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MSNBCW Morning Joe April 23, 2018

Political writer for the New York Times, nick confessorry and the president of the counsel on Foreign Relations and author of the book a world in disarray Richard Haass also with us. Pulitzer prize winning historian jon meacham. Meachum delivered one of the yueulogies at Barbara Bushs funeral on saturday. So many people this weekend talking about barbara bush and really agreeing with johns assessment that she really has been for such a long time as americas first lady. America said goodbye to barbara bush, jon meacham, this weekend. You were there and delivered a beautiful, beautiful word in her memory. Talk to us about the event. Talk to us about the extraordinary man barbara bush lived with so many years. And just talk about the woman he remembered. I was thinking this morning, this is the first week that george h. W. Bush has opened his life without barbara bush since 1981. He was a rock all day saturday. It was so interesting is it was a family funeral that happened to intersect with the American Family. And the life of the nation. And it felt very much like that inside st. Martins church in houston. As you know when youre around these president s and these public servants, all the stuff we talk about all the time falls away and youre reminded of the essential humanity of these people, these families, who, yes, they ask for the job, yes, they seek our votes, yes, they seek ultimate power and the worlds longest experiment and republicanism, but theyre also families. And theyre people who instinctively reach out respectfully and affectionately. And we overuse the phrase the end of an era, but every once in a while cliche is true because its true and this was one. It really was. Mika, there were wonderful moments throughout the weekend that we got to see from the outside. And the picture of the president s and the first ladies certainly there seemed to be something reassuring in that. You had a group of people that i know most of us have been critical of from time to time throughout our adult lives, but never once looking at that picture did we ever question whether everything they were doing, even if we disagreed with it, they were doing because they believed it was in the best interest of this country, the best interest in protecting our homeland, the best interest in preserving the constitution of the United States. That is obviously something that many of us do have concerns with, with whats going on in this white house. But it was maybe end of an era as far as george h. W. Bush and barbara bush and the world that they occupied in connecticut and texas and washington, d. C. But that picture it seems it really does speak a thousands words that what were going through is not the norm. And i expect that we will be seeing well, lets just say in coming years well find president s that i think most americans will be able to unify behind. Yeah. And the picture is reassuring but kind of hard to go from that picture to this but we will. After ten months of the president hounding foreign investigation and even jail for james comey, the Justice Department is looking into classification issues surrounding the memos of the former fbi director. At least two of the memos that comey gave to a friend outside of the government contained information that officials now consider classified. Of those two memos, comey himself redacted elements of one that he knew to be classified to protect secrets. He handed the documents over to his friend who shared the contents with a reporter. Although they were not classified at the time he shared them, parts were later declared confidential, which has prompted the doj and Inspector General to review the matter. President trump continued on twitter this weekend, if you can believe it, even during the funeral, james comeys memos are classified. I did not declassify them. They belong to our government. Therefor, he broke the law. But comey had the Legal Authority to determine what Bureau Information was classified and what wasnt. And there are no laws prohibiting conversations he had with trump in an unclassified manner. Also in his weekend tweets, the president used the comey memos as the basis to question the validity of the special counsels investigation. Late friday night he tweeted james comey illegally leaked classified documents to the press in order to generate a special counsel, therefore the special counsel was established based on an illegal act. Really does everybody know what that means . And later you know, i just enough. Really seriously, were not going to start the show with three of his emails that once again John Heilemann are so factually challenged that make up facts out of whole cloth and basically play into hes been very deliberate. Hes tried donald trump has tried to undermine the rule of law. He has trashed the fbi and the men and women who protect our country everyday. He has trashed the Justice Departme department. He has pressured the Justice Department to go after a list of people including Hillary Clinton which is so outrageous, which is such a Banana Republic move, which is something you expect from latin america in the 1970s. That were actually seeing it happen. Were hearing people talk about the investigation of mccabe for crimes and comey for crimes and for materials that werent even classified when he wrote them. Help us understand exactly whats going on here, john. Well, one would like to think, joe, that this is a chief political stunt. Its certainly that in part in what the president is trying to do at a time when he need to have enthusiasm among his base and where his base is partly because of actions of his own, partly because of actions of his party are enraged at the people you just mentioned. Theyre now enraged with Hillary Clinton and jim comey and much of the Law Enforcement bureaucracy, much of the Law Enforcement institution in the country at the federal level he is trying to feed them red meat. Nothing will come of this, hes on twitter and they get all worked up and thats great. Your comment about Banana Republic is apt in the sense its one thing to say some of these things from a debate stage or on a twitter feed. Its another thing to have them being said by a person who controls those institutions. Although the Justice Department, the fbi are by tradition independent from the white house, they are still the people who work there, they are still under the control formerly of the white house. So when the president talks about jailing his political components, talks about mobilizing the Law Enforcement institutions at his disposal against those people in that way, its profoundly troubling. I dont think theres anybody at this point that thinks its beyond donald trump to actually not just have this be rhetorical but to try to actually do what hes promising in these tweets. Its exactly what hes trying. Its incredibly troubling and it is just some of the most chilling things that trump does is when he talks this way and threatens action in this area. Nick, jump in. The problem is that the president s theater has a tendency to become a real theater and people take actions as a result. You see what john is saying, the president will Say Something illegal and all of a sudden theres folks on the hill who want to do an investigation. Its important that the president have a consistent standard about classified information and we know from last summer that he himself disclosed classified information that was then traced back to our allies in israel. He is not himself that careful with this information. Here he is raising all these things about the comey memos, which by the way show our classification system is completely messed up. That this kind of retroactive classification just kind of nuts, joe. It is nuts. We have a guy that actually gave classified information to the russians and then talked about investigations inside the oval office to the russians. Hes actually trying to even come close to criticizing james comey. Its outrageous. Lets talk about some positive news, mike barnacle. If we define positive by people who care about the rule of law. Its an awfully low standard we have to look for good news this way in the trump administration. But i was heartened that Jeff Sessions warned the white house that if Rod Rosenstein was fired that he would leave at once. Yes. The attorney general to don mcgahn, the white house counsel, you fire rod rosin rosenstein that i might walk as well. The larger picture, joe, i think is what you began with. It is indeed a picture. That picture of eight people three bushes, two clintons, two obamas and melania trump. And its a reminder of who we used to be as a government and as people who participated in politics, from citizens on up to candidates. We ought to frame that picture in our minds that thats the america that we had. Yep. Thats the america that we can get back. And thats the america that the president of the United States denigrated saturday during a Funeral Service with his tweets, many of which were outright lies. Lets be honest, he does it everything. He does it everything, but it was especially insulting to the United States of america on saturday. Take a look at this swipe on sessions. Gop lawmakers asking sessions to investigate comey and Hillary Clinton. Fox news, good luck with that request. You know, its just painful actually in some ways and especially on saturday as the world said goodbye to barbara bush. Yeah, it really was. The president contradicting himself in that tweet because hes accusing a newspaper of spreading lies about problems between he and Jeff Sessions and then he attacks Jeff Sessions soon after that. You know, i want to say for maybe some donald Trump Supporters that are watching and looking at the pictures of the bushes and the clintons and the obamas and saying wait a second. They were terrible leaders. Donald trump is going to set things straight. He would never be like any of them. Donald trump was a big supporter of the clintons. A big supporter of big clinton. A big supporter of Hillary Clinton. Donald trump did not become the donald trump that people who voted for him would have liked until 2011, 2012. He was a huge democrat. And then he discovered birtherism and decided he was going to use race and resentment to try to become the Republican Partys nominee. So, again this is ive seen this before. Its interesting. I had to give a debate this weekend, mika. So i was trying to go back to see what i had said throw the years because it was newt and i that were going back and forth with each other. And actually i should say this to jon meacham, john except for how you helped me in my 2013 book, i noticed that the book i wrote in 2004 and 2009 and 2013 were identical. They were basically saying the same thing. Republicans should be small government conservatives. They should be conservative idealogically and they should be moderate temperamentally. You have donald trump, though, who is neither and just as i caught hell around the clock when i wrote that first book when george h. Bush was president , i said, hey, trust me. This too shall pass. Its just like donald trump. We look at that picture and we think we will never get back to that again, but so too shall donald trump pass. And when he does, the Republican Party is going to have a hell of a time explaining what they did in the four to eight years while he was there. Yeah. I find more and more that talking about the Republican Party and the president are two entirely separate conversations. Theyre still stockholm syndrome. The republican lawmakers still fear this base out there. I remember being in a Southern State not tennessee right after the republican primary in 2016 and asking the governor of that state what surprised him the most about trumps big win. And he said, you know, when you run for statewide office in a state like arkansas, you know every precinct. And there are these tiny precincts where there were only 20 voters for 20 years that were getting 700, 800 people coming out of the woodwork to vote for trump. And so it was just a new a whole new phenomenon. Two quick things, one on writing more books and as someone who does it, theres a reason that harper lee is harper lee. She had one thing to say and said it. Right. The rest of us are just hopelessly trying to say the same thing again and again. Theres a reason to kill a mocking bird is to kill a mocking bird. Secondly, on the president s essential opportunityism. Youre right about the new york democrat years. Also remember theres a line in George Herbert walker bushs diary when he was running for president in 1988 when lee at water and donald trump apparently cooked up an overture to president bush Vice President bush to put donald trump on the ticket in 1988. And bushs inem itable reaction in the diary was strange, unbelievable. And it still is. It really is. And of course mika, that grow from strange and unbelievable to george w. Bushs response to Donald Trumps inaugural address, that was some weird blank. Not much changed through the years. Unbelievable. Meachum, dont you have a book coming out in two weeks. Funny you should say all that. Theres a reason theres only one harper lee and im not it. Oh, boy, thats a tease. Thats a real promo. Still ahead on morning joe, north korea promises new overtures on its nuclear program, but plenty of people in washington are warning weve seen this show before. And the question is, is kim jongun playing a con game with President Trump . Richard haass will talk about that. But first were going to bill karins with a check on the forecast. Bill . It was a beautiful weekend, wasnt it, mika . We finally had a really nice one in the northeast throughout the Northern Plains where they melted all the 20 inches of snow they had from the week before. Unfortunately there was a storm this weekend. Louisiana was one of the areas hard hit. This is a sonic drivethrough. This is a tornado with 100 mileperhour winds. Watch that car. Thankfully no injuries. No one was reported hurt in that tornado. That was breakfast time saturday morning. That storm still lingering in the south, heavy rain for georgia, south carolina. Well give you coastal areas. Riff surf, two to three inches of rain. Horrible beach weather today. Lets time this. This will be a slowmoving storm. Charlotte, you get into the rain today. D. C. A dry monday. Raleigh has a dry monday. Go into tuesday morning, rain and raleigh arriving in richmond. As i mentioned, the great weather continues from the great lakes through the northeast. Enjoy lunch outdoors today. 64 in new york and 71 in washington, d. C. Well continue to watch this nice weather pattern throughout much of this week. Happy to report no more snow and no more tornadoes this week. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. So, my portfolio did pretty well last year. Thats great. But the market was up nearly twice as much. Thats a tough pill to swallow. Exactly. So i started trading. But with everything out there, how do you know what to buy . Well, i think my friend victor has just the thing for you. Check this out, Td Ameritrade makes it easier to find the investments that might be right for you. 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