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>> yeah, like the finale of "the apprentice." what happened, why was she fired? >> this whole thing gets to the level and caliber of talent throughout the executive branch. there were some wonderful and exceptionally good people working in the white house. there are people who you wouldn't hire. >> that's a great point. let's face it, no one few what omarosa was doing. >> what was her job? >> well, she was supposed to work in the communications side with outreach. so, but no one few what that really meant. but to mike's point, it is, you hire someone who doesn't know what the white house works, what their job definition is and to chief of staff kelly's credit, he called her out. again she went around him for the very reason she got fired for going around him in the first place, she got escorted out. >> the secret service says they were not involved in removing omarosa from the residence. >> if you feel you can walk personally into the first family's private quarters, what does that tell you? how did she even know where to go? >> well, she certainly enjoyed quite a bit of access to the president. she had walk-in privileges removed when general kelly came in. so she's been basically side lined for a while. she shot thought she could make one last -- >> maybe i don't understand, what was her job before this that made her qualified to have this job in the white house. >> i do not know. >> she was a character in the show and yoen i don't mean the "apprentice" she was a character in donald trump's white house show. >> i'll call it. she also served as someone to represent diversity. that's a part of the reason she was there. i know i'll get killed for saying that. >> you will. >> okay. >> well, we'll be following that. we will have much more ahead. we will be talking with a lot of different folks about that. but there is so much else going on. >> what just happened, joe? >> i just tried to walk into fields' apartment. >> oh my gosh, what happened? did you get escorted out? >> we had a guard that wouldn't let me pass. >> really? >> he's in a little hoity-toity place. >> i think this isn't the time you walk in the boss' office, but you feel the need in. >> i don't know. >> we'll have to look into that. we will be breaking this out a little more later on, on the show. >> they said it seems a little familiar for me to walk in. >> it's familiar. >> know your place, joe. >> i know. >> the president, let's get to the real news of the day, all tow that is fascinating. we will talk about it more. president trump says he's not responsible for roy moore's loss in the alabama senate race. the washington post reports that trump has spread the blame for tuesday's loss to his former chief strategist steve bannon. mitch mccontinental airlines and moore as well, citing senior advisers, the "post" ports trump blames bannon for urging him to support moore and mcconnell for being too aggressive in pushing moore out t. "post" reports that trump is eager not to let the loss be seen as a referendum on him. but it is. and has said that he would have one alabama again, according to a senior administration official. meanwhile, trump called doug jones to congratulate him on his historic win. jones told reporters the call was friendly. >> it was a very gracious call. i very much appreciated it. he congratulated me on the race that we won. he congratulated me and my staff on the way and the manner in which we handled this campaign and went forward and we talked about finding that common ground to work together and he invited me over to the white house to visit as soon as i get up there. >> but jones did receive a call from his opponent. >> did not. >> did not receive a call, thank you. i didn't read that right. he did not get a call from his opponent roy moore works remained defiant if defeat ask we are, indeed, in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization and our religion and have set free of suffering humanity and the battle rages on. in this race, we have not received the final count to include military and provisional ballots. this has been a very close race and we are awaiting certification by the secretary of state. >> someone really thinks he's very important. >> can you guys freeze that? you sit there, he is trying to look presidential or something like that. i couldn't help but look at yet another poor horse yanked by a rider that doesn't know what they're doing. >> i know, having the literal mouth of the horse ripped apart because he wants to look powerful and ride it badly across the field to his ultimate loss. oh well. >> let's talk for a second, willie. there are, you know me, what could you say about me? i'm a half flas full guy? >> or glass half full, either way. ye. go ahead. >> it's fought friday. we have no right to be punchy. >> may i say half glass? >> we risk it. >> you got the idea. >> are you still disturbed by fought being allowed into phil's apartment. >> he kept saying, it's all too familiar. who who do you think are you? >> it's a little too personal. >> what do the kids say about she in. >> you're an optimistic guy. >> optimistic guy. so can you look at this and see whether he says it or not the president felt chasten enough to pick up the phone and calm doug jones. the republicans called doug jones. again, we're looking for the silver lining. i think that's fairly positive. >> on the spectrum of donald trump's tweets was gracious as donald trump's tweets goes as gracious as he gets. the next day, though, yesterday morning, he said, well i few he couldn't win the election, i was right. it doesn't reflect well on him. i'll say again, roy moore was a uniquely horrific candidate. there was a very good chance he would have loss even if donald trump had not thrown his support behind him. >> mem brooks, if washington had stayed out of the way from the very beginning, mo brooks would have won the primary and been the senator right now. i'm not going out of my what i to knock on pitch mcconnell. but mike this happens all the time when republican leaders try to get or any leader tries to get too clever by half. they try to get involved in primaries, because they knew mo brooks would be a pain in the -- they get a choice for roy moore, a loss for republicans or a democrat a. loss for republicans. we can blame bannon. but steve bannon couldn't have kept mo brooks out of the race. the guy would have won the primary and he'd be for right now. >> the results the other evening, it's fought the first time that it's happened. the baseline as you both pointed out, you had a uniquely horrific candidate running for the republican as a republican roy moore. but you also had months and months, 11 months now, nearly 11 months of total dysfunction in washington, nothing being able to get done in the congress. you've had a culture, a society, a country, i think, exhausted be i the constant tweets of the president of the united states and the combination is just now, we won't vote for roy moore. but the weight of everything and it's not just alabama. >> by the way, it was the cool kids' move yesterday by the end of the day, yes, okay, he was there or, here's the big deal, alabama sent a message to the world. >> and the white house. >> and washington. >> and the message was, you know what, we're only going to be pushed so far by our tribe we're only going to let you push as hard. can you only wave the bloody flag of partisanship so much. we will only be so swayed by abortion and these wedge issues. both parties have used masterfully to divide. but we're talking about the problems donald trump had. the problem the republicans have right now going into 2018, mika, just hor risk. every single poll that comes out shows maybe donald trump can get reelected in 2020. but the republicans look like they're going down in 2018. >> the party is in an interesting position. all this as a new monmouth university poll says if the vote for congress was held today. 51% of americans would praefr democrat. while 36% would choose a republican. a 15-point advantage for the minority party. democrats must flip 24 seats in the house to win a majority. >> can we go back for a second. >> we have kristen solstice anderson. >> mika, look at these numbers, not those numbers, the ones before on the glass now. >> here we go. >> 51 to 36. now, kristen solstice sampson, i have been looking at these gen eric ballot tests for some time and maybe there was a time, those numbers were more skewed if one direction or another. i just can't remember when. >> that is if you are a republican and anything close to a swing district, you've got to be understanding here. you are probably not going to win. >> reporter: these numbers are ghastly, there is plenty of time, a year left until the mid-term elections, less than a year. but there's time for those numbers to change and what you've got to be thinking if you are a candidate in those swing districts is what can i do to be the opposite of roy moore so i can be a good candidate. even understanding that this national environment is going to be an anchor on me, weigh me down, energize my opponent supporters, there will be a lot of voters, even if there is a good candidate in their district may say, look, i like you. i got to send a message to trump. but 15 points on the gen eric ballot. i mean those are just ghastly numbers and what you will see, republicans have leaned on the fact, well they say mid-term elections are demographically more in our fate, right, it's older voters, whiter voters. they can't count on that i don't think coming next november. you seen in alabama this incredible surge in african-american turn jut. in the virginia election for governor, you saw a big uptick in voters coming out in more progressive sort of areas, sort of white upper middle class liberal voters turning out. so you've got this democratic coalition coming towing. they're going to vote in much higher numbers than you'd expect in the mid-term. well, republicans seem like they may be depressed. in alabama the other story is in these precincts, so many voters decided to stay home f. the enthusiasm is completely out of balance as it is right now that really spells disaster for republicans a year from now. >> it really does, you look at what the republicans, the republicans are in trouble now in large part because they've done really stupid things in defense of the indefensible, which is donald trump. you look at what we talk about in this next spot. look at what they were doing yesterday on the hymn. i understand partisans believe what they believe. harsh partisans, yesterday on the hill, while donald trump was talking about taxes, they were denigrating the federal bureau of investigations, the fbi, which is a popular institution, they were attacking an american hero, bob mueller, look at his record, look it up. i understand in the most hard core districts in america, this may play okay. most americans want bob mueller to be left alone. bob mueller's already indicted three people. like he's already had arrests. he's bought the the everyday going and these are the sort of things that make voters in swing districts go, wow. these are not serious people and there is something seriously wrong s. my congressman trying to obstruct justice? >> right. they were willing to take a leap for change to sandy message to washington. >> right. >> but they don't want to be dragged off the cliff. >> right. >> you know, i'll just say the district where we were two morning, ago, mountain brooke, if you look at the numbers that came out, exactly the voter are you talking about, they flipped between 50 and 60 points to the roy poor election. 50 and 60 points. so they went for donald trump. they said, no, we're not going as far as roy moore, also we are pushing back against what we've seen which is why we went to mountain brooke because that name is snon many us with highly educated conservative republican voters. you also said mountain brooke. you can't campaign in mountain broovenlth it's suffering, it's an undeal. let's say hollywood, west hollywood, like the republican going into the campaign, no, you don't do it. that's a democratic area. or you know upper west side. yet what willie said, a 50-point swing in mountain brooke, alabama, where we were. that happens when you start attacking guys that sacrificed tear lives and service for america and guided america through 9/11. >> susan, i know are you a steadfast republican, are you holding strong. >> i know. >> nothing is changing you at this point. do you have republican friends that are on the fence that are feeling a little concerned about the party? and what is it that is pulling them away from the party? >> well, it's donald trump. it's the lack of decency and honor that this president is putting forth in our country. >> sometimes it's so simple. >> it is simple. but i think at the same time republicans, like myself and other was are pulling away from the party are very concerned about the future of the party. this is it. if we don't stop this kind of trump pull apart of the party and we don't stop his agenda moving forward, then we're as a party, we are going to be misfits come 2018, 2020 and it's interesting, the republicans did that political autopsy in 2012. it wasn't wrong. donald trump was an outlier and blew everything up. but these elections, virginia, alabama, show that republicans need to attract younger people. they need to attract women. they need to be diverse. this president is doing everything possible, including supporting roy moore to turn off those groups. >> i don't think the president has the capacity to change, but i do think the people around him do. and i do think the people around him, in fact the reason why i was very correct, al the past few days of the people around the president, men and women, i think they're actually very intelligent people and they know how they could be advising this president if he would listen. they know what's wrong. it's really that simple. >> so let's look at the monmouth university poll, president trump's approval rating now 32%. >> that's a drop of 8 points, those dis approapprove rose, a s fueled by a negative reaction among women, with just 24% approval. the president has lost 12 points with women since september. including a 25-point drop among women who identify as political incidents and a 9-point drop in approval among republican women. down to 67% that's important. >> kristen, a 24% approval raterat rating among women. i never seen numbers that low. >> reporter: those are the republican women number at 67%. there are core groups within the republican coalition. so these are folks, they're already republicans. but whether they're young republicans, female republicans, trump's numbers have really fallen amongst those groups. these are folks still calling themselves republican. but i wonder to what extent trump's drop over the last month, at least in this particular poll is influenced be i the resurgence in talk like things like sexual harassment. if we see a specific gender-related decline in his numberings. the re-emergence of the ""access hollywood"" tapes the tales of the women who accused him of horrible behavior. if that coming back into the news isn't driving some sort of a backlash, then that's what's holding his numbers down further amongst republican and independent women. >> finally, in a newly released poll in the state of iowa, president president trump won -- >> he won by ten points in iowa. >> he's had some success. >> ten points, that's a huge win in iowa. he's got to be doing well there. >> no, it's just 35% according to company iowa poll sponsored by the des moines register and media-.com. trump's disapproval rating is 67% a. net negative rating of 25 points. mike barnical, what do you make of these numbers? >> you know, it's interesting the discussion this morning in the past couple minutes is interesting about the republican party. the president of the occupation, if you watched any snippet at all yesterday of the hearing with rod rosenstein. >> we will be getting no that. >> many second quarter a very fair country. people have a sense of fairness about them in this land and they know in cases like this both political parties go to their corners on both sides, if you look visually, which is where most americans see their politics these days, you see someone like the republican guy jim jordan, he never has a coat on, he's snarling at rod rosenstein, he's followed by a series of republican members of congress and they're smart. they are literally snarling in their questioning of rosenstein, with regard to bob mueller. >> what they think they're doing, mike, is they actually think that they're setting things up for donald trump. >> yes. >> to fire bob mueller. let's just lay this out right now. i think -- and we had joyce yesterday saying donald trump's not going to be indicted. he might be an unindicted co-conspirator. everybody around him may ends up going to jail. but he's not going to ends up going to jail. american versus a very short attention span. i still say this president can survive just about anything over team. one thing can you not survive, firing bab mueller, launching a crisis that would get him impeached the day after democrats took control of congress next year. there is nothing he can do to stop the democrats from taking control at least of the house next year. but you fire bob mueller, even he knows, that's a line he can't cross. >> you think he does know that? >> he knows he has mueller because of comey and he has to know, if he has if his lawyers are anything other than total idiots, he knows if he fires mueller, that immediately gets the states filing charges, he can't pardon against the state charges. if those kids yesterday that made fools of themselves attacking an american hero that guided this country so ably through the after math, if they don't think that bob mueller is five steps ahead of them, they are fools, tear constituents should be ashamed they sent those children up to the hill. because that's what they are. they are humiliating tems, they're trying to undercut the rule of law and it doesn't ends well for them. >> you said it, though, bob mueller doesn't care, he's got his head down going his job. >> joyce vance will be on the show later today still ahead on "morning joe," republicans are moving full speed ahead with the tax cut bill despite calls from democrats to wait until the new democrat from alabama is seated. >> that ain't happening. >> plus, as we have been mentioni mentioning, republicans trying to undermine robert mueller and the russian investigation. we will look into that and play the heated deputy of the attorney general as he stands his grounds. you are watching "morning joe". we'll be right back. when you're clocking out. i'm 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you are laughing, oh my gosh, omarosa was a white house aide? i can't help it. >> a long national nightmare. >> gary bucci will be next. house republicans railed against special counsel robert mueller -- >> he will apparently be the next secretary of state. the president doesn't listen to this secretary of state. he undercuts him. >> warp you talking about yesterday, poor rex? >> he's looking okay, maybe this crisis will be -- one hour later, undercuts him again. sarah huckaby sanders, by the way, i here there were some pharisees, mika, looking at the spec in your eye. you just read the new testament. i'm wondering a preacher like mike huckaby is reading the new testament. i hope he does that judge be not be judged the beattitudes. you got to read matthew instead of leviticus. but that's all i'm saying. i'm an opt mick guy. i like him, mike, but, really, going around like a philisine. a pharisee, what are you doing? that's kind of embarrassing for you, fought for us, for you. >> what is a pound of sand me? >> i don't know, judge that ye be not judged? >> it's fought dirty or something? >> no. >> i didn't understand it. >> i don't know, where mika grew up in this bubble. >> hasn't seen the "godfather." >> never saw the "brady bunch." >> i get if you have here on this set. >> thank you very much, joe. >> no, you are welcome. i'm not saying that for you, for him. you shouldn't go around like some -- >> well, they think i was attacking the women in the white house. what they did is had a headline saying mika attacks women in the white house. no, i actually spoke critically and i do think that women can handle criticism equally to men, specific women who are around the are the who have specific jobs that they're not doing and then i spoke about the men in the white house and the spec jobs that they're not doing, so i actually spoke about the men and the women in the white house and how they are failing the country. especially on moral ground in terms of bullying. >> let me ask you something in terms of sarah huckaby sanders, people seem no love to take your words and wretch them from their proper context saying that you have -- >> i worry about that. >> have you ever talked about the way she dresses or any of this other stuff? >> no. >> they always say you did. that you really were wird for herly mentioned once she's a mother of three. i mentioned that out of great respect. that is sort of like makes it even more important. >> to tell the truth. >> and to serve this country in a truthful way. and i even had a #support for sarah. i don't think attacking helps. i think we need to support everybody in the white house to try and do the right thing. if you can't, leave. that's all i ask. >> all right. i'm sort of #pharisee mike. >> examine. >> judge ye be not judged. what are you doing, you sounds like jim and tammy faye baker from 1978. stop it. >> i think the whole thing was contrived in a fox sort of way. >> in a mr. fox sort of way what do you mean? >> it was fantastic. >> that is a great -- have you seen the pa majority? i have probably seen that movie a thousand times. >> clooney excellent. >> no doubt about it. all of them, fantastic. and so it begins. we actually assign each one of the kids has a word, has a phrase from fantastic mr. bucks him mine is, whenever they upset me and so it begins. >> all right t. latest on the mueller investigation and there are updates straight ahead on "morning joe." this is not a cloud. this is a tomato tracked from farm to table on a blockchain, helping keep shoppers safe. this is a financial transaction secure from hacks and threats others can't see. 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rande gerber, a restaurateur, business partner of his, tooled the story on an msnbc show, they went to a dinner party at clooney's house, each guest received a suitcase. >> what was in the suitcase $1 million in cash per guest 14 million. thanks for being great friends, you let me sleep on your couches in hollywood, i'd be nothing without you. thank you. >> george, you can sleep on my couch any time. >> in $20 bills. >> that would be heavy. >> you don't have to worry like johnny depp in "proceed" walking through the airport. holy cow. >> let's move on. house republicans railed against special council robert mueller's investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. in the wak of receiving tech messages from 2016 between two romantically involved fbi officials, in which agent peter strzok, who worked on both the hillary clinton and trump investigations called president trump an idiot and shared pro-clinton views, mueller removed strzok from his post when he learned of the messages last summer, but that did not satisfy house judiciary committee republicans works yesterday questioned the mueller probe's supervisors deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. >> we are now beginning to better understand the magnitude of this insider bias on mr. mueller's team. >> this is not just political opinions. this is disgusting unaccountable bias and there is no way that could not affect a person's work. >> how with a straight face can you sa i that this group of democrat partisans are unbiassed? >> these 10ths are also evidence. they're not evidence of an appearance of impropriety. they are evidence of an actual vitriolic bias and hatred for the subject of the special counsel's investigation. >> what do you have to see in terms of the actions of people with demonstrated bias against the president of the united states before you will appoint a special counsel to investigate the clear bias that has infected the investigation? >> this is unbelievable and i'm here to tell you, mr mr. rosenstein, i think the public trust in this whole thing is gone. >> are you the guy in charge. are you the guy that picked mueller. you are the guy that picked the memo to say why you fired comey. can you disband the mueller special prosecutor. can you do what we have all called for, appoint a second special counsel to look into this. what is it going to take to get a special second counsel to answer these questions and find out was period of tipeter strzo was. >> i think the inspector has 500 employees, he investigates misconduct of employees, that review he is conducting is what turned up those text messages. >> i am concerned that the special counsel may be casting too wide of a net. >> that he is trying to catch all the fish in the ocean, fought just the soviet sharks. has he ever asked to expand the scope of the investigation? >> a lot of media stories speculating about what the special counsel may or may not be doing. i know what he's doing. i'm appropriately exercising my oversight responsibilities. so i can assure that you the special counsel is conducting himself consistently to our understanding about the scope of his investigation. >> have you seen good cause to fire counsel muler? . >> no. >> if you were ordered today to fire mr. mueller, what would do you? >> as i explained previously, i would follow the regulation, if there were good cause, i would act. if there were no good cause, i would not. >> and you've seen no good cause so far? >> correct. >> why after you have heard all the concerns here today, why are you satisfied with the course of the investigation so far? >> i am satisfied, congressman, based upon what i know, which i is different than what the accounts my appear in the media, i believe director mueller is appropriately remaining within his scope and conducting himself appropriately zplits unbelievable. jim jordan actually said -- it's unbelievable. we have a national security adviser that is now, he's pled already and he's cooperating with bob mueller, we have the president's campaign manager during the campaign who has been arrested and is going, obviously, is probably going to be pleading out also. you've got a person that donald trump's told the washington post was one of his top foreign policy people that's already pled guilty. who else am i missing? is there a fourth? so it's just starting, this momentum is just starting. how many days ago was donald trump's national security adviser arrested and pled and is now cooperating with the fbi? >> two weeks. >> two weeks. jim jordan thinks the american people are stupid enough. maybe because he's not wearing a jacket and he's one of us. hey, look at him. his ties are untied. why don't he just roll up his sleeves and put on a hard hat? so jim jordan is saying that now that they're actually getting close to figuring out what went on and people have already admitted to wrong doing and they serve time t. national security adviser may serve time. they're now saying why aren't disbanding this investigation -- how stupid do they think we are? how stupid are they and how stupid, willie, do they think we are? >> well, it's probably because they know what's coming so they have to undermine the source of the information. that's what president trump has done for the last 11 months, consider the source, don't believe them, don't believe the press, don't believe the women, now don't believe the fbi, don't believe bob mueller. what is important to point out the person peter strzok the fbi act was removed from the investigation last -- >> hold on, are you telling me that the inspector general found these texts? by the way, i'd love to see these text messages during their hearings. you goes want to play that game? show your tech messages during benghazi, show your text -- why don't you reveal your tech messages and what you were texting each other while you were conduct an impartial investigation of benghazi for like eight years? but, anyway, i digress. >> he was removed from the investigation by bob mueller. >> right. >> last summer. >> during the summer when this was revealed back then. >> oh so the process works? >> yes, he found the texts and they're bad. they go after donald trump. they say f trump. they call him an idiot. this and that. when those were revealed and discovered, they were removed from the investigation. >> as andrew mccarthy national review said, hey, fbi agents, a conservative who has been very skeptical on the whole russia probe said these people are professionals, they're allowed to have their own professional opinions. strzok text looked like a big nothing, no corruption in her to jobs. lots of people, me included, speak crudely and privately about politics. if you are okay with trump's outbursts, i don't see getting whipped up over this bs. andrew mccarthy who said that he worked as a prosecutor in manhattan and he was a conservative constantly trashing liberals in private. but when it came to being fair, you put that aside. everybody has opinions. >> everyone does have opinions. as willie said, this guy was removed from the investigation. bob mueller is a republican. let's not forgot that. if they're so worried about party politics. he's a republican in charge of this investigation. what's even more disturbing about the testimony, i'm not auditioning for a potential cabinet post or whatever it was, it was just about making grand statements tarp meaningless, they had enough to go with. this investigation, there have been hiccups along the way. that's enough to call it into question. do it with some pod racing. then at least you look like you can set up the table. what's even worse, how they did it and took away basically the wind out of the president's sail. >> for taxes. they stepped on the president. >> the white house operation as much as they want to feed the congress and what they want to say to undermine the mueller investigation, they should really focus on their own agenda. >> mika, if they want to focus on a real hearing and they really want to get to the bottom of something, focus on jim i don't meany's investigation of hillary clinton. ask why all the questions we asked, wait a second. >> in real time. >> how many people did you interview are on holiday weekends, why did you fought press her, why did you let cheryl mills be there as a participant in all of this, why did you let her sit there as an attorney? there are a lot of questions. >> like meeting with the attorney general on the plane. >> bill clinton, the president of the united states barack obama twice saying oh there's nothing to see here. there's been nothing to do with national security in all of this. the president, you know, basically putting his hands on the scale twice. those are legitimate questions about the hillary clinton investigation. go for it. but when you're trying to disrupt bob mueller's investigation that has already brought down three or four people extraordinarily close to the president of the united states, you are making a fool of yourself. and are you trying to undermine the rule of law and i've said it boulevard and i'll say it again and you a jack asses don't have to listen to me. i'm a broken record here. but you are only leading to your own demise. you are going to get crushed. and next year in the elections and we have been warning you about this 33% thing. listen if you are auditioning for the number one kiss-up to donald trump, too late. lindsey graham won that award this past weekend. he's on his tourist advisory board now for trump enterprises. right? all you are doing is actually hurting republicans in swing districts and you are making nancy pelosi move one step closer to being the next speaker of the house. don't underpine the rule of law. this will stay with you the rest of your life. >> democrats, thank you. still ahead, there has been a lot of fnger pointing at steve bannon after the republicans lost a senate seat in deep red alabama. one of our next guests say it's president trump who is to blame and more with kristen solstice anderson who asks in the new york times, is trump driving young republicans out of the party? 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>> it's an extraordinary shift, and the thing is bear in mind is the oldest millennials are voting a lot like the youngest millennials. they stretch into their mid 30s. they're beginning to vote more and more. their political power is being felt increasingly, and they're voting like democrats. they're not magically becoming republicans. this is something that should have concerned republicans a long time ago. it should really concern them now, and they're running out of time to do anything about it. >> christen, thank you so much. coming up a new poll shows the president's approval rating sinking lower. the biggest drop is among independent women. >> and the part of the poll that's the most disturbing is for republican members of congress. the party, the generic ballot is historically bad for republicans. donald trump has three years before his reelect. these republicans in the house and senate? >> it's ugly. >> and the white house undercuts rex tillerson again. >> wow. >> we'll explain when "morning joe" comes right back. at fidelity, trades are now just $4.95. we cut the price of trades to give investors even more value. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. fidelity, where smarter investors will always be. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. a trip back to the dthe doctor's office, mean just for a shot. but why go back there, when you can stay home... ...with neulasta onpro? 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shouldn't this week be over? >> it's not friday? >> we have republican strategist and political commentator susan delpursio, eugene robinson, bill crystal, and robert costa. >> we were just laughing at we had the steve bannon bite, but i think perhaps the most elitist -- he was elitist for mocking me for going to the university of alabama, but i think the most elitist thing that happened this past week was when bill christrystal tweeted at stoeve bannon and said you didn't really go to harvard. i mean, ivy league condescension is the worst. >> it's just a correct fact. i wanted to make sure i was clear that he went to harvard business school, not harvard institution. it's a good -- >> you didn't say that. you said it was a network. you made it sound like a coffee club. >> well -- >> didn't you go to virginia tech, willie in. >> virginia tech. >> great school. >> harvard on harvard elitism, that's peak. >> that's the best. >> it's the best. >> forget about harvard and yale, you brought up a great point about the numbers you were poring over in alabama. it speaks to how bad things are for republicans right now. we went to mountainbrook specifically because we thought those were the -- it's a wealthy, well-educated republican enclave in birmingham, alabama. and i've never met anybody that wasn't a republican in mountainbrook in the 30, 40 years i've been going to alabama. i've never seen the democratic side of mountain brook. doug jones had to do well. you were talking about numbers out of there and the entire county that were staggering. >> yes, i went into several of these. these are districts that i guess have reluctant trump supporters, upper middle class that trump held onto, that would be true of a lot of republican congressional districts. and jones won those by huge margins, 30 points or so. that swing it seems to me -- >> by the way, you have a silky smooth voice. >> next time -- >> seriously, i think i'm listening to barry white right now. go ahead. yeah. >> i'm not even going there. one quick point and i'll stop talking since i sound so bad. >> thank god. >> everyone focuses on the working class trump supporters. trump won because he held traditional republicans who didn't like him much but swallowed hard and voted for him. that's who is at risk of being lost. >> now you need to swallow hard. >> yes. >> water. >> the precincts i was talking about last hour with the 50 point swing, they'd be plus 15 and then plus 50 for doug jones. >> and then look at the turnout in traditionally democratic districts and other parts of the state in heavily african american -- we know some people who live in a small rural community not far from selma, and a couple of days before the election they were electrified. i mean, in a place you you just on an off year election you wouldn't see this level of organizing and getting people out of the polls. >> i have to say this is like nothing i've ever seen before in an off year election, the intensity, the organization on the ground, the people coming out, the fact that black voters across alabama came out at the same level they did for barack obama in 2008 is staggering. bob costa, as we're talking about mountain brook and some of these more educated republican enclaves across whether it's alabama or virginia, i'm struck by my mind keeps going back to marco rubio who we september saying early on when others were saying marco was going to win. we september skept saying where base? what is his state? if marco had run in '88, '92, '96, 2000, probably would have won with the field he was running against. but these areas we're talking about, those are the areas marco rubio did really well with. you remember going back to iowa. it's where he really could bring it together. the problem is you've got trump voters and then rubio voters in places like mountain brook and parts of des moines, and it seems that this is a party splitting in half. how do they bring that together? how do they get a candidate that can win the rubio and trump voters? >> i was at the capital all day yesterday talking to republican and democrats in the senate, and joe, the republicans i spoke to like senator shelby and senator graham, they say this tax cut, they hope it's going to be a thread that unites everybody for a little while, but they know the rubio voters and trump coalition aren't going to come together because of a tax package and they know president trump is as incendiary as ever in the way he handles his party. democrats are trying to say this was more about alabama. this was a revolt against the trump agenda as senator bernie sanders said, a vote against trumpism. republicans somewhat aware of this. roy moore was a candidate with many problems. at the same time, this may have some consequences beyond alabama. >> you know, susan, if republicans on the hill think this is about policy, they've got it wrong. when they say -- donald trump can tweet whatever he wants and that's just a tweet. that's the core of the problem. trumpism. i mean, this will come as a shock to a lot of people in the media, i think not only most republicans but a lot of americans like what donald trump says on immigration for the most part. not the most extreme parts of it, but a lot of what he says would do pretty well. the tax cut not really popular, but the elements are driving away young voters that are scaring black voters, that are scaring women and getting them all energized. it is the harshness. it is the tweets. it is the extremism. it is the attack that -- >> ugliness. >> the ugliness of it all, that is making donald trump a toxic brand. >> it is, and when we look back at alabama and talk about how donald trump did, let's not forget he did it against hillary clinton which was a toxic candidate in red states like alabama. roy moore when he ran statewide ran 10 points behind mitt romney in 2012. there was a lot happening at one time for donald trump to get that mass support in red states like he did in 2016. it does not transfer into 2018. donald trump's brand is destroying the republican party. and if republicans don't get out of their bubble in washington and start seeing it, they're so used to seeing individual story after individual story not going far and destroying, but it is having a cumulative effect, and we've seen it in special elections for congress dallas republicans are doing -- underperforming, and this is going to take them into a losing position in 2018, especially when we look at the core states that are going to get hit with the tax bill, new york, california, pennsylvania. >> donald trump's words have real consequences. his tweets have real ko consequences. anybody at this table see a poll where a president had approval rating of 27% with women? 24%. >> if republicans don't get that message from alabama, right? from alabama where the last time the seat was up democrats didn't bo bother to run a candidate because it was a foregone conclusion, it's amazing. you were speaking of marco rubio. he's taken to tweeting out not so random bible verses. this morning he tweeted one from e cheese yas tease. even when walking in the street, the fool lacking understanding calls everyone a fool. >> that's roy moore, i guess. >> oh -- >> i don't think so. >> mika has been doing an excellent job for me with the lemon water. now can i talk for twenty-seconds. >> i agree with everything said, but i would say what does it mean for the republicans on the hill to do something about it. they have had a chance for a year to distance themselves from donald trump. >> i think they wanted the chance to does the experiment work? >> what does it do? >> this is what they do. they separate themselves from donald trump's facts. maybe they go, i like this tax bill. it's not perfect, but it brings down rates to 37% for individuals, but i'll tell you what. that attack against kiersten ji gillibrand is offense ive. immigration. i'm with the president on that policy, but when he says that mika brzezinski is bleeding badly from her face, her going to stand together and call it out. >> i totally agree. that requires a sort of entrepreneur ship by republican members. they need to take the lead. they're so used to following leadership and deferring to the white house and deferring to their own to mcconnell and ryan. it will be interesting to see if they can -- >> hold on. hold on. i have one more. >> we just spent ten months where we said this is where they're going to break. >> i have one more. we don't like joe scarborough, but the president shouldn't suggest he's a murder. that's another one. >> see? i mean, come on. >> i was 50/50 on that one. no. you know, guess what. the constitution provides that that's what the congress is supposed to do. congress is supposed to put restraints on -- >> here's what they can do now. they can protect bob mueller. that hearing yesterday was laying the ground work for trump firing mueller. why did 20 or 15 republican congressmen give coordinated statements. they were reading the statements. that was not random comments. they got together. they had guidance to attack the mueller investigation. >> they should understand. they do not understand. i think the president's own lawyers even understand don't mess with bob mueller. >> the republicans on the hill could defend him. >> republicans on the hill don't understand this is the meltdown. this is the core meltdown. they just can't go there. by the way, breaking news, walt disney company is buying most of the 21st century box, a $52.4 billion deal. i don't think it's fox news. i don't think it's the tv networks but the entertainment side of it. pretty significant. including "the simpsons". i have to tell jack that. we watch three of those a night. it's not right, i guess. >> i ask, bill, to your point, to taking on donald trump from the republican seat, what's been the cost of the people for people who have done it? nothing. there's been no cost. >> that's not what they see. what were jeff flakes numbers? bob corker stepped down worried about a primary challenge. they remain worried about the fact -- look, moore lost in alabama. that's a great thing. 90% of the primary voters voted for him. if you're a republican congresswoman from alabama, it's dicey for her to step up front in the sexual harassment suit and say i'm going to support legislation to protect bob mueller. i hope they do, but we shouldn't underestimate how far they are from going where we want them to go. >> there are some that have been able to do it. james langford, a member of the senate intel committee tweeted yesterday, they are following the facts where they lead in a bipartisan manner. this russian investigation is not just important for the president. it is important for the presidency. russians will try to interfere with our elections again. we must be ready. i have seen time and time again james langford, a very conservative guy from a very conservative state, that if they face alabama in the national championship, we'll lose, but still, i have such great respect for senator langford, and -- >> a good eye roll by mika. >> he's shown character time and time again, and i don't think he's been hurt by it. >> that's exactly my point on ben sass. you can be conservative. you can hold your conservative ideals and protect the institutions of the country and still support pieces of president trump's initiatives. you can support tax reform and also stand tall in the face of some of the president's inflictions. >> i think the people of nebraska will stand by ben sass. >> and there is strength in numbers. the president is for being a bully, he'll back down if there's numbers. it's almost the me too movement for the republicans to step up and say something. >> republicans need their own me too movement. >> we talked about it time and again especially since virginia that the republican members as bill crystal said, find themselves in a difficult political fix. they need donald trump to win a primary, but if they're in a swing state, they can't win the general election in this climate with donald trump by their side. >> it's a vexing position for them to be in, and in talking to senators privately whose names i'll leave aside. they said the media and critics don't understand that their voters are so furious about the global economy, about their kids not having jobs, about their children having addiction problems, about the way the country is moving, that if they move against trump, they fear those voters, some of their core voters will look at them as allies of the establishment. they feel like they're in a corner there because they do not want to be seen in this kind of very hostile environment for elected officials as allied with the establishment in either party, and so they're trying to stay quiet now. pass a tax bill and they feel like if the president ever came to the level of firing bob mueller, they tell me, that is when they have to turn. that is when they have to protect the integrity of justice in this country, but until then, they really don't want to feel pressure because of this fumiin atmosphere. >> it didn't look like it yesterday. it sounds like there were people in that room who were fine with with having bob mueller fired. i don't think that's the case. >> the that's not the line, then it's just talk. then it's a bunch of tweets. i very much respect jim langford and i think he has credibility, but again, it's the small number of those people that's most striking, not the large number. >> it is. we look at ben sass, and i forget what you said when i said i support the policies. you said it requires a political flexibility. >> entrepreneurship. >> yes. but this isn't really that hard. i mean, i probably held hundreds of town hall meetings. it would be easy. i did this time and time again when i went after newt gingrich. i said i support his positions. but he's on this, this, this. they understand that. with donald trump you can say we want these tax cuts. he can't suggest that a woman would be willing to have sex with him for political contributions. that's not what you want your girls to grow up in. that's not -- you can do that and even the most conservative districts can understand it. i think they're afraid to. >> i agree. >> brevity is a soul of wit. >> especially when it's i agree with lemon water. thank you all. >> gene, final thoughts? >> final thoughts. i think tuesday was a very important moment in this whole arc, and we'll see if people recognize it as such. but i think it really was. >> bob costa, final thought? >> i agree with gene. a democrat won in the deep south. the democrats were more invis n invigora invigorated. they feel a tidal wave could be coming in 2018 if they can win the culture war and make an economic pitch. vladimir putin made remarks moments ago that president trump will likely love. we'll bring in keir simmons who is in moscow. >> are they going to build the tower? >> we'll see. straight ahead. plus -- >> i think the public trusting this whole thing is gone. it seems to me you have two things you can do. you're the guy in charge. you can disband the mueller special prosecuter and appoint a second special counsel to look into this. >> yes. yes, you do really want to obstruct justice and fire bob mueller like a week or two after he actually got a national security adviser to plead guilty to lying to the fbi and covering up god knows what. that really would be a great thing to do right now. wouldn't it, congressmen? actually, no. you're alone on that. >> republicans grilled the justice department over anti-trump bias within bob mueller's team. joyce vance joins us next. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ a wealth of information. a wealth of perspective. ♪ a wealth of opportunities. that's the clarity you get from fidelity wealth management. straightforward advice, tailored recommendations, tax-efficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor to help you grow and protect your wealth. fidelity wealth management. we got a lot to cover today. we want to take a moment to recognize a very solemn seas anniversa anniversary. >> the five-year anniversary of the sandy hook school shooting when children were killed inside their school. six school officials, staff, the principal killed as well. 26 in all. five years ago. i mean, i wasn't here for 9/11. i didn't cover that in new york the way you did, but the newtown shooting is the worst i've ever covered. i went up there as soon as we got the news, and we were parked across the street, standing there, the kids' bodies were still in the school. the parents were reporting to a fire house in front of the school to see if one of their children was among the dead. and it was five years ago today. and i think about the families, the parents of those kids, what they go through on this anniversary, but every day, and at this time five years ago at 7:25 in the morning, they were probably pouring a bowl of cereal for their first grader to go to school not knowing what was coming two hours later. >> it's -- we talked about this. mika, i don't know that there's been anything as jarring other than september 11th, certainly in my lifetime of following news and reporting on the news than what happened in knewtonewtown years ago today. it just still -- it's something obviously that the families will never get past. it's something that the town will never get past. and so many of these families are still fighting every day to make sense of it, but to also try to turn this tragedy into something good. you look at the numbers, the daily news, october 3rd wrote that there have been -- there's been nearly one mass shooting every day for the 1,754 days since the shocking slaughter of those 20 connecticut angels. and mike barnicle, there are times -- the american people, i mean, this shook the american people to the core. 90% of americans still support enhanced background checks. the number of americans that support a ban on assault-style weapons continues to go up. americans support gun safety at higher numbers than ever before and so much of it came out of that, and yet, how does congress answer this just a week ago? >> well, a week ago the house of representatives in the united states congress passed a bill called a concealed to carry reciprocity act of 2017. that allows you if you have a conceal/carr conceal/carry permit, to bring your gun to that other state and walk down a main street in that other state with your concealed weapon. >> you know, all of us have lived a lifetime where certain event have occurred and we think, well, this is it. the assassinations of a president, of a civil rights leader, of senators, of mass shootings in las vegas and elsewhere. we think well, this is it. this is it. they will come to their senses. they will begin to address the reality that the majority of americans as you just said, want more stringent legislation to prevent mental cases from getting weapons, from being able to get mail order weapons, from being able to go to a gun show on saturday and buy a baa zozba. we thought when 25 people were killed five years ago, but 20 first graders in their classroom, we thought this is it, and we are still my takeist. >> and you look at the number of americans that have been killed by guns since sandy hook. it's unfathomable that congress still has refused to do anything despite the fact that 90% of americans want them to. they are playing to a small hard core interest group in washington d.c., and not even listening to the majority of nra members who want -- they'll say that again. the majority of nra members, the majority of republicans, the majority of conservatives, want expanded background checks, and they want legislation passed, gun safety legislation passed. >> and they can start even working backwards from some of the most dangerous weapons out there. you can start at whether it's the block giz moe on the gun or other types of weapons. we do have certain standards in our country. you can't have land mines on your yard. those are deemed too dangerous. >> we have to force the country into sensible, responsible gun ownership. you're right. most nra members are for proper background checks. they have no problem with waiting. if i need a gun in 24 hours, there's probably a bad reason i want a gun in 24 hours. the government needs to start moving this, and this is one of the issues that we can start saying i'm for the second amendment, but we need to be responsible. this is something republicans can be moderate on and still hold onto their base. >> and the bump stock issue, willie, that after las vegas, after that horrific slaughter in las vegas, we heard that they might even move on bump stock. they can't even do that. >> everybody says all the right things in the day in the shooting or the couple of days after. they wait and it goes away. it happened in las vegas. i want to say one thing about teachers and what we ask our teachers to do now. vickie was a teacher at sandy hook found cradling, huddling, surrounded children. she was killed. shfs prote she was protecting her kids. this happens in schools all the time. our kids go to schools where our teachers are asked to stand in the way of a bullet to protect children. it happened in new mexico last week. didn't get a lot of play in the press. a former student walked into a high school, killed two kids in the high school, two bright, young teenagers and a substitute teacher, katie potter, she was subbing that day, had to push a couch in front of a door, protect 17 kids as the shooter was shooting from the class. he couldn't get in. she saved these kids' lives. and she said i'll show up at work on monday if you need me. we're in the just asking our teachers who teach our kids. we're not just asking them in many cases to pay for their own school supplies. we're asking them to literally put their lives on the line for our kids. they do it every day. >> the fact that we're still here five years later is unspeakable on so many levels. we'll be right back. this is electricity. ♪ this is a power plant. this is tim barckholtz. that's me! this is something he is researching at exxonmobil: using fuel cells to capture carbon emissions at power plants. this is the potential. reducing co2 emissions by up to 90%... while also producing more power. this could be big. energy lives here. 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she's a former reality tv star once called russia's paris hilton, now a 36-year-old mother who says he's ready to take on the controversial and powerful russian leader. >> russian people are not stupid. they know that the system we're living is undemocratic. my dream is to see this kremlin wall opened for all the people. >> reporter: she already has support suppor supports. what do you think of the idea of a woman becoming the president of russia? >> yes. >> reporter: and detractors who allege she's running with putin's blessing. a putin family friend, her father, was one of putin's mentors. are you president putin's good daughter? >> no, i'm not. >> reporter: you can see why people would be suspicious that you are -- well, some people would say a kremlin stooge. >> they can say and they will say whatever they like. i think they should judge actions. >> reporter: her election office run by young start using social media, she has 5.4 million instagram followers. her account mixing fashion with politics. >> politics is not something boring. it's not only old men sitting in suits and discussing inflation. it's fashionable. >> reporter: this morning putin denying influencing america's election. they see us as a threat. >> president putin taking hours of questions from journalists here as he always does. he was asked about a range of subjects. another one that ban on russian athletes taking part in the winter olympics under the russian flag with russian anthem. he admitted that there are cases of doping in russia and so said it's our fault. we gave them a pretext for this. at the same time as claiming the ban is politically motivated has in the past suggested it's part of an american attempt to intervene in the elections here in russia. mika? >> keir summimmons, thank you. >> a lot to unpack there. >> joining us now joyce vance, and former cia station chief who spent five years in moscow, dan hoffman. >> dan, let's start with you. your reaction to the fact that vladimir putin and i'm not being facetious here, vladimir putin sounded like he could have been a spokesman for the rnc. >> yeah. well, of course he's going to deny any medaling in tdling in election process. he was director of the fsb. he knows by denying something we did he adds a measure of conspiracy. that's part of his plan to soil our democratic process. >> what about talking about donald trump as a successful president, the stock market going up? him -- people getting in his way of doing the good things he wants to do? is that just playing to donald trump's ego again? >> i think first, he likes to be in a position of grading the administration's homework. that elevates his status inside russia in anticipation of his elections in march. he wants to try to drive a wedge between the administration and the congress. if you recall it was the congress that pushed forward the sanctions, and i think vladimir putin is trying to play a to the that as well. >> joyce, yesterday a group of republicans tried to sully the reputation of bob mueller. i love your reaction to what we saw in that hearing and rod rosenstein's response. >> well, rod rosenstein went to bat for bob mueller saying he'd seen nothing improper in that investigation, and vouching for mueller's impeccable credentials. these efforts, i think to sully muler in his investigation are really nothing other than the most recent efforts launched by this administration in its real effort to deplete our institutions, so violate the rule of law. they're preparing for inevitable indictments and trying to convince the public that when they come, there's something wrong with mueller's investigation. >> dan, as somebody who understands russia better than anything at the table. two part question, what do you think putin wants out of this disruption he's causing in american clicks and in the 2016 election, and based on what you know, how do you suspect he did it in terms of getting with paul manafort or general flynn or all the allegations? how did he prosecuter that job? >> i think there are vodka bottles propped up in the kremlin right now. there's no question russia mounted a discoverable influence operation using our social media sites so we would assume russia was involved and that would soil our democratic process. i think he's doing all this with his sights on the march 2018 elections. he's aware his own opposition derives a lot of inspirational support from the united states, from our adherence to liberty and freedom and democracy. it's the greatest threat to russia. he feels like if he can take us down a notch, then he can say to his own supporters, look, if you think the united states is so great, they're throwing stones from their glass house city on a hill. >> to follow up, we talked about 2016, but you think there may have been some influence in this past tuesday's election? is that correct? >> i do believe that there is some initial forensics, if you look at some of the website, looking at the twitter feeds, there's some evidence that russian-linked websites were interfering with the election in alabama, and posting tweets about candidate roy moore. >> in favor of roy moore? >> highlighting all the issues and some apparently in favor and just to get the issue out there. right now they're trying to tweet about or tweeting about the fbi. >> joyce, rod rosenstein yesterday, a lot of people might think he's appointed by donald trump, that he's whatever, a political appointee. could you describe the independent nature of rod rosenstein? >> so rod rosenstein was first a bush united states attorney. he was then reupped to serve to serve under president obama. he's a career justice department employee. he's independent. he has very firm beliefs about the right way to do things in those doj traditions and views. i think americans can feel good about rod being there. if i could just go back to the last point, i think it's important to note that alabama not really an election where you would expect the russians to have a dog in that fight and to be all that engaged. there was a lot of social media activity, and although it was largely pro moore, really russia's engagement there was an effort to drive a wedge between different groups and people to further exacerbate tensions and in that way to destroy our way of life. >> all right. joyce vance, thank you very much. and dan hoffman, thank you as well. >> thanks, appreciate it. >> coming up, joe biden's touching moment with meghan mccain on "the view ", consoling her as her father battles the same disease that took biden's son, beau. 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"the washington post" reports that trump has spread the blame for tuesday's loss to his former chief strategist steve bannon, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell as well as moore himself, citing senior white house officials and advisers, "the post" reports trump blames bannon for urging him to support moore and mcconnell for being too aggressive in trying to push moore out. "the post" also reports that trump is eager not to let the loss be seen as a referendum on him. but it is. he has said he will have one alabama again, according to a senior administration official. meanwhile, trump called doug jones to congratulate him on his historic wins. jones told reporters the call was friendly. >> it was a very gracious call, i very much appreciated it. he congratulated me on the race that we won. congratulated me and my staff on the way and the manner in which he handled this campaign and went forward. we talked about finding that common ground, to work together. he invited me over to the white house to visit as soon as i get up there. >> but jones did receive a call from his opponent -- >> did not. >> did not. thank you. i didn't read that right. did not get a call from his opponent roy moore who remained defiant in defeat. >> we're in a struggle to preserve our republic, civilization and religion and set free a suffering humanity and the battle rages on. we have not received the final count to include military and provisional ballots. this has been a very close wait and we're awaiting certification by the secretary of state. >> someone really thinks he's very important. >> you sit there and he's trying to look presidential or something like that. i couldn't help but look at yet another poor horse being yanked by a rider that doesn't know what they're doing. >> having the little mouth of the horse ripped apart because he wants to look powerful and ride it really badly across a field to his ultimate loss. >> anyway, let's talk for a second, willie. you can look at this and see whether he says it or not, the president felt chastened enough to pick up the phone and call doug jones. other republicans called doug jones. again, we're looking for the silver lining, i think that's fairly positive. >> on the spectrum of donald trump tweets, his tweet on election night was gracious, as his tweets go, as gracious as he gets. yesterday morning he said i knew he couldn't win the general election. i was right, so somehow claiming victory. this doesn't help donald trump, doesn't reflect well on him. i will say again, roy moore was a unique think horrific candidate. there's a good chance he would have lost even if donald trump hadn't thrown support behind him. >> if washington had stayed out from the beginning, mo brooks would be the senator right now. that's why i'm not knocking -- not going doubt of my way to knock on mitch mcconnell, but, mike, this happens all the time when republican leaders try to get -- any leader tries to get too clever by half. they try to get involved in the primaries because they knew mo brooks would be a pain in the ass for mitch mcconnell. what happened? they ended up getting a choice between roy moore, a loss for republicans, or a democrat, a loss for republicans. we can blame bannon and we can blame -- steve bannon couldn't have kept mo brooks out of the race. the guy could have won the primary and he would be senator right now. >> the results the other evening, it's not the first time in political history it's happened. the baseline is you both have pointed out, you had a uniquely horrific candidate running for the republican -- running as a republican, roy moore. you also had nearly 11 months of total dysfunction in washington, nothing able to get done in congress. you've had a culture, a society, a country i think exhausted by the constant tweets of the president of the united states and the combination is just, no, i'm goat not going to wrote for roy moore. >> here is the big deal. alabama sent a message to the world. >> and the white house. >> and the white house, and the message was, you know what? we're only going to be pushed so far by our tribe. we're only going to let you push us -- you can only wave the bloody flag of partisanship so much. we will only be so swayed by abortion and these wedge issues that both parties have used masterfully over the past 30 years to divide. talking about the problems donald trump had, the problem republicans had right now going into 2018, mika, just horrific. every single poll that comes out shows maybe donald trump can get re-elected in 2020, but the republicans look like they're going down in '18. >> the party is in a very interesting position at this point. all this as a new national monmouth university poll says if the vote for congress was held today, 51% of americans would prefer a democrat while just 36% would choose a republican. a way of life 15-point and vantage for the party. democrats must flip 24 seats in the house. >> mika, look at these numbers. not those numbers, the one before. 5-36. kristen solstice anderson, hi' been looking at generic ballot tests for some time. maybe there was a time those numbers were more asked you in one direction or another. i just can't remember when. if you're a republican? close to a swing district, you've got to be understanding you're probably not going to win. >> these numbers are ghastly. there is plenty of time. there's a year left until the midterm elections, less than a year. but there ie's time for those numbers to change. what you've got to be thinking if you're a candidate in one of those swing districts, what can i do to be the opposite of roy moore so i can be a really good candidate? understanding this national environment is going to be an on chore on me, going to energize my opinion point's supporters, there will be a lot of voters, even if there's a good candidate in their district will say, look, i may like you, but i'm going to send a message to trump. but 15 points on the generic ballot. those are just ghastly numbers. what you're going to see, republicans have leaned on the fact, they say midterm elections are demographically more in our favor, older voters, whiter voters. they can't count on that i don't think coming next november. you've seen this incredible surge in african-american turnout. in the virginia election for governor, you saw a really big uptick in voters coming out in more progressive sort of areas, white, upper middle class liberal voters turning out. you've got this democratic coalition coming together. they're gong to vote in much higher numbers than you'd expect in the midterm while republicans seem like they may be depressed. in alabama i think the other store riff is in many of these republican precincts, so many voters simply decided to stay home. if the enthusiasm is completely out of balance, as it is right now, that really spells disaster for republicans a year from now. >> it really does. still ahead on "morning joe," efforts to upped mine bob mueller's investigation went into overdrive yesterday. we'll play the key moments of the deputy attorney general's testimony before the senate judiciary committee. there's one less reality show star in the white house this morning. we'll dig into the drama that unfolded when the white house tried to show omerosa the door. >> willie brought it up, gary bussey, next secretary of state. >> no. it's lindsey because he -- >> it's him and rodman. i'm not ready to report either. >> to deal with north korea? >> yeah. the crisis on the peninsula. >> gary played a bean buddy holly. >> he did a great job. straight to bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> who also played buddy holly a decade later. >> my version wasn't quite as good. it's worth a good watch. let's get into the forecast. mika didn't love the snow coming in this morning. a lot of people have delayed their morning commutes in and around southern new england and new york city and ifl if, even our friends in ohio, too. a lot of advisories being dropped. the snow is almost over with. in the last six hours it raced through pennsylvania. snowing boston south wards and into rhode island. what's worse is when you clean up this mess from last night and this morning, it's not fun. detroit had a couple of inches, windchill is 5. green bay is minus 9 right now. the arctic blast has followed this latest snowy vent and that cold air will rush into the east during the day today. the good portion of this forecast is the rest of the country. it's really only the great lakes, ohio valley and the northeast. the southeast, a little chilly, but no complaints. almost 60 in plaent, 72 in tampa. still dry in texas. all of the west continues to be dry. unfortunately for california, the fire weather is getting back into critical stage again. it's going to be windy again today and temperatures around 78 degrees. even into tomorrow, not a lot changes. the only really change in the forecast is we're adding wet weather in the pacific northwest. haven't been talking about wet weather there in a long time. have to build up the snowpack. denver tomorrow, 60 degrees, not travel issues. still bitterly cold in the great lakes and the northeast. you have to wait for sunday where it will warm up into the 40s in many areas of the northern half of the country. new york city's snowflakes are melting. no problem driving around the city. it's the burbs where you have to be careful. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. at fidelity, trades are now just $4.95. we cut the price of trades to give investors even more value. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. fidelity, where smarter investors will always be. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. i love you, droolius caesar, but sometimes you stink. febreze car vent clip cleans away odors for up to 30 days. because the things you love can stink. my dad's. grandma's. aunt stacy's. what are the reasons you care for your heart? 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>> this sun believable. i'm here to tell you i think the public trust in this whole thing is gone. you're the guy in charge. you're the guy who picked mueller, who wrote the memo saying why he needed to fire comey. you're the guy in charge. you can disban the mueller special prosecutor and do what we all thought. what's it going to take to get a second special counsel to answer these questions and find out was peter strzok up to what i think he was. >> i think it's important to understand we have an inspector general that has 500 employeetion and a hundred million dollar budget. this is what he does. investigates department employees. the review he's conducting is what turned up those sect messages. >> i'm concerned the special counsel might be casting too wide of a net. has he ever asked to expand the scope of the investigation? >> there are a lot of media stories speculating about what the special counsel may or may not be doing. i know what he's doing. i'm appropriately exercising my oversight and responsibilities. so i can assure you the special counsel is conducting himself consistently with our understanding about the scope of his investigation. >> have you seen good cause to fire special counsel muler? >> no. >> if you were ordered today to fire mr. mueller, what would you do? >> as evidence' explained previously, i would follow the regulation. if there were good cause, i would ability. if there were no good cause, i would not. >> you've seen no good cause so far? >> correct. >> why, after you've heard all the concerns expressed today, why are you satisfied with the course of the investigation so far? >> i'm satisfied, congressman, based upon what i know which is different from what accounts may appear in the media, based upon what i know, i believe director mueller is appropriately remaining within his scope and conducting himself appropriately. >> jim jordan actually said -- it's unbelievable. we have a national security adviser that is now -- he's pled already and is cooperating with bob mueller. we have the president's campaign manager during the campaign who has been arrested and is going -- obviously is going to be pleading out, also. you've got a person that donald trump told "the washington post" was one of his top foreign policy people, that's already pled guilty. who else am i missing? is there a fourth? so it's just starting -- this momentum is just starting. how many days ago was donald trump's national security adviser arrested and pled and is now cooperating with the fbi? >> two weeks. >> two weeks. jim jordan thinks the american people are stupid enough -- maybe because he's not wearing a jacket and he's one of us. his tie is untied. why doesn't he just roll up his sleeves and put on a hard hat. jim jordan is saying that now that they're actually getting close to figuring out what went on and people have already admitted to wrong doing and may serve time. his national security adviser may serve time. they're now saying why aren't you disbanding this investigation? how stupid do they think we are? how stupid are they and how stupid, willie, do they think we are? >> it's probably because they know what's coming, so they have the to undermine the source of the information. it's what president trump has done for the last 11 month. consider the source, he says. don't believe them. don't believe the press. don't believe the women. now don't believe the fbi. don't believe bob mueller. peter strzok was removed from the investigation last summer -- >> hold on, willie. are you telling me that the inspector general conducted an investigation, found these texts -- by the way, i'd love to see these guys' text messages during their hearings. you guys want to play that game, show your text messages during benghazi. why don't you reveal your text messages and what you were texting each other while you were conducting an i'm parable investigati imperil /* /- impartial investigation of benghazi. >> so the process works. >> he found the texts and they're bad. they go after donald trump. they say f trump. they call him an idiot, this and that. when those were revealed and discovered, they were removed. >> andrew mccarthy of the national review said, hey, fbi agents -- a conservative who has been very skeptical on the whole russia probe said these people are professionals. they're allowed to have their own professional opinion. the texts look like a big nothing. lots of people, me included, speak crudely privately about politics. if you're okay with trump's out bursts, i don't see you getting worked up over this bs. andrew mccarthy said he worked as a prosecutor in manhattan. he was a conservative constantly trashing the liberals in private. but when it came to being fair, you put that aside. everybody has opinions. >> everyone does have opinions. this guy was removed from the investigation. bob mueller is a republican. let's not forget that. if they're so worried about party politics. there's a republican in charge of this investigation. what's even more disturbing about the testimony -- i'm not sure if they were auditioning for a potential cabinet post, but it was just about making grand statements that were meaningless. they had enough to go with. this investigation, there have been hiccups along the way. that's enough, you want to call it into question, but do it with some moderation because then at least you look like you can set up the table. what's worse is how they did it and took wind out of the president's sail. >> talking about taxes. >> exactly. they stepped on the president. >> the white house operation, as much as they want to feed the congress of what they want to say to undermine the mueller investigation, they should really focus on their own agenda. >> mika, if they want to focus on a hearing and they really want to get to the bottom of something, then focus on jim comey's investigation of hillary clinton. ask why all the questions we asked. >> in realtime. >> why every time did you interview her on holiday weekends, why did you not press her? why did you let cheryl mills in there who was a participant in all this, why did you let her sit there as an attorney? there are a lot of questions to ask. bill clinton meeting with the attorney general on the plane. >> we were there. we talked about it. >> the president of the united states, barack obama, twice saying there's nothing to see here. there's been nothing to do with national security and all of this. the president basically putting his hands on the scale twice. those are legitimate questions about the hillary clinton investigation. go for it. but when you're trying to disrupt bob mueller's investigation that has already brought down three or four people extraordinarily close to the president of the united states, you're making a fool of yourself. and you're trying to undermine the rule of law, and i've said it before and i'm say it again, and you jackasses don't have to listen to me. i'm a broken record here. but you're only leading to your own demise. you're going to get crush ed net year in the elections. we've been warning you about this 33% thing. listen, if you're auditioning for the number one kiss-up, to be the number one kiss-up to donald trump? too late. lipid see graham won that award last weekend, he's on the tourist advisory board now for trump enterprises. all you're doing is hurting republicans in swing districts and making nancy pelosi move one step closer to being the next speaker of the house. don't undermine the rule of law. this will stay with you the rest of your life. >> democrats, thank you. coming up on "morning joe," "washington post's" philip rucker has new reporting on the republican efforts. nbc's kristen welker will help us get to the bottom of omerosa's dismissal from the white house. dramatic. >> very dramatic. >> dragged out? >> tried to run into his personal quarters there? >> that's what they're saying. >> tripped off an alarm allegedly. >> that's like familiar. we'll talk about that. >> i wonder what mike huck key is going to stay about that. 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[ applause ] the typical family of four earning $75,000 will see an income tax cut of more than $2,000, slashing their tax bill in half. it's going to be a lot of money. you're going to have an extra $2,000, but there are many more things than that. >> it would be wrong for senate republicans to jam through this tax bill without giving the newly elected senator from alabama the opportunity to cast his vote. our hope is that mitch mcconnell will do the right thing. our hope is that mitch mcconnell will hear what the voters in the suburbs of alabama said, help us. it's our hope that mitch mcconnell will realize proceeding with this tax bill will be a dramatic, dramatic death nail for the republican party in 2018. >> welcome back to "morning joe," joining us now, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, the white house says republicans in the house and senate have reached an agreement on their tax package. what can you tell us? >> we've spoken to multiple republican sources, mika. here is what we know so far under the bill, the individual tax rate will drop from more than 39% to 37. the corporate tax rate -- this is a big one for the president -- will will be slashed from 35 to 21%. that very thorny issue of deductions for property and state income taxes, the s.a.l.t. deduction bs will be capped at $10,000. perhaps the most controversial part of this bill, it repeals the obamacare individual mandate, ending the penalty for not having health insurance. according to projections, that's the move that can leave as many as 13 million people uninsured and alienates moderate republicans, meanwhile adding urgency to all of this is the stunning gop defeat in alabama as you heard chuck sheemer talking about. yesterday president trump was asked to respond to the election results and ask if it would hurt his agenda. >> a lot of republicans feel differently. they're happy with the way it turned out. as the leader of the party, i would like to have had the seat. >> how could that loss affect your agenda going forward? >> i don't think it's going to affect it. i think we're doing a lot -- >> reporter: democrats, as you just saw chuck schumer say, are pushing to have that tax vote delayed until doug jones, the democrat winner is seated. the reality is check it's unlikely republicans would agree to that. meanwhile, tracking another big story at the us whoment one of the most fap famous faces is now out. nbc news learned according to a source from the white house that omerosa newman, a former "apprenti "apprentice" star was escorted off the property after trying to re-enter to discuss her leaving. she says she insisted she was resigned and was not escorted off campus. we're digging into that throughout the day today. >> okay. look forward to hearing more. kristen welker, thank you very much. joining us now, "new york times" reporter and political analyst for msnbc and nbc, yamiche el sin door. you were one of the first to break the omerosa story. we want to play what she told abc news moments ago. >> i resigned, amend i did don't that in the residence as being reported. john kelly and i sat down in the situation room which is a very secure, very quiet room in the white house and we had a very candid conversation. i wanted to make the one-year mark. that is one of the goals that i set out to and then get back to my life. >> you resigned, you weren't fired as being reported? >> no. you know, i like to hear all of these interesting tales, but i have to tell you that they're 100% false. there were a lot of things that i observed during the last year that i was very unhappy with, that i was very uncomfortable with, things i observed, i heard -- >> such as? >> i can't expand upon it because i have to still go back and work with these people. as the only african-american woman in this white house, as a senior staff and assistant to the president, i have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people. when i can tell my story, it is a profound story that i know the world will want to hear. >> yamiche, what is she alluding to? >> there are two things. from the sources i've talked to, they said omerosa was uncomfortable with several things including president trump's response to charlottesville. your viewers remember it's when he said there was violence on both sides. she was pretty upset about that. all my sources tell me she was asked to leave, she was actually fired, that she was getting under john kelly's scene. john kelly was pretty mad at her because she was sending articles to president trump, back channelling to him around the chief of staff. as people know, john kelly has been trying to syphon off what information the president gets and try to keep him focused. omerosa is someone i was told was trying to take the focus away. as a result, she was asked to leave. my sourcing tells me she was asked to leave and escorted off the white house grounds. whether that was through secret service or security, my sources tell me she was -- i was not told that she was physically dragged, but i was told that she did not take it well, that she was very angry and as a result they had to get other people involved. >> yamiche, the secret service put out a tweet yesterday saying it was not involved in the removal of omerosa from white house grounds. part of the reporting we heard, also, is she tried to enter the residence to speak with president trump himself. >> my reporting tells me she did not try to enter the residence, but they have said she was very angry and also very angry she didn't have access to the president once john kelly got into that new role. >> so i would think we would be able to find out on some sort of document or the way they track actions inside the white house whether or not she's telling the truth or not. yamiche, do you know anything about that? >> i think at this point now there needs to be more digging into whether or not there's any public record into how this conversation went and whether or not -- i think what is interesting about the secret service tweet, while they say they weren't physically involved in taking her off the grounds. they made sure to say her pass has been terminated. that's an interesting point to make. she's saying she's going to be on until january 20th. my sources say she's getting paid until january 20th but actually isn't working anymore. she doesn't have the access she needs to do her job. i think it's interesting for her to try to save face and say this is what i'm doing still, still having to work with my colleagues when my sources tell me she's not working with the colleagues anymore. i should tell you at the end of the day, omerosa was not well liked by her colleagues, by other staff members. she was seen as someone who was a bomb thrower, someone who is aggressive. she has a lot of enemies in the white house who could be telling people stuff because they don't like her. that's something that's very clear when interviewing people at the us who. she could be saying, yes, i also didn't like this situation and then when i talked to john kelly and he brought to my attention the things he didn't like about my job, i also expressed what i didn't like. maybe they did come to ought mool understanding. my sourcetion tells me she was fired. >> all right. let's bring into the conversation white house bureau chief at t"the washington post" and political analyst for msnbc and nbc philip rucker. philip, what are you reporting this morning? >> good morning, mika. we documented the whole year, this first year of the trump presidency, and u.s.-russia policy and specifically what this government has done to respond to russian interference in the election in 2016 and help safeguard our systems ahead of next year's midterm elections and the presidential re-election. we found the government has done very little. that's in part because the president continues to be skeptical of the intelligence conclusi conclusion. we document a number of scenes where he's fought with his advisers who have been urging him to publicly acknowledge this intelligence. he will occasionally only begrudgingly do so and regret it later. he believes this intelligence acknowledging that it's true upped cuts his legitimacy as president. undercuts his victory, electoral victory that we know he's so proud of. i think importantly he thinks it impairs his ability to forge a friendship, a bond with vladimir putin that can help the united states in areas like north korea, iran, syria, some of the intractable problems in the world. it has left the government paralyzed with how to respond to this electoral threat. >> this piece comes at a fascinating time given that president putin had the press conference where he listed some of the accomplishments, propping up president trump. the president signing add deshl sanctions passed by congress. the piece details the president's private reaction at the time. philip and his colleagues write, trump saw the bill as validation of the case that russia had interfered as an encroachment on his executive authority and a fatal blow to his aspirations for friend ship with putin. in the final days before passage, trump watched msnbc's "morning joe" program and sued as joe and mika declared the bill would be a slap in the face to the president. he was raging, one adviser said, he was raging mad. after final passage he was apoplectic and the adviser recalled it took four days for aides to persuade him to sign the bill, arguing if he vetoed it and congress overturned the veto his standing would be permanently weakened. this is another case, philip, where the president of the united states is watching cable news and reacting in realtime with implications for american policy. >> that's right. the president did ultimately seen that sanctions bill, but he had a signing statement that was extraordinary. he took greati issue with the bill. he felt it encroached on his authority as the executive, as the commander-in-chief. he thinks it has hurt the u.s. relationship with russia which he's been so committed to making warmer and friendlier. >> phil, we know the president has president done much to fortify our elections, but what about other states? are they looking for federal money? are they concerned about the task force that mike pence was supposed to oversee and hope we would build some security within each state? where does that stand right now? we are looking with the election less than a year away. are our systems safe? >> well, the actual election machinery -- the elections are run by the states. various states are taking different measures to secure their systems in sort of a physical sense. there's not been, based on our reporting, any presidential level national security council meeting or cabinet level meeting to address russian interference and what to do about it. there continues to be work at a lower level with the staff and the white house at the national security council to develop some options, to think about ways to retaliate against russia, to think about ways to respond in a cyber area, but it has not been elevated to tpt's attention. >> yamiche, you've been covering all the events on the hill, the republicans pushing back against the mueller investigation. i come obviously with my own point of view on this. but can they do this with a straight face? >> they can do it with a straight face and have been doing it with a straight face. essentially they're doing that because they want to seem as though they're loyal to president trump. one of the things this president reguards more than anything else is people who are loyal to him, who will do his bidding, make the same arguments he wants to make. a lot of lawmakers are feeling the pressure after the schisms in the republican party to paint mueller as this partisan person. they're also very aware if the president fired robert mueller there would be a backlash to that. they're being very careful in how they're wording it. >> yamiche and philip, thank you for your reporting this morning. >> thank you. >> an enormous shift in the entertainment industry. the fed gives the economy a vote of confidence. 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my father actually was an avid fan and had our family play soccer. because he finds it to be the ultimate in strategy and quick thinking. >> far too quick for me but poland, world superpower. >> there you go. >> thanks to your father. want to talk about the premier league, joe scarborough. >> it's so good, this project. >> the midweek games in the premier league, manchester city powerhouse runaway. >> unbelievable. >> go to wales to play the welch cleveland browns. and this one, brace yourself america, was a bare-bottom spanking. >> um -- >> city, up early, brace yourself, here's a little character. david silver with an origami flick of the goal. then running through the trees of the enchanted forest. there's the wonder beloved, with the strike technically called a wolf blitzer. as you play sweet georgia brown for this one, it's david sylva again. he's newborn this season. he's twice the hair and twice the man. this guy is like vince laombard. here's manchester city, 15 wins on the road, a british record. 129 years of the league, longer than south dakota. here's wayne rooney who's a little bit like kenny powers meets lebron james. a hometown hero. back to his boy town club with a dodgy hairline, still scoring goals. everon everton, america's team. nine goals in just 12 shots. proof of what don king used to say, you don't get the results you deserve, you get the results you negotiate. everton, america's team. >> i think i could have knocked that one in. >> depressing. well done, wayne rooney. we got some news to report here. >> this is exciting. >> this joe, joe scarborough, is hosting a new show titled "this is football" which takes you inside the tradition and rivalries behind the english premier league. take a look. >> passion, strength, finesse. an 11-man band fighting to find their perfect harmony. we call it soccer but the rest of the world calls it something else. football is not just a sport. it's a way of life. that transcends geography, culture and class. football has always been stirred up in the stew of politics and history. so i head to manchester england. a working class city. to find football and an age-old rivalry between city and united. with one foot in the future and one in the past. it was time to come face-to-face with the storied theater of dreams and walk the streets of the old. a city that survived on football and music for more than a century. and a city divided to its core. >> what happens if a guy walks in with a blue shirt tomorrow? >> won't get in. >> won't get past the door. >> no. >> you don't let city fans in? >> no, don't like 'em. >> hate is a strong word. i don't hate united. >> goal! >> so the show's a little soccer but mostly slow motion shots of joe's head shots. this is football hosted by joe. debuts on tuesday december 26th at 4 p.m. eastern on nbc sports network. looks really cool. >> roger what we tried to do is show americans just how intense the rivalries with. it's hard for them to understand how tribal it is, how primal it is. >> i'm amazed you came back without a beer belly and a neck tattoo. that in its own is worth working. first america gives us megan merkel, now we're giving you joe scarborough. >> you can speak to this, hard core football fan. he wakes up early on saturdays. he watches the games. >> those computer soccer games. >> mika, in the equsequel to th when he goes over, that's the show. >> i've tried. we're going to get her over for the third. so final thoughts, mike? >> well, final thoughts about soccer or football, but all of this omarosa talk, as we've been talking about it, i just keep in the back tof my mind think they can't pass children's health insurance. >> something he talked about in the press conference. >> my final thought is i hope the people who are seeking publicly open hearings to undermine the fbi. some people saying we have to look at the fib, it's corrupted. i hope they rethink that. >> mika. >> well, i'm still waiting for the president to take down that tweet. honestly. i'm kind of stuck on that this week. >> how about you? >> judge not that you be judged. judge not that you be not judged. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> joe, thanks, mika. we begin this morning with one thing. tax reform. this one is big, kids. republicans have merged their two bills to come up with the most sweeping tax reform legislation in 30 years. that's a win maybe. it is actually a holiday gift or is it a lump of christmas coal? one thing is for sure, it is going to impact every single one of us and we're going to need to talk about it. starting with democrats. they're doing their best to hit the brakes on this

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