announced his travel schedule over the next couple of days. increased significantly in ad buy he's made in super tuesday states. you can see how south carolina could launch the two different strategies into super tuesday where biden plays aggressively into southern states like alabama, arkansas, texas. and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and some of the more liberal candidates are looking at california, massachusetts and some of these other states. if biden and bernie split texas and california, you could see the different ways this race is going to go, but it's clear that being back here in south carolina, a state where he is so well known, where he has such deep connections in the african-american community and getting that jim clyburn endo e endorsement the other day put wind back in joe biden's sails. gone after bernie sanders more aggressively and treating south carolina like a state he expects to win and win big and we could be having a very different conversation about the state of this race come sunday morning if the finals saturday look like what's in that monmouth poll. one other thought. what happens with tom steyer down here? steyer was polling really well in nevada, too, and on caucus day a lot of that support disappeared. some of that is vagaries of the caucus system, but is tom steyer real in south carolina or is he a paper tiger? that could also tell us a lot about how the one-two finish with bernie and biden goes. >> all right. thank you so much. garrett, greatly appreciated. fascinating, willie. out of nevada talk of bernie sanders winning south carolina and moving straight on. how quickly that's changed just in two or three days. now you have the possibility of biden winning big and getting that slingshot and into super tuesday states. that happens, we have a real race for the nomination >> a shocker at this point if joe biden doesn't win south carolina. a question of margin. don't want to call anything now. you're right. is this just a south carolina story. a place where joe biden always expected to win largely because of his support among african-american voters, or does this become a story of joe biden's comeback? time will tell. see what happens on tuesday and don't forget the name michael bloomberg whose staked his entire campaign on what happens tuesday with half a billion worth of spending. >> mika, interesting is that, yes. joe biden was planning on south carolina going well for him, because black voters in south carolina, and because south carolina demographically shapes up, and they actually look like the democratic breakdown there is that. >> the votes. that state does. >> that does that. >> the first race that reflects the demographics of the democratic party. so that's fascinating. also reports through this week that bernie sanders audiences were still overwhelmingly white. >> uh-huh. >> and a lot of observers looking at that saying this guy still -- we're watching the polls but he still really isn't pulling in support from the voters you need the most to win the democratic nomination. >> all right. and still ahead on "morning joe," a pair of important voices on capitol hill. senators chris murphy and dick durbin join the conversation, and as we go to break, the nation takes cues from its leadership when it comes to handling national challenges. so what exactly is the message here? and which one should americans be heeding? >> this isn't about political advantage. >> i think speaker pelosi's incompetent. >> we have to work together. >> same thing with chuck schumer. >> just saying we should be working together >> democrat candidates standing 0en that stage making fools out of themselves. >> it's important to remember we're all in this together. i won the democratic debate that was a demolition derby. >> this is not the time for partisanship. >> you got democrats with the crummiest ideas in politics. >> you got to get away from politics. >> i mean i don't go around like biden where i'm in ohio when i say, thank you very much to people of iowa. >> the democrats should not try and make this -- or republicans, should not make this a political issue. >> the democrats said, how dare he only ask for $2.5 million. never happened. usually i ask for $2.5 billion they're going to give me ten cents. >> we have a country pulling together and pulling together really well. woman: the deadly corona virus officially hitting the us. man: the markets are plunging for a second straight day. vo: health experts warn the us is underprepared. managing a crisis is what mike bloomberg does. in the aftermath of 9-11, he steadied and rebuilt america's largest city. oversaw emergency response to natural disasters. upgraded hospital preparedness to manage health crises. and he's funding cutting edge research to contain epidemics. tested. ready. mike: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. we can't calculate our total taxes? 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>> no. he is not prepared for a crisis like this. quite the contrary. he fired the pandemic specialist two years ago. he's defunded or unfunded or reduced the funding for the centers for disease control. he's had 1,600 scientists leave the government in the first two years of his office. you don't know exactly what's going to happen, but you have to have trained people who have practiced working together and established trust in each other and know where to go so that you can have a team that can, at the last minute, adjust your solutions to whatever problem arises. >> do you think president obama did a better job handling ebola than president trump has done handling coronavirus? >> i don't know how you answer that. president obama had in place teams like i just described so he was much better prepared. sometimes a lot of this stuff is luck. it either hits or it doesn't. gone left should have gone right, left by accident and that was the right way to go, but i think obama had a much greater understanding that you can't do everything by yourself. the way i joke about it is, i spell team t-e-a-m, no "i" in the word team i keep lecturing. president trump spells team is just with the heletter "i." you saw that when he took out the general. there wasn't anyone to go to for advice because he fired everyone in the middle east and every other place. >> talk about bernie sanders you hit aggressively on the debate stage and you're heading into super tuesday. the moderate vote is potentially splintering. did you spend $400-plus million just to hand bernie sanders the nomination? >> i don't know why you think -- look, bernie sanders has been running for years, and this, these four elections i didn't participate in. i had no say in bernie sanders. he's built a group of people that follow him, and -- >> don't you see yourself splintering the other -- support? >> i think -- well -- i believe that if bernie sanders gets the nomination, he will lose to donald trump. he will make sure that the senate stays in republican hands. he will flip the house back to the republicans, and even down ballot, he's going to hurt the democrats. so you will have a lot of gerrymandering down ballot which is, in states, which will hurt the country for a long time, but worse, at the federal level you will have a whole bunch of judges, probably even two supreme court justices, that the republicans will appoint and those judicial decisions that come out of that will be devastating for this country for decades. >> would you vote for bernie sanders over donald trump? >> well, i've criticized the party loyalty where they say you have to vote for the candidate. everybody gets onboard, of course, i'll vote for him and they don't really mean it, and i think -- donald trump got elected because of that kind of loyalty to the party. a lot of people in the party didn't like him, but in this case, the alternative to the democratic candidates even bernie sanders is so bad i've said that i will vote for the democratic candidate, even if it's bernie sanders. now, i'm a little off -- >> you might have to hold your nose and do it? >> turns out i might have to vote for him but the other day his staff for reasons beyond me said i don't want bloomberg's help. i guess i'm off the hook. >> were you preepared to help bernie sanders? >> yes. i made a commitment i would keep offices open through november 3rd. >> how much money would you prepared to spend on -- >> i have no idea. you'll see what's needed. we we we whether you think you can spend it efficiently and whether or not they want it or not. getting a decent number of votes. not going to carry california. bernie sanders by all polling results say he will carry california, but you want to make sure we have time to go forward in the other elections, and win more delegates, and if nobody has a majority, just a plurality, then the democratic party has some rules about you go to the convention in milwaukee and they take one vote and nobody has a majority. then there is a trading, horse trading, however you want to describe it, a process, that the democratic party specified. >> are you committed to staying in through that entire process? >> as long agency you have a chance of winning, absolutely. why would i spend all of this money and all this time out of my life and wear and tear you know -- which i love, incidentally. reminds me of my three campaigns in new york for mayor, which i did like. the difference i have to fly from event to event and there i used to drive from event to event. sure i'd love it. i'm going to stay in it until the end if i have a chance. >> and a plurality you'll still stay in? >> yeah. one vote away from majority you have to start thinking about it, but, yeah. if it's just a plurality, you've got to be in it to win it. anybody that goes -- i'm running a race, and i'm behind with one lap to go. what? am i going to quit? no. you run harder. >> your campaign manager alluded to the possibility you've talked about or considered naming a running mate in an attempt to demonstrate unity. have you had conversations about naming a running mate at this stage of the campaign? >> everybody talks about that. nobody's done it in history. sounds good, then you -- >> ted cruz tried it with carly fiorina. >> that's fair. >> who have you talked to about this possibility? >> why would i tell you? i foe you want to know. >> because i'm asking. >> i know people want to know -- >> would you consider kamala harris, for example. >> i would consider everybody. kamala, i don't know her all that well but the little bit i've talked to her and watched her, she's a very competent woman and done a good job in california. not everybody agrees with that. so you have a tough, tough on crime kind of reputation. but i haven't looked at her resume all that carefully. because it's just -- it's too early to do that. >> stacy abrams? >> very competent. >> may be her biggest supporter, funder, one of her initiative to get out the vote. register people. >> you dismissed your first debate performance saying this is something that, these guys had a lot of practice doing. aren't democratic voters looking for someone who can stand up to donald trump on the debate stage? >> no. they're looking for somebody who can run the country and somebody that can beat donald trump. and the debate is just one thing. we're not looking for a debater in chief. you know? just because you're a good college debater doesn't mean you can run the country. this is insanity. what i found so difficult in the first debate was, i got out there and they're all yelling at each other and nobody's listening to each other and they're talking over each other and then the second debate, sanders and warren gave the same answer to every single question no matter what the question was. said the same thing. why does that help the public make a decision as to who's going to beat donald trump and who is going to be able to run the country? do you really want a debater or do you want a manager who's been there and done that? i think hard pressed to find many people who lived in new york city during my 12 years in office who wouldn't tell you it was the best job any mayor heve done. new york was so much better during those 12 years than any other period in history. i'll rest on my laurels of i know how to do the job, i've been training to be president since, let's say 9/11 when i took ofgfice. you could argue even before then because i was a manager in the private sector's i know how to beat donald trump. beaten him on coal, on guns, on a bunch of these things, and i know how to go head-to-head with donald trump. we both come from new york city. you know, i think i'm tougher than him and and a lot more knowledgeable. he's a real estate promoter. nothing wrong with that, but he's never managed anything and it shows, and it's dangerous. >> you've said you're going to release the three women from disclosure, non-disclosure agreements. >> whether or not they want to say anything i have no idea. >> do you regret anything about what you with those women? >> i shouldn't have said -- all they've alleged i said things that left them uncomfortable. >> do you regret that? >> yeah. i wish i hadn't said it. thank you very much. but everybody, i wish a lot of little things i'd done in life i wish i hadn't done. i'm sorry i did it. i apologized, and the #metoo movement exposed a lot of things we've been doing a long time, nobody focused on it and then now we do, and i think they provided a real service to this country. and hopefully we will all change and not go back to when people stopped focusing on this. >> do you think they will speak out? the women that you -- >> i have absolutely no idea. >> do you hope they will? >> it's totally up to them. you know. the only thing they alleged -- never alleged i did anything in touching or anything else. just that i said some things that left them uncomfortable and i just don't know. >> all right. if you're elected, do you commit to only serving two terms as president of the united states? i will not try to change the constitution. that's correct. yes, but keep in mind it was my city council that did it. i just signed the big. >> mike bloomberg, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> oh, my gosh. such a good interview. >> great interview. you know, kasie, a lot of people talked about mike bloomberg's lost several steps, looked confused, dazed, out there on the debate stage. anybody that thought that and then just watched that interview, actually saw that bloomberg is still at the top of his game, and you do -- you do wonder where that was during the debate. i thought it was very telling that he said, hey, this isn't a -- this isn't a contest to find the best college debater. this, who can run the country. i've got to say, it was without a doubt the most effective we've seen bloomberg this entire campaign. >> you know, that was a little bit of a jab at elizabeth warren, the college debater line, and you know, when i talked to him, it was very clear that he simply felt that the way that these debates have played out is in some ways worthy of an eye roll. sort of his attitude towards it, and i agree with you on the trail he seemed, you know, very sharp, very much focused on the mission at hand. i mean, the campaign that he's built, we've talked a little about this, but it is incredibly professional. this is not just a situation where they are throwing $400 million up on television and hoping something sticks. they have hired the best in politics. they have invested in the kinds of things that have won in the past. now, the question is, i mean, their numbers took a real hit after that performance. they will say privately they think that's turning around. my real question here is still the fact that he seems to be splintering the vote away from particular will joe biden. biden has struggled in the resource department. hardly has any money up on the air on super tuesday states and has name recognition. what's going to happen? does that simply clear the way for bernie sanders? kind of why i asked the question the way i did. is he ultimately spending all of this money simply to make bernie sanders the nominee? but that commitment to stay in to the end -- i mean, he's got the money to back that up. we could be in for a really nasty, drawn-out fight here. >> kasie, thank you. that is really a great interview. wide-ranging. >> really great. >> you know, we've met bloomberg over the years, done stuff with him, what we didn't see in the debate we saw in the interview. asked a certain question about potentially talking to vice presidential concerneds, why would i tell you? that's vintage bloomberg. >> well it is. >> very blunt. >> and, yeah. can be blunt talking but people -- bernie's blunt talking, people like that. >> yeah. why i'm saying it positively. >> willie, every politician has their own skill sets. bush w. very good at things and terrible at other things. barack obama, very good in certain settings, not as good in other settings. but bloomberg here, terrible on the debate stage, but i actually, i think mika was right. before he did his first debate should have done a lot of interviews because he's very strong in that setting and in the gish and take you do understand how much more equipped he is to run the country than, say, donald trump or even some of the other people on the campaign, on the democratic stage who just seem to be spouting out talking points. >> i had the same thought. a lot of smart people around him but should have listened to mika about a month ago said, pus him out there, do interviews. >> address the hard stuff. >> he's been mysterious. the man behind the curtain. to the country. those of us in new york have gotten to know, he's been, of course, a mayor 12 years here. the only time you saw him step out from behind the curtain during the two debates. >> and everybody was screaming at each other. >> and screaming at him. that was not a good format for him. when he steps out and speaks particularly at the beginning with kasi and her excellent interview as coronavirus you saw that mayor, that technocrat, the guy that would see a problem and figure how to address and attack it. if he wants to do well on super tuesday he ought to do more interviews like that, showed the g grass root stales, subject knowledge of the matter. technocrat mentality he took to city hall. in the debates, first in particular, really nervous. flustered by it, perhaps not as well prepared as he should have been. this was the bloomberg we saw as mayor for 12 years. >> isn't it interesting in both of those debates when the screaming sort of calmed down about 70 minutes in and in both debates he delivered his first good answer. the first debate. >> cogent. >> it was climate change. and delivered the best answer on climate change. and then this past debate i think it was on the coronavirus, when all the screaming, yelling and posing and the sound bites and all the things everybody else was planning to get in for their jabs he was very effective on data points. >> that's right. when the atmosphere settled down he became more comfortable in that moment and saw him. he did much better in the second half of both debates. coronavirus, there wasn't a question about it in the debate a few days ago, which is stunning considering that's all we're talking about now. he's the one who brought it up. he talked about it. you certainly don't want to take at advantage of a public health emergency for political gain. but in a moment like this, we see a scattershot response from the white house, president trump's news conference the other day all over the place, alternating between trying to be reassuring and taking pot shots, bloomberg'stechnocratic approach might be calming and appealing to people as voters go to the ballot box tuesday thinking about the coronavirus. >> one of those interviews that actually changes. >> yes. >> at least my impression of a candidate. because i really did think, like -- i heard it from some other people that mike bloomberg had lost several steps over the past few years because he just seemed completely out of it in the debates. he hasn't lost a step. if you look at that interview, which just means we're in for a long. >> a wild ride. >> democratic primary. if biden has a good week like polls are suggesting he will, you're going to have three people maybe four people really fighting for this thing. >> okay. coming up our next guest is a doctor and expert in public health who has a new piece for the "atlantic" magazine with alarming title "you're likely to get the coronavirus." >> yeah. >> okay. we'll have that when we come back. >> happy days. 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make the world you want. it's going to disappear one day it's like a miracle it will disappear and from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better. could maybe go away. we'll see what happens. nobody really knows. >> welcome back. 54 past the hour. bring in dr. jim hamlin a chained radiologist left his residency to report for "the atlantic" later finished in general preventative medicine and lectures at the yale school of pup lick health. latest article for the "atlantic," "you're live li "atlantic," "you're live kely t get the coronavirus." >> is it likely the virus will disappear? >> no. becoming increasingly unlikely and part of what we wanted to convey with that headline this is likely something that will be around for a long time. it's not suggested that most people are going to get it in the short term but over the long term if this stays with us for multiple seasons, years, eventually, yeah. >> does it have the possibility to do that? explain how. >> it does. so there's a lot of uncertainty right now, but what we know is that this is looking something like a bad flu. which you could get and most people are going to recover from. >> right. it's the vulnerable. >> right. a mild to severe illness, and you'll have some sort of temporary immunity and it can pass through populations and then it could come back in future years. >> so, doctor, if you were looking at this from a public health standpoint, what would you be doing and what do you think the government should be doing that it's not doing? >> quick diagnostic testing and 12 studies to know what it looks like, who's more likely to develop severe disease. who needs to get treatment? at what point do you get tested or go see a doctor? so we can allocate resources most efficiently. >> so one of the things is, we read back aboutant 1919 pandemic that was so confusing to a lot of people, was the fact it was actually the young, the strong, that often were impacted the most by that pandemic. who's going to be impacted the most by this pandemic? is it more likely toddlers, the elderly, people with a history of upper respiratory problems or more like the 1919 pandemic, if it becomes a pandemic? >> we've seen it affect everyone. all different age groups, healthy and unhealthy alike. most of the severe disease focused in older people. so people who already have conditions, chronic conditions. people who are older and most likely severe disease to die but no one is going to be exempt from it. i think that's part of what makes any, anytime we have a really bad flu season people get especially scared if it's a strain that kills or severely sickens people in prime of life. >> can it be recurring? >> it seems this, seems right now that's the most likely course. this will be something that spreads widely, will -- might let up a little bit in summer. might -- and might come back in the fall, and then might come back in future years. >> so there's a case in california where nobody knows where this one patient got it. do you expect we will be hearing about more patients, given how rapidly it passes between people? how possible is it there aren't other people who were exposed to this person? >> it's very like -- we have really not been testing people in this country, except for in severe cases. once we start screening and looking for people who might have had milder illnesses and just didn't go see a doctor. how often when you get the flu or a bad cold you go to the doctor? to say i have the flu. >> once we have the capacity around the country to test people we'll likely see there are more cases. >> and explain, because you read the news that, for 80% of the people that get the virus that is very mild, no worse than the common cold and that sounds like good news, unless you read on that it actually makes it more dangerous in part because it will spread more because it's not as severe. >> that is what makes this in such a dangerous space. that you have the common cold, which spreads really easily but doesn't want to kill people. nos the virus interest to kill its host. and outbreaks like sars and mers which can kill people quickly, get really sick, go to the hospital and doesn't transmit. this can be deadly and also transmit. >> we want to obviously take it seriously. we are obviously taking it seriously without creating some kind of panic, but when you see things like disney closing disneyland in tokyo. tokyo shutting down all of its schools for two weeks. where are you in terms how concerned you are in terms of it coming to america? >> hmm. >> it is going to come to america. it is going to spread. i think -- no one is expecting that we will not have a significant number of cases, but exactly what you do in terms of shutting things down is a key question we need to think about right now, because we can't just shut down our society in the way that china did and it will not be in our interests to try to close down all of our businesses for a year, close down airports and roads and schools. so we have to be strategic about once we can test and know exactly how this spreads and who's most vulnerable we can be strategic about what we close down and what we don't. >> wow. doctor hamlin, thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll be going live to stephanie ruhle at the new york stock exchange in a few minutes about exactly what the doctor was talking about where the markets has a continued response to the outbreak and companies' reactions around the country. the dow and s&p on their worse performance the last two weeks down more than 10.5% on the week. and tomorrow's south carolina primary, joe biden might be holding on to a commanding lead. the former vice president sits at 36%. 20 points ahead of the democratic primary field. he is followed by a statistical tie between senator bernie sanders at 16% and tom steyer at 15%. steyer is up 11 points since last year. >> so, yeah. so you know, willie. it's interesting. so there have been two polls out now over the past couple days that have joe biden up by 20 points. i think nbc poll only up by four points. >> yeah. >> but it certainly seems if you just look at the polls to be breaking biden's way in a big way, and away from sanders. john heilemann texted me, watching the show in south carolina and texted and said it was very interesting that, in all the bernie events he went to, 95% of people there were white. he doesn't seem to be expanding on his base of support and that monmouth poll, go into the crosstabs, only 13% of black voters are supporting sanders. he got 14% in 2016. so, again, even bringing this up, we've been bringing this up for months now. if you're going to win the democratic nomination, you're not going to do it with affluent, white, young people. you are going to have to expand, and you're going to have to get black voters to vote for you, more than one in ten? >> yeah. bernie sanders always had to do more than he did in 2016. he has big fervent followers. to be the nominee it needs to be more than the traditional base he's had and joe biden enjoyed support of african-american voters from the time he got into this campaign. he's had the lead there. it looked for a while after early wins from bernie sanders, looking into crosstabs in south carolina, like he might be eating into joe biden's lead, bernie sanders was. but the kacase is now that joe biden is going to win south carolina. it's a question, by how much? what does that mean for bernie sanders? he's conceded there. moved on to massachusetts tonight. >> interesting. >> a big rally on boston common tomorrow to try to snatch massachusetts away from elizabeth warren. campaigning in south carolina yesterday joe biden took issue with senator bernie sanders' reported interest in a 2012 primary challenge to barack obama after warning against the challenges of a medicare for all health care policy. >> one of the great things, and i must tell you, just straight with you, one of the reasons i like bernie and resent bernie, though, is he wanted to primary barack in 2012. he said he should be primaried, people are disappointed. doing a lousy job. i fundamentally disagree with that. >> senator sanders' medicare for all push will be a long, long expensive slog. cost over $35 trillion, and the patients can't afford to wait. can't afford to wait for what he calls and others call, i believe they're totally sincere, a revolution. people, when you're sick, you want peace of mind and know you're going to be able to be taken care of, and you'll be able to be covered and not leave your family destitute, where you'll be able to handle whatever the cost it is you need. our patients can't afford to wait. >> highway to the danger zone, man. we're the aviators. >> and nbc news, msnbc contributor shawna thomas and former white house director of communications to president obama and director of communications for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, jen palmieri in charleston, south carolina. also from washington with us, msnbc contributor and author of "how the right lost its mind" cha charlie sykes is with us. >> after trying to call me out on twitter for not being on the show enough. you know, in all of wisconsin, like, there's, like, no appreciate studios except, like, they've got hamster wheels for generators here. you get us a studio, charlie. we'll get you on more there, but we love having you on, charlie. >> it is good to be back. thank you. >> it is good to have you back. >> i have the most important question of the morning. >> about aviators? >> yes. should a presidential candidate wear aviators are ray bans. >> this is why i went to college and got a college degree, but, that's his brand. right? i think joe biden if he wants to wear aviators should wear aviators. i'm not going to judge his dress. >> isn't it interesting how things are breaking here? we heard bernie after nevada and, of course, all the democrats in d.c. set their hair on fire and running around, it's like trump again! it's like trump! and it was a done deal. a fade accompli. sanders was going to run away with it. half way through the week, sanders is leaving the state. he's going -- you know -- now he's heading up to massachusetts to try to finish off elizabeth warren. and suddenly biden looks like -- >> biden looks like -- >> he may be back in this this? >> biden looks like the guy who can win south carolina, which we have been saying since last year. we've always sort of thought of it as somewhat of a firewall. the question is, if the monmouth poll is right and biden runs away with it, bernie's still viable in that poll. right? still wins a couple delegates and comes down to, no the to skip over this weekend in south carolina super tuesday. >> right, but why -- why is south carolina a firewall other than because black voters that are there represent the demographic breakdown of the democratic party a lot more than iowa and new hampshire? and it's not a caucus like nevada. right? >> true. biden people said that a long time, but also you can't discount bernie's performance with hispanics in nevada as well. so i mean, we can have a larger conversation, once again, if iowa and new hampshire should go first because they're nom representative of the democratic party. >> can i say, no, no and no, that's not a long conversation. >> don't you think the democratic party's going to have to confront that, having two predominantly white states shape the -- >> what happened in iowa and caucuses being so hard to run and not knowing the numbers for days and days. do we know what the number was in iowa now? >> as of last night. yes. don't ask me what they are, but, yes, as of last night. >> the democratic party has to have that conversation and interesting to see who leads it. bernie sanders is the reason why, the way the democratic party elects this nominee is different than last time. interesting to see who pushes that. >> jen, shawna's right. this could be a south carolina story and a south carolina story only for joe biden, depending, of course, what happens on tuesday. bernie sanders will say as he moves on already to massachusetts, i came in second in south carolina. if he does, you know, joe biden always had big support there traditionally. was always going to win that state, but watch me in california. i'm going to take 400 delegates and the conversation changes again in three days. >> yeah. i mean, so the biden argument has turned out to be right. correct? you know, he and, he was second in nevada. i was surprised he did -- behind 20 points but still second in nevada. appear s to be winning here. the "boston courier" had the race tighter. this is a hard state to poll. i was with the sanders team last night and they argued the electorate will look a lot different than the polls. the electorate more african-americans turns out to vote first time. same dynamic in nevada. i'm not sure that, they don't seem at confident certainly as they did about nevada, but either making a difference, making a run for different kinds of voters. i think south carolina will matter in that it could be indicative how african-americans and other super tuesday states will vote. right? so it's not like that the results will stay contained here, if that same dynamic happens on tuesday in these other southern states. >> yeah. you know, charlie sykes, i don't know if you heard earlier but we were talking about the krostabs in the monmouth poll. bernie sanders getting 13% of african-american voters in south carolina. got 14% in 2016. john heilemann going to bernie's event and say overwhelmingly white. like 95% white. doesn't sound like a guy who's expanding his support among african-americans as much as polls were suggesting a couple weeks ago? >> and that's why what's going to happen in south carolina is significant. whatever the expectations are, this is going to be the first really diverse electorate. i have to say i really, really have been struck over the last week by the fact that democrats for the last four years have been describing donald trump as an existential threat. until now haven't acted like it. instead indulging ideological vanity, yelling at one another. i wonder if a moment stepping back going, are we really going to do this? nominate somebody republicans are rooting for? i heard mike bloomberg's interview a little while ago and thought he was very, very impressive talking about the need for competence in respect is going to be another look at joe biden. the adult in the room. somebody that, in fact, could be electable. it's always difficult to say. i mean, four years ago i thought wisconsin would be the firewall against donald trump. instead turned out to be a speed bump. i wonder whether or not south carolina could change this narrative as people realize, look. we are in a dangerous situation. do we really want to put up a 78-year-old socialist who wants to ban, you know, private insurance and is going to increase the federal budget by $60 trillion? >> far better to put up a 77-year-old moderate that was vice president -- is that how old biden is? i don't know. all in their 70s. >> yeah, right. >> so, you know, it is so interesting, charlie. we've been talking about wisconsin, of course. if tim russert were here he'd say the 2020 campaign is about wisconsin, wisconsin, wisconsin, instead are florida, florida, florida. fox news polls always drive donald trump crazy. look at some of the head-to-head matchups and see how well donald trump is doing. head-to-head matchups heard from the republican party how great impeachment was for donald trump and democrats were such fools. let's see. joe biden. huh. beating donald trump by eight points 49-41. michael bloomberg 48-40. bernie sanders 49-42. elizabeth warren 46-43. pete buttigieg 45-42. amy up those are certainly going to be maddening to the president. they are going to be also encouraging to democrats but look at those swing states especially wisconsin, and, you know, the only -- and this is why in mortal words of william goldman, i think. nobody knows nothing. >> right. >> the only person, only democrat right now in recent polls that appears to be beating donald trump -- bernie sanders. he's the only guy i've seen ahead of donald trump in wisconsin. oh, and there's the poll. just magically have it there. beats him by two. >> yeah. wisconsin's going to be on the razor's edge, but i would have a couple of cautions there. first of all, all of those numbers are werithin the error margin. key to keep in mind in wisconsin. 70,000 voters in wisconsin voted for republican senator ron johnson but not donald trump. if -- my sengs se if democrats nominate sanders it's an excuse to go back to donald trump. hold their nose once again and vote for trump. i think that there's -- there are reasons for both parties to be optimistic, but i'm not sure that bernie sanders will play well in the milwaukee suburbs and not sure he's going to change momentum in rural wisconsin, particularly with some of the stands he's been taking. >> jen, talking about wisconsin. you were there with hillary. did hillary lose wisconsin because white working-class guys went out and voted for donald trump instead of a democrat? or because black voters stayed home? what was the -- what was the post-mortem from you guys? >> it's both. right? it's both. but when you have, when you lose a state by such a small margin, any one thing can make a difference. that is the crux of the, the crux of the choice. right? is it you're going back to get the former trump voter or trying to expand the electorate. i'd like to see a nominee that could bo doeth. >> shawn >> -- do both. >> shawna, looking at numbers, the past two, three years. those obama-trump voters are going to be obama trump-trump voters. if democrats want to win the race they have to expand the electorate and have to get black voters, hispanic voters to come out. >> the obama coalition to come out that got him the win in 2012 when it was a sort of closer race with mitt romney. they have to do that. i always come back, funny jen is on. always come back to the numbers i keep in my phone about the wisconsin election that hillary clinton lost by 22,748 votes. jill stein took 31,000. so there is a liberal group of people who showed up. >> and this year -- >> oh, i -- i also someone tweeted about tulsi gabbard and i forgot she was in the race and still actually is running? >> i believe so, yes. >> i don't know if that's tulsi gabbard in the general. i just think it always points to me this group of people who are committed enough to get up and vote. they got up and voted tuesday or before that, i don't know if wisconsin has early vote the and went and voted for jill stein. that means there are group and pockets of liberals. i do sometimes wonder, is that enough to sort of take a bernie sanders over the edge, or will you turn off so many other people that it doesn't matter? i mean, there's lots -- jen pointed out, lots of factors here, and in those small, small margins in florida, wisconsin and pennsylvania, any one of those things can be an issue. any one of those things could help the democrat, too. >> charlie, let me ask you the question on the other side of the equation there. could a strong libertarian candidate take 30, 35, 40,000 votes from donald trump in wisconsin if they're a small -- like you and me? they actually believe in small government conservatism and believe in balanced budgets and actually believe in restrained foreign policy and actually believe that you don't have socialist plans for farmers where you give them $16 billion because your protection as president. are there 30,000, 35,000 libertarians in wisconsin? >> i think so. in a trump-sanders matchup a lot of political orphans and that's a moment for a libertarian candidate. back to the numbers. in wisconsin there are so many ways of breaking it down. keep in mind that hillary clinton got about 40,000 fewer votes out of milwaukee county than barack obama did. african-americans did not turn out. more than the margin. but the republicans picked up something like a quarter of a million votes in rural wisconsin. focus on the suburbs, folk fobus on the african-american vote and those are crucial, but the trends in rural america are really going to play out in some of these states and i think democrats need to focus on that part of the electorate which doesn't seem to get the focus i think it deserves. >> and an issue that -- >> and one thing about -- >> go ahead, jen. >> one other thing about wisconsin is that 60% of the people, the pop pu wisconsin is that 60% of the people, the pop plation that di not vote, eligible to vote 60% white working class. that number is true in pennsylvania. true in michigan and wisconsin. the trump campaign is making a really big effort to register those voters to try to expand their voting base too. the other side is looking at this in an aggressive way and why democrats have to be very focused on expanding that base, not just trying to persuade others. >> another issue bound to play a big role in the election, the coronavirus, and just this morning new signs of the economic impact of the global coronavirus outbreak. just a few minutes ago the geneva international motor show was canceled. it comes after the swiss government banned all events for more than 1,000 people that were expected to attend. >> we keep hearing about this, mika. tech, important tech conferences being canceled. >> an economic story. >> again, what's hovering over everything, certainly here, is what to do with the olympics in japan. >> bring in nbc news senior business correspondent and msnbc anchor stephanie ruhle on the floor of the new york stock exchange and she's been following this closely. steph? >> reporter: mika, it's so important that you just referenced the geneva auto show. the fact switzerland is canceling all events with people over 1,000. when president trump said this isn't that big a deal. flu is worse. from an economic perspective it is not about the amount of people getting sick. it's about the economic impact that governments, that companies that individuals are taking such necessary precautionary measures that are clearly going to have a huge economic impact. think about the fact that school is closed in japan throughout the end of the month, when facebook is expecting over 1,000 people at their conference, huge impact. companies across the board are canceling all business travel. they're encouraging employees to work from home. from a stock market perspective, the few stocks that did well yesterday all have to do with staying home. peloton, zoom, a videoconferencing business. anything that's putting yourself out there isn't doing well. the economy has been growing because of consumer spending. consumers are not going to be spending at time like this. >> yeah. hey, what do futures look like right now? a couple hours ago 600 down. what do they look like right now? >> things are down. looking -- about just less than 400 at this point. remember, the market can turn on a dime, though. things are in the red. they could easily be in the green. the market is different from the economy. we haven't actually seen any earnings numbers but predictions we're getting from some companies like mastercard and paypal are saying we are going to take a hit. >> yeah, but also you have goldman sachs talking about possible 0% growth this year. and obviously we've seen it over the past couple of years that every time the market drops people go, okay. i'm going to go in and i'm going to make a quick buck. that's not happening right now, and what's out there that would lead anybody to think that the concern over the coronavirus is anywhere near to abating and should jump back into the market? >> well, listen, we're never advising anybody as far as making a quick buck but warren buffett said it a couple days ago. it if you like a company, if you like a business, you might want to buy that stock, because your trajectory is five years or so. as far as day trading, joe, we do not have enough information right now. think about the information we've gotten from our government in the last three days. we're risk managers, as people and investors. when you've got a president or larry kudlow saying we've got this thing basically airtight and boom, it pops up in california and now in 50 countries, how can you ever trust that information? 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yes! we're stuck. the career skills that really matter- like teamwork, responsibility, and serving others... hey... can i help you? are the ones you learn here. welcome to mcdonald's. can i help you? i've been very clear in all of this. our responsibility is to win the house. my responsibility is to make sure those we elected last time return to congress, keep the majority and add to our numbers. the presidential is its own race, and i don't -- contrary to what you may be hearing or writing, we are not getting -- we are all unified. whoever the nominee is of our party we will wholeheartedly support. our gospel is one of unity, unity, unity. >> house speaker nancy pelosi when asked what she's saying to reassure democrats who may be worried about a bernie sanders nomination. that comes amid a reported effort to stop senator bernie sanders in dozens of interviews with dozens of democratic party officials. the "new york times" found nome are some establishment leaders worried about sanders candidacy, they are also willing to risk damaging the party to stop his nomination. the "times" says since sanders victory in nevada on saturday the paper interviewed 93 party officials, all of them super delegates who could have had a say on the democratic nominee at this summer's convention and found overwhelming opposition to handing sanders the nomination if he falls short of a majority of delegates. >> i think, charlie sykes, i heard chris matthews quoting richard nix an few nights ago saying any movement that starts with the word "stop" loses. if it's "stop trump." if it's "stop sanders." all you do, you're in the establishment. all you do is, it's like the obi-wan kenobi rule of politics. try to strike him down, you only make him stronger. >> yeah. i remember this kind of talk four years ago. the "stop trump" movement that went pretty much nowhere. you have an overwhelming response a reality check, that democrats realize that bernie sanders, his nomination, puts at risk the house majority. that there are huge consequences. so what, in fact -- rather than sitting around talking about how they're going to block him at the convention, this would be a great moment to talk about, are you going to coalesce behind an opponent? how about putting some money into television ads in the super tuesday states? because this is going to be resolved very, very quickly. how about putting more pressure on the candidates who have no hope perhaps to drop out and make endorsements to avoid what happened in 2016, because if it gets to milwaukee, it's going to be too late, whatever they're saying now. >> yeah. jonathan lemire, bernie sanders right now obviously is the strongest person in the field. he's the only non-self-funded candidate that has the money to advertise on super tuesday and the money to move beyond that. >> he does. we're seeing here an effort with an event schedule in massachusetts another one in miss miss. seems he's trying to deliver knockout blows to a couple candidates, senators warren and klobuchar if able to win in their home states. he is well-funded and not going anywhere obviously and can play on super tuesday. in fact, most polls show him up in a number of these states. interesting to see in the next couple of days what momentum comes out of south carolina. the polls, by varying degrees, show joe biden seems poised to win there. biden has now, we've just learned, booked for four sunday shows this weekend. i think largely he's avoided doing shows banking on a big win saturday in south carolina and hoping to use that, sunday shows, as a platform to capitalize momentum and certainly needs to put up a strong showing on super tuesday as well. virginia, his campaign targeting for a win. a large african-american voting population and mike bloomberg tries to hold off though states. biden has financial issues. not fund-raised nearly to the degree the other democratic candidates have. he needs this moment. he needs this narrative of a comeback and needs to be able to capitalize on that with money in order to keep going forward and presenting himself as the moderate alternative. singular moderate alternative to bernie sanders. >> we mentioned earlier, bernie sanders literally moved on from south carolina. at a campaign event yesterday in virginia. senator sanders criticizing former vice president joe biden over his voting record. >> the way we defeat trump is by bringing forth the largest voter turnout in the history of this country. that's what you need to beat trump. [ cheers and applause ] and in my view you don't do that with the same old, same old style of politics. now, my good friend joe biden, who i have a lot of respect for, joe is not going to bring new people into the political process -- when people know that he voted for the war in iraq. not going to create excitement among working people, when they learn that he voted for an awful bankruptcy bill. not going to bring new people in to the political process when they learn that he voted for trade agreements like nafta and pntr with china which cost us millions of good paying jobs. not going to bring people into the political process or the democratic party when they learn that he stood on the floor of the senate time and time again talking about the need to cut social security, medicare and medicaid. >> bernie sanders clearly didn't get nancy pelosi's message about unity in the party. obviously running a campaign and in a different position. >> in a primary. >> this idea of stopping bernie sanders out there from the other candidates also from the democratic establishment. imagine a scenario where you get to milwaukee, and he doesn't have the majority of delegates. bernie sanders, but he does have a plurality. won the most popular vote. is the democratic party really going to try to take this away from bernie sanders? can you imagine the revolution that would come from sanders supporters and justified in feeling that way. >> i have a hard time believing especially after 2016 the democratic party would -- as in the dnc, would try to do something to put their thumb on the scale. in that "new york times" article with basically super delegate elites having worry, that, in this point of fact to what joe and charlie were saying. it fuels bernie sanders. this is the, the consistent message he had in 2016. one thing about bernie sanders is he's consistent about almost all of his messages, except for guns. >> uh-huh. >> the message that came out of 2016 for bernie sanders, which kept him in with all of these people who kind of love him was the elites tried to steal that away from me. they did not give me a fair shot. >> right. >> i think you -- you tear people apart and you also, you also rick, if somehow the super delegates come in and give it to joe biden or whoever actually has the next most amount of delegates. the bernie sanders wing not showing up and voting. and -- or i think overblown. the bernie sanders-trump voter from 2016. i've met a couple out there in the world, but i think they -- they want a revolution. they want someone who is fiery and passionate about the same things they are fiery and passionate about. it is an emotional thing with bernie sanders, and if they don't show up and vote you are not expanding your electorate. >> yeah, you know, jen, bernie sanders is consistent on almost every issue. >> and pass ionate. >> except the issue we're talking about now. in 2016 bernie said it didn't mat here had the most delegates going to the convention. you played by the rules, and if you didn't hit the market, didn't have majority of delegates it was an open convention. he's changed this time around, but now all the other candidates are saying, you know what? it's not the person with the most delegates. if it's the plurality, you have to have majority. interesting to see how that plays out between now and -- if for some reason we do get to the convention, and there's not a majority held by any candidate. >> yeah. and they did have a slightly different argument in 2016 about going all the way to the convention, and having that, have that debate there. i noted, you know, harry reid in nevada last week. he said, you know, about this question, brought this question up said if you're going into, going into the convention and 60% of democrats don't support the person who has the most delegates, then that's a legitimate, a legitimate fight to have. it seems super unappealing to me for democrats to have to go through that and we're a long way off, after nevada. looked like -- i thought sanders could roll into south carolina and sweep it up the same way he did in nevada, and that, now i feel like there's a more sobering effect here. you saw the "times" had a story over the weekend with sanders' team saying we'll finish, suggesting they're going to finish joe biden off here and we see that's not going to happen. voter in south carolina looking at me, of course biden. always going to be biden. the biden argument. it's kicking in late but i think that they were right to suggest that once we got down here, things were going to slow down and it would be differ and probably in for a long slog but it may not be the sanders -- sanders may not prove to be the runaway train with thought just over a few days ago. >> we'll see. >> charlie, ask you quickly before we go. you know in my home state of florida, there are a lot of people that voted for donald trump, who over the course of the past three years have told me, i can't vote for him. he's just -- he's too much. he's too erratic. that's changed and awful lot since bernie sanders has taken the lead in the democratic party. and now they're going, ah -- i can't vote for bernie sanders. i'm curious. just anecdotally. all anecdotally. what about wisconsin over the past few year ss? have you found people who voted for donald trump especially suburbs of milwaukee and the scene there, have you seen people who have moved away from donald trump anecdotally? >> some, but, no. i think that what you're describing is more likely to be the pattern, which is that people who held their nose and voted for donald trump are willing to rationalize it once again and then you do have that delta between the people who voted for donald trump and did not vote for trump but voted for ron johnson. i'm hearing, if it's bernie sanders, we cannot possibly sit this one out. we're not going to vote for the democrat. i do think there's a factor there. throw in gratuitous advice. if mike bloomberg really wants to make an impact on this race he needs to go up on the air and target bernie sanders now. not wait until super tuesday. he's got to be there. the singler focus. if you want to avoid this armageddon in milwaukee, you have to do it and the focus should be michael bloomberg. paying attention whatsoever what he's got to do and do it very, very quickly. >> thank you both for being on the show this morning. up in ex-tnext the presiden the naacp a message ahead of tomorrow's south carolina primary. we're back in just a moment. woman: the deadly corona virus officially hitting the us. man: the markets are plunging for a second straight day. vo: health experts warn the us is underprepared. managing a crisis is what mike bloomberg does. in the aftermath of 9-11, he steadied and rebuilt america's largest city. oversaw emergency response to natural disasters. upgraded hospital preparedness to manage health crises. and he's funding cutting edge research to contain epidemics. tested. ready. mike: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. i need all the breaks, that i can get. at liberty butchumal- cut. liberty biberty- cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. no no no no no, there's no space there! maybe over here? 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because actually you have a demographic breakdown that accounts for the importance of black voters in this process? >> for many of us we feel that south carolina is, in fact, the beginning of the primary. more reflective of the democratic party. more reflective of the electorate in america, and for the naacp it speaks volumes in terms of candidates' interest and value of the african-american vote. have they invested in learning the institutions, talking to local communities to ensure that the needs and interests of african-americans not only in south carolina but across the country are being heard and they're speaking to those needs and interests. >> seems we find in every debate every white politician has sinned against black voters at some point in the their lives. michael bloomberg constantly hammered on stop and frisk. bernie voted for the crime bill. biden voted for the crime bill. mayor pete, of course, has had his problems in south bend, indiana. how should black voters, how do you believe black voters should sort through these past positions that are troubling to african-americans, not only in south carolina but across america? >> well, no. no individual will be perfect. the real question here is for candidates who have been running for four-plus years or candidates who have been in the national limelight. have they made amends for any bad policies decisions which took place. take a candidate like bernie sanders. for the last four years, have you spent a significant amount of time in south carolina? in african-american communities, to really hear and learn. >> has he? >> around the needs or interests? has he? my opinion, i don't know. i think the south carolina outcome would speak volumes. has he invested the necessary political capital to say, hey. i have a major platform, but this important base of democratic party is so significant i'm going to learn and's listen and cater a message that appeals to them. that's for all the candidates. not only bernie sanders. and in south carolina, the outcome will tell the story. >> so the same question, i guess, for michael bloomberg, as it pertains to stop and frisk. has he done something to make amends, if that's the right word? and if not, what in the world could he do at this point? >> well, you know, i think step in the right direction has come out and apologize, talk about it was a bad policy. and then from there. what other things has he done since stop and frisk to try to recover from that very bad policy that our organization file add lawsuit against new york city to stop. those are important questions. we have a problem in minneapolis with a young man still serving time for a crime he did not commit, and that was as a result of prosecution by senator klobuchar as a prosecutor. we still are dealing with the question of aggressive policing in south bend, indiana. the crime bill has been a problem for many people who are still incarcerated and as a result of the vote by joe biden and senator bernie sanders, but south carolina, which speaks voluming and voters are smart. it is the base of the party, and something that should not be taken lightly. >> shawna? >> yeah. i mean, i think one question i have is, do you think the candidates so far have spoken about these things, things that affect the black community and things that affect the his tapa community, the economy and the racial financial marketer makes it unique to these communities. do you think they're speaking a be that in white audiences any of? some of what i think people look for is, are you not only willing to confront these issues and listen about these issues at the black church in south carolina on sunday? are you willing to talk about it in a larger context? do you think we've seen enough of that to really actually speak to -- to the african-american vote? >> absolutely. let's be clear. the ultimate winner in november will be dependent on the black vote. if we increase turnout, the democratic nominee will win. if the, the black turnout is level, the democratic nominee will lose, period. so we spend so much time catering to a small fraction of the american voter and forget about the base. michigan was lost by less than 11,000 votes, yet 28,000 people voted in the city of detroit, 80% black city and skipped top of the ticket. in tells me, one, that the republican nominee was not appealing, and, two, the democratic nominee did not speak to those voters. i would hate for history to repeat itself. >> mr. johnson, willie geist. great to is have you with us this morning. joe biden despite early struggles back in polling amongst african-american voters no south carolina. 20% to 30% leads just this week. in that area. how do you explain, i think his appeal with african-american voters reduced to well, he was vice president to the first african-american president. how do you explain specifically why he does so well among african-american voters? >> start with, you cannot minimize the impact of congress illman jim clyburn and his voice. he is a power house in south carolina, black and white and a trusted voice in that state. we cannot minimize that. secondly, joe biden is familiar with the african-american community. he's active in the state of delaware. he's been a life member of the naacp and i don't want to say this like i'm endorsing one candidate over the other, but there is a level of familiarity with joe biden, and that's important. some candidates, they have just stepped up recently to try to become friends to the african-american community, and the african-american voters are too smart for that. we are looking for individuals who are more genuine than to just show up because they need a vote. >> jonathan lemire? >> mr. johnson, there were several african-american candidates as part of the democratic field beginning of this race, kamala harris, cory booker, deval patrick. none around as we move into south carolina. talk that's because iowa and new hampshire went first. overwhelmingly they are white states. others speculate crowded out by billionaires like michael bloomberg and tom steyer. what do you attribute that african-american candidates are not still around and how disheartening for you? >> first of all, the primary is a blood sport and it's the -- it's a survival of the fittest, but the money in politics almost make it impossible for any candidate, black, white, male or female, to survive three, four primaries. but more importantly, we need to have a primary system that better is reflected adversity of this nation. iowa, it is a blip on the screen when you talk about the bigger picture. new hampshire is one of the whitest states in the country. when you start when you start in south carolina, you really are looking at the diversity of america. when you go to super tuesday, you go looking at the diversity of america and with that diversity, it allows candidates of many backgrounds to truly compete. but we still have this barrier of money in politics. that is a hard thing to overcome, particularly with the cost of media, digital media and building out a true ground game. it's an expensive endeavor. >> all right. derrick johns job, thank you so much for being with us on the show this morning. >> thank you. coming up, president trump says the coronavirus will disappear eventually, but senator dick durban says something needs to be done now. the senate minority whip will be our guest ahead on "morning joe." as we go to break, we've been celebrating black history month all month long and now we're revealing never before seen footage from my 2007 interview with michelle obama before she became the first lady of the united states. we talked about race, discrimination, and the power to change people's perspectives. you can see it radio you now at knowyourvalue.com. >> i think for the black community, we have to shake off our fear because change doesn't happen without risk taking. you know, rosa parks wasn't supposed to sit on that bus. martin luther king wasn't supposed to speak out. i mean, we have a whole history of people who have taken risks far greater than anything that we're doing. this is nothing compared to the history that we come from. so our view we're doing exactly what we were told to do by our leaders, by our elders, that you get the best education you can get, that you work hard, that you bring that education back and then you give back and that you push. you push the next generation to be better. at today's best western, stay two nights and get a free night for your next stay. one night, two nights, free night. book now at bestwestern.com. ok so, magnificent mile for me... i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. until i realized something was missing... me. you ok, sis? 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>> well, it's sort of a -- this is a work in progress, obviously. last night, california congressman john garamendi said the patient is now in serious condition. this as officials are now bracing for a larger outbreak in northern california yesterday. california governor gavin newsom said 33 people have tested positive for the virus and 8400 californians are now being monitored. so far, there have been 59 confirmed cases in the u.s. according to the world health organization. the dow and stock markets plunged. the poorly performing markets come in stark contrast to their success earlier this month. the dow had closed on a record high on february 12th and it only took the s&p 500 six days to fall from an all-time high to correction levels marking the fastest drop of that magnitude. the effects of coronaviruses are already wide ranging as major business and events take take precautionary measures. so far, the walt disney company has closed tokyo disney land until mid march. bts canceled several concert tour dates in south korea. tech giant facebook and microsoft along with epic games have pulled out of a game developer's conference in california next month. and korean air says it will not allow passengers with a fever to fly in the u.s. >> so willie, just a couple of things here that -- a lot to talk about today. we're not going to key in on a few small things and nitpick. it does seem, though, so concerning how ill prepared we are for this. in the early stages, especially. you look at the patients, the infected patients that were allowed to fly back to the united states despite the fact health officials didn't want them to. apparently, and we can ask jonathan about this. apparently the president overrode that. then you had infected patients with other passengers who were not infected in the same airplane. like i said, put up some plastic. the air circulates all over the place. >> oh, my goodness. and it travels fast between people. >> a patient. and then, of course, this california patient who was infected but the cdc did not allow them to take the test. we heard yesterday 8400 people in california may be infected, but they only have a handful of kits to test. they were saying americans coming home from china weren't properly protected, that they didn't have the gear they needed. so the president said this will disappear, to use his words. this clearly isn't disappearing. >> right. he said it will go away as the weather warms up. he targeted april. there is no science behind that date. i was with him on a trip to india earlier this week and this was something that even among parnthsry there, he was concerned with the effects of the virus and its impact on the markets. there have to be people around. and if you're looking at that set, gene rayburn will be coming in in a few minutes with that bright red. >> i think you giegs look great. >> is there somebody in there that can tell the president, we understand he's trying to. >> the number one thing you need to do is to be consistent and disciplined with your messaging. you've taken credit for every possible market increase. he has made that central to his re-election bid. peemt are mobilizing recognizing how important this is. there is a sense they may have waited too long. and also the president himself wanted to be part of that news korns two days ago and he is -- he is not only scatter showed presentation, but it's clearly not masterful handling of the facts of the disease has only rattled people further. and we saw the impact on the markets and now the administration is trying to put a sober face on this. so far, it hasn't worked. up next, south carolina votes tomorrow and what happens there has major implications for what happens next. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. as a marine, i flew 89 combat missions in iraq and afghanistan. as a national security advisor, i worked to keep our country safe. i'm amy mcgrath. now i'm running for senate in kentucky against mitch mcconnell. i can win, but i need your help. with your contribution, we can finally remove mitch mcconnell from office and start repairing the damage he's done to our country. i approved this message... because this is gonna take all of us. i need all the breaks as athat i can get.or, at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? 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steyer was polling really well in nevada too and on caucus day, a lot of that support disappeared. ske real is he real or is he a paper tiger? we'll see. coming up on "morning joe," there's the mike bloomberg from the debate stage and the mike bloomberg from the one-on-one interview. why does the former mayor struggle under the spotlight when he is perfectly capable of fielding tough questions in other settings? casesy hunt caught up with the presidential candidate yesterday. - [spokeswoman] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or coughs, or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. ♪ nothing is everything hi.aria ramirez? 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>> no. he is not prepared for a crisis like this. quite the contrary. he filed the pandemic specialists two years ago. he's defunded or underfunded or reduced the funding for centers for disease control. he's had 1600 scientists leave the government in the first two years of his office. you don't know exactly what is going to happen, but you have to have trained people who have practiced working together and established trust in each other and know where to go so that you can have a team who can, at the last minute, adjust the solutions to whatever arises. >> do you think president obama did a better job handling ebola than what president trump has done so far? >> i don't know how to answer that. president obama had in place teams like i just described. so he was much better prepared. sometimes a lot of the stuff is luck. it either hits and it doesn't, you go left and you should have gone right. you go left by accident and that was the right ways to go. but i think obama had a greater understanding that you can't do everything by yourself. the way i joke about it is i tell sei spell team t-e-a-m. trump's definition is just with the letter "i." you saw that when they took out the iranian general. there wasn't a state debate to go to to ask for advice because he fired almost all the experts on the middle east and the other places. >> let's talk about bernie sanders. the moderate late in this vote is potentially splintering. did you spend $400 million just to hand bernie sanders if nomination? >> i don't know why you think -- look, bernie sanders has been running for years. there's four elections that i didn't participate in. i had no say in bernie sanders. he's built a group of people that follow him and -- >> but don't you see yourself splintering the other support? >> well, i believe that if bernie sandsers gets the nomination, he will lose to donald trump. he will make sure that the senate stays in republican hands. he will flip the house back to the republicans. and even down balance yotd he's going to hurt the democrats. so you have have a lot of gerrymand gerrymandering in states which will hurt the country for a long time. but worse, at the federal level, you will have a whole bunch of judges, probably even supreme court justices that the republicans will appoint and those judicial decisions that come out of that will be devastating for this country for decades. >> would you vote for bernie sanders over donald trump? >> well, i've criticized the party loyalty where they say you have to vote for the candidate. everybody gets on board, of course, i'll vote for him and they don't really mean it. i think donald trump got elected because of that kind of loyalty to the party. a lot of people in the party didn't like him. but in this case, the alternative to the democratic candidates, even bernie sanders, is so bad i've said that i will vote for the democratic candidate even if it's bernie sanders. >> it sounds like you might have to hold your nose and do it. >> it turns out -- well, i might have to vote for him, but the other day his staff for whatever reason said we don't want bloomberg's help so i guess i'm off the hook there. >> your campaign manager alluded that you've considered name ago running matd running mate. >> i think every campaign always talk bes that. so far, nobody has done it, i think, in history. it always starts out and it sounds good and then you decide -- >> ted cruz tried it in 2016. >> that is fair. >> who have you talked to about this possibility? >> why would i tell you? >> because i'm asking. >> i know why you want to know. >> would you consider kamala harris, for example? >> i would consider everybody. kamala is -- i don't know her all that well, but the little bit i've talked to her and watched her, she's a very competent woman and done a good job in california. not everybody agrees with that. so you have a tough on crime kind of reputation. but i haven't looked at her resume all that carefully because it's too early to do that. >> stacey abrahams? >>. >> she's very competent. certainly one of for her whole initiative to get out the vote, register people. >> you dismissed your debate performance. the first one was widely penned, the second one less so as saying this is something these guys have had a lot of practice doing. aren't democratic voters looking for someone who can stand up to donald trump on the debate stage? >> no. they're looking for somebody who can run the company and somebody who can beat donald trump. and the debate is just one thing. we're not looking for a debater in chief. just because you're a good college debater doesn't mean you can run the country. this is insanity. and what i found so difficult in the first debate was i got out there and they're all yelling at each other and nobody is listening to each other and they're talking over each other. and in the second debate, sanders and warren gave the same answer to every single question no matter what the question was. they've said the same thing. why does that help the public make a decision as to who is going to beat donald trump and who is going to be able to run the country. do you want a debater or a manager who has been there and done that? i think it would be hard pressed to find many people who lived in new york city during my 12 years in office who would tell you it was the best job any mayor than ever done. i'll rest on my laurels. i know how to do the job. i've been train to go be president since let's say 9/11 when i took office. you could argue even before then because i was a manager in the private secretarieser. and in terms of beating donald trump, i've beaten him on coal, i've beaten him on guns, on a whole bunch of these things and i know how to get head to head with donald trump. we both come from new york city. you know, i think i'm tougher than him and a lot more knowledgeable. he's a real estate promoter. nothing wrong with that, but he's never managed anything and it shows and it's dangerous. >> you've said you're going on release the three women from nondisclosure agreements. >> yes. whether they want to say anything, i have no idea. >> do you regret anything about what you did with those women? >> well, i shouldn't have said -- all they've alleged is that i said things that left them uncomfortable. >> and do you regret that? yeah. i wish i hadn't said it. thank you very much. but everybody -- i wish a lot of little things i've done in life that i wish i hadn't done. i'm sorry i did it. i apologize. and also, i think the "me too" movement has exposed a lot of things that we've been doing for a long time, nobody focused on it, and then now we do. and i think they provided a real service to this country. and hopefully we will all change and not go back to when people stopped focussing on those things. >> do you think they will speak out? the women that -- >> i have no idea. >> do you hope that they will? >> it's totally up to them. they -- you know, there is -- the only thing they alleged -- they never alleged i did anything in touching or anything else. it was just that i said some things that left them uncomfortable and i just -- you know, i just don't know. >> if you're elected, do you commit to only serving two terms as president of the united states? >> i will not try to change the constitution. that's correct, yes. keep in mind, it was my city council that did it. i just signed the bill. >> mayor mike bloomberg, thank you very much for your time. >> oh, my gosh. such a good interview. >> great interview. a lot of people were talking about how mike bloomberg lost several steps, he looked confuse dollars, dazed out there on the debate stage. anybody that thought that and then just watched that interview actually saw that bloomberg is still at the top of his game. and you do -- you do wonder where that was during the debate. i thought it was very telling that he said, hey, this isn't a -- this isn't a contest to find the best college debater. this is who can run the country. i've got to say it was without a doubt the most effective we've seen bloomberg this entire campaign. >> you know, that was a little bit of a jab at elizabeth warren, the college debater line. and when i talked to him, it was very clear that he simply felt that the way these debates have played out is in some ways worthy of an eye roll. that was sort of his attitude toward it. and i agree with you on the trail, he seemed, you know, very sharp, very much focused on the mission at hand. the campaign that he's built -- i know we've talked a little bit about this. it is incredibly professional. this is not just a situation where they are throwing $400 million up on television and hoping something sticks. they have hired, you know, the best in politics. they have invested in the kinds of things that have won in the past. now, the question is -- i mean, their numbers took a real hit after that performance. they will say privately they think that is turning around. my real question here is still the fact that he seems to be splintering the vote away from particularly joe biden. biden has struggled in the resource debate. he hardly has any money up in the air on super tuesday states. he does have name recognition. what is going to happen, does that simply clear the way for bernie sanders? that's why i asked him the question the way i did. is he ultimately spending all this money to make bernie sanders the nominee. but that commitment to stay in until the end, he's got the money to back that up. we could be in for a really nasty, drawn out fight here. >> wow. thank you. coming up, it's been down right ugly on wall street for the past few days. we'll go live to cnbc for an update on what to expect today as the threat of coronavirus continues to spook the markets. 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>> very seriously. we've had these briefings with tony of nih and the cdc. alex ces a r. and they have said we shouldn't be pessimistic, but we have to be realistic. when japan shuts down its public schools for a month, it's fair warning that many leaders across the world are taking this serious think and what may be an unpopular but important decision. i hope vice president pence is a good leader here. being a senator did not equal me on public health. the question is whether he'll surround himself with the best and brightest, that he'll rely on science as opposed to politics. and that he'll have the humility to say the things that may be momentarily unpopular, but necessary. >> that's clearly and explicitly this morning from the chief of staff is to down play this, that this is a media story. >> it's not a media story. it's much more than that. it is a serious public health concern. i would say at this point it literally is going to affects for many months to come. >> right. >> i hope it diminishes quickly and sars did in the past, but the experts i've spoken to said it's way too early to predict that. and from what we're hearing so far from the experts that we bring to the table is it's inevitable. it is going to be here. we're going to have communities dealing with the word and the issue of coronavirus. and i worry about panic, as well. not only four our economy, but for other segments of our society. how, then, does this white house maintain its credibility when it's known for sort of playing with the truth? >> i say to the vice president, bring in the best and brightest in public health. defer to them in science. i think that is how we'll have the american people feel assured that we're moving in the right direction. what can congress do? the president made a temporary or a short-term request of around 2 billion. we've said from the start, mr. president, it will take more. so i think you'll see next week the house of representatives following in the senate a very substantial investment. and we don't want any game playing. no one does on either side. we don't want this money to be put into an account and taken out for something else which we've seen happen over and over again. let's make sure that we put the money in for the purpose of public health and the threat that we faced. >> and jonathan lamere has a question. >> shifting gears somewhat, the south carolina primary looms tomorrow and super tuesday is a couple of days away. i want to get your sense of the state of the play right now. do you feel that -- you know, is this narrowing down to two or three candidates, bernie sanders, joe biden, perhaps, representing the liberal and moderate wings and what is your take on mike bloomberg and his billions being involved in this race? >> this is a critical state for joe biden. there is no question. he's built it up and others have, too, that this is where he needs to make his stand and establish his credibility moving forward. in terms of bernie sanders, he's off to a strong start in three states and he has super tuesday to prove that he can take this message across the united states. as far as mike bloomberg is concerned, a disastrous debate in las vegas. and i think he's trying to find his footing at this point to move forward. you can't dismiss mayor pete who did very well in some of the early states. i still think it's a very fluid situation. and from my point of view as a democrat who wants to see a new president, i'll just say this to my party colleagues and friends. we need both progressives and moderates to win. we can't do it exclusively with one or the other. we've got to be big enough to embrace difference of opinion on some of these critical issues, realizing our underlying values are solid and values we have in common. >> one of the criticisms of bernie sanders, as you know, from a sitting united states senator, some running for president and some not, is his agenda will never pass through the senate. some of these proposals are ambitious but perhaps not realistic. do you agree with that, that medicare for all will never pass through the senate? >> i don't want to say it will never pass, but i'll tell you what my life experience is with the affordable care act. when harry reed got exactly 60 votes in the senate and one of our senators got a morning talk show on sunday and said i will never vote for the public option, it took it right off the table. harry called me at home and said we're gone with the public option. it ended that quickly. it's the reality of needing 60 votes and having only 49 senators for it. it's a perilous situation when it comes to the house and the senate. tell us about the america's security act. >> yes. i talked to my colleagues both sides of the aisle. what is our dependance on foreign countries for medicines, medical devices and medical supplies? we now know when it comes to china -- and india, i might add, the, that there is a substantial dependance. this morning, there is one drug still to be announced that they say is in short supply or unavailable in the united states. we need to ask that question on the front end before there is a medical crisis or before there is a terrorist attack. do we have a stockpile, do we have a domestic supplier for things that are absolutely essential. >> so what is the real world impact of so much of our medical equipment being made overseas? what is a scenario you can see if you don't get this legislation through where it becomes a problem for the u.s.? >> well, it's a situation where we can't take advantage for the best new technology or the medications that we know can cure illness. that is a desperate situation we should try to avoid. i spoke to a businessman last night and he reminded me, he said, even though china is the major supplier of of ingredients for many medicines, it is also the major supplier of an ingredient for cosmetics and many other things that we just take for granted. so it will ripple through if it gets much worse, but we start with medicine, medical devices. >> and what is your take on the whistle-blowerer complaint on how federal health care workers handled quarantined people without the proper training and safety equipment? >> it's a serious alleged. we're going to have public health workers risking their lives in the midst of this situation. and we want to make sure they know and we know the best and safest approach. a whistle-blower only speaks up when the ordinary channels are not only to make changes. and i know the president is not very happy with the notion of a whistle-blower. but i think it's an important part. we look at the charges seriously. not assume they're true or untrue, but look at them seriously. >> senator dick durbin, thank you for being on the show this morning. up next, mick mulvaney is at cpac right now where he is reportedly down playing the threat of the coronavirus while still acknowledging looming disruptions saying, are you going to see some school shutdown? 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mr. president, i've got bad news for you and the hacks that are actually trying to brush aside this global health crisis. people care a hell of a lot more about their children and about their parents than they care about your political future. and -- >> this could be bad. >> again, for mick mulvaney to say that at cpac, what a clown. >> so flippantly said a few schools might be closed. >> what amazing work was done a couple weeks ago, i don't know, not because we're doing impeachment, i think i don't know because they weren't doing it. it was donald trump based on reporting that pressured even when the cdc was saying these people should not return home to the united states, the white house pushed to have them returned from the united states. sick people were put on the plane with healthy people. then they were met by administration officials that didn't have the protective gear that would allow it to spread more. it has been one mistake after another. forget three or four weeks ago, just this week. they keep making unforced errors. >> the president is trying to take credit for closing flights from china. that was seen as too little too late. he was the one that authorized return of the plane with sick passengers on it. >> when the cdc was saying don't let them come back. >> the white house and cdc have been on opposite pages on the whole matter since it began. >> what does cdc stand for? >> centers for disease control. >> centers for disease control. so the center for disease control tells the president of the united states not to allow these people to come back to the united states until they're healthy, and the president overrides the center for disease control. now mick mulvaney is a clown, talking about impeachment was somehow getting in the way of the president responding. again, the sheer stupidity. actually, in this case, stupidity can kill. >> and the president was slow to speak out, didn't want to upset xi jinping in trade talks. he says, for them to try to take a pandemic, and hope it comes here and kills millions of people so they can end donald trump's streak of winning is a new level of sickness. said that in the last few minutes. >> what a thing for don jr. to say. >> so the hypocrisy from republicans how they dealt with president obama with disease outbreaks what they accuse democrats of doing. >> this is why what mick mulvaney is ridiculous to me. i don't remember him being so concerned about the media and public optics when he was at the oversight committee having hearings during the ebola, on day one of ron's tenure, oversight committee tried to get him to be a witness on the first day of the job. they weren't concerned about public welfare, didn't have a problem with having a hearing, trying to derail what president obama was doing, manage the crisis to haul people up there to score political points. what he is referencing is what he was part of when they were in control of congress during the last epidemic that we faced. it is the most blatant hypocrisy as mismanagement that's unfolding now is endangering people's lives, putting widespread people at risk, they're the ones trying to make it other people's fault. same thing we have seen time and again. no different than when the president took a sharpie, tried to redraw the united states during the hurricane aftermath. they can't get anything from a sharpie right to disease control right. they were the ones screaming bloody murder that president obama had appointed a, quote, political operative to oversee ebola. they seem to be fine with appointing vice president pence to head up this crisis. >> and again, when they talk this way, they only spook markets even more. really quickly in closing moments, let's talk about south carolina quickly. >> karine? >> what do we expect in south carolina? >> looks like joe biden is headed for a much needed win in south carolina. i think the two questions that i have as we wait the next 24 to 36 hours to see what happens is how big is that win that biden has because this is about delegates gained, it is about states but what is the margin. if he gets in double digits, that's a great shot in the arm. that goes really well for him going into super tuesday states and we'll see what happens then. the other thing i am looking for too is how well does bernie sanders do with black voters? as we know in 2016 he got 14% of the vote in south carolina. does he do better, does he stay the same? that's going to matter. one last thing i want to say, jim clyburn's endorsement, i lived in south carolina in 2007 for the presidential there, that's a huge, huge shot in the arm for joe biden. he has an operation and he and his people are loyal to him, those activists will turn out. >> it was passionate. thank you very much. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up coverage right now. >> thanks so much, mika, thanks, joe. hi there, i am stephanie ruhle. we begin with breaking news on wall street where it seems like there's no end to the gut wrenching collapse in the markets. as we look ahead to opening bell, stock futures are plunging again. remember, we were at record highs just 16 days ago. but as the spread of the coronavirus picked up speed, inve

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