Former GOP representative Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezinski interview newsmakers, politicians and pundits about the issues of the day. Former GOP representative Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezinski interview newsmakers, politicians and pundits about the issues of the day. Disapprove. The numbers are shifting for the president . Talked about it for a long time. A bit of narrow casting. But this is about as narrow casting as it gets. Willie, all i can say for donald trump and republicans who are hoping, like a special election in ohio tonight, the republicans hoping that hes somehow going to get them over the finish line, even in strongly republican districts lie this ohio 12. They better hope that their small slice of the electorate comes out, because, i mean, donald trump is sacrificing just about every other group in america for this one group of white, noncollege educated voters that, again, just there just arent enough to get him over the top or to get his candidates over the top in a lot of elections. That gallup number is where
no doubt about that, but theyre victims of a con. They node a leeed a leader, a p who will do something about their lives, to improve their lives. Thats the tragedy. You know, gene, victims of a kind, a what ive never really understood for somebody in economic trouble. Somebody struggling to get their kids through school. Somebody whos struggling to keep a job, somebody whos struggling to get, you know, good, decent fair wages and the ability to take your kids to a doctor thats not an Emergency Room Visit at 11 00 at night. Not quite so i just dont understand why some of these people out in the crowds, theyre conned by a guy who talks about himself all the time. Lies about himself all the time, inflates what hes done all the time, and then, of course, on top of that, he has convinced a
lot of these people that their biggest problem their biggest problem is the media. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Were the enemy of the people. Thats their biggest if thats their biggest problem, thats thats thats interesting. Yeah. And, look, he sunshi as mike. Its a con. Its been an effective con. The other thing he does, before these audiences, is make ridiculous promises that are just that will never be kept. You know, hes bringing back the steel industry. Theyre opening eight new clients thats simply not true. Its not happening. Yet he says it, and people applaud, and this and that, and hes very skillful at making these, drawing these cultural and racial lines. And essentially putting people in a position of being with him
or with ms13 basically. Its a Demagogues Toolkit that he uses and he uses it effectively. And elise jordan, to an extent he chips away at his own credibility when he has policies like the separation policy. He talks about the wall. He talks about immigration and the most, in the most, quite frankly, degrading way to people, but some of that is appreciated by the base for whatever reasons. Having said that, isnt it fair to say the policy of taking children away from their families has definitely hurt the president . Nobody likes that. I cant imagine that would poll well. Well, and mika, especially women that ive spoken with who are Trump Supporters dont support of child separation policy, even if they support donald trump. John kasich himself pointed out
suburban women will be really key in this 12th District and in picking who the next congressman is going to be. So i really am curious what suburban the suburban women of columbus, ohio, are going to decide to do today, in light of donald trump focusing more on any distraction that he can throw at the wall to try to turn people away from the real issues that are affecting men and women in this country. Namely, the families and children separated by his inhumane policy, but also health care, and looking at what has donald trump done to actually improve health care for men and women of the 12th District. Jake sherman, interesting when lamb won his shock, surprise election several months ago, we were talking about the suburbs of pittsburgh. Now were talking an another midwestern town. The suburbs of columbus, ohio, and if you look at one area
where republicans have been hurt the most. Where Donald Trumps lost the most support, the reason why hes sitting at 39, 40, 41 depending whether you believe gallup or isnt it, when it comes to suburban voters, used to be the absolute bedrock of any republican president ial campaign . Yeah. Its a huge problem and the majority will be won and lost in the suburbs. No question about that. I think the important thing to point out here, and what we need to wrap our head around is if this district is competitive, and our plus seven district, the district john kasich and pat tiberi, the last two that won by a dozen points or ten points every single time, if this is competitive, then there are 80 seats in america that are competitive just like this. 80 republican seats in that kind
of range that could be on the table come november. So democrats are seeing extremely rapidly their political map expand to a point where they could we dont know. Just talking based on available information we could see a massive amount of seats flip, if a district like this is competitive. There are suburbs obviously all over the country that are less republican than this that could go. So were seeing it almost doesnt even matter who wins tonight, because its competitive, and that shows a really huge change in the political fortunes of the democratic and Republican Party. Yeah. And, jake, it just shouldnt sorry about that, willie. Jake, it just shouldnt be competitive. Right . I mean, this is a race that republicans expected to easily lock up all along, and any reports of republicans doing
better in congressional ballot tests that we were hearing several weeks back, it seems so much of that has changed, and is there that Sinking Realization on the hill among republicans that this actually is going to, despite what donald trump says about a red wave, that things are getting worse by the day for republicans . Yes. If you talk to republicans in the leadership on capitol hill they recognize that this is the cleanest test of their political fortunes at the moment. The interesting thing, this hasnt gotten a ton of ink, but in private polling the president s actually right side up in this district, not under water in approval, but the republican brand and troy balderson, the candidate, are so damaged, that it is in play, and the republican policies that Danny Oconnor has tried to and has successfully latched on to have put this district in play, and, yeah, there is a realization this is getting bad. Getting worse than expected, and the ballot test that democrats
are up, you know, anywhere between 7 and 10 points is actually up and headed for a massive wave in november. Willie, again, donald trump, there seems to be an irrational fear of donald trump because he shocked everybody. Nobody expected he was going to win and everybody saying, oh, my god. Wait. Hes going to pull a rabbit out of his hat, hed going to but again, there are political realities we have to look at that for, you go back, you know, 50 years. If a president s in the low 40s in approval ratings, add on the ballot test, democrats ahead 7 to 10, 12 points, theres just no getting around the fact that if democrats get their voters out this is going to be a huge fall for them. And donald trump won that election by seven points and
theyve shrunk 10. 5 points against republicans, democrats have. Donald trump was there last week. Mike pence has been there campaigning for balderson. This is a test of Donald Trumps influence. Joe, point you to Something Else we found, unearthed writings by mike pence in the late 1990s recently brought to light. Pence argued, a president should be held to the highest moral standards and removed from office if not, citing then president bill clintons affair with a white house intern and public lies about it as an example. In one piece pence rote, if you and i fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employees and our friends. The president of the United States can incinerate the planet. Seriously. The very idea we ought to have at or less than the same moral standards placed on the standards we place on the executive a ludicrous and dangerous. Weve seen the president as the
repository of our highest hopes, ideals and values. To demand less is to do harm to the blood that bought us freedom. Referring to clinton again the president s repeated lies to the American People in this matter compound the case against him as they demonstrate his failure to protect the institution of the presidency as the Inspiring Supreme Symbol of all that is highest in our american ideals. Leaders affect the lines of families far beyond their own private life. Preach on, brother. A radio host when he wrote that in indiana. Wrote those, posted them to his website. If you superimpose those to 2018, they take on an entirely new meaning. He was a radio host then and now has fallen down to Vice President of the United States . Words to live by and restores your faith in the one endeer mores standard maybe dont creep on 15, 16, 17yearold girls backstage at the miss usa pageant. That who mike pence thinks has great enough moral standards to be in the white house these days, i guess. Or dont pay off porn stars, perhaps. Dont pay off porn stars. Also, elise, Franklin Graham. Read what Franklin Graham wrote during the clinton impeachment time. U just an selfrighteous and sickening given the current stand that hes in right now, but for mike pence, again, i keep wondering. When is mike pence going to speak out . You know, donald trump and mike pence and the Republican Party supported roy moore. Yeah. When all of those accusations were coming forward in that campaign. To go from where he went in 1999 to where he is right now, not that long later. Not that much later. A shocking, shocking turnaround. That now hes defending this guy. Others saying, well, its just between him and his wife and god. Its not what he was saying, t what Franklin Graham was saying or a lot of republicans defending donald trump were saying in 1999. An attitude ive heard recently justifying the current sins because of the past sins. Well, because he did it, its okay for him to do it now. We just dont care because he got away with it. Why not let our guy get away with it, too. That shows a very hollow core of your actual beliefs. Yeah. You know, also, mika, ive had people write me before. People that ive known in
conservative movements and also evangelicals saying, you should know, joe, christians, they ask for forgiveness. They ask for redemption. Ive always said, that the is the center, if you read the bible, understand the bible. The center of jesus teaching is weve all fallen short of the glory of god, and whats required . Whats required is that you ask forgiveness, that you beg forgiveness, you understand you are unworthy of gods grace. And that it is given to you only, only, as grace. And youve got donald trump who says, no. Ive never actually had to ask for forgiveness. Ive never had to pray for forgiveness. No. I cant really think of any reason why thats just not who i am, asking god for forgiveness. These evangelical not only
claim theyre evangelicals, they certainly Arent Evangelical certainly arent the evangelicals i grew up with at First Baptist church in chamblee or meridian, mississippi, or in pensacola, florida. Theyre giving this guy a complete free pass, and they can do that, but, please, Dont Wrap Jesus around it, because jesus got nothing to do with this. Mike pence totally lost who he is in this. Im not sure whats worth it to him, to not hold back from what he believes in, but he is allowing this to swallow him up. Also, from the way back machine, jake sherman, you post add clip on twitter jed yesterday of dan rather interviewing donald trump in 1999. Featuring his trip to california trying to build support among members of a reform party for a possibly president s bid. Here was their reaction to his
sales pitch, plus something trump said 19 years ago that he famously echoed during the 2016 campaign. Take a look. I was disappointed. Because i felt that he i thought he was very attacking of other members of the party, which i thought was very disrespectful. I think he came, you howard what he had to say and were exciting. Hes a con man and ought to go back to new york. Why . Hes coming out here trying to destroy our party. Thats the way i look at it. Reporter the way trump looks at it, hes at least better than everybody else in the race beginning with john mccain. Said he flew combat missions. Does that make you a hero . Im not sure. I dont know. Its not the first time he said it in the past few years. Its horrific to say and seems the publics relationship with
trump has really transformed as his presidency has become all the more serious on the world stage, but he said it so many years ago. Im glad my youtube phishing is good for something. Yeah. No. It is obviously fascinating and the president has, despite people urging him in his party, he has continued to throw shade at john mccain about his vote last year, about a year ago right now, against repealing the health care law. Something obviously, a definite thread, his disdain for john mccain going back to 1999 when he first thought about running for president. Willie, you know, this bears repeating. Donald trump dodged the draft. He got what . Four, five deferments for five. Bone spurs. Those little feet. Hard to carry around all that weight. So i guess. Hes got bone spurs but sitting there making fun of a man who
was flying very early in the war. Got shot down on combat missions. I know a lot of Great American heroes like bud day who did and a lot of other great, great men who did during the vietnam war, and you know, he carries those scars to this day, and, again, as Everybody Knows, but its got to be repeated again, the North Vietnamese were going to let john mccain leave and go home, because his father was an important man in the United States military and he refused. Couldnt go until the rest of his Band Of Brothers said, until they, he allowed all of them to go. And he didnt do it. He stayed there. He stayed behind. I hadnt seen that clip from 1999. I thought when we heard it on that stage three years ago during the president s campaign it was maybe something impulsive her came out in reaction to john
mccain, but apparently a deeply held belief hes had for 20 or so years from now. They are true and this is preposterous. Remember, he said that during the campaign, by confessioned you radios of politics, this guy is in trouble. Hell be done. The front page of the New York Post said he was finished, her survived that, then we knew his presidency would be different than all the others. If you use Donald Trumps own way of deducing these things, if getting captured doesnt make you a hero for some reason, then getting all of those deferments because of bone spurs makes you a little coward. Jake sherman, thank very much. Still ahead on morning joe from harleydavidson to amazon a new look how companies are handling public attacks by the president. Axios has an interesting new take on that. Plus, web giants team up to take down a purveyor of lies, infowars loses key platforms. Surely a Welcome Development for the families of sandy hook. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Nkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. Nkle cream neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. With the fastest Retinol Formula available. Its clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. One week . That definitely works rapid wrinkle repair®. And for dark spots, rapid tone repair. Neutrogena®. See whats possible. So lets promote our Summer Travel deal on choicehotels. Com like this. Surfs up. Earn a 50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. Or, badda book. Badda boom. Book now at choicehotels. Com
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really has caused that. In a big way. And think about it. Because im sure a lot of shareholders would like their ceos to be positive about it. If you look at all the billions of dollars they got in the tax cuts. All of the buybacks. Very good for a lot of businesses, very good for a lot of corporations, large corporations. Why wouldnt they talk about it. Like you said, then youve got that millennial workforce. Youve got a lot of people that are offended by some of the things that trump says, by some of the positions hes taken on race issues. It really could divide a workforce. In some ways, ceos have to see themselves as politicians. Because the game has changed in the last