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MSNBCW Morning Joe February 13, 2019

Meeting and now another senior aide an manafort is heading back to court and Robert Muellers office is asking questions about what they might have exchanged. Good morning. Welcome to morning joe. Its wednesday, february 13th. You guys know what tomorrow is. Along with joe, willie and me, we have by the time, mike, i cant you know, every year, tomorrow is a special day for me. No. This year this year, tomorrow is going to be, i think, more special than ever, what happens tomorrow on february the 14th. No, it will be. No. No, its so special because, mike, my god catching. In fort myers, red sox are showing up. How exciting. I may even take my loved one, little jack over there, to watch chris sail throw. Fast catch. It could be very exciting tomorrow. Joe, im going out and buying a new catchers mitt tomorrow in anticipation. Its what tomorrow is all about. Exactly. Mike barnicle is here. Professor at Princeton University is here and im sure you know what tomorrow is. And former state department ellis jordan, and reporter for the Washington Post is with us. Well get to that report in just a moment. First, me want wall. President trump tweeted his approval of the deal, but while its short of the 5. 7 billion hes asked for he tried to frame it as a win. He tweeted, just given the concepts of the border deal by hard working Richard Shelby and all aspects this hooked to other sources. We will be getting almost 23 billion for Border Security. Regardless of wall money, its being built as we speak. Plus, i want to thank all republicans for the work you have done with dealing with the radical left on Border Security. Not an easy task, but the wall is being built and will be a great achievement and contributor toward life and safety within our country. A white house official told nbc news earlier tuesday, even if trump signs off on the agreement to keep the government open, other options were on the table to build a more substantial barrier. Yesterday, Senate Majority leader, Mitch Mcconnell and Judiciary Committee leader Lindsey Graham, they will fund the gap for building the wall trump long said mexico would pay for and would do that by using his president ial powers. I hope he signs the bill, and, second, i think he ought to feel free to use whatever tools he can legally use to enhance his effort to secure the border. As to the money for the barrier, if he can use steel barriers like hes been talking about, i would say thats overall a pretty good deal and make up the difference between 1. 375 and 5. 7 through executive action. As we know, willie geist, if you read your constitution, all funding begins with the legislative branch and executive branch when the executive branch cant get the legislative branch to agree. What Lindsey Graham just said, unconstitutional. What Mitch Mcconnell is suggesting, unconstitutional. It doesnt make a lot of sense. If donald trump could have gotten 23 billion for his wall, why did he shut down the government as long as he shut down the government and watch his Approval Ratings sinks, 6, 7, 8, 9 points. He cant get the 23 billion but if he tries to, that will be overturned by the supreme court. We should be happy the government is going to stay open and theyre looking for a fig leaf. I would be looking for the person who gave me the advice to not take the 20 billion from Congress Last year, when they were willing to give the president of the United States 20 billion when he was holding his strongest hand and they said, no, dont take that money. Because of that person in the white house, whoever it is, hes gone from getting 21, 22, 23 billion for Border Security to 1. 3 billion for Border Security. The art of the steal from democrats. They have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. Yeah. The art of the deal having ann coulter tell you not to take the deal and then take less money for the wall, forget the 5. 7 billion. Now, ann coulter is criticizing the president again. Trump talks a good game on the border wall but it is increasingly clear hes afraid to fight for it. Call this his yellow new deal. Well see if the president responds this time to conservative criticism the way he did in december. Donald trump is so sensitive to any criticism from his brain trust of cable news advisors, it wouldnt be thinkable for donald trump to say, i dont know, this isnt good enough and upend at the last minute, just because he is solely driven by what people are saying about him in any given moment. He said two nights ago it was a garbage compromise, his moneyline. Garbage compromise. And Mike Barnicle, chances are the president can get away with this. We saw the other night all those people in el paso, the people applauding and jumping to their feet, were already building the wall. Go check it out. Were living in an alternate reality anyway. We had the president lying to his supporters saying he is building the wall when no building has begun. Hell take this and keep lying, they will keep supporting him. What will it matter . The sad and dangerous thing i truly believe donald trump thinks hes building a wall, when in fact hes not. The other sad aspect as you pointed out, you cant help thinking to yourself as President Trump sits around thinking where he can get this extra money, can he get this extra money, surrounded by his advisors, you have flashbacks in your mind, think of other past president s sitting around the table with their advisors, jfk, during the cuban missile crisis, harry truman, george bush, stuff like that. Here we have Steven Miller and assorted other people, Jared Kushner, sitting around, advising the president of the United States, and they are wrong at every single turn. The least experienced group of white house hands in the history of the white house, no doubt about it. You see it everyday with the bad decisions being made. Elyse, i have a question for you. You come from my part of the country, my ideology, youre servant libertarian. Those people in the krowts youre conservative libertarian. Those people in the crowds, when they hear donald trump saying hes building a law, go to the rio grand and check it out. Do they know hes lying to them. You know theyre not that stupid. They have to know no wall is being built when he keeps telling them hes building the wall. By the time, if hes building the wall, why are they Holding Signs that say build that wall . Do they know hes a liar but they dont care, its just a great show. Hes not you know the lefty democrats or lefty members of the press. Joe, i think you nail it when you say, its a great show. Thats what most Trump Supporters are showing up to watch the show. Theyre there taking it in and listening. Certainly, there are some people there who believe what donald trump is saying. Over the past two years, doing research with ashcroft in America Project and focus groups and so many different segments of the electorate, it is surprising to me you hear from donald Trump Supporters, they know hes not going to build the wall and like hes trying and fighting. They have no expectation the wall will happen or that its necessary but wanted to see a stronger stance. Its also the branding exercise. Remember the steaks butchered in palm beach or the water, or anything he says is the best products, its a lie, just like the steaks werent trump steaks and the worry is this is leading americans down a path. Go ahead. Again, 38, 39 of Americans Still support him when they know he is lying. They think the steaks are real. Eddie, is it symbolic of something much bigger . Is that wall and the fact hes fighting for a wall and saying he is building a wall and they know he is lying, is that him just saying in a veiled way what he said outright on twitter, which is we got to keep those people from latin america, we have to keep those brown people out of america. Hatred. When i say build that wall, im not building a wall, but you know what i ral mean. Right, joe, i think youre absolutely right in this regard. Its a monument to hatred and fear and changing demographics of the country. It has little to do with the question of safety and little to do with the question of american jobs. Its predicated on a lie as you said over and over again. Its bizarre and spending money on something not true and democrats are negotiating about something thats not true. Its bizarre. Its bizarre at this moment. Eddie, you say democrats are negotiating on this. They will spend the 1. 3 billion fixing up parts of the fence are there that need repair. You got to say, donald trump starts at 20 billion, theyre going to give him 20 billion last year and then wants 5. 7. Nancy pelosi says, ill give you 1. 6, and the deal, nancy is giving him 1. 3. Need pretty good negotiating by the democrats. It is. Its the equivalent of a child throwing temper tantrum, theyre in toys r us and they want the big toy and we give them the little car. Were still rewarding a temper tantrum. No. We have a child throwing a temper tantrum and the parent says, you can do that if you want to but im going to the car, you will have a long walk home if you dont follow me, sonny boy. Thats what nancy pelosi did to trump. There is 1. 3 billion in repairs they can make to the structure on the border. He got hammered by democratic negotiations. Hes talking about reprogramming authority, reprogramming money from certain departments and moving it to others. He said, i will move things around and faking budget money from quote far less important areas to make up the shortfall of the wall funding. What does that mean . What are those areas . What does it mean far less important. It all seems racist, sorry. President trump called on congresswoman omar to resign over antisemitic tweets. Under pressure from party leadership, she apologized about the money to support israel. She discussed her remarks after yesterdays Cabinet Meeting after First Talking about immigration. He discussed her remarks. One thing i might want to say is antisemitism has no place in the United States congress. Congresswoman omar, it is terrible what she said, and i think she should either resign from congress or she should certainly resign from the House Foreign Affairs committee. What she said is so deepseated in her heart that her lame apology, thats what it was, it was lame, and she didnt mean a word of it, was just not appropriate. Yeah. Deepseated. That old sort of racist belief jews are just about money. You hear people talking at times about jews and money, whether in politics or whether in business, people say jews are theyre great negotiations. Obviously, mika, thats something from what the president just said there, thats something donald trump would never fall victim to himself, right . Never never never. I want to point out the tweet was horrible. You want to look at her history of comments, if there are others, that are similar and try to understand where this came from, it wasnt good. The hypocrisy is easy to point out. The president was criticized in 2016 during the campaign for jewish stereotypes about money. Here is between 15. Im in a different position than the other candidates, im the one candidate i dont want your money. I want your support but i dont want your money. I dont want your money and you will probably not support me. You want to give money. Trump doesnt want money. Im a negotiator, like you folks, we dont build gas stations in for 43 million. How many can do it for less. Is there anybody that doesnt renegotiate deals in this room . This room renegotiates deals. Perhaps more than any room ive ever spoken to. Maybe more. One jewish money joke after another jewish money joke after another jewish money joke. He actually lapped the congresswoman about five times there. Yeah. Just wondering, is Kevin Mccarthy going to call for his resignation . I heard Kevin Mccarthy criticize that. Do we have the star of david picture . When that went up, they were pedaling clear ugly antisemitism, i didnt hear Kevin Mccarthy or Mitch Mcconnell call for donald trump to step down. Mika, the hypocrisy is so extraordinarily thick here. That doesnt deny what happened and democrats should talk about it and deal with it. Trumps infamous remarks about good people being among the White Supremacists at that deadly rally in charlottesville in 2017, remember that . Not to mention his ban on muslims, his comments about shole countries is incredible. And allowing for breeding an infestation of crime. Eugene scott, you have a new piece out in the Washington Post entitled ilhan omar and steve king reacted to criticism differently, how that matters. We know when democratic leadership including house speaker, nancy pelosi called on representative omar to apologize, the representative did and did so relatively immediately. When minority leader mccarthy caught on, steve king, who has a history of making comments sympathetic to White Nationalists apologize, not only did he not apologize, he doubled down and recently led a fight to get back on his committees. Hes taking that cue, one could argue from the president himself who has no history of apologizing, instead critiquing how other people apologizing. What he is aware of the most is what his political opponents say are problematic, not he and his own. He is doing that because the base will not hold him accountable in ways the Democratic Party will hold people like representative omar and nancy pelosi accountable. They did, willie. The democrats did hold the congresswoman accountable. Obviously, if she makes another antisemitic statement, i would be shocked if she werent kicked off the Foreign Affairs committee. I will say you listen to all the racist things donald trump has said and stereotypes donald trump was pedaling, jewish stereotypes, and then mika talked about donald trump saying that our immigration policies lead to breeding and infestation. There are those that say you should never compare anything any american politician does to what fascists would do or what nazis did. The propaganda, when you Start Talking about breeding, races breeding, you Start Talking about the infestation of people of nonwhite people, if you dont want me to say thats something that the third reich pedalled in, i wont say it, just go read a book because thats exactly what they said about jews. The president was talking in april, last april about the sanctuary laws in california. Eddie, obviously, President Trump is not the right vessel to come down against religious discrimination. Lets go to the muslim ban, he wanted the entire ban for this country based on the god they worshiped. Did nancy pelosi not have to reckon what was imexplicit with congresswoman omars tweet . Explicit, i mean. I want to take serious the reaction of the Jewish Community to representative omars claims her tweet. And stereotypes about jews animate our society and can be belched up at any moment among any of us. In order to take seriously that communitys reaction we have to take seriously her apology so there is space to grow. She said she learned from her jewish colleagues and friends and constituencies, shes going to grow and we have to take her apology serious if were going to grow. The second thing that is separate, every israeli policy, netanyahu doesnt mean it will open up space. The third thing, this goes to donald trump, were forgetting what happened in pittsburgh in that synagogue and were invoking george soros and the jewi jewish cabal funding the caravan. Were forgetting trump trades in the language of global lists out of a White Nationalist that controls the country. From globalists to soros, to what we just saw, this mans lifeblood comes out flows from hatred and fear. This is his political lifeblood. So the idea he is going to stand in moral judgment of anyone smacks of not only hypocrisy but absolutely ludicrous. When donald trump cannot condemn david duke or acts like he doesnt know who he is. Remember the tiki marches in charlottesville, jews will not replace us. Thats what they said. The idea he can make this claim and Kevin Mccarthy can stand with, it just makes my blood boil. It shows how hypocritical this is. Let me say this, the fact they dont take the claims seriously is political fodder. Joe. Republicans have been attacking george soros for some time, conspiracy theorists, theres always an antisemitic smear to it. We just showed you a Kevin Mccarthy tweet attacking george soros about the time of the pittsburgh slaughter in the synagogue. Its an absolute game plan with the American Flag right next to it, attacking george soros. I will say, im glad to hear eddie talking about opening the space of dialogue around the issue. I agree with him. I saw an article last night from talent that says the congresswoman has used antisemitic tropes and that deserves condemnation. But she also voiced an exceedingly rare willingness to question her presumptions and put herself in jews shoes. She deserves dialogue and not denunciation, again, from a tablet, jewish news service. I agree with that, mika. I hope we can extend that beyond just a discussion about jewish issues, is

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